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Anchor Man · 2019-03-25 18:00:00 · #3808
(03-25-2019 05:14 PM)ksbms Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 01:36 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  It is not what I should text next . It is more like post -text analysis . This chic is from Angola .
After some rambling, I figured she wasn’t much chatty . So I decided to ask her out

-Me: what’s your availability next week so we can hang out ?
-Her: it depends on the work . I’ll let you know .
-Me: Nah never mind then . Maybe some other time .
-Her: Alright

Then she blocked me .
I don’t care much about her . But did I handle “ I’ll tell you know” correctly ?

Tough to tell with so scant information. So, I'll just nitpick on the exchange itself. Fundamentally, there's nothing seriously wrong but we can always strive to do better. Perhaps being a bit taciturn would work better, no need to add "so we can hang out?". It is implied in the first part of the question. Her reply weren't overly warm but perhaps she worked shifts, hence she didn't know? In any case, she passed the ball to you, informing you she would let you know. A lukewarm lead, lead nonetheless. Your reply at the end was, unfortunately, overreacted. Remember, emotional control is the bedrock of good game and subtleties in message exchanges with tightrope walking leads can make them or break them. What I would do, recognize it was a lukewarm lead by mildly vacuuming and just acknowledging it by a nonchalant "thumbs up" emoticon. Then roll off, and restart a few days later if didn't hear from her again.

Thanks, Ksbms.
I wasn't intended to overreact. My intent was to withdraw the offer. It iwas more like "No I am not going to wait around until you got back to me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWk730HUOTM&t=451s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAcRQiGhJA&t=332s

I followed those two guys advice.
I am willing to hear your thought though.
AneroidOcean · 2019-03-25 19:50:00 · #3809
(03-25-2019 06:00 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  Thanks, Ksbms.
I wasn't intended to overreact. My intent was to withdraw the offer. It iwas more like "No I am not going to wait around until you got back to me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWk730HUOTM&t=451s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAcRQiGhJA&t=332s

I followed those two guys advice.
I am willing to hear your thought though.

This may be a translation problem as you said the girl was from Angola? Maybe you or her or both don't speak perfect English so something is getting lost in translation, but:

You didn't withdraw the offer. What you said was, "Nah never mind then . Maybe some other time" which regardless of how YOU felt about it, comes across as butt-hurt.

If you wanted to come across as indifferent you'd have responded as ksbms suggested which is a VERY short and very low effort response which acknowledges but doesn't seem overly excited at the possibility of seeing her in the future. In this case he suggested a thumbs up, which is roughly equivalent to an ok.

You could argue that it falls into her frame, but I think it's better to have something fairly difficult to read like that versus something that has the stink of butt-hurt on it.

Your first link is from a relationship coach that is specifically talking about ex-girlfriends, so it doesn't apply really, but even so he says to give a nonchalant answer and then hit her up a week or two into the future.

The second link is from a guy talking about an in-person approach. Was this an in-person approach? I get the feeling that it was an online dating situation or a very weak number close in person. If you had the girl truly interested in you, either you had prior weak text game or you took far too long to get around to asking her out. He also states that you need to weed out girls that are low-interest, which it doesn't seem like you are if you're not pursuing other girls in earnest.

Verdict: Low calibration in this case, from what little you've given us.

Remember, her answer wasn't positive, but it doesn't necessarily mean she was blowing you off, maybe just not sure about her schedule or maybe not sure about you. Reacting by shutting down any possibility wasn't going to result in her being more interested or think of you more highly.
Anchor Man · 2019-03-25 23:13:00 · #3810
Thank you , guys.
I was looking for this kind of analysis because I was confused. I really appreciate the time you put to write this .
BlastbeatCasanova · 2019-03-25 23:30:00 · #3811
Using questions to prompt a response is good text game strategy, but I would advise to not use the question mark too much. The question mark shifts the tone of the text and just reads weak as fuck in my opinion. I try to save it for option closes, as you'll see below
Disclaimer: I'm not a text game god by any means but I've been told that my text game is pretty sick (by friends I've showed screenshots to and helped with replies)

Which sounds more commanding/aloof/"alpha"?

"so how's your week going?"
-or-
"so how's your week going"

also:
"What’s your availability next week so we can hang out?" (No offense, this is a pretty weak supplicating text IMO)
-or-
"I have a few free nights this week, let's meet up for a cold one. I can do Weds or Thurs, which works better for you?"
-ball is in her court, she'll either answer or ghost you.
Anchor Man · 2019-03-26 21:14:00 · #3812
When She Texts You "We'll See"
Good strategy
https://www.girlschase.com/content/tacti...u-well-see
ksbms · 2019-03-29 08:01:00 · #3813
(03-26-2019 09:14 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  When She Texts You "We'll See"
Good strategy
https://www.girlschase.com/content/tacti...u-well-see

The guide is decent, it covers the absolute basics and the underlying psychological dynamics going on there. I can't fault it for its defensive strategy. Good for a beginner but if you want to bang 8+ girls, you'll need a significant step up from that.
matt1996 · 2019-04-07 15:00:00 · #3814
Been dating a girl for a little while, 4 dates so far, had sex 2 times. She has way more feelings than i do. She's pushing for a relationship while im not sure yet, i enjoy our time, but i don't know if im ready. This morning she slept over and left the house. I told her i wasn't doing anything today, just chilling at home since it's sunday. Later the same day she texts me.

her: "new day, new girl?"
me: "haha you're crazy"
me: "what do you mean"
her: "you know what i mean. who was that girl you were with after we said goodbye"
me: "you're funny. where did you see me?"

i thought she was testing me or some weird shit, so i just teased her.

her: "my friend saw you and told me about it"
me: "i don't remember, was she pretty? if yes then maybe it was me".
her: "it doesn't matter if she was pretty or not"
me: "i've been home all day long, so your friend must have mistaken me for someone else"
her: "yeah whatever, don't try to save it now"

so im actually innocent and she must have seen someone who looked like me, cus i have been home all day long.

i just ignored the message since i can't be arsed to discuss something im not involved in. what's a good response to this? Would it actually be a good chance to do dread game to turn it around and tell her "yeah i was seeing some girl" for her to know she has competition which makes her invest even more?
Tinder Scientist · 2019-04-07 15:16:00 · #3815
She didn't "see" you anywhere, she is just overly jealous and it's not relationship material.

Despite this if you actually want to keep her interested I would either ignore it or be vague about it.
Confirming it for her could go badly and if you go into the defensive you lose frame. This applies 10x when she is texting you, just ignore it.
AneroidOcean · 2019-04-08 13:08:00 · #3816
(04-07-2019 03:00 PM)matt1996 Wrote:  i just ignored the message since i can't be arsed to discuss something im not involved in. what's a good response to this? Would it actually be a good chance to do dread game to turn it around and tell her "yeah i was seeing some girl" for her to know she has competition which makes her invest even more?

Actually, you carried on quite a dialogue about something you "can't be arsed to discuss" and I'm not sure why.

Clearly saying you're seeing some girl is not going to help, I'm not sure why you think so. The only thing that could save this is talking to her in person. Tell her something like,

"I don't know who got a hold of your phone but call me when you see this"

Then when she calls and says it's really her then just tell her it's weird that her friend thinks she saw me, you just joked with whoever you thought had her phone and move past it towards meeting up.

Tell her you don't appreciate her behavior and that you are enjoying dating her but if she's going to accuse you of shit you haven't done that you're fine not dating her.

If she asks about exclusivity tell her you're fine the way it is and gotta see how it goes, too early especially with this nonsense happening.

Unlikely to be saved. Next time don't fall into women's frame and text feminine shit like "haha" as the beginning of a response to a serious accusation.
AWright · 2019-04-08 13:49:00 · #3817
A plate has gone cold on me and I'm 90% sure it was because she read my phone when I was sleeping, when I woke up in the morning she was gone, our phones were right by each other on the night stand, any other time she has stayed over i drive her home, I didn't think much at the time, thought she may have taken an uber but she left her prizes we had won at dave and busters the night before. She hadn't text me in 3 days which is unusual, so I texted her yesterday, no reply, when she woke up before me she must have saw I was out cold and taken a look at my phone which had me talking about other girls among other things. This was 2.5 months ago and then she text me out of the blue a few days ago saying
Hey
I ask her how she has been
She says good and she was sorry for ghosting me
I said its ok

I haven't detected her since then a few days ago but I'd like to bang her again. Whats the best path forward?
matt1996 · 2019-04-08 14:46:00 · #3818
she texted me tonight after ignoring her last message. she said

her: angry?
me: no
her: want to come over tomorrow? i have the house for my self
me: maybe. i will think about it
her: something wrong?
me: didn't appreciate the way you acted yesterday
her: what did i do?
me: you know what you did
her: nope

ignored message, then she texts 10 min later
her: you're so cold today
ignored message again, will hit her up tomorrow make her make up for it

i don't know how but it turned in my favor somehow. i appreciate your analysis very much androidocean, but as i said she's too invested in me while im just fucking around so i have the upper hand

but you are right about the "haha" being feminine, i need to stop this asap.

also i might be stupid for double ignoring, she might get offended and hurt, but im willing to take the risk, it will spark some emotions in her for now, make her think
coffeedrinker · 2019-04-15 12:19:00 · #3819
...

Her: "Hows it going?"

Me: "Writing my report, need some entertainment"

Her: "You are being way too obvious >name<"

Her: "What's the report about?"

She seems to be trying to control the frame and I can't figure a way out. Advice appreciated
Anchor Man · 2019-04-15 12:59:00 · #3820
Yes, I am obvious . I have nothing to hide lol ?
Or something along those lines
chvrches · 2019-04-20 06:04:00 · #3821
Guys, what do you usually text girls you've met through night game, on a night out?

Met this group of girls last night, they were celebrating a friends 20 year old birthday. The birthday girl seemed upset/bored. My friend and i went up and opened up the set. 30 min later we're having a blast, dancing with the girls and each one having their girl. When the night ended they told us we were the highlight of their night and they had a lot of fun. We got their numbers before they left. My girl seemed very feminine and was taking my kino very well. We talked for a while and i told her i'd invite her out on a date. She told me she loved swimming so i told her we'd go out swim together. She said let's do it.

How could i open this up? Im trying to invite her out in a few days, but i want to warm her up over text before asking the question. Any advice?
The Usual Suspect · 2019-04-20 06:07:00 · #3822
Make some joke about getting your Speedo’s ready for the swim?
Anchor Man · 2019-04-20 17:46:00 · #3823
(03-29-2019 08:01 AM)ksbms Wrote:  
(03-26-2019 09:14 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  When She Texts You "We'll See"
Good strategy
https://www.girlschase.com/content/tacti...u-well-see

The guide is decent, it covers the absolute basics and the underlying psychological dynamics going on there. I can't fault it for its defensive strategy. Good for a beginner but if you want to bang 8+ girls, you'll need a significant step up from that.

Thanks,
Do you have anything to share with us please ? I like your strategy you are one of few people here who still believes in conversion and not quick nexting at the first sign of trouble
Snag87 · 2019-04-24 16:46:00 · #3824
Had a date with a 19 year old scheduled. I'm 31 but claiming to be 26. Unsurprisingly she cancelled

Me: See you at the alley in a few hours. Bring your A game ?

Her:
I'm exhausted... could we do tm instead?

Me: No can do tomorrow I'm giving a presentation in the afternoon for work. If you're tired just come to my suite. We can watch bad movies all night you just have to promise not to touch the liquor cabinet ?

Her: I'm going to have to pass. I'll fall asleep on the way over
asianirish1 · 2019-04-25 05:08:00 · #3825
(04-20-2019 06:04 AM)chvrches Wrote:  Guys, what do you usually text girls you've met through night game, on a night out?

Met this group of girls last night, they were celebrating a friends 20 year old birthday. The birthday girl seemed upset/bored. My friend and i went up and opened up the set. 30 min later we're having a blast, dancing with the girls and each one having their girl. When the night ended they told us we were the highlight of their night and they had a lot of fun. We got their numbers before they left. My girl seemed very feminine and was taking my kino very well. We talked for a while and i told her i'd invite her out on a date. She told me she loved swimming so i told her we'd go out swim together. She said let's do it.

How could i open this up? Im trying to invite her out in a few days, but i want to warm her up over text before asking the question. Any advice?
From reading Christian Mc Queen's posts way back in this thread, Come across with a cocky/exciting opener that sparks the interest she had that night.

(04-24-2019 04:46 PM)Snag87 Wrote:  Had a date with a 19 year old scheduled. I'm 31 but claiming to be 26. Unsurprisingly she cancelled

Me: See you at the alley in a few hours. Bring your A game ?

Her:
I'm exhausted... could we do tm instead?

Me: No can do tomorrow I'm giving a presentation in the afternoon for work. If you're tired just come to my suite. We can watch bad movies all night you just have to promise not to touch the liquor cabinet ?

Her: I'm going to have to pass. I'll fall asleep on the way over
Not a text game issue, People have feelings. Give it another shot and then fuck it if negative
ndsamkw · 2019-04-26 19:28:00 · #3826
Could use some advice for a double text issue.

Me: I finally checked my schedule this weekend - I have a friend in town Friday and bday Saturday but we could grab drinks Sunday night (9:52pm yesterday)

Her: I only have Saturday unaccounted for right now, Sunday’s a little busy (10:02pm)

Her: How was yesterday’s [late night TV taping]? (10:07pm)

Me: Amazing! Xx appeared and the Yy performed (10:08pm)

Me: Cool - the birthday is the afternoon so we could go to [event] later in the evening [link to event] (10:09pm)

Girl stayed over at mine after first date so this would be date 2. Haven’t heard back after 24hrs. Advice?
Thomas Jackson · 2019-04-27 08:53:00 · #3827
Post date Q.

Went to drinks Thursday, felt like decent chemistry. Kiss closed, but didnt push it. Told her i usually wakeup at 5am to workout so she was joking i would turn into a pumpkin if I stayed out too late.

Next day around lunch i text "That was fun, and didnt even turn into a pumpkin"

Response 30 mins later - "Yes! and glad to hear it smileyface"

Probably over analyzing but that seemed ambiguous to me. Girl is a solid 7 and seemed cool so would like to bang her. Was just going to ask to hangout again and get a firm answer either way, but any advice is appreciated.
Remington · 2019-04-27 23:03:00 · #3828
^

Like you said, you're overanalyzing it. Her response was positive so move forward.

A simple response such as "do it again?" will put the ball in her court. That response will dictate her true interest in you.

I'm willing to bet that response will be a yes considering you kiss closed. Women are fickle but if you at least kissed her, odds are in your favor.
ksbms · 2019-04-28 02:37:00 · #3829
(04-20-2019 05:46 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  
(03-29-2019 08:01 AM)ksbms Wrote:  
(03-26-2019 09:14 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  When She Texts You "We'll See"
Good strategy
https://www.girlschase.com/content/tacti...u-well-see

The guide is decent, it covers the absolute basics and the underlying psychological dynamics going on there. I can't fault it for its defensive strategy. Good for a beginner but if you want to bang 8+ girls, you'll need a significant step up from that.

Thanks,
Do you have anything to share with us please ? I like your strategy you are one of few people here who still believes in conversion and not quick nexting at the first sign of trouble

I believe to date the best text-game advice is by Krauser. Look up his blog for a good taster, and if you want to dive "balls-deep", check out his Daygame Mastery and/or Daygame Infinite (the latter is more micro-focused on texting).
ksbms · 2019-04-28 03:24:00 · #3830
(04-27-2019 11:03 PM)Remington Wrote:  ^

Like you said, you're overanalyzing it. Her response was positive so move forward.

A simple response such as "do it again?" will put the ball in her court. That response will dictate her true interest in you.

I'm willing to bet that response will be a yes considering you kiss closed. Women are fickle but if you at least kissed her, odds are in your favor.

I think it's not a bad proposition but it can be improved upon - texting "do it again?" is a bit too vague - what she may think about "it" may not be his "it". Let's not forget she's just 19, you can't expect from a girl her age to proactively lead towards sex, that's not her nature - unless super horny (or a slut or derailed). Also, it is too much of a frame release - she may become too finicky in her decisions (or lack thereof). What if she'd proposed going for ice-cream lunch time? Hard to close the deal in such a scenario.

He should be at all times in the driver's seat and keep the lead, instead of loosening it so much. Remington, I understand what you're trying to do - getting her involved in "we are both in these together" and share the responsibility of where we're going is a good strategy but perhaps not at that stage yet.

What I would do, is to interpret her smiley face as a big encouragement but not press that much forward just a night after for a date no. 2 - no need to be a predictably horny man, which may suggest to her he's sex-starved. Afer the night, the romantic bubble pierced and she replied enthusiastically, we shouldn't undervalue what it truly means - the words aren't as important, semantics matter less than the fact of reply itself - that's the most important thing here - she's very keen.

Rather, I'd just keep for a little bit the conversation going, depending how strong attraction was - for a day, with 3-5 messages before requesting date no. 2. Will she clear up her schedule for Saturday, given the date was on Thursday? Unless strong attraction suggests she wants more ASAP, more likely date no. 2 will come after the weekend. If the OP wants a date ASAP though, in that case, throwing a ball "do it again?" wouldn't help, risking a significant slow down).

Instead, if no time pressure, i'd keep making a world of me and her, create a "paradise" for us two, our own vocabulary, inside humour, raise above the hum-drum of purely logistic texting. Channel the light of positivity at all times. Every word, emoji, picture, message needs to be crafted for the purpose. Less but better is... better. Bear in mind the fact you're much older (even though she may not know it) and think and expect from people more "adult" behaviour, whereas she's just 19 years old who probably (statistically speaking) doesn't really know what she wants. For example:

The King of all and Lord of the light: That was fun, and didnt even turn into a pumpkin

(It's a good one, I like it - non-needy, no questions, short, re-statement of attraction, a little bit of inside humour, check-in to see what she does. Bravo).

Sexy and pretty girl: Yes! and glad to hear it smileyface

(30 minutes in, there's NO ambiguity there at all - it is very respectable and enthusiastic. What do you expect she'd text: can I come over right now to suck your cock? It's a good girl's game, spot on. Don't overlook the fact she added an exclamation point. Smiley face is expression of her mood regarding how she feels about you. Her message is encouragement to press forward, Saturday she may scream your name, carefully judge the timestamps of her replies from now on, the sooner the better, but remember - you're much older, you get much less leeway to project horniness than a teenage boy). Don't be over-eager, otherwise you can burn an excellent lead. I was there, too, before, in on case an 18yo virgin, me approaching 30, all going well, kissing, then lost my cool (or rather, wanted to close the deal too soon), and never seen her again. It's a tough balancing act but there you go.

The King of all and Lord of the light: what are you wearing today?

(On the face of it, it's a strange one. Do you really care? Probably not but that's beside the point, that's not the goal of this message. Every message is for the purpose of gathering information, giving you feedback where you stand with a girl so you undertake the best possible decision you can make.

In this case, it is subtly covertly sexual and mildly judgemental. Her reply may tell you if the likelihood of sweet love making is near. Best response: her picture showing what she's wearing (it may take some time to get a reply like that - she probably will make a few adjustments to look her best and that's great - she's investing in your liking her). Middle of the road: text description regarding her accouterments. Bad: asking why do you want to know it. If you get the first, press forward, the second, keep nudging towards the date, but weekend unlikely, the last one - pull back and easy on the leash to try re-build momentum.

Disclaimer:I know next to nothing about your interaction and what went on, so can't really make a suggestion, what's above is quite generic in my workbook. Hence, don't take it literally and implement what will work best with the aforementioned suggestions).
Remington · 2019-04-28 19:03:00 · #3831
(04-28-2019 03:24 AM)ksbms Wrote:  
(04-27-2019 11:03 PM)Remington Wrote:  ^

Like you said, you're overanalyzing it. Her response was positive so move forward.

A simple response such as "do it again?" will put the ball in her court. That response will dictate her true interest in you.

I'm willing to bet that response will be a yes considering you kiss closed. Women are fickle but if you at least kissed her, odds are in your favor.

I think it's not a bad proposition but it can be improved upon - texting "do it again?" is a bit too vague - what she may think about "it" may not be his "it". Let's not forget she's just 19, you can't expect from a girl her age to proactively lead towards sex, that's not her nature - unless super horny (or a slut or derailed). Also, it is too much of a frame release - she may become too finicky in her decisions (or lack thereof). What if she'd proposed going for ice-cream lunch time? Hard to close the deal in such a scenario.

He should be at all times in the driver's seat and keep the lead, instead of loosening it so much. Remington, I understand what you're trying to do - getting her involved in "we are both in these together" and share the responsibility of where we're going is a good strategy but perhaps not at that stage yet.

That's fair and I like your breakdown.

I don't fuck and play games with women. If I think a first date went well, I leave it up to her. Reason being is that I don't like wasting my time.

If she says no, great. Don't need to think if whether this woman still wants to hang again.

If yes, great. I'll take her out again if I want.

Having options is nice, however, my time is extremely valuable. I hate wasting it on women who don't have any more interest in dating me.
No More Mr. Soy Boy · 2019-04-30 13:54:00 · #3832
So lets say I wrote something like this:

"What's your calender like this week then? Lets share a bottle of blabla"

And the girl responds like this:

"Train at the gym and work a lot"
"What about you?"
"Hehe, I'm on a diet. It is my cheat day today"
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