Me:How do drugs feel? I've never done anything other than edibles

Her: Amazing
And then fucking terrible
But so amazing that it’s sickeningly worth it
Until it’s not
Haha

Me: Lol you're supposed to tell me not to do them firmly you monster. That was very ambiguous... I'm intrigued

Her: Hahaha

Me: Gonna be in Chicago like:
(I send link to Wolf of Wall Street scene in which Donnie and Jordan Belfort smoke crack)

Her: Lmaoooooo! Yup
I never smoked crack but judging by the insane amounts of cocaine I used to do I can only imagine how fucking nuts it is
Hahaha

Me:You dropping hints? ?

Her: Yep
Fuck it [my name]
Let's abandon our responsibilities and become crackheads
?
Hahaha

Me:Functioning crackheads we won't abandon our responsibilities

Have you seen jungle fever?

Her:Nope

Me:Well thr plot is a black man has an affair with a white women in early 90s NYC... But a side story is his crack addicted brother and girlfriend. Theoretically we could play out all aspects of the plot

Her:Haha nice. Let's do it! What could go wrong?

Me:You come here then I'll fly back to Chicago.

Her:Sounds good


Me: Check out flights I've seen as low as $55


Last text sent 4 days ago and no response. How to proceed?

Girl I managed to have sex with on first date.

I left a voicemail to call me back, she called back and I organised to go bowling (quick convo).

Day after: I confirm time bowling is booked and she says cool

Next day:
Her: "hey I'm really sick today, if I'm not better tomorrow I don't think I'll be able to come "
Me: That sucks, hope you feel better soon
Me: I can't cancel so let me know how you feel tomorrow and if not we will reschedule

Next day:
Her: sorry I'm not feeling any better today
1h15 mins later:
Her: I wouldn't mind postponing but next week is a week of exams for me so I'll be super busy.


Given that she double texted me an hour between texts. I think she is still interested. BUT things get super complicated. Next week is final University week before 4 weeks of Christmas holidays then 3 weeks of exams. I'm 99% sure she is going to go back to her home country for Christmas so next week is last time I can see her again for a while. She is doing a weird course so has exams next week as well as per her text.

I don't really know what to do because as much as I don't want oneitis, I genuinely think it will be healthy for me to have a gf for once even if its for a few months and of all dates I've been to recently, her personality clicks with mine best. I also think that if I don't see her at least a 2nd time before we break up for Christmas, it wouldn't work after 7 weeks anyway, so I may as well go bold.

Because of complexity, I decided to call her in the evening as I cba going backwards and forwards over text to get info but she did not answer. No voicemail as used whatsapp to call.

Any advice on what to text / do next?

^^^

You definitely have oneitis all because you banged a girl on the first date.

You're already having visions about having a GF when you barely know this girl yet.

She might be a cool girl but you need slow down.

She's giving you counter offer but she's also giving you excuses (valid ones or not).

You gave her a call she didn't answer, what you should of done right after is say, "hey give me a call back when you have the chance"

Then talk it out and clear things up and figure out what time she's got free next week and then plan some time to meet her.

(12-06-2018 05:12 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  Girl I managed to have sex with on first date.

I left a voicemail to call me back, she called back and I organised to go bowling (quick convo).

What in the fuck? I understand you may be young, but having sex on the first date and then asking her to go bowling is a crap idea. That's going backwards. You should be setting up to hang out and share a bottle of wine while watching a movie at your place, not going out bowling

My comments in bold below:

(12-06-2018 05:12 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  Day after: I confirm time bowling is booked and she says cool

Next day:
Her: "hey I'm really sick today, if I'm not better tomorrow I don't think I'll be able to come "
This was her realizing how boring bowling sounds and flaking on you.
Me: That sucks, hope you feel better soon
Me: I can't cancel so let me know how you feel tomorrow and if not we will reschedule
This is you not realizing she's flaking on your boring date

Next day:
Her: sorry I'm not feeling any better today
1h15 mins later:
Her: I wouldn't mind postponing but next week is a week of exams for me so I'll be super busy.
You may have a chance here, but it's likely she just feels guilty about her canceling on you when you can't change the plans.


Given that she double texted me an hour between texts. I think she is still interested. BUT things get super complicated. Next week is final University week before 4 weeks of Christmas holidays then 3 weeks of exams. I'm 99% sure she is going to go back to her home country for Christmas so next week is last time I can see her again for a while. She is doing a weird course so has exams next week as well as per her text.

I don't really know what to do because as much as I don't want oneitis, I genuinely think it will be healthy for me to have a gf for once even if its for a few months and of all dates I've been to recently, her personality clicks with mine best. I also think that if I don't see her at least a 2nd time before we break up for Christmas, it wouldn't work after 7 weeks anyway, so I may as well go bold.

Because of complexity, I decided to call her in the evening as I cba going backwards and forwards over text to get info but she did not answer. No voicemail as used whatsapp to call.

Any advice on what to text / do next?

I think this one is probably dead in the water, but if you're going to do anything it would be to offer to share a bottle of wine or liquor or whatnot with her right after her exams (to celebrate her being done with the exams). Easy, low investment.

You had sex with her but I don't see any teasing or flirting in your texts, gotta keep them on their toes.

(12-06-2018 05:47 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ^^^

You definitely have oneitis all because you banged a girl on the first date.

You're already having visions about having a GF when you barely know this girl yet.

She might be a cool girl but you need slow down.

She's giving you counter offer but she's also giving you excuses (valid ones or not).

You gave her a call she didn't answer, what you should of done right after is say, "hey give me a call back when you have the chance"

Then talk it out and clear things up and figure out what time she's got free next week and then plan some time to meet her.

I know my post makes it seem like otherwise, but I wasn't very clear. I do want a relationship before I graduate this year, as I will be doing a lot of travelling after and I want to get some experience both in regards to performance in bed and in relationships. Given that's my aim, I may as well try to find someone as compatible as possible and out of my current leads, she's someone I can see getting myself along with.

I'm still doing my best to approach other girls etc and straight after I called her, I called another girl to set a 3rd date.

What do you think I should do now to maximise my chances of getting a 2nd date and then seeing how it goes from there? I missed the chance to msg her straight away as you suggested. My plan was to text her tomorrow:
"It's so frustrating to be ill when you have exams"
"Give me a call when you get a chance"

(12-06-2018 06:01 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(12-06-2018 05:12 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  Girl I managed to have sex with on first date.

I left a voicemail to call me back, she called back and I organised to go bowling (quick convo).

What in the fuck? I understand you may be young, but having sex on the first date and then asking her to go bowling is a crap idea. That's going backwards. You should be setting up to hang out and share a bottle of wine while watching a movie at your place, not going out bowling

My comments in bold below:

(12-06-2018 05:12 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  Day after: I confirm time bowling is booked and she says cool

Next day:
Her: "hey I'm really sick today, if I'm not better tomorrow I don't think I'll be able to come "
This was her realizing how boring bowling sounds and flaking on you.
Me: That sucks, hope you feel better soon
Me: I can't cancel so let me know how you feel tomorrow and if not we will reschedule
This is you not realizing she's flaking on your boring date

Next day:
Her: sorry I'm not feeling any better today
1h15 mins later:
Her: I wouldn't mind postponing but next week is a week of exams for me so I'll be super busy.
You may have a chance here, but it's likely she just feels guilty about her canceling on you when you can't change the plans.


Given that she double texted me an hour between texts. I think she is still interested. BUT things get super complicated. Next week is final University week before 4 weeks of Christmas holidays then 3 weeks of exams. I'm 99% sure she is going to go back to her home country for Christmas so next week is last time I can see her again for a while. She is doing a weird course so has exams next week as well as per her text.

I don't really know what to do because as much as I don't want oneitis, I genuinely think it will be healthy for me to have a gf for once even if its for a few months and of all dates I've been to recently, her personality clicks with mine best. I also think that if I don't see her at least a 2nd time before we break up for Christmas, it wouldn't work after 7 weeks anyway, so I may as well go bold.

Because of complexity, I decided to call her in the evening as I cba going backwards and forwards over text to get info but she did not answer. No voicemail as used whatsapp to call.

Any advice on what to text / do next?

I think this one is probably dead in the water, but if you're going to do anything it would be to offer to share a bottle of wine or liquor or whatnot with her right after her exams (to celebrate her being done with the exams). Easy, low investment.

You had sex with her but I don't see any teasing or flirting in your texts, gotta keep them on their toes.

I'll be honest, I'm lost here. I feel like I get conflicted advice from different sources and I don't really know what to do.
I understand different people have different ways of dealing with situations but I seem to always do it "wrong".

Keep to logistics only while texting vs flirt/tease.

Sexualise texts (Don't bore her) vs Don't sexualise too early (scare off)

Suggest dates that directly imply sex (movie night with wine) vs dates where it's not just an invite to bang.

I dno, even if she agrees to come straight for wine and movie. How many times do I ask to do same thing? What are interesting dates?

Sorry for being such an idiot but these things just haven't clicked in me yet and I don't know how to deal with it.

(12-06-2018 06:17 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  I'll be honest, I'm lost here. I feel like I get conflicted advice from different sources and I don't really know what to do.
I understand different people have different ways of dealing with situations but I seem to always do it "wrong".

Quote:Keep to logistics only while texting vs flirt/tease.

Texting a girl too much give a needy vibe, and shows you have no life, and that you wait on her every text.

Quote:Sexualise texts (Don't bore her) vs Don't sexualise too early (scare off)

You've already fucked her, so you CAN sexualize the texts (in a funny light hearted way).

Quote:Suggest dates that directly imply sex (movie night with wine) vs dates where it's not just an invite to bang.

Who says you can't do both? Go out for a drink do something fun, and end the night at your place with a bottle of win.

Quote:I dno, even if she agrees to come straight for wine and movie. How many times do I ask to do same thing? What are interesting dates?

As long as you build interest and as long as she shows interest.

They key is BUILDING interest, with funny playful texts, even teasing lightly teasing, her all moving the goal posts to the next date you guys have.

Bowling honestly is kind of boring, it can be made fun, if you hype it up, all you did was ask her to bowl.

She wants to be entertained she wants to have fun with you, you can do a shitload of stuff other than bowling that's interactive.

Quote:Sorry for being such an idiot but these things just haven't clicked in me yet and I don't know how to deal with it.

There's not need to apologize you seeked out help in the right place.

Aneroid is right and dropped some really good advice for you.

(12-06-2018 08:29 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Texting a girl too much give a needy vibe, and shows you have no life, and that you wait on her every text.

Understand.

Quote:You've already fucked her, so you CAN sexualize the texts (in a funny light hearted way)

I'm really shit at this, is there a guide or some examples I can get an idea for?

Quote:Who says you can't do both? Go out for a drink do something fun, and end the night at your place with a bottle of win. As long as you build interest and as long as she shows interest.

They key is BUILDING interest, with funny playful texts, even teasing lightly teasing, her all moving the goal posts to the next date you guys have.

Bowling honestly is kind of boring, it can be made fun, if you hype it up, all you did was ask her to bowl.

She wants to be entertained she wants to have fun with you, you can do a shitload of stuff other than bowling that's interactive.

On the phone I made it seem like a competition and loser would have a forfeit. My plan was to then drive to a local secluded scenery spot and escalate car sex. Then to bring her back to mine and do it again.

I went bowling with a friend instead and 1 game for 2 people took 15 mins. I agree it may not be the most interesting thing but its quick, light competition and avoids the 'He just wants me sex' feeling in my opinion.

I'm probably wrong but I have this feeling that inviting someone for drinks (which what first date was) over and over, even if it's at different bars/ at home is more repetitive and boring but I guess I'll give it a try as my way has obv not worked well in multiple cases.

Met lizard in clothing store, she measured me up, felt that she could be flirting with me but possibly for a sale. She gave me her cell number, texted her a week later with a 'Hi, it's Moma' and a reminder as to who I am.
She responded back with a 'Good afternoon' and a sun emoji.
I responded back with a 'Good afternoon to you too'. No response since then.
How should I reopen or proceed?

(12-07-2018 03:14 AM)Moma Wrote:  Met lizard in clothing store, she measured me up, felt that she could be flirting with me but possibly for a sale. She gave me her cell number, texted her a week later with a 'Hi, it's Moma' and a reminder as to who I am.
She responded back with a 'Good afternoon' and a sun emoji.
I responded back with a 'Good afternoon to you too'. No response since then.
How should I reopen or proceed?

Just ask her out for a drink

(12-06-2018 05:12 PM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  Girl I managed to have sex with on first date.

I left a voicemail to call me back, she called back and I organised to go bowling (quick convo).

Day after: I confirm time bowling is booked and she says cool

Next day:
Her: "hey I'm really sick today, if I'm not better tomorrow I don't think I'll be able to come "
Me: That sucks, hope you feel better soon
Me: I can't cancel so let me know how you feel tomorrow and if not we will reschedule

Next day:
Her: sorry I'm not feeling any better today
1h15 mins later:
Her: I wouldn't mind postponing but next week is a week of exams for me so I'll be super busy.

Update: I think my logic fucked up again. Didn't want to directly ask her out again to not seem needy but given she did counter offer, I now feel like I should have been direct.

Me: Exams on the last week? Going to be a wild celebration afterwards
Her: Yeah my friend is throwing this huge party, will be great fun
Her: and you what are your plans for the end of the semester? Going back to >Country<? (She wrongly assumed I don't live in the UK)

My plan was to suggest to celebrate at mine with wine as aneroid suggested but now... She's most likely leaving the country for Christmas holidays soon after that party as well so not sure whats best to do here?

Update about a 10 I wrote about last week (I can't quote on mobile)
I did call her on Tuesday with no answer. Then sent her sms next day saying I feel like doing something and two times when I'm free. She didn't respond, so I closed this.
Today she wrote me:"Sorry I am extremely busy. I gotta finish that project in two weeks and I promised a lot of friends to see them before Christmas. I need to clone myself or cut for more pieces."

Any further steps? Nexting in not an option at this girl.

Bolded are my suggestions

(12-05-2018 10:09 PM)Snag87 Wrote:  Her: How’s your day?

Me: Great just finished skating (just altered punctuation)

Her: Ice skating? It’s alright I’m at work ??

Me: Yeah gonna take the gold at the 2022 Winter Games.

Me: " at work??" Don't you know where you are? Were you kidnapped...i don't know you well enough to pay the ransom, (usually I hate double-texting but I couldn't miss a chance to imply she's somewhat lower value...i.e. I'm going to pay to free her from her "kidnappers")

Her: Lol well where I work there never seems to be a dull moment BUT I’d still rather be home haha. Saturday I believe I’m working. I have to put some Christmas gifts together for coworkers and get some homework done. Hbu?

Me: Playing to sample out light brewing company. You can tag along but if you get drunk and act up I'm pretending I don't know you. (Implies I do fun stuff, it's not date since I was going regardless, and it's invitation for her join my awesome life Also you've set-up the next hang out while framing her as being potentially embarrassing/social awkward.).

Her: When are you doing that?

Me: Thursday

Last text was Monday and no reply. Initiate again? Communion medium was Tinder if it matters

Needed more teasing/playfullness. Go to Chateau Heartiste, read all the text game posts and the Crib Sheet of Game(got tons of good one liners).

Personally I wouldn't restart.

Text game gods please help me with this within 12 hours as i will be replying to this girl again tomorrow when i wake up.

I texted this girl i met on friday at a music event, and we went on for a few messages, good banter and good vibes. Then i stirred the conversation about the gym. My opener for her during the music festival was asking for her training program as she had an amazing ass, so this was relevant.

After 5 messages back and fort talking about the music event I sent her a pic of me putting plates on the bar about to do some squats.

me: you actually motivated me to not skip leg day today. need to catch up to you (kiss emoji)
her: haha im proud of you! i wish i could train right now but my gym is closed until the 11th. you're already way ahead of me (kiss emoji)
me: you surprise me, most girls i talk to are lazy and don't do gym more than once a week
her: oh i love working out! i don't want to sit and watch series in my bed all day, i wanna be productive
me: you're pretty AND smart? something is wrong here. but to be honest, i just work out so i can eat cake without getting fat... it's our little secret now
her: aww you're too nice
her: hahaha oh really? you're very handsome and your body is on point! you can eat all the cake you want :)

Im thinking about either inviting her out on a date to the gym and then switch venue after, go out and eat/drink somewhere. Or invite her to go ice skating with me, is that a good first date idea? Or just go for the safe and the standard cafe date i usually do and keep the gym date for an 2nd date.

"What's your schedule like this week? We should hang out"
"We should work out together this week, are you free on X?"
"How about we grab ice cream sometime this week?"
"We should grab ice cream on X day, you free then?"

How can i be creative with these so they don't sound so boring?

Hope this question isn't too basic. 19 year old college girl I met off seeking.com, have gone out with a few times and banged a few times, even went away for a weekend together. Had a date on Saturday on which we didn't bang. She wanted to and did spend the night, but at the same time wasn't very receptive to my advances and acted like all she wanted to do was go to sleep, which I chalked up to the fact that she said she was running off 1 hour of sleep and had to work again at 5 a.m. the next morning, but in retrospect I might have been telling myself what I wanted to hear there. But she starts texting me last night about how her classes for today were cancelled because of the snow and asking me if my work was canceled, which indicated to me that she was wanting to come over. However, since my work wasn't canceled and it was a regular Sunday night for me, I wasn't in the mood. Then just now I got a text that I don't have to be at work until 10 tomorrow, so I texted the girl:

Me: Hey, we're not opening until 10 tomorrow either, you want to come over?
Her: No.

That's it, a one word no, which she bothered to both capitalize and add a period. Given the fact that we didn't bang on Saturday, I'm worried I was just running insufficient game, she's cooling off and I'm losing her, so this may go beyond just what to text. But, how do you respond to something like that? My gut instinct is to reply with something like "what's the matter," "was it something I said," "don't be like that," all of which I know are beta.

(12-07-2018 12:37 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  Update about a 10 I wrote about last week (I can't quote on mobile)
I did call her on Tuesday with no answer. Then sent her sms next day saying I feel like doing something and two times when I'm free. She didn't respond, so I closed this.
Today she wrote me:"Sorry I am extremely busy. I gotta finish that project in two weeks and I promised a lot of friends to see them before Christmas. I need to clone myself or cut for more pieces."

Any further steps? Nexting in not an option at this girl.

She's giving you excuses but also some truths.

A woman will make time for a man in her life - however it IS the holidays and we get busy with friends/families/partys/etc.

"Busy" is a standard generic excuse.

You reached out to her twice and she never responded - have you ever thought that she nexted you? Not the other way around?

I would put this chick on ice until after New Years.

(12-08-2018 08:07 PM)chvrches Wrote:  Text game gods please help me with this within 12 hours as i will be replying to this girl again tomorrow when i wake up.

I texted this girl i met on friday at a music event, and we went on for a few messages, good banter and good vibes. Then i stirred the conversation about the gym. My opener for her during the music festival was asking for her training program as she had an amazing ass, so this was relevant.

After 5 messages back and fort talking about the music event I sent her a pic of me putting plates on the bar about to do some squats.

me: you actually motivated me to not skip leg day today. need to catch up to you (kiss emoji)
her: haha im proud of you! i wish i could train right now but my gym is closed until the 11th. you're already way ahead of me (kiss emoji)
me: you surprise me, most girls i talk to are lazy and don't do gym more than once a week
her: oh i love working out! i don't want to sit and watch series in my bed all day, i wanna be productive
me: you're pretty AND smart? something is wrong here. but to be honest, i just work out so i can eat cake without getting fat... it's our little secret now
her: aww you're too nice
her: hahaha oh really? you're very handsome and your body is on point! you can eat all the cake you want

Im thinking about either inviting her out on a date to the gym and then switch venue after, go out and eat/drink somewhere. Or invite her to go ice skating with me, is that a good first date idea? Or just go for the safe and the standard cafe date i usually do and keep the gym date for an 2nd date.

"What's your schedule like this week? We should hang out"
"We should work out together this week, are you free on X?"
"How about we grab ice cream sometime this week?"
"We should grab ice cream on X day, you free then?"

How can i be creative with these so they don't sound so boring?

You're showering this chick with emoji's and compliments and you haven't even banged her dude.

With a girl like that, she's probably used to that, especially at the gym, and has orbiters.

Don't be that dude. Good news is she reciprocates to you so you obviously have attraction.

You can flirt a little but use texts for logistics for the date.

Figure out her evening schedule:

"Guess we'll find out, what's your evening (or whatever) schedule like this week?"

She'll probably tell you what it is, then you plan a date for whatever you want to do, drinks and ice skating sounds fun and active.

You can have a gym date especially since her gym is closed. Or avoid the gym and get her out of something comfortable and do something new.

(12-10-2018 06:08 PM)Arcite Wrote:  Hope this question isn't too basic. 19 year old college girl I met off seeking.com, have gone out with a few times and banged a few times, even went away for a weekend together. Had a date on Saturday on which we didn't bang. She wanted to and did spend the night, but at the same time wasn't very receptive to my advances and acted like all she wanted to do was go to sleep, which I chalked up to the fact that she said she was running off 1 hour of sleep and had to work again at 5 a.m. the next morning, but in retrospect I might have been telling myself what I wanted to hear there. But she starts texting me last night about how her classes for today were cancelled because of the snow and asking me if my work was canceled, which indicated to me that she was wanting to come over. However, since my work wasn't canceled and it was a regular Sunday night for me, I wasn't in the mood. Then just now I got a text that I don't have to be at work until 10 tomorrow, so I texted the girl:

Me: Hey, we're not opening until 10 tomorrow either, you want to come over?
Her: No.

That's it, a one word no, which she bothered to both capitalize and add a period. Given the fact that we didn't bang on Saturday, I'm worried I was just running insufficient game, she's cooling off and I'm losing her, so this may go beyond just what to text. But, how do you respond to something like that? My gut instinct is to reply with something like "what's the matter," "was it something I said," "don't be like that," all of which I know are beta.

To me it's obvious she's upset/mad.

You met this chick of Seeking Arrangement so this changes the scenerio a bit.

Why is she mad? Because she sees herself as just a fuck buddy right now (it doesn't matter you had a weekend together). AND/OR she ain't getting paid by you unless you're paying her way whenever and wherever you hangout.

There's a few ways to handle this:

-Ignore her response and figure out when she's free to hangout.
-Laugh and say "someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning mrs grumpy!"
-Go silent on her for a day or two.

Personally I like starting shit with chicks who act catty and tease them (this ain't for the faint of heart)

SA Whores are easily replaceable - so it's on you - you can go silent on her see how she responds - or just ignore what she said and text her later and find out her schedule.

Quote:Girl I managed to have sex with on first date.

I left a voicemail to call me back, she called back and I organised to go bowling (quick convo).

Day after: I confirm time bowling is booked and she says cool

Next day:
Her: "hey I'm really sick today, if I'm not better tomorrow I don't think I'll be able to come Sad "
Me: That sucks, hope you feel better soon Smile
Me: I can't cancel so let me know how you feel tomorrow and if not we will reschedule

Next day:
Her: sorry I'm not feeling any better today
1h15 mins later:
Her: I wouldn't mind postponing but next week is a week of exams for me so I'll be super busy.

Me: Exams on the last week? Going to be a wild celebration afterwards
Her: Yeah my friend is throwing this huge party, will be great fun
Her: and you what are your plans for the end of the semester? Going back to >Country<? (She wrongly assumed I don't live in the UK)

Me: Going to a few bdays and then back to >city I live in when not at uni<
Me: You going >city shes from in diff country<?

Two days later:
Her: For New years yes but also going to >city< and >city<
Her: (sorry for always replying so late)

I can think of few replies but would appreciate advice:
"We should grab a drink before you leave"
"When do you have some time after exams? We should have a celebratory bottle of wine before you leave"

Or ignore and restart in February (2ns semester starts then)

I feel 2 months and a half wait would kill any chance of meeting again anyway so may as well risk it with one of the first 2 replies?
I know that either way its low chance but may as well try something.

(12-10-2018 06:58 PM)kaotic Wrote:  To me it's obvious she's upset/mad.

You met this chick of Seeking Arrangement so this changes the scenerio a bit.

Why is she mad? Because she sees herself as just a fuck buddy right now (it doesn't matter you had a weekend together). AND/OR she ain't getting paid by you unless you're paying her way whenever and wherever you hangout.

There's a few ways to handle this:

-Ignore her response and figure out when she's free to hangout.
-Laugh and say "someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning mrs grumpy!"
-Go silent on her for a day or two.

Personally I like starting shit with chicks who act catty and tease them (this ain't for the faint of heart)

SA Whores are easily replaceable - so it's on you - you can go silent on her see how she responds - or just ignore what she said and text her later and find out her schedule.

When we first got together she said she just wanted something "fun" and non-monogamous, so I'd have thought she'd be OK with being a fuck-buddy. She's never brought up money and in fact has paid for a few things herself even though I offered to.

So far I've gone silent on her. What I'm wondering is how to restart. Can I just text her "hey, let's hang out Wednesday" or whatever, as though nothing happened?

In terms of the 2nd response, I've never had success going cocky/funny over text. Maybe my calibration is off, but every time I've texted a girl something like that, she's just acted offended, gotten more bitchy, and it's dug me an even deeper hole.

Well hello this is my first post
I'll post the text as cut paste from messenger all advice is welcomed
I tried to make a move after I showed interest in her but she wasn't there when I went to meet her in person.
Later on I I got tried of playing around tried direct game which backfired tried to fix it with indirect game basically I ruined it all.
Any advice on whether I should talk with her again (that I have a chance to fix this) or just forget it since it's a lost cause?



Hello! I was dancing sorry...
Her About the math.. I'm really disappointed with myself
Dancing
I didn't know you dance
Well,That's new
Her Yes folklore dancing
For good luck?
Folklore dancing in Bulgarian is usually when they pick roses
But don't be disappointed or anything. I am sure u did alright
Yes but there's more than roses it's really interesting if you watch the figures which are made while dancers make the exact dance

I'm not sure about the math I didn't realize how much time I need for some of the examples

R u taking a dance class?

Yes
I dance for about 15 years
Do they have any Spanish dance lessons?
No but I know where you can go for Spanish dance
I just have to ask one friend
Is Bulgarian your favorite?
Yeees.
But
I also really like Georgian dances
They're reaaaaally beautiful

Tell me are there any dances for duos?
I never tried to improve my dancing.

There are number of places for Latino music dance in pairs round Sofia
Like "Latino force"

I will check it out.
But you seem to be more experienced

They're good
I haven't been to Latino dances
But my family is addicted to them
So I know a few steps
Girls who are dedicated are really rare
U r full of surprises
But you seemed kinda of timid at first
Really?? I think I'm really boring and stupid person to be honest
Yeah sometimes I can't talk In other time I can't stop talking

Yeah I know I always try to direct the conversation to find out more about you

But you always end up talking with me about Yana
I'm sure you just worry too much

Exactly
See ! you know a lot about me
I don't know why but I'm like bomb everything around me is moving
And I can't just sit in one place

That's not bad at all
But sometimes I'm like destroyed and just can't talk
You're like a midnight owl sometimes restless others too hyperactive.
I don't think you realize that this is a wonderful trait you've got
Sometimes you're chill
Everybody gets the urge to relax every now and then
And it's nice to share these moments
I criticise myself a lot and I can't even understand things that everyone have been always telling me
They just don't understand you well enough


Yes.. maybe you're right and I'm really happy that you're thinking that
I know how you feel sometimes my ego controls me too.

But we grow stronger
It reflects on everything from trying to dance for the first time to speaking with a native a couple of words

But it's the joy that comes out of sharing it with others that is not easily forgotten.

Beautiful words !
Like you're reading a part of my mind
Don't show that side of mine to anyone
Keep it a secret
I promise
It will be between you and me
tell me how's your schedule like on Sunday?

On Sunday hmm I will be working at the morning after that I will be at my last school cause there'll be a festival and the evening.. I'm working again unfortunately this Sunday my schedule is full

You look like you've got too much on your plate.
When's your festival?
Text me the details and I'll see when is a suitable time

It's from 12 pm to about 3 pm in the afternoon but I will be helping and I'm not sure if I will have the chance to walk around the festival with you but if you want I can offer you something different .. I have a concert on Wednesday (19.12) I will be dancing if you want to come I will send you the location

Ok we'll talk tomorrow.I gotta sleep.I slept late yesterday.
See you tomorrow!


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New day she flaked I panicked and shit spiralled out of control.

Hey,I'm gonna go ahead.I'm late.
I'll text you later
Okay
I missed call her. I worried I'm losing attraction.
What's up
I left too today without talking with you.
Don't worry we can chat now or we can talk on Monday
I hope I didn't give a bad first impression
Of course no
Don't worry



I'm too busy I had to leave my friends then say hello to others from the embassy. I meet them only on Friday.all of that had to be done before going to deliver some papers to a friend of my father.
Now I have to go half way across Sofia to meet a second friend.
But nevermind that We should make up some time to meet?
Okay but it have to be after these week cause I'm really busy
It's nice sharing your thoughts with someone without being stressed

I will be out of Sofia after some time.
Yeah
I'll go with a my friend to pleben next week to pickup his Turkish gf.
I still want to see you before that
But why you want to see me out I mean we can chat I just can't go out in the next two weeks cause I'm really busy and I can't find free time
Cause I'm happy to have found someonevwho is different than anybody else I meet in the last 2 months
And you're the first with an actually genuinely nice character.

I'm glad to hear that I just can't do it this week if you want after new year
Ok Best of luck in the festival
Thank you!! Have a great time in Pleben!


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This is where I regret every word I said and honestly if you're still reading by now. thanks.that girl was the first girl I feel in love with and if you know a way to salvage this situation then I am seriously all ears.

But you have to send me a picture of yourself
I want to see your dance in that festival.
I will post a picture on my Facebook account

It’d be cool to see something else
But I'm don't think you're the type for it.

What do you mean

I fall in love with beautiful photos and you seem to be an excellent photographer
I want you to show me how good you are.
I don't mind seeing your playful side?

I'm not that kind of person sorry

No I never meant that
I'm not talking about that
You actually think that I'm a dick

No I don't
I thought you were a friend
I'm just working at the moment
I can't pay attention to my phone
I'm looking for someone to have a serious connection with.
A deep conversation.Not a fuck and dump
I understand but why with me I think Martin is smarter than me and he's a boy.. I may not understand some things like if you're in love with a girl.. we can chat but unfortunately I can't chat 24/7
I have a lot of problems to deal with

Ok do you have a bf?
And wait.. what about your friends form today? Can you talk with them or they're not okay for talking this things
At the moment no I'm dealing with my ex

Seriously.So is my gf

Wait what?
I thought we're talking about stuff that doesn't matter
I just can't understand you
I just wanna start by being friends.do you still have feelings for your ex?
It's a secret
You never had feelings to another guy after him?
I don't care if you think Martin is smarter
Your a smart girl.I want you to tell me
What?
I wanna know are you open for a relationship?
And if you're gonna think about it then just forget it.

No
Ok
Then it's best that we stay friends.



Thanks for reading help get her back and not repeat this mistake again.
Thanks

a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Why do you want to take a vacation with her? You're paying for her tickets and she still isn't even that interested. I don't know what you've said to her previously but seems like you have messed up game-wise in more ways than one. Your considered reply is cringe. The best answer is to not even reply at this point, and maybe some damage can be undone.

I have a hotter than average match (8-9) with slutty pics on Tinder who opened me with: "Don't you seem like quite the womanizer . Hi!".

Curious what you guys would reply with (I have some pics with half naked chicks in them).

(12-15-2018 10:40 AM)Jozi Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 08:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  a Russian chick who is a former fuck buddy (consider her a 7.5 at her best) with whom I was on a two-week vacation last year forgot her hair curler last time. Chatted with her on an off, at one point she deleted her viber, no contact for a month and than she sends me an email. After some back and forth, offered to take a vacation to a neutral country.


Her: Flights are too expensive
Me: Got you covered, I saw a round trip for $1200
Her: OMG, that's more than my entire salary. Why do we need to take a vacation together anyway?

Considering writing: to return the hair curler of course)

Why do you want to take a vacation with her? You're paying for her tickets and she still isn't even that interested. I don't know what you've said to her previously but seems like you have messed up game-wise in more ways than one. Your considered reply is cringe. The best answer is to not even reply at this point, and maybe some damage can be undone.

Want to take a vacation with her since
a) already have it approved
b) warm up from the cold in the tropics
c) fuck her as much as possible in those 7 days.

I had two previous prospects who I was planning on going with but they could not get the time off. May have been too aloof with the chick in question in the summer. At one point, did not write her for a week as was on an expedition with no phone coverage. She paid for her plane ticket last time so she definitely lost interest.

But yes, strongly considering the alternative of just taking a small South American trip solo.

(12-15-2018 10:51 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  Want to take a vacation with her since
a) already have it approved
b) warm up from the cold in the tropics
c) fuck her as much as possible in those 7 days.

I had two previous prospects who I was planning on going with but they could not get the time off. May have been too aloof with the chick in question in the summer. At one point, did not write her for a week as was on an expedition with no phone coverage.

But yes, strongly considering the alternative of just taking a small South American trip solo.

Alright. I would be honest with her. Tell her that you want her to tag along because a.) You need some sun and b.) You don't want to spend time chasing chicks during the vacation so prefer to have one with you that you can unload your semen into. You asked her first because you enjoyed the last trip you guys took together. "But if you're not interested it's cool, then have a good life".

Honesty is always the best. I have never read a single book on Game but I watched a 1 hour clip with David X many many years ago. I adopted his full on honesty style and I've never had a problem with girls since.

(12-15-2018 10:43 AM)Jozi Wrote:  I have a hotter than average match (8-9) with slutty pics on Tinder who opened me with: "Don't you seem like quite the womanizer . Hi!".

Curious what you guys would reply with (I have some pics with half naked chicks in them).

I decided to respond with "Only when my nuts are aching and I don't have anything better to do" and then "I guess you're in luck tho, by the time I get back in town I'm betting that's precisely the situation I'm gonna be in".

Quote:Alright. I would be honest with her. Tell her that you want her to tag along because a.) You need some sun and b.) You don't want to spend time chasing chicks during the vacation so prefer to have one with you that you can unload your semen into. You asked her first because you enjoyed the last trip you guys took together. "But if you're not interested it's cool, then have a good life".

Honesty is always the best. I have never read a single book on Game but I watched a 1 hour clip with David X many many years ago. I adopted his full on honesty style and I've never had a problem with girls since.

Dang, I see the appeal of being honest. Will check out David X. Saying b. that "I don't want to chase other chicks" seems a little dicey. The idea that a man chases chicks devalues them in a girls eyes as a high value man has chicks chasing him.