(01-22-2019 08:31 PM)crentist Wrote:  New here. I've gotten so much from reading this thread. Reading from the beginning but only on like page 25. I got a girls number day gaming this morning, it was a pretty quick interaction, not really clear that I had solid attraction but whatever, I'm trying to schedule the date.

Me: Hey it's x
Her: Hey its x
Me: How are you
Her: Good. Tell me about you, what do you do?
Me: I'm a web developer, you? (I know, I should have replied with a joke answer here)
Her: I'm studying
Her: Are you here with family?
Her: Or, how long have you been in Colombia?
Me: I arrived in October. No, I live with friends (again I shouldn't have fallen to her frame)
Me: What are you studying?
Her: Accounting
Her: How long are you staying?
Me: Cool
Me: I'm here until July
Me: What's your availability this week. We should get a coffee one day
Her: The weather is always great here
Her: What motivates you about me. Why do you want that we see each other (translated)

I know I fell to her frame already but this last one is a massive test. I clearly didn't know enough intent ("hey I think you're hot") when we met during the day.

I'm thinking about saying something like, "You seemed interesting and I'm spontaneous, so I figured I'd say hello and see if you'd be up for a coffee. It could be fun."

Maybe that's weak though, will take any advice

There is a significant space for improvement and I won't elaborate about all that could have been done. You didn't provide much about the interaction, though that is not that important - there are some basics you should've covered.

First and foremost, daygaming is a daring act. You've separated yourself from the chaff. You began to sing a different tune from most men. You've opened a bottle with a magic potion but might have spilled it on her shoes, instead of giving her to smell its seductive fragrance. Women dream of being swept off their feet. They love romance (whatever that means), hence that's why that's the most widely read literature the world over. Try to think like a woman. A boring, matter-of-factly conversation, such as yours, is no romance. I did it too, in the past, and it deflates the romance like a fat kid bursting a ballon with a dirty needle. Big it up, paint a dreamy picture, mythologise yourself and her. Make up new universes and make her forget the drudgery of hum-drum, every day life. Be creative (female mind digs it more than you think), daring and with a dash of fun.

I don't recommend your last proposition. Too convoluted and boring. Amateurish. The "We should get a coffee one day" is the way girls speak. It's a passive voice, you approached her, you drive to the date city. YOU arrange things, not put the responsibility on a poor girl. Bad game. And the last part, "It could be fun", sounds like a salesman of used cars, wearing ill-fitted suit with a polyester and stained cravat unsuccessfully persuading a customer to buy a mildly rusty Honda whilst combing with his left through his greasy hair fully knowing that the potential buyer has already set his eyes on another, fancier car... Or, in another words, if you need to tell someone you're a president of a country, you ain't one.

Anyway, let's revisit her penultimate and the last replies. She ignored your date request, then wants to know about your motivation to talk to her. Possibly, low self-esteem - act with caution. In any case, this is not usual type of exchange after getting a number. I wouldn't hold my breath you'll get her out but maybe good for experience. Loosen up, don't expect anything, this may show outcome independence, and increase your odds (mildly). The first order of business is to re-assert your frame (this salvageable only if your face to face one was correct). No more sissy talk. Also, I don't recommend to use Spanish unless you're really fluent and can get all nuances just right. Even then, I still don't recommend it - it sends an implicit signal of your qualifying to her whereas when she speaks your language (I assume it's English), she's qualifying to you. It's subtle, but shouldn't be underestimated. Why to get rid of a key tool from your toolbox?

Me: What's your availability this week. We should get a coffee one day
Her: The weather is always great here
Her: What motivates you about me. Why do you want that we see each other
CowboyExtraBigBalls: not so fast. first, when you're free

It's not about setting up the date now. Slow down, don't be too eager. Re-establish a frame. Maybe a few days, maybe couple weeks. Don't, again, strike out until you'll be sure there's high chance she'll accept. It's about you leading the conversation and her complying. Until she complies, you'll get nothing. As long as she replies you've something to work with. Begin to steer the conversation in the right direction. Hope that helps.

I'll preface by saying I don't care that much about losing this bang. She's quite older, lives a bit far and has a daughter therefore limited time, bad logistics. But I feel it would be good sex.

That said, how would you guys respond to the "Unfortunately I don't feel interested" text?

Background:

Woman in her early 40s, great shape, met online. Came to my place after about a month since the first contact (holidays and other stuff were between and we didn't maintain contact the whole time). We drank wine, listened to George Michael whom she adores, talked, made out and she gave me an unfinished handjob. Could tell she was horny. She was on her period and told me she wouldn't have sex because of that. She messaged me the day after the date to tell me she made it home ok, I replied and all was good.

Long story short, the woman showed signs of interest in meeting again after that but seemed a bit hesitant to do it at my place with pretty much knowing what would go down. So on my last text, I ask her if she wants to meet this coming weekend. Today, 3 days later, she sends me the text I posted at the top.

I'd guess that she wants some sort of dating relationship and probably realized that our age difference, life situation and what I want from her doesn't align with that.

The reason I'm asking is simply to see if anybody has turned something like that around.

My thoughts:
- "It's ok. If you change your mind you know where to find me." Non reactive, short, implicit but still to the point.
- "Alright. Got a new TV with better sound, if you want to listen to George Michael again hit me up." Same as above, a bit more playful and referring to our fist meet.
- "Not interested in George Michael again? Alright, can put on Phil Collins this time." Trolling, light hearted and funny, referring to the first meet.

Like I said, I'm not sweating this one. But since she didn't ghost me, it may mean she was thinking about what to do. So if I can keep the door open, I wonder what the best way to do it in is.

^ "Can I get your daughter's number then ?"

(01-23-2019 04:47 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 08:31 PM)crentist Wrote:  New here. I've gotten so much from reading this thread. Reading from the beginning but only on like page 25. I got a girls number day gaming this morning, it was a pretty quick interaction, not really clear that I had solid attraction but whatever, I'm trying to schedule the date.

Me: Hey it's x
Her: Hey its x
Me: How are you
Her: Good. Tell me about you, what do you do?
Me: I'm a web developer, you? (I know, I should have replied with a joke answer here)
Her: I'm studying
Her: Are you here with family?
Her: Or, how long have you been in Colombia?
Me: I arrived in October. No, I live with friends (again I shouldn't have fallen to her frame)
Me: What are you studying?
Her: Accounting
Her: How long are you staying?
Me: Cool
Me: I'm here until July
Me: What's your availability this week. We should get a coffee one day
Her: The weather is always great here
Her: What motivates you about me. Why do you want that we see each other (translated)

I know I fell to her frame already but this last one is a massive test. I clearly didn't know enough intent ("hey I think you're hot") when we met during the day.

I'm thinking about saying something like, "You seemed interesting and I'm spontaneous, so I figured I'd say hello and see if you'd be up for a coffee. It could be fun."

Maybe that's weak though, will take any advice

There is a significant space for improvement and I won't elaborate about all that could have been done. You didn't provide much about the interaction, though that is not that important - there are some basics you should've covered.

First and foremost, daygaming is a daring act. You've separated yourself from the chaff. You began to sing a different tune from most men. You've opened a bottle with a magic potion but might have spilled it on her shoes, instead of giving her to smell its seductive fragrance. Women dream of being swept off their feet. They love romance (whatever that means), hence that's why that's the most widely read literature the world over. Try to think like a woman. A boring, matter-of-factly conversation, such as yours, is no romance. I did it too, in the past, and it deflates the romance like a fat kid bursting a ballon with a dirty needle. Big it up, paint a dreamy picture, mythologise yourself and her. Make up new universes and make her forget the drudgery of hum-drum, every day life. Be creative (female mind digs it more than you think), daring and with a dash of fun.

I don't recommend your last proposition. Too convoluted and boring. Amateurish. The "We should get a coffee one day" is the way girls speak. It's a passive voice, you approached her, you drive to the date city. YOU arrange things, not put the responsibility on a poor girl. Bad game. And the last part, "It could be fun", sounds like a salesman of used cars, wearing ill-fitted suit with a polyester and stained cravat unsuccessfully persuading a customer to buy a mildly rusty Honda whilst combing with his left through his greasy hair fully knowing that the potential buyer has already set his eyes on another, fancier car... Or, in another words, if you need to tell someone you're a president of a country, you ain't one.

Anyway, let's revisit her penultimate and the last replies. She ignored your date request, then wants to know about your motivation to talk to her. Possibly, low self-esteem - act with caution. In any case, this is not usual type of exchange after getting a number. I wouldn't hold my breath you'll get her out but maybe good for experience. Loosen up, don't expect anything, this may show outcome independence, and increase your odds (mildly). The first order of business is to re-assert your frame (this salvageable only if your face to face one was correct). No more sissy talk. Also, I don't recommend to use Spanish unless you're really fluent and can get all nuances just right. Even then, I still don't recommend it - it sends an implicit signal of your qualifying to her whereas when she speaks your language (I assume it's English), she's qualifying to you. It's subtle, but shouldn't be underestimated. Why to get rid of a key tool from your toolbox?

Me: What's your availability this week. We should get a coffee one day
Her: The weather is always great here
Her: What motivates you about me. Why do you want that we see each other
CowboyExtraBigBalls: not so fast. first, when you're free

It's not about setting up the date now. Slow down, don't be too eager. Re-establish a frame. Maybe a few days, maybe couple weeks. Don't, again, strike out until you'll be sure there's high chance she'll accept. It's about you leading the conversation and her complying. Until she complies, you'll get nothing. As long as she replies you've something to work with. Begin to steer the conversation in the right direction. Hope that helps.

Great stuff, great advice. Regarding speaking Spanish - most of the girls here legitimately speak no English, so that might be impossible. However, I do know what you mean about it being a signal of qualifying to her. My game is definitely not as strong in Spanish.

However, a lot of this is just expanding my comfort zone and approaching in Spanish does that for me.

(01-23-2019 06:08 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  ^ "Can I get your daughter's number then ?"

Ok, frikkin Instagram messenger is cockblocking me!!

A chick from my HS days (we are early 20s now) posts an insta story, I respond "Hey is this LA? Im gonna be there next week!" [we havent spoken for years, but I did know she went to college in LA]

She: "No its Bangkok hehe" (we are from bangkok)
She: I wish it was LA tho! Have fun


Me: "Ah, the rain makes more sense now. u visiting or u live there now?"
Me: Dont be too jealous, Im going there for work lol

She: Ah I see
She: Yea I moved back after graduation

This is where Instagram screws up

Me: oh thats cool [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: Ever miss the states?? [SENT]

then after 12 hours of that message it sends

Me: oh thats cool
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work

Feel like this just made me sound douchy and needy. Firstly asking "Ever miss the states??" and then sending the other 2 messages with a 12 hr gap and no response from her.

What is the best play now? Havent heard from her but shes seen them all.

(01-26-2019 01:22 PM)federernadal Wrote:  Ok, frikkin Instagram messenger is cockblocking me!!

A chick from my HS days (we are early 20s now) posts an insta story, I respond "Hey is this LA? Im gonna be there next week!" [we havent spoken for years, but I did know she went to college in LA]

She: "No its Bangkok hehe" (we are from bangkok)
She: I wish it was LA tho! Have fun


Me: "Ah, the rain makes more sense now. u visiting or u live there now?"
Me: Dont be too jealous, Im going there for work lol

She: Ah I see
She: Yea I moved back after graduation

This is where Instagram screws up

Me: oh thats cool [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: Ever miss the states?? [SENT]

then after 12 hours of that message it sends

Me: oh thats cool
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work

Feel like this just made me sound douchy and needy. Firstly asking "Ever miss the states??" and then sending the other 2 messages with a 12 hr gap and no response from her.

What is the best play now? Havent heard from her but shes seen them all.

BUMP....what do you guys think is the best play now?

(01-26-2019 01:22 PM)federernadal Wrote:  Ok, frikkin Instagram messenger is cockblocking me!!

A chick from my HS days (we are early 20s now) posts an insta story [...]

What is the best play now? Havent heard from her but shes seen them all.

Lazy answer to a lazy question - the best play NOW is to read the whole thread from top to bottom. With your 'text game' as you posted, real Federer or Nadal wouldn't let you take care of his towel.

(01-26-2019 01:22 PM)federernadal Wrote:  Ok, frikkin Instagram messenger is cockblocking me!!

A chick from my HS days (we are early 20s now) posts an insta story, I respond "Hey is this LA? Im gonna be there next week!" [we havent spoken for years, but I did know she went to college in LA]

She: "No its Bangkok hehe" (we are from bangkok)
She: I wish it was LA tho! Have fun


Me: "Ah, the rain makes more sense now. u visiting or u live there now?"
Me: Dont be too jealous, Im going there for work lol

She: Ah I see
She: Yea I moved back after graduation

This is where Instagram screws up

Me: oh thats cool [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: Ever miss the states?? [SENT]

then after 12 hours of that message it sends

Me: oh thats cool
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work

Feel like this just made me sound douchy and needy. Firstly asking "Ever miss the states??" and then sending the other 2 messages with a 12 hr gap and no response from her.

What is the best play now? Havent heard from her but shes seen them all.

Ok, so I thought it was over so just ghosted, then after 12 hrs she responded on her own:

She: Woah, never been to [your city]!
She: Yes of course I miss US!
She: I think I will always miss it!
She: Wish you all the best!

Here is what I am planning:

Me: Yea [my city] is sweet. Way better weather here than my college city
Me: It kinda sucks ure not in La anymore, I was totally gonna ask u out lol
Me: [X airline] even has cheap [my airport]-LAX directs, we could have totally made it work haha

My goal here is to ensure I dont get in the friendzone and possibly get close when I visit back. We kinda do have a weak social link (like we may all hang out once when Im back if there is a meetup with like dozens), but it has been years since HS and I live so far away, I couldnt care less if she does get creeped out and tells everyone Im a creep. Usually being bold has worked for me in the past tho!

(01-23-2019 06:08 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  ^ "Can I get your daughter's number then ?"

Brilliant, but she's too young. Ended up going with a variation of the first one, she responded with an ok and a smiley face. Moving on.

(01-27-2019 02:07 AM)federernadal Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 01:22 PM)federernadal Wrote:  Ok, frikkin Instagram messenger is cockblocking me!!

A chick from my HS days (we are early 20s now) posts an insta story, I respond "Hey is this LA? Im gonna be there next week!" [we havent spoken for years, but I did know she went to college in LA]

She: "No its Bangkok hehe" (we are from bangkok)
She: I wish it was LA tho! Have fun


Me: "Ah, the rain makes more sense now. u visiting or u live there now?"
Me: Dont be too jealous, Im going there for work lol

She: Ah I see
She: Yea I moved back after graduation

This is where Instagram screws up

Me: oh thats cool [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: Ever miss the states?? [SENT]

then after 12 hours of that message it sends

Me: oh thats cool
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work

Feel like this just made me sound douchy and needy. Firstly asking "Ever miss the states??" and then sending the other 2 messages with a 12 hr gap and no response from her.

What is the best play now? Havent heard from her but shes seen them all.

Ok, so I thought it was over so just ghosted, then after 12 hrs she responded on her own:

She: Woah, never been to [your city]!
She: Yes of course I miss US!
She: I think I will always miss it!
She: Wish you all the best!

Here is what I am planning:

Me: Yea [my city] is sweet. Way better weather here than my college city
Me: It kinda sucks ure not in La anymore, I was totally gonna ask u out lol
Me: [X airline] even has cheap [my airport]-LAX directs, we could have totally made it work haha

My goal here is to ensure I dont get in the friendzone and possibly get close when I visit back. We kinda do have a weak social link (like we may all hang out once when Im back if there is a meetup with like dozens), but it has been years since HS and I live so far away, I couldnt care less if she does get creeped out and tells everyone Im a creep. Usually being bold has worked for me in the past tho!

I don't like your plan. She doesn't show any interest in keeping the convo going and you start talking about meeting.

I would not even respond to her last message. If I wanted to keep in touch, I'd let some time go by, maybe a few weeks and then send some provocative message. That could be a) a cool/interesting pic with an one liner of an event, place or something similar, b) funny meme/gif which ideally can lead to a discussion about you two or c) a simple text message about something that would raise her curiosity e.g. "I met your doppelganger/evil twin".

If you're planning to go to Bangkok you can start laying the foundation for a meet with something like that.

A little backstory: I've been seeing this girl since early December - fucked on first date and have hung out 5-6 times since then. The last text she sent here a week ago on Sunday the 20th. Our last couple interactions seemed off and she seems to be trying to establish some frame control.

I'm planning to continue to stay silent to gauge her interest level. It can go two ways a) she never responds, which means probably lost interest/found other dudes to fuck a while ago b) she reconnects with me again and now I'm not the one chasing her

But if someone has a better solution, I'm all ears.

It's getting confusing for me to figure out which apps and method to message broads.

I'm trying to keep it going with with a nice latina who I didn't get to bang since she was on her rag. Ingot her on IG and we text and there is WhatsApp. I get more replies from her from IG messages but I don't like using that. I order WhatsApp but she didn't reply well there. Normal text just isn't as good as I can't use emjois.

I have no idea what method is best. I'd prefer to pick one and stick to it.

What do you Gents find works best ?

(01-27-2019 10:33 AM)Trent W. Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:08 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  ^ "Can I get your daughter's number then ?"

Brilliant, but she's too young. Ended up going with a variation of the first one, she responded with an ok and a smiley face. Moving on.

(01-27-2019 02:07 AM)federernadal Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 01:22 PM)federernadal Wrote:  Ok, frikkin Instagram messenger is cockblocking me!!

A chick from my HS days (we are early 20s now) posts an insta story, I respond "Hey is this LA? Im gonna be there next week!" [we havent spoken for years, but I did know she went to college in LA]

She: "No its Bangkok hehe" (we are from bangkok)
She: I wish it was LA tho! Have fun


Me: "Ah, the rain makes more sense now. u visiting or u live there now?"
Me: Dont be too jealous, Im going there for work lol

She: Ah I see
She: Yea I moved back after graduation

This is where Instagram screws up

Me: oh thats cool [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work [FAILED TO SEND]
Me: Ever miss the states?? [SENT]

then after 12 hours of that message it sends

Me: oh thats cool
Me: yea I moved to [city] after graduation to work

Feel like this just made me sound douchy and needy. Firstly asking "Ever miss the states??" and then sending the other 2 messages with a 12 hr gap and no response from her.

What is the best play now? Havent heard from her but shes seen them all.

Ok, so I thought it was over so just ghosted, then after 12 hrs she responded on her own:

She: Woah, never been to [your city]!
She: Yes of course I miss US!
She: I think I will always miss it!
She: Wish you all the best!

Here is what I am planning:

Me: Yea [my city] is sweet. Way better weather here than my college city
Me: It kinda sucks ure not in La anymore, I was totally gonna ask u out lol
Me: [X airline] even has cheap [my airport]-LAX directs, we could have totally made it work haha

My goal here is to ensure I dont get in the friendzone and possibly get close when I visit back. We kinda do have a weak social link (like we may all hang out once when Im back if there is a meetup with like dozens), but it has been years since HS and I live so far away, I couldnt care less if she does get creeped out and tells everyone Im a creep. Usually being bold has worked for me in the past tho!

I don't like your plan. She doesn't show any interest in keeping the convo going and you start talking about meeting.

I would not even respond to her last message. If I wanted to keep in touch, I'd let some time go by, maybe a few weeks and then send some provocative message. That could be a) a cool/interesting pic with an one liner of an event, place or something similar, b) funny meme/gif which ideally can lead to a discussion about you two or c) a simple text message about something that would raise her curiosity e.g. "I met your doppelganger/evil twin".

If you're planning to go to Bangkok you can start laying the foundation for a meet with something like that.

Shoulda listened to you. Went my way now she has ghosted me lol...oh well.

(01-27-2019 01:00 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  A little backstory: I've been seeing this girl since early December - fucked on first date and have hung out 5-6 times since then. The last text she sent here a week ago on Sunday the 20th. Our last couple interactions seemed off and she seems to be trying to establish some frame control.

I'm planning to continue to stay silent to gauge her interest level. It can go two ways a) she never responds, which means probably lost interest/found other dudes to fuck a while ago b) she reconnects with me again and now I'm not the one chasing her

But if someone has a better solution, I'm all ears.

First, I'm glad this thread is still going!

Moving on, just as you're testing her, she's testing you. She's seeing if this is serious or if you're just trying to be fuck buddies (common for a first night lay). As you eluded to, she's figuring out boundaries.

If you have other girls on the menu and really don't care, then let it ride. If you don't, I'd reach out before too much time passes. Then work on getting other options soon, unless for some reason you're looking to settle down with this one for awhile.

As for her losing interest/having other guys to fuck, don't ever think that way. You should be more interesting and a better lay than them. If you're not, work on improving!

(01-28-2019 05:15 PM)CJ Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 01:00 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  A little backstory: I've been seeing this girl since early December - fucked on first date and have hung out 5-6 times since then. The last text she sent here a week ago on Sunday the 20th. Our last couple interactions seemed off and she seems to be trying to establish some frame control.

I'm planning to continue to stay silent to gauge her interest level. It can go two ways a) she never responds, which means probably lost interest/found other dudes to fuck a while ago b) she reconnects with me again and now I'm not the one chasing her

But if someone has a better solution, I'm all ears.

First, I'm glad this thread is still going!

Moving on, just as you're testing her, she's testing you. She's seeing if this is serious or if you're just trying to be fuck buddies (common for a first night lay). As you eluded to, she's figuring out boundaries.

If you have other girls on the menu and really don't care, then let it ride. If you don't, I'd reach out before too much time passes. Then work on getting other options soon, unless for some reason you're looking to settle down with this one for awhile.

As for her losing interest/having other guys to fuck, don't ever think that way. You should be more interesting and a better lay than them. If you're not, work on improving!

Thanks for the reply. Normally I'd be perfectly willing to let it go with indifference. But we get along pretty well and I actually enjoy spending time with her. She's also one of the best looking girls I've been with and is great in bed. I don't want to "settle down" with her, though unfortunately I don't have other options right now despite my efforts. I'll wait a few more days and reinitiate.

I met this girl during a party friday and she asked for my snapchat. The past days she's been showing strong interest and always engaging conversations, and curious and asking about me and my life etc. She is trying her best not to come off strong and act easy but it's funny she failing at it.

"So you've been thinking about us 2 since friday huh?"
"So you want to see me naked huh?" and she's been bringing up sex randomly in conversations lol.

"So you like me?" fishing for validation and i keep gaming her well and not giving any. I said "why do you keep putting words in my mouth" she said "you're making it hard for me, i can't read you".

"oh you're such a perv, you're probably thinking about my breasts now"

I told her "well you're the one bringing sex up, so you're the one thinking about it not me"

last one she wrote was she asked what im doing this weekend and i said im celebrating my birthday, she sent 2 texts

"we need to celebrate"
"so you want to hang out with me this weekend or what?"

literally playing around with this girl because this is funny, but i dont know man... she's not fat, just chubby but a decent face. Would you guys bang if it was the easiest bang of your life? She is literally putting herself in my bed. I have a 1 year long dry spell boys, maybe this quick one will make the startup smoother again. I've only tried petite girls so this will be weird. Give me advice

Yes, bang her ASAP

@Philosopher this sounds super newbie and strange, but im scared to hell i can't get it up for her once she's naked lol or that i will regret it later. im just used to one specific skinny type of body, it's gonna be a first time lowering my standards this much, hence the damn 1 year dry spell, i have too high standard. or maybe im just overanalyzing

You will regret missing this opportunity to break your dry spell. If something goes wrong-it will be a learning experience.

Just bang her already

(01-29-2019 01:24 PM)chvrches Wrote:  @Philosopher this sounds super newbie and strange, but im scared to hell i can't get it up for her once she's naked lol or that i will regret it later. im just used to one specific skinny type of body, it's gonna be a first time lowering my standards this much, hence the damn 1 year dry spell, i have too high standard. or maybe im just overanalyzing

You have zero pressure. She will be very eager to please. Worst case you have her give you a BJ. If you can't get it up for her then send her on her way. If it were a hot girl then maybe there'd be some pressure, but sounds ideal, just have her deliver herself like she wants to.

Philosopher that's a great comment, spot on.

AneroidOcean excellent, worst case scenario it's a blowjob, you convinced me man.

So after yesterday date - she messaged me -
Thank you for a lovely visit. You were a perfect gentleman..
followed by
Not sure if either of us are feeling sparks flying.
followed
Aren't you sweet. I think I'm to much of personality for you no? Very honest and don't care what people think. I don't think that sits well with you.

Not sure but I think that I messed up the date - should bang but could not get over in my head that small kid was noisy in room next door.
There was kino, chat was strange - she was really in to me touching but then she started to talk about her exes and that after divorce she had a lot of ONS just for sex plus that she's got The Contraceptive Coil.
any idea if this is friendzone or just shit test

and yes I am a total beginner (learning via the forum)

It sounds like she's a mess. Run for the hills.

(02-05-2019 05:00 AM)Pytonga Wrote:  So after yesterday date - she messaged me -
Thank you for a lovely visit. You were a perfect gentleman..
followed by
Not sure if either of us are feeling sparks flying.
followed
Aren't you sweet. I think I'm to much of personality for you no? Very honest and don't care what people think. I don't think that sits well with you.

Not sure but I think that I messed up the date - should bang but could not get over in my head that small kid was noisy in room next door.
There was kino, chat was strange - she was really in to me touching but then she started to talk about her exes and that after divorce she had a lot of ONS just for sex plus that she's got The Contraceptive Coil.
any idea if this is friendzone or just shit test

and yes I am a total beginner (learning via the forum)

She thought you were being too nice and aren't attracted to you because of that. It's still a bit of shit test though so you're not completely fucked yet. Personally I wouldn't spend any more energy on her, but do send her an aloof text and see what happens.

Just say something like: "Yeah I agree, didn't really feel any "sparks" either. You're not really my type to be honest. Let me know if you wanna fuck sometime though, I might still be down for that. Otherwise, have a good one."