(12-15-2018 11:29 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

Yeah you don't have to word it like that. Just laying out the general idea. A better wording might be something like: "Of course we don't have to travel together. I am travelling regardless cause I need to get away for a bit and recharge. I don't wanna spend time finding and meeting up with local women so thought I'd invite one I know already to tag along. I enjoyed our last vacation together and you emailed me out of the blue, so thought "why not just invite 'her name"? No biggie if you don't want though, I'll invite someone else. Cheers"

(12-15-2018 01:31 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 11:29 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

Yeah you don't have to word it like that. Just laying out the general idea. A better wording might be something like: "Of course we don't have to travel together. I am travelling regardless cause I need to get away for a bit and recharge. I don't wanna spend time finding and meeting up with local women so thought I'd invite one I know already to tag along. I enjoyed our last vacation together and you emailed me out of the blue, so thought "why not just invite 'her name"? No biggie if you don't want though, I'll invite someone else. Cheers"

Alright, will give it a try. Regarding being called a "Womanizer)" I would reply with "What kind of trouble are you up to?" completely ignoring her frame and taking the conversation into logistics of getting a meetup.

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Besides texts, don't you think buying her flights is too corny?

I think she could react as girls react to expensive dates or that they could think you worship them too much.

I was having a similar issue. A girl I knew in Iquitos invited me to join her in her trip to Brazil. Too expensive for me and if I did it, it could seem I'm too submitted to her. This German girl is one of the most beautiful I've been able to meet, but I had to restrain myself

So I just received a random text from a girl I daygame number closed two months ago. This girl never replied to my first text, so I just forgot about her and moved on. Anyway she just messaged me and said:

"Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

(12-16-2018 05:55 AM)Bizet Wrote:  So I just received a random text from a girl I daygame number closed two months ago. This girl never replied to my first text, so I just forgot about her and moved on. Anyway she just messaged me and said:

"Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

"I'm more into Roosh nowadays"

(12-16-2018 05:55 AM)Bizet Wrote:  "Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

"What is RSD?"

(12-14-2018 01:53 PM)Yyy9898 Wrote:  Well hello this is my first post
I'll post the text as cut paste from messenger all advice is welcomed
I tried to make a move after I showed interest in her but she wasn't there when I went to meet her in person.
Later on I I got tried of playing around tried direct game which backfired tried to fix it with indirect game basically I ruined it all.
Any advice on whether I should talk with her again (that I have a chance to fix this) or just forget it since it's a lost cause?



Hello! I was dancing sorry...
Her About the math.. I'm really disappointed with myself
Dancing
I didn't know you dance
Well,That's new
Her Yes folklore dancing
For good luck?
Folklore dancing in Bulgarian is usually when they pick roses
But don't be disappointed or anything. I am sure u did alright
Yes but there's more than roses it's really interesting if you watch the figures which are made while dancers make the exact dance

I'm not sure about the math I didn't realize how much time I need for some of the examples

R u taking a dance class?

Yes
I dance for about 15 years
Do they have any Spanish dance lessons?
No but I know where you can go for Spanish dance
I just have to ask one friend
Is Bulgarian your favorite?
Yeees.
But
I also really like Georgian dances
They're reaaaaally beautiful

Tell me are there any dances for duos?
I never tried to improve my dancing.

There are number of places for Latino music dance in pairs round Sofia
Like "Latino force"

I will check it out.
But you seem to be more experienced

They're good
I haven't been to Latino dances
But my family is addicted to them
So I know a few steps
Girls who are dedicated are really rare
U r full of surprises
But you seemed kinda of timid at first
Really?? I think I'm really boring and stupid person to be honest
Yeah sometimes I can't talk In other time I can't stop talking

Yeah I know I always try to direct the conversation to find out more about you

But you always end up talking with me about Yana
I'm sure you just worry too much

Exactly
See ! you know a lot about me
I don't know why but I'm like bomb everything around me is moving
And I can't just sit in one place

That's not bad at all
But sometimes I'm like destroyed and just can't talk
You're like a midnight owl sometimes restless others too hyperactive.
I don't think you realize that this is a wonderful trait you've got
Sometimes you're chill
Everybody gets the urge to relax every now and then
And it's nice to share these moments
I criticise myself a lot and I can't even understand things that everyone have been always telling me
They just don't understand you well enough


Yes.. maybe you're right and I'm really happy that you're thinking that
I know how you feel sometimes my ego controls me too.

But we grow stronger
It reflects on everything from trying to dance for the first time to speaking with a native a couple of words

But it's the joy that comes out of sharing it with others that is not easily forgotten.

Beautiful words !
Like you're reading a part of my mind
Don't show that side of mine to anyone
Keep it a secret
I promise
It will be between you and me
tell me how's your schedule like on Sunday?

On Sunday hmm I will be working at the morning after that I will be at my last school cause there'll be a festival and the evening.. I'm working again unfortunately this Sunday my schedule is full

You look like you've got too much on your plate.
When's your festival?
Text me the details and I'll see when is a suitable time

It's from 12 pm to about 3 pm in the afternoon but I will be helping and I'm not sure if I will have the chance to walk around the festival with you but if you want I can offer you something different .. I have a concert on Wednesday (19.12) I will be dancing if you want to come I will send you the location

Ok we'll talk tomorrow.I gotta sleep.I slept late yesterday.
See you tomorrow!


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New day she flaked I panicked and shit spiralled out of control.

Hey,I'm gonna go ahead.I'm late.
I'll text you later
Okay
I missed call her. I worried I'm losing attraction.
What's up
I left too today without talking with you.
Don't worry we can chat now or we can talk on Monday
I hope I didn't give a bad first impression
Of course no
Don't worry



I'm too busy I had to leave my friends then say hello to others from the embassy. I meet them only on Friday.all of that had to be done before going to deliver some papers to a friend of my father.
Now I have to go half way across Sofia to meet a second friend.
But nevermind that We should make up some time to meet?
Okay but it have to be after these week cause I'm really busy
It's nice sharing your thoughts with someone without being stressed

I will be out of Sofia after some time.
Yeah
I'll go with a my friend to pleben next week to pickup his Turkish gf.
I still want to see you before that
But why you want to see me out I mean we can chat I just can't go out in the next two weeks cause I'm really busy and I can't find free time
Cause I'm happy to have found someonevwho is different than anybody else I meet in the last 2 months
And you're the first with an actually genuinely nice character.

I'm glad to hear that I just can't do it this week if you want after new year
Ok Best of luck in the festival
Thank you!! Have a great time in Pleben!


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This is where I regret every word I said and honestly if you're still reading by now. thanks.that girl was the first girl I feel in love with and if you know a way to salvage this situation then I am seriously all ears.

But you have to send me a picture of yourself
I want to see your dance in that festival.
I will post a picture on my Facebook account

It’d be cool to see something else
But I'm don't think you're the type for it.

What do you mean

I fall in love with beautiful photos and you seem to be an excellent photographer
I want you to show me how good you are.
I don't mind seeing your playful side?

I'm not that kind of person sorry

No I never meant that
I'm not talking about that
You actually think that I'm a dick

No I don't
I thought you were a friend
I'm just working at the moment
I can't pay attention to my phone
I'm looking for someone to have a serious connection with.
A deep conversation.Not a fuck and dump
I understand but why with me I think Martin is smarter than me and he's a boy.. I may not understand some things like if you're in love with a girl.. we can chat but unfortunately I can't chat 24/7
I have a lot of problems to deal with

Ok do you have a bf?
And wait.. what about your friends form today? Can you talk with them or they're not okay for talking this things
At the moment no I'm dealing with my ex

Seriously.So is my gf

Wait what?
I thought we're talking about stuff that doesn't matter
I just can't understand you
I just wanna start by being friends.do you still have feelings for your ex?
It's a secret
You never had feelings to another guy after him?
I don't care if you think Martin is smarter
Your a smart girl.I want you to tell me
What?
I wanna know are you open for a relationship?
And if you're gonna think about it then just forget it.

No
Ok
Then it's best that we stay friends.



Thanks for reading help get her back and not repeat this mistake again.
Thanks

I started reading your post but didn't finish. Don't take any offense in that, you have to keep your posts well formatted if you want people to read through them. I couldn't even be sure which part was you texting and which was you asking the forum. It also helps to keep your posts as short and concise as possible.

However I skimmed through it and I saw the same problem most guys have who are either new to this or are very much into a girl and forget some basics. You are over-invested and you chit chat without showing intent. Equals friend zone. Plus you ask about her ex?

Unless I've misunderstood, I'd say head for other waters. If she has any interest left in her about you, she will only show it after you neglect her.

(12-16-2018 06:19 AM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 05:55 AM)Bizet Wrote:  "Stop watching RSD."

Haha.

I'm probably just going to ignore this, unless somebody can think of a good response.

"What is RSD?"

A group of PUAs. Search it on Youtube, many videos there.

(12-16-2018 02:08 AM)Zoso Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Besides texts, don't you think buying her flights is too corny?

I think she could react as girls react to expensive dates or that they could think you worship them too much.

I was having a similar issue. A girl I knew in Iquitos invited me to join her in her trip to Brazil. Too expensive for me and if I did it, it could seem I'm too submitted to her. This German girl is one of the most beautiful I've been able to meet, but I had to restrain myself

Admit to being cheesy and thinking with my small head and making my wallet hate me. Letting that holiday free time and thirst get to me. Agree that it is probably for the best to restrain myself like you did.

(12-15-2018 01:31 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 11:29 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.

Yeah you don't have to word it like that. Just laying out the general idea. A better wording might be something like: "Of course we don't have to travel together. I am travelling regardless cause I need to get away for a bit and recharge. I don't wanna spend time finding and meeting up with local women so thought I'd invite one I know already to tag along. I enjoyed our last vacation together and you emailed me out of the blue, so thought "why not just invite 'her name"? No biggie if you don't want though, I'll invite someone else. Cheers"

Did what you suggested, she replied with. "Too much paperwork involved and I am afraid to travel alone for such a long distance." (last year's trip was closer to her and further for me as I had 2 weeks)
She finished with "We are not doing very well at developing a relationship, by communicating only long-distance."

My wallet is thanking her)))

(12-16-2018 11:11 AM)Zoso Wrote:  A group of PUAs. Search it on Youtube, many videos there.

Yes I know, I meant that's what he should text her back. Haha.

(12-16-2018 12:18 PM)Philosopher Wrote:  Did what you suggested, she replied with. "Too much paperwork involved and I am afraid to travel alone for such a long distance." (last year's trip was closer to her and further for me as I had 2 weeks)
She finished with "We are not doing very well at developing a relationship, by communicating only long-distance."

My wallet is thanking her)))

Alright. I think she would've responded something similar no matter what you would've said. Onto the next one!

Got a match on Happn with a 25 yr old 7.5 Asian mid of last month.

Didn't text her right away but waited couple of days and texted her the following Sunday, Nov 18th (knowing how girls are more free to read messages on Sundays):
Me: 'Hey, enjoying the rainy Sunday'

No response. I know, I know that was a lame text but it was raining and bitch hadn't put anything on her profile except Pics. Few of her pics were slutty ass pics. And I was busy doing Assignments so didn't have time to think of something creative to say.

Anyways, I chose to forget about this girl untill last week when Happn reminded me again that she crossed paths with me.

So I messaged her again 3 days ago:
Me: 'you keep crossing my path...howcome we haven't collided into each other yet lol'

One day later(Friday) her reply:
Her: 'Let’s do it'

After few hours I replied
Me: 'Cool. Lets bump at *cool bar*, *location* tomm around 4PM'

Tomm was yesterday (Saturday) but she never got back to me.

Her body is tight and she has a lovely ass from the pics. I have been only banging my main girl for a month and half now and main girl is away for a week long trip. So I would love to bang this chick and she seems nearby.

What do you guys think went wrong in my asking her to meet me?
Also, what should be a reignite text and when should I sent it?

(12-16-2018 02:46 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 11:11 AM)Zoso Wrote:  A group of PUAs. Search it on Youtube, many videos there.

Yes I know, I meant that's what he should text her back. Haha.

Oh haha i got it now. It seems it works so.

@Yyy9 Cut your losses and read the forum

(12-16-2018 05:09 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  So I messaged her again 3 days ago:
Me: 'you keep crossing my path...howcome we haven't collided into each other yet lol'

One day later(Friday) her reply:
Her: 'Let’s do it'

After few hours I replied
Me: 'Cool. Lets bump at *cool bar*, *location* tomm around 4PM'

Tomm was yesterday (Saturday) but she never got back to me.

Her body is tight and she has a lovely ass from the pics. I have been only banging my main girl for a month and half now and main girl is away for a week long trip. So I would love to bang this chick and she seems nearby.

What do you guys think went wrong in my asking her to meet me?
Also, what should be a reignite text and when should I sent it?

Why invite her to a bar and why the next day? After she said "Let's do it" you should've given her your address and asked: "When will you be here?"

Girls have short attention spans. When they are ready to meet they want to do it now, or they'll find someone else.

Agree with Jozi and Saturdays are the worst dates for dates as she probably has 5 different offers come in by the end of the week.

Me: Come over.

Her: I will when i’m out of work. What will we be doing? I kind of feel like staying indoors.

Me: Good, because it’s Hitler documentary night. It’s the one on Eva Braun. I need you to see how a loyal woman behaves.

Her: lol ok, i’m out of work now.

Me: I left the door to the führerbunker unlocked, so just come on in.

Her: jawohl mein führer!

(12-17-2018 02:39 PM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  Me: Come over.

Her: I will when i’m out of work. What will we be doing? I kind of feel like staying indoors.

Me: Good, because it’s Hitler documentary night. It’s the one on Eva Braun. I need you to see how a loyal woman behaves.

Her: lol ok, i’m out of work now.

Me: I left the door to the führerbunker unlocked, so just come on in.

Her: jawohl mein führer!

And then she never showed up and didn't respond further or what happened here exactly?

Hello,
I was texting a girl on Facebook and she said she was going to this event and will post a photo on Facebook. But when I decided to escalate and ask her for some photos showing her "other side".I got the typical shit test again:"I am not that type of girl."
Obviously I want to convey my interest but I don't wanna sound like a herbivore.
Any idea what to text her?

TLDR: Should I just next or keep pushing?

On roughly 11/17 I got this notch from a girl here in NYC, gonna call her Eritrean 6.

First time we met she mentioned something about not being a good texter. So a few days after the bang she hits me up. We have a back and forth where she responds twice more, then stops responding.

I hit her up the following day, get two messages in response, then no response to my response. At this point I'm feeling a ghosting happening.

About 12 days later I hit her again, being super direct about hanging out sometime that week/weekend. She doesn't respond until the next day, but says she's down to hang one day in particular. My simp-ass suggests dinner. From then until the meetup, she is absurdly responsive.

Have dinner on 12/6, it goes fine, she is receptive to going back to her place. We smoke. When I try and make the moves she says she's on her period, I believe her since I could literally feel the tampon when I tried to finger her. Eventually she gets super tired and I go home. Shoot her the "I got home" text, get a response the following morning about how she had a good time and thanking me for dinner.

Hours later I respond, and hit her with a "maybe we can hang again sometime next week" on 12/7, going direct as I am giving her the benefit of the doubt about not being a good texter. As of 12/18, she still hasn't responded to that question.

So I am thinking a few possible scenarios are at play:

1. The first most obvious, most realistic one is that she is not really interested and is soft nexting me. It's getting to become a stretch giving her the benefit of the doubt of being a bad texter. I could do it in other situations, where the message she didn't respond to was just a statement/wasn't a question. But ignoring a request to hang for 11 days is just egregious. Even during the date, when at her place, I remember seeing a text from some friend of hers asking how "her hot date was going," which given the current issue I seem to be having communicating with her, I interpret as being sarcastic. May have just told her friend she was getting free food lol.

2. She truly might just be a "horrible texter" and it got lost in the shuffle. But to counter that, it's been 11 days and she hasn't thought of texting me once. If there was an interest there, I think she would have done so.

So at this point, I can either just stop or try and hit her up again. My most preferred tactic would be going direct, with some cheeky joke about how I'm still waiting for a response. Nothing to risk but my ego at this point. At first I thought "if she wasn't interested she would have said so" but then I had to think back...I can only think of one non-LTR girl I have notched who hit me with a "hey i'm not interested" after the notch while I'm trying to continue banging - the rest have been a variety of soft nexts/I get annoyed.

(12-17-2018 06:11 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 02:39 PM)RespectivePerspective Wrote:  Me: Come over.

Her: I will when i’m out of work. What will we be doing? I kind of feel like staying indoors.

Me: Good, because it’s Hitler documentary night. It’s the one on Eva Braun. I need you to see how a loyal woman behaves.

Her: lol ok, i’m out of work now.

Me: I left the door to the führerbunker unlocked, so just come on in.

Her: jawohl mein führer!

And then she never showed up and didn't respond further or what happened here exactly?

She came over, and then I fell asleep while we were watching a film. Didn’t get any, but that could’ve easily been mitigated if not for a lack of sleep. I suppose the moral of the story is that anyone could’ve gotten it had they made it up to that point.

Hi guys
I went into a trip which was meant to be a nightmare 8 hours night bus to another country. It turned out to be great , only me and a local albanian 21yo girl were the customers so the driver brought us directly to our destination (the airport) in a mini van.
That young girl was fantastic , not incredibly hot , but a solid 7.5/8 and more than this , she was so simple and innocent , like 80 years ago. I have overcomed my shyness and started to talk to her , at the first cafe break. We then spent 3 hours together waiting at the airport.
I am very inexperienced in "day game" and fund myself quite confident. I got her number at the end. She doesn't drink , doesn't smoke , and seem to be very innocent about the real world , such specimens you only meet in countryside Albania. I am not in love at all but I want to fuck her so much. She goes to Berlin to visit her (incredibly stunning hot ) sister only one year older than her. It will be her first time outside Albania , she seemed very excited to discover the world.

So now my question is , how long should I wait before to contact her (I have her whatsapp) , should I just text or call her ? My intention is to have her in my bed. I couldn't lie about anything , I have only not mentioned that i am married or i have kids. I couldn't dare to lie about the rest.

Hi Gents,

So I’ve been messaging a girl I dated very briefly (no sex) 10 years ago and we’ve made plans to go for a drink on Saturday night.

Context is I used to work at the bar/restaurant we are going to and it’s how we met. We’ve had a sort of in joke about how I mixed up her favourite martinis back in the day. After agreeing to the drink she’s shot out a couple of questions...they may even be shit tests?

First one was “there’s going to be a very disappointed barman there on sat night” to which I responded “I will always be the original and the best” and then she’s thrown out “I told the owner his barmen always have a soft spot for me”

The best I can think of is

“Yes but I’m the only one you’ve ever had a thing for”

"I like that, thus you could ask them for free drinks for us"