FUCK !! I did it again !!

ANOTHER cute girl shows up at my shop, she's super friendly, around 19. We're talking about school choices and then a few other things.

My gut was telling me to pull my phone out and have her number put in. I'm at the register....I freeze up and hesitate.

She says..."-pause-.....so I gotta go, thanks, see you later"

THAT my friend is the "window" you go in for the kill.

FML.

I was walking to my second class of the day and this really cute girl with dark hair and long black socks crossed paths with me. I read that it is good to let them notice your presence before jumping in so I walked shoulder to shoulder her with her for a couple seconds. I slowed down and she flipped her hair so I opened with

Me: I like your socks
Her: ha thanks
Me: yea so how is your first day going?
Her: Is it THAT obvious that its my first day here!?
Me: Yeah. No not really its everyone first day
Her:haha. Well I'm done with all of my classes now. I am kind of lost right now though, Im looking for such and such hall for tomorrow.
Me:I think I just had a class from that hall. Its either that or thats where my next class is.
Her: you dont know where you're at either
Me:I just transferred lol lets look at that map

And blah blah blah I got her name she asked for mine and then I had her put her number in.


I hadn't done a single day game approach in forever so I just wanted to get my feet wet and actually do one instead of thinking about it. Glad I did it and have some momentum now! My goal is to do two approaches to tomorrow!

(08-18-2014 07:01 PM)simondice Wrote:  Gio, do you screen these girls?

(08-18-2014 11:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I only screen for physical attractiveness.

I was wrong. I just got back to approaching on a university campus and I realized that in that environment, I do screen..

I screen for physical attractiveness #1.

But, I also screen for approachability

If I see a 9 walking with her friends and an 8 walking by herself, I will approach the 8 because she is more approachable for me.

I screen for compatibility

If I see two girls of equal looks, I will approach the one who looks more like my type.

I also screen for sex appeal

If I see two girls of equal looks, I will approach the one who looks sexier and sluttier.

When I said that I did not screen. I was describing my summer routine of just approaching in the streets, stores, train, malls, etc. In those types of environments, I screen less because there are less targets. On a university campus, there are so many attractive girls that I must screen in order to increase my chances of success.

*****

A few recent approaches..

I was at the store, I saw a cute latina/italian girl with a dragon tatoo on her back.

I walked right over..

me: cool dragon
her: thanks

I detected an accent.

me: are you from brasil
her: yes
me: i could tell by your accent
her: oh
me: i lived in rio for 6 months, falo un poco (portugese)
her: ah
me: tudo bem gorota? (portugese)

We spoke in portuguese for a minute. I barely understood what she said.

her: ive been her for 6 months, i love it
me: do you wanna get a drink sometime, i can show you around town
her: i have a girlfriend

Next!

---

I was at the beach running with my cousin. A beautiful white girl with a great body walk along side of us..

me: you have great shoulders, do you do yoga?
her: no just running out here

I detected an accent.

me: where are you from?
her: france
me: alleh le blue, i used to love zidane
her: you dont love him anymore
me: haha no i still do. what are you doing in san francisco?
her: im an au pair
me; cool how long have yu been here?
her: 9 months

We chatted for a minute.

me: nice chatting with yu have a good run.
her: thanks you too
me: do you wanna go out for a drink or something sometime?
her; no thanks

Next!

---

I was walking through a gas station..

I see a hot, athletic blond wearing yoga pants..

She is getting into her car..

me: hey pretty lady

She ignored me and got into her car.

I felt a little disrespected so I knocked on her window.

me: roll down your window

She drove off almost running over my foot.

She stopped at red light just across the street. I crossed the street and approached her car again. The light turned green and she drove off.

That was embarrassing!

Next!

(08-26-2014 02:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  She is getting into her car..

me: hey pretty lady

She ignored me and got into her car.

I felt a little disrespected so I knocked on her window.

me: roll down your window

She drove off almost running over my foot.

She stopped at red light just across the street. I crossed the street and approached her car again. The light turned green and she drove off.

That was embarrassing!

Next!

Gio, you can't do shit like that man. Bitches these days are obsessed with "sexual assault" and "stalking" and all that garbage, especially a white bitch like that in San Fran. If she decided to call the cops on you because you were "stalking" her or "making her uncomfortable" all of a sudden you're dealing with some stupid cops and your day is ruined, at the very least. Not even close to being worth the risk. Who cares if the bitch disrespected you -- just let her go. You have many others.

Better safe than sorry. You're playing a numbers game and it's never worth it to take any risks for any given girl. Also, you never want to do anything that draws too much attention to the fact that you're a 38 year old guy hitting on 18 year old girls -- many fools and white knights would think it's "creepy" and some would go as far as to try to fuck with you in some way -- people can be surprisingly nasty, especially manginas and white-knights. Always keep it low-key and under the radar like you've been doing.

(08-26-2014 02:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I was walking through a gas station..

I see a hot, athletic blond wearing yoga pants..

She is getting into her car..

me: hey pretty lady

She ignored me and got into her car.

I felt a little disrespected so I knocked on her window.

me: roll down your window

She drove off almost running over my foot.

She stopped at red light just across the street. I crossed the street and approached her car again. The light turned green and she drove off.

That was embarrassing!

Next!

I love this story. In those situations I've reacted similarly (overreacted/reacted emotionally) but I'm glad you realized that it was a mistake on your part. Her reaction is a little over the top, but your reaction only escalated it with no possible positive outcome.

In those types of situations, I just laugh at them and how ridiculous the situation is.

You never know, maybe she was already approached twice today and a guy got aggressive with her. Maybe she is a complete bitch. Doesn't matter, really, but those are definitely the ones to laugh off and use as fuel to the next approach.

(08-26-2014 03:05 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(08-26-2014 02:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  She is getting into her car..

me: hey pretty lady

She ignored me and got into her car.

I felt a little disrespected so I knocked on her window.

me: roll down your window

She drove off almost running over my foot.

She stopped at red light just across the street. I crossed the street and approached her car again. The light turned green and she drove off.

That was embarrassing!

Next!

Gio, you can't do shit like that man. Bitches these days are obsessed with "sexual assault" and "stalking" and all that garbage, especially a white bitch like that in San Fran. If she decided to call the cops on you because you were "stalking" her or "making her uncomfortable" all of a sudden you're dealing with some stupid cops and your day is ruined, at the very least. Not even close to being worth the risk. Who cares if the bitch disrespected you -- just let her go. You have many others.

Better safe than sorry. You're playing a numbers game and it's never worth it to take any risks for any given girl. Also, you never want to do anything that draws too much attention to the fact that you're a 38 year old guy hitting on 18 year old girls -- many fools and white knights would think it's "creepy" and some would go as far as to try to fuck with you in some way -- people can be surprisingly nasty, especially manginas and white-knights. Always keep it low-key and under the radar like you've been doing.

I have some similar thoughts to LOZ... yet it is interesting to see how far a guy may chose to push these kinds of interactions, and we each come to our own judgements based on experiences and risk tolerances and even regarding how we may be feeling that day or the environment regarding what would be an acceptable limit.

I get the sense that if you knowingly engage based on experience and forethought, then you are in a much better situation than if you let your emotions (or alcohol or drugs) get to you and then you traverse far outside your comfort zone.

It is good to read such an account from Gio, though because it gets me to think about how far and when I may be willing to push that far. I think once in a while could be o.k., but it would probably NOT be a good ongoing practice because like LOZ said, one miscalculation and your whole day is screwed up.. and possibly longer with other issues in getting involved in the court system.. or some other fallout bullshit.

(08-26-2014 03:05 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Gio, you can't do shit like that man.

You're right.

(08-26-2014 03:05 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Also, you never want to do anything that draws too much attention to the fact that you're a 38 year old guy hitting on 18 year old girls

Jeez, I am working on a little guide on this exact topic.

I'm going to go public with my experiences.

I'm sure I will attract some hatred. I wish I could avoid this but I know its inevitable.

I do not break any laws, so, I don't worry too much

(08-26-2014 05:01 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  how far a guy may chose to push these kinds of interactions

I like to push them to the legal limit, but, I will am very careful.

Thanks for your concern guys.

*****

Ironically, later that day, I had a similar experience..

There was a car accident and the lady involved did not move her car to the side of the road. Traffic started backing up. People were honking their horns. I walked over there and started yelling at the lady to move her car to the side of the road.

She tried to ignore me so I literally walked out to the accident scene and explained to her that her selfishness was causing a traffic jam. She tried to plead with me. I literally started yelling at her -- "You're selfish", "its not all about you lady", "you are causing all these people to be late, move your fucking car", etc.

The people watching agreed with me, some clapped.

She got scared and said "please leave me alone, you are harassing me".

I said "you are harassing all of these people who are now stuck in traffic because you refuse to move your car 10 feet"

I yelled at her some more before I left.

It actually felt good to do that. I didn't break any laws.

I'm not really worried about police action. I know lots of cops, lawyers, and judges in my community.

Sometimes, rude people need to be told that they are rude.

P.S. I did all of this with my shirt off!

I saw a girl sitting at a table by herself so I sat down and took my laptop out of my bag. I sat there and didn't acknowledge her for like a minute then I opened with.

Me: Hows it going?
Her: Good.
Me: ....
Me: Hey I'm having trouble connecting to the wifi, do you know how to do that?

She was like, yeah, and then she took the cpu and went to work. This went on for like a minute or two where we were talking about it.

Anyways, after that I asked her how her classes were going. She was really nervous. She said she dropped out of high school after two years and was admitted here for a zoology. I said 'Oh you must be one of them smert peoples huh' which made her smile and she finally started giving me eye contact/helping out with our conversation.

I would say we were connecting, but then her cousin sat down and cockblocked me . He kept pressuring her to walk with him but she kept telling him she was ok and that she had a class in a few minutes anyway and they could just talk later; he stayed until she had to go.
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TL;DR: I got cockblocked by her cousin.

I probably could have just spoken up and asked for it while he was there so some of it is my fault.
--------------------------------

Well, it is all your fault isn't it? I saw a hot 9 college cashier in a coffee shop the other day and didn't ask due to long lines even though I got the sparkly eyes. Have regretted it for a week. Will go back to get the digits though.

Hmmm, been a while since I posted here. Yesterday's approach went well after a flake and a series of rejections.

Saw her sunbathing and then get up to leave. I go over and stop her. She stops so I know that's a good sign. I detect a slight accent and say that she's Russian, which she was, but she also studied in England and her accent can change on a whim at times, which I teased her about. We walk for a while and the convo goes good. I get her number (which she actually offered me first), but I probably should have gone for an instant date right there and then, I bet I could have persuaded her. Will keep in mind for next time.

If there's one lesson to take away from this approach it's this: make statements, don't ask questions.

I made a lot of statements and asked very few, slight questions. She seemed amazed that I "knew" so much (which is telling me that even more accurate cold reading is something I should integrate into my game). Statements add value, questions take it. Of course the game gurus tell you this but experience is the best teacher and I came to recognize this when a French girl I approached last week remarked at how many questions I was asking.

Almost any question you have can be phrased as a statement. For example, instead of asking a girl what she does, you can say "I bet you do something geeky." Said that yesterday and she loved it.

So overall that's the biggest lesson I took. Statements, statements, statements. The only questions you should be asking are ones that necessarily follow in a conversation or qualifying questions where you screen to make sure the girl is up to your standards.

Just sent her a text regarding what accent she was using. If she doesn't respond I'll just call her like I didn't even notice. I do need to follow up a bit more on my phone game.

Today i went out to my Junior College to look for targets. I start by opening this 5 holding a retro backpack

Me; hey where did you get that backback from

Her; oh i got it from x thrift strore

Me; yea i just noticed it, im really into that style and im looking for a new backpack.

Her; well here is the name of the backpack ( moves the backpack closer so i can see the brand)

Me; cool thanks

NEXT

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I am making my way towards the library I see this ugly ass girl. I open her just to practice, then eject shortly after.

As im walking I see this cute-ish about a 6 girl laying down on a blanket i go open

Me; excuse me do you know where the library is?

Her: yea its that large building over there.

Me; oh ok thank you

Her; no thank you

Her friend walks up so i feel intrusive so i eject

NEXT
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I use the library then decide to head towards my car I see this 6 blond girl with a teal backpack.

Me; Thats a really cool backpack

Her: yea thanks teal is my favorite color

Me; it matches your outfit to

Her: ha ha thanks

We come to a fork in the road and she splits off saying bye, chill

NEXT
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I continue to walk toward some tables and I spot a cute black chick about a 7, she is sitting down with a white mac laptop. As I get closer I open.

Me: Is that a good laptop

Her; yea its pretty good.

Me: where did you get it from

Her; I got it from my high school

Me; did you go to a high school around here

Her: i went to high school in Maine

From there it was easy directing the conversation. We end up talking for an hour. I find out she is a freshmen who just moved out here like a two weeks ago.

The whole time she is engaged asking me questions and genuinely seems interested. After an hour I walk her to the bus stop since my car is the same way. We hug I grab her number and I tell her I'll hit her up later.

The only thing is that she dosent drink or smoke, but she does do hooka.

Overall it was a good day at the office.

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(08-25-2014 12:23 PM)kaotic Wrote:  FUCK !! I did it again !!

ANOTHER cute girl shows up at my shop, she's super friendly, around 19. We're talking about school choices and then a few other things.

My gut was telling me to pull my phone out and have her number put in. I'm at the register....I freeze up and hesitate.

She says..."-pause-.....so I gotta go, thanks, see you later"

THAT my friend is the "window" you go in for the kill.

FML.

I just did the same thing!

There is a girl who goes to my gym that I had talked to a few months ago. Just saw her again today, and talked to her a bit, but could not bring myself to ask for her number. I have really bad social anxiety, so i'm worried I appeared too anxious. She probably thinks i'm "creepy" now.

(08-29-2014 10:07 PM)BigBoyPants Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 12:23 PM)kaotic Wrote:  FUCK !! I did it again !!

ANOTHER cute girl shows up at my shop, she's super friendly, around 19. We're talking about school choices and then a few other things.

My gut was telling me to pull my phone out and have her number put in. I'm at the register....I freeze up and hesitate.

She says..."-pause-.....so I gotta go, thanks, see you later"

THAT my friend is the "window" you go in for the kill.

FML.

I just did the same thing!

There is a girl who goes to my gym that I had talked to a few months ago. Just saw her again today, and talked to her a bit, but could not bring myself to ask for her number. I have really bad social anxiety, so i'm worried I appeared too anxious. She probably thinks i'm "creepy" now.

Hey a wise man once told me... " your never as good as they say you are, but your never as bad as they say you are"

the point is, you probably weren't as bad as you thought you were. Shake it off.

And next time when you see her have it in the back of your mind that your going to casually ask her out.

keep approaching budda!

"Move-In Week" in the dorms is pretty spectacular!

This is the week when all the barely legal, freshman girls move into the dorms.

They are all scrambling around with boxes, bags, and suitcases.

I worked out, put on a tank top and drove to campus.

Cuties were everywhere! I parked my car and immediately saw a cute, white girl wearing workout shorts and a little sports bra, hot little teenage body!

She walking towards me..

me: how was your run?
her: oh it was great
me: where did you go?
her: just thru downtown
me: nice

She wasn't really interested in talking.. She basically walked away..

me: take care
her: bye

Next!

---

5 minutes later, a cute latina is walking towards me. Her shirt says "Banton" or something similiar.

She walks passed me, I turn and think about what I can say to her.. I think for a moment.. Then, I blurt out..

me: excuse me

She turns slightly and I walk towards her..

me: is that Banton in Montana
her: huh?
me: your shirt?
her: oh I don't know, im not sure where I got this
me: oh ok, my mom lives in that town, yur not from there?
her: no hehe

She sort of just kept walking.

Next!

---

5 minutes later, I see a beautiful asian girl in line at the market, yoga pants, long hair, thin but toned body, she looked half white

We made eye contact. We held it for a moment. She looked away.

I stopped and moved closer to the glass window. She looked and than looked away again.

I waited. I thought about going inside the store but I didn't. I hesitated. A few minutes passed.

I was still waiting outside the store for her. I felt weird about waiting for her like that.

I should have just gone inside and opened her. Hesitation cost me!

I ejected myself!

Next!

---

I called it a day.

Not a great day in terms of my approaches but I felt good overall because I got a chance to warm up and calibrate my vibe a little.

**********

Day 2 @ Move-In Week

I worked out, put on my tank top, parked my car and saw a cute asian walking with a little box of food. Yoga pants and a tight little body, long hair, pretty face..

I walked past her and opened her over my shoulder..

me: whats for lunch?
her: oh sandwiches
me: from where?
her: the fish mart
me: oh wow that is my secret spot
her: haha yup
me: no one knows about that place
her: i know
me: do you go to college here
her: no i go to school in la
me: ucla
her: no
me: usc
no:
me: loyola maramount
her: no
me; pepperdine
her: no
me: northridge
her: no

Blah, blah, blah..

We had a nice chat but she wasn't interested.

Next!

***

A few minutes later, I see a cute, thin, latina sitting on a bench all by herself. I get out my phone and have a "fake phone call" with myself.

As I am talking to myself on the phone, I sit down next to her without ever looking at her..

me: okay that sounds good.. whatever she wants to do is fine with me.. honestly, she is the only one that i trust over there..those guys are all idiots.. she is quiet but she knows exactly how everything works.. yes, yes, i know.. that makes sense but she is really the smartest person in that group.. me and her dont talk that much but we totally respect each other and i told her that i trust her and i support her 100%, she is really amazing

(I purposely do this "pro female" fake phone call because I feel it captures girls' attention and gives them the impression that I am a likeable guy)

After a few minutes, I end my fake call and open her about her food..

me: that looks good
her: its ok
me: chipotle is so popular, i need to try it
her: ya its always busy
me: do you go to cal state?
her: yup
me: undergrad?
her: ya
me: I'm almost done with graduate school
her: oh really, i need to prepare for the grad school exam
me: honestly, its not that hard, once you see the practice test you will se that its not too bad
her: i heard they changed the test and made it easier
me: honestly, it was easy before they changed it and its even easier now.
her: really, grad school scares me
me: dont be scared, its often easier than undergrad
her: this is good to hear

We have a nice chat.

me: wanna talk again sometime?
her: oh thats okay

Next!

***

5 minutes later, I see two 9's, two very sexy young blond girls wearing short shorts and low cut blouses exposing their flat, toned stomachs, maybe 18 or 19, one was wearing knee high socks with pink stripes, they looked straight out of a barely legal porn movie!

I followed them into a clothing store and found them in the shoe section.

I pretended to look at men's shoes as I casually made my way in their direction. When I got close to them, they were speaking another language..

me: what language is that?
her: german
me: oh deuachland
her: ya haha
me: congratulations the world cup was awesome
her: yes that was awesome
me: are you girls exchange students
her: no we are on vacation
me: wow welcome to san francisco
her: thanks
me: how long are you in town for
her: another week

Blah, blah, blah..

They were very friendly, sweet, and sexy.

After a few minutes of conversation, I went for it..

me: do you wanna get a beer sometime, I can show you around town
her: oh no thank you, we are leaving soon

Next!

***

5 minutes later, I see a hot asian in a skin tight white suit, cute face and smoking body

She was walking up ahead of me so I sped up and got alongside of her..

me: i love your white suit
her: huh?
me: your white suit, thats really cool
her: oh thank you
me: do you have an accent?
her: im from china
me: oh "nee how"
her: haha "nee how"
me: how long have you been here?
her: one month
me: wow its like a new world right?
her: yes it amazing
me: its a little cold thought right?
her: yes a little but i like it
me: is it hot in china right now
her: yes hot and humid
me: what city are you from?
her: cheng zou

Blah, blah, blah..

She stopped and chatted with me, she was smiling and asking me questions..

me: do you have a phone number or email, wanna get coffee some time?
her: oh hehe no thank you

Next!

***

I went into a bathroom and looked in the mirror..

I didn't like what I saw. I was wearing surf shorts and a tank top with tennis shoes.. It didn't look right.. It just didn't look like the right look for me as a 38 year old man on a college campus.

I anticipated that this might be an issue and I had a change of clothes in my car.

I changed into some nice fitted khakis and a patterned shirt with the sleeves rolled up. I looked and felt much better.

The tank top wasn't really working the way I had hoped. Even though my body is in good shape, girls were not really comfortable with the "older guy in a tank top".

---

With my new classier and more attractive look, I set out to find more young, pretty girls..

Quickly, I could tell that my new outfit was better, girls were more comfortable looking at me and making eye contact.

A saw hot black girl with an amazing body. She had a little collar around her neck which turned me on because I am into "50 shades of grey" and all that stuff .

I walked alongside her and her friend..

me: i love your collar, most people don't have enough swag to pull that off
her: haha thank you
me: how are you guys liking san francisco so far
her: its awesome
me: not too cold for you
her: no i love it
me: good, the natural air conditioning
her: yup
me: are you guys roommates?
her: ya
me: how do they match you up, by major?
her: well, sometimes, but we are on the rainbow floor

I immediately assumed that they are lesbians.

me: oh but you guys are not a couple, you're just roommates?
her: haha ya she is a lesbian and i am pan sexual
me: pan sexual?
her: yes, i don't see age or gender.
me: thats awesome, whats your name?
her: kayley
me: nice to meet you kayley, im gio
her: nice meeting you
me: what are you guys up to?
her: we are headed to the store, do you know how to get there?
me: ya its right there
her: oh thanks hope to see you around
me: do you have a phone number
her: ya sure

I texted her 45 minutes later: (she replied right away)

me: hey kaylay, nice meeting you, you look great today, have a good weekend - Gio

her: nice meeting you as well mr gio!

me: did i spell your name right?

her: you got it

I'm going to text her tonight to see if she wants to have a drink or a smoke.

I wouldn't mind a little "50 shades of grey" action with her.

I ended up banging this girl on our first date!

**********

Day 3 @ "Move-In Week"

I went to a different school.

The dorms were packed with people.

As I walked onto campus a hot latina with a beautiful face and a nice body was walking towards me. I hesitated a little before finally blurting out..

"I like your hair"

She didn't respond. She had earphones in. Plus, I waited way too long to say speak.

I should have smiled, made eye contact, and used my hands to engage her.

Next!

---

5 minutes later I see a cute little asian, petitie and adorable, her sweatpants say "Harrill Middle School".. She is walking right towards me..

me: wheres harrill?
her: oh its in santa clara
me: thats right i went there once for a soccer tournament, its a nice part of town
her: ya its ok
me: is that where you are from ?
her: ya
me: i like the weather over there
her: its warm
me: ya i like it warm
her: really
me: what will you study?
her: psychology
me: i love psychology, life is all in the mind
her: ya its interesting

Blah, blah, blah.. We had a nice chat..

I went for her number..

me: nice talking to you, wanna exchange numbers
her: ya sure

I texted her about 2 hours later.

She responded right away.

---

5 minutes later, I see a stunning light skinned black girl in yoga pants, she had a beautiful face and the body of a goddess.

She walked into a cafe and I followed her in. I got behind her in line but I didn't feel right about it. I was not going to to order any food so I didn't like the position I was in. I literally did not have my wallet so ordering food was not possible.

Without her noticing me, I left the cafe and waited for her outside. 10 minutes later she come out and heads towards a parking garage.

I start a "fake phone call" and time my steps so that we arrive at the escalator at the same time.

Once we are both in the escalator, I end my "fake phone call", which was loud enough for her to overhear and I open her..

me: are you a volleyball player?
her: haha funny that you ask that, most people think I'm a basketball player
me: really? my 2nd guess would have been track
her: ya I get also sometimes but I used to play volleyball
me: where?
her: at my junior college
me: you don't play anymore?
her: no
me: why not?
her: i want to focus on other things

Being that we are both athletes, we had a great chat about the life on an athlete.

As we entered the parking garage, I said..

me: hey lets get coffee sometime
her: oh im flattered but I have a boyfriend sorry

Fuck, she was beautiful!

Next!

---

5 minutes later, I see the hot latina from my 1st approach..

She is walking right towards me again..

I used the exact same line again:

me: hey i love your hair
her: excuse me?
me: your hair, those curls are amazing
her: oh haha thank you
me: are you from around here?
her: no I just moved here from LA
me: oh awesome welcoe how do you like it

We chatted for a minute but I could tell that she wasn't interested.

She was eager to walk away.

Next!

---

I see a cute little white girl, petite and toned with a pretty face. She has a "Mickey Mouse" clip in her hair..

I walk up from behind her and say..

me: hey mickey mouse
her: haha
me: oh wait, that minnie mouse, his girlfriend
her: ha ya
me: how is life in the dorms
her: oh its okay, this is my 3rd year
me: oh wow, i hope you have your own room
her: oh yes i do

We walked and talked for a minute. She was sweet but her friends were walking behind us and they kept calling out to her..

I felt uncomfortable and ejected.

Next!

********

School started.

I went to a large university.

I started in the food court..

I immediately see a tall, thin, white girl, pretty face and feminine features.. She is holding a green smoothie..

I walk slightly passed her at an angle and as I am walking past her, I say:

me: that green smoothie looks good
her: its really good
me: whats in it
her; lets see kale, pineapple, spinach, and hemp milk
me: sounds interesting, i do make those sometimes, ill have to try the pineapple
her: ya it really sweetens it
me: i smoke hemp but ive never had hemp milk
her: all those milks are the same to me
me: have you ever tried the acai here?
her: no
me: i thought you were brazilian when i first noticed you
her: really, im not
me: what are you?
her: russian and german
me: oh
her: well im have to run, bye

I made a mistake!

I got too personal, too early in the conversation!

The transition from indirect opener to personal question was not smooth enough.

We were talking about pineapples and than all of the sudden I am talking about when I "first noticed" her.

This was a "red flag" for her.

Next!

---

* I have recently added a new approach style.

I now often will walk literally passed a girl instead of walking along side of her like I would in the past.

As I walk passed her, or more specifically, once I am a step or so passed her, I will than make an Indirect comment about something she is holding or wearing.

The fact that I am walking passed her puts her mind as ease as it appears that I am not approaching her but rather just passing by.

My comment is often said softly as if to appear like I don't care if she responds or not. (this has the effect of making her feel MORE comfortable in responding)

Once, she responds, I continue walking passed her to carry on the illusion that I am not approaching her. I speak to her over my shoulder from a few feet ahead of her. I make it seem like I am in a bit of a rush.

This dynamic of timing and positioning can make it seem/feel like the girl is the one pursuing me, which is the exact opposite of what is happening. Obviously, I am pursuing her.

This is a much better system for me than walking alongside a girl. Walking alongside can be too direct and confrontational. This new style is less invasive (threatening). Less chance of "scaring the cat".

I am obviously using Indirect type openers when I do this.

I am really happy with this little evolution in my style. It's working great. *

---


3 minutes later, I see a beautiful white girl in a summer dress that exposed her sexy, toned stomach, very sexy girl with long brown hair and clean radiant skin..

I turn and follow her to a crosswalk. She crosses the street and I take an angle that will put me about 10 feet ahead of her on the other side. I pretend that I don't notice her. I make a 'fake phone call", I watch out for oncoming cars, I do everything in my power to make her believe that I have not noticed her..

Once on the other side of the street, I loudly end my "fake phone call" put my phone into my laptop bag. She is walking right behind me, as I look up from putting away my phone, I pretend to notice her for the very first time..

me: i love your dress
her: thank you
me: i was just thinking to myself about how not many girls dress well at this school, but you have changed my mind
her: haha ya girls here dont wear dresses too much

The timing and positioning of my approach was perfect. She never suspected that I had been following her for 2 blocks.

me: how is school going?
her: pretty good

We walked and talked. She was very pleasant.

We arrived at the parking lot.

me: hey um, do you wanna grab a coffee or something sometime?
her: im married

Next!

---

5 minutes later, a beautiful light skinned black girl smiles at me and says 'hi"..

I approached her last year on campus and she recognized me. Sometimes, they reject my initial approach but when they see me around campus again, they realize that I am actually a better option than many of the other guys around town.

Dressing well and being well groomed really does a lot to encourage this.

I say "hi" back to her..

her: hey how have you been?
me: great how bout you?
her: good thanks
me: senior year?
her: yup last one hopefully
me: no rush take your time and enjoy it
her: i will nice seeing you

She was walking with friends. I didn't want to stop and engage her. That would have felt a little needy if I did that. If she is interested in me, she can stop and engage me.

I'll see her again and feel out the situation.

Again, being well dressed and well groomed really helps these girls to consider me as a potential lover.

---

5 minutes later, I see ahot latina, tall, long brown hair, hard body, great ass and skin..

I turn and walk past her. As I am passing her, I say..

me: what brand is your backback?

I keep walking so that I am a few steo ahead of her and looking at her over my shoulder..

her: oh its from guatemala
me: oh ok, i must have seen it when i was in costa rica or something, are you from guatemala?
her: well, im half guatemalan but i was born here
me: you were down there visiting family?
her: yes
me: how was it?

Blah, blah, blah.. We walked and talked. It went okay.

me: hey do you wanna exchange numbers
her: how old are you?
me: 30 how bout you?
her: 18
me: oh I though you were older
her: really

She wasn't interested.

Next!

---

5 minutes later, I see a cute little blond in yoga pants. She is wearing Boston Red Sox shirt. I walk past her and make a "fake phone call' to allow her to hear my voice and observe my vibe. After a minute or two, I hang up and open her from a few steps ahead..

me: the red sox!
her: oh im not a red sox fan i just got the shirt as a gift
me: your not from boston?
her: no haha
me: where are you from?
her: oakland
me: oh ok, do you live over here now?
her: yup
me: how do you like it?
her: oh well, blah, blah, blah.................

She went on for about 5 minutes which was fine by me. I just listened and took mental notes.

The conversation went really well.

Eventually we got to a fork in the road and I went for her number.

me: hey nice taking to you, lets talk again sometime
her: ya sure, you'd be a good guy to talk to about that stuff.

I got her number.

She is 18.

---

5 minutes later, I see a a cute and sexy little latina in a nice skirt..

I walk past her and open her as I am walking by..

me: i love that dakine backpack
her: oh thanks
me: that is a surf brand, do you surf?
her; no i cant even swim
me: what!

We walk and talk about her lack of swimming ability. I encourage her to learn.

The chat goes well. She is 18.

me: hey lets go out for coffee or something sometime
her: oh thanks but i have a boyfriend

Next!

---

3 minutes later, I see a girl that I approached 2 years ago at the mall. She was 18 at the time and beautiful. We have chatted a few times since then but I have never gotten her out.

She looked great. I made eye contact with her and made a funny face. She realized it was me and smiled back.

Continuing with my new attitude and style. I smiled but walked passed her without saying anything. Of course, this made her curious and she called out to me..

her: hey what are you doing her?
me: im taking a class here now, when did you start here?
her: i just started
me: your a junior
her: ya

I just smiled and kept walking.

She called me later that night and we talked for an hour.

She is hot and sweet.

21 years old. She said she wants to have a drink with me.

Again, the reason she is interested in me is:

A) She has seen me in a tank top and she knows I am in shape (I have gone into her work after the gym)
B) I was dressed and groomed well
C) I was not needy when I saw her

*****

* I went to my car and changed clothes. I wanted to try something new.

I put on basketball shorts and tennis shoes. That's it. No shirt.

I have been working hard on my body and I wanted to use it as 'bait'.

I grabbed a water bottle and actually just held a shirt in my hand.

I walked around the student housing looking for cuties. I pretended like I just came from the basketball court, soccer field or gym.

*****

I saw a sexy white girl wearing a tight dress, awesome body!

I walked passed her and said:

me: I love that sweater skirt
her: oh thanks ive never heard it called that before
me: what do you call it?
her: oh just a dress
me: its cool, sort of unique
her: ha thanks
me: how was class today?
her: pretty good but i need to find the financial office
me: its right here

I helped her find her way and than I asked for her number.

me: hey let me ask you something else
her: sure
me: wanna give me your number, i wanna take you out for a drink or something sometime
her: ya im down

She took my number and texted me right away. I texted her back and we had a little text exchange later that night.

Getting a girls number with my shirt off was a lot of fun!

I'm going to go shirtless whenever it is sunny.

*********


Day 2 -- University Campus -- Fall 2014

I went to a different university.

After 10 minutes of walking around and trying to get my vibe and body language right, I see a sexy little white girl wearing tight, pink pants, blond, cute face.. She is walking right towards me..

me: oh wow i love your pants
her: thank you
me: those are cool
her: (smile)
me: where are you from?
her: oklahoma
me: oh wow how long have you been here?
her: about a month
me: welcome to the bay area
her: thanks
me: how are you liking it so far?
her: i love it

Blah, blah, blah.. We had a nice little chat.

We said our goodbyes and I pretended to walk away.. After one step I turned and said..

me: hey savannah
her: ya
me: do you wanna talk again sometime
her: im only 18

I laughed and took a step back to pretend like I was surprised and disappointed. (blood was rushing to my penis)

me: oh my gosh really? i thought you were older
her: im just a baby

I tried.

Next!

---

10 minutes later, I see a beautiful white girl, a 9, little jogging shorts, a tight workout top and an amazing body, beautiful skin and face...

I time my steps so that we get to the crosswalk at the same time.. She looks at me and I don't hesitate...

me: are you a soccer player?
her: haha no
me: what do you play?
her: oh ha
me: just life right? that is the greatest game of all

She now turned and looked at me.

her: yes
me: how was class?
her: it was okay
me: what do you study?
her: marketing

She was giving me one word answers but she was smiling and giving me good eye contact. She stepped closer to me at one point and closed the distance between us. We walked and talked for 2-3 blocks. She asked me a few questions.

We discussed marketing. I said goodbye and pretended to walk away, then, after taking one step turned and said:

me: cassandra
her: yes
me: can i call you sometime, maybe take you out for a drink
her: i don't think my boyfriend would approve

Next!

Beautiful girls can be so charming, even when they reject you.

---

5 minutes later, I see another pretty young white girl wearing yoga pants. blond, nice ass.. Walking straight at me..

me: i like your scarf
her: thank you

I looked at the dorm building and than looked back at her to pretend like I just realized something.

me: do you live in the dorms?
her: ya
me: i used to live in these dorms, it was fun (not true)
her: ya its ok im getting used to it
me: are you from around here?
her: no im from san diego
me: oh i just got back from la jolla
her: really?

We chatted for a minute but I didn't think she was interested so I just allowed it to end and said goodbye.

In the past, I would have asked for her number. I would have pushed the interaction as far as I could. This year, I am much less eager. If the girl doesn't show any signs of attraction towards me, I will likely not ask for her number.

I only approached 3 girls today, last year, that would have been a warm up.

I am now much more selective with my approaches, my standards have gone up.

I am not going direct. I like this casual indirect style. Very non threatening. In the past, I liked to go direct just for the thrill of it. It was exciting and adrenaline producing. Now, I don't need the thrill of direct approaches, I only want hotter and sexier girls.

*********

A few approaches this week..

I see a cute, athletic light skinned black girl sitting on a bench.. She is talking to another girl.. I slow down and wait for the other girl to walk away.. As she is walking away, my target says..

"that is a great story with all that sex and everything"

At that moment, I walk past the bench.. I laugh, smile, and say..

me: what story is that?
her: haha gilgamesh
me: gilgamesh has lots of sex?
her: ya you didnt know?
me: no, ive heard about gilgamesh but i never read it
her: tons of sex
me: i thought you were talking about 50 shades of gray
her: what?

We had a great discussion about sex, psychology, and culture.

Getting her number was easy..

me: nice talking to you, lets do it again sometime
her: sure

---

5 minutes later, I saw a sexy, young asian/white girl with nice toned legs..

I walk along side of her, accelerate past her and just as I'm passing her, I say..

me: I like your "Vans" back pack
her: oh haha thanks
me; ive never seen one like that
her: ya its a limited edition with maxware
me: oh cool can i buy that off you
her: haha no sorry
me: i just met on of the van dorans
her: wait what?
me: the van dorans, the vans
her: what do you mean?
me: the vans is short for the van dorans, you didn't know that
her: what

I told her a little story about how the Van Doran family started the company known as "Vans".

Then, I asked her if she wanted to hang out sometime.

She said no.

Next!

---

5 minutes later, I see a cute, sexy, young , latina wearing a low cut blouse..

I time my walk so that we enter the walking path at the exact same time.. She is looking down at the ground as she walks.. I open immedietely..

me: are you sad or something?
her: haha no just relaxing
me: you remind me of star wars
her: why?
me: its like when the jedi says "i am just gathering my strength"
her: oh what haha
me: you know about star wars right?
her: yes of course
me: are you new around here?
her:ya

We walk and talk. She actually went to a high school right next to mine.

When we get to the library plaza, I go for the number..

me: whats your number, wanna get coffee sometime?
her: sorry i have a boyfriend

Next!

---

Then, I go to my car to change. I am experimenting with something fun this year. I walk around campus with my shirt off and pretend like I just finished working out or playing ball.

I carry a water bottle and a tank top in my hand.

I quickly see a smoking hot little white girl, very sexy with long brown hair, clear, clean skin and a pretty face..

I am ahead of her so I slow down a bit to let her catch up. When she gets close, I turn around and pretend to look at something off in the distance.. I quickly open her..

me: i love your black lace

She was wearing a sexy, see thru black top and short shorts.

her: thank you
me: that is very sharp and sexy, it reminds me of the famous singer stevie nicks
her: really?
me: ya she had the greatest collection of black lace clothes in the world
her: haha
me: have yu ever heard of fleetwood mac
her: ya
me: they have some great songs like "gypsy" and "rhiannon"
her: oh ya i think ive heard rhiannon
me: that singer wore cool clothes like this
her: i will look her up
me: where are you from?
her: the valley
me: wow how long you been out here?
her: 2 weeks
me: your a freshman?
her: yes

She stopped and chatted for a few minutes, very sweet and pleasant young lady. Beautiful too!

me: lets get a coffee on campus sometime
her: oh no thanks

Next!

---

Guys who know me know that I used to always stress "making a connection" with a girl. Then, I got away from that and started doing more aggressive, direct approaches. Well, now, I am back to MAKING A CONNECTION! Finding similarities and topics that we can discuss. Building off of those topics. I like things like food and music because they are emotional, exciting, passionate and fun.

Great stuff, Gio. You said it: food music art travel - anything that gets a positive emotional reaction from them.

Chatted up 2 different girls today

One very briefly.. commented on how she wasn't very wet after a heavy rainfall - 7.5 short asian

The 2nd we chatted before we got on the bus, held a convo for a good 10 minutes, got her name. It started to rain and she had an umbrella so I grabbed her waist and hopped under it with her. She seemed really interested and was sharing a lot about herself but I rarely approach and the convo ended like this:

Me: Well I'm Connor
Her: I'm blah blah
Me: I've gotta go this way but it was nice meeting you... (going to ask for number)
Her: Yeah you too!! Have a nice afternoon. (She starts to turn away right after saying this)

Now I realize I should have just said hey wait i feel like we have good chemistry or something like that, let me get your number.. But since I rarely approach I wasn't quick enough. Anyways had a good time talking with her and feel more motivation to approach as my teenage hormones are bursting at the seams and I'm getting more and more sexually deprived especially with the no-fap challenge lol.

Im at the gym today hitting my back. So im on the bent over row machine in the middle of a pyramid set. I have my earphones in and im in the zone when this cute asian girl ( a hard 7) walks up to me and asks when im going to be done with the machine.

I tell her that im in the middle of my set but if she wants to work in with me that she is more than welcome to. She accepts and we start to workout together.

As her workout comes to a close, she starts to re-rack some of the weight. I open her officially.

Me; do you always match when you come to the gym? ( she was wearing pink jordens and a pink shirt)

Her; oh haha no it was a complete accident

Me; sure it was, I guess i cant talk to much because of my outfit ( i was wearing orange shoes and a orange shirt)

Her; lol

She kind of lingered a moment before starting to walk a way

Me; When is your track meet?

Her; what?

(I repeat the question)

Her; oh haha i don't run track anymore i used to in highschool

Me: yea you look like a track athlete, why don't you run for your college now?

Her; oh well i stoped a while ago and the Junior College team isent that good

Me; yea i hear you, i used to take classes at the JC (Junior College) and its a good school but its so boring after class

Her; yea im a freshmen and i just basically just go to class then go home and watch netflix

Me; ive been there i just started watching the show Orange is the New Black

At this point she gets real excited

Her: OMG I love that show! I stay up till like 2 in the morning watching that show

Me:yea i love that show, ( i crack a joke about the show and she laughs)

Me; well hey we should get some coffee sometime, i dont have my phone on me but take my number

She pulls out her phone and i she puts my info in, and i have her text me right there so i "know who it is"

As the convo is coming to an end she says

Her; yea we should def have coffee and workout sometime

Me; im down

she then shakes my hand and we part ways.

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As i reflect on that approach, im starting to wounder if girls sometimes on purpose will place themselves in a position to be approached.

Like in the gym it is VERY rare that anyone approaches anybody, let alone a female approaching a male. It just got me thinking of other potential times in the day were girls may be positioning themselves to be approached hoping that the guy will engage them on some level.

(08-27-2014 12:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(08-26-2014 03:05 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Gio, you can't do shit like that man.

You're right.

(08-26-2014 03:05 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Also, you never want to do anything that draws too much attention to the fact that you're a 38 year old guy hitting on 18 year old girls

Jeez, I am working on a little guide on this exact topic.

I'm going to go public with my experiences.

I'm sure I will attract some hatred. I wish I could avoid this but I know its inevitable.

I do not break any laws, so, I don't worry too much

(08-26-2014 05:01 PM)JayJuanGee Wrote:  how far a guy may chose to push these kinds of interactions

I like to push them to the legal limit, but, I will am very careful.

Thanks for your concern guys.

*****

Ironically, later that day, I had a similar experience..

There was a car accident and the lady involved did not move her car to the side of the road. Traffic started backing up. People were honking their horns. I walked over there and started yelling at the lady to move her car to the side of the road.

She tried to ignore me so I literally walked out to the accident scene and explained to her that her selfishness was causing a traffic jam. She tried to plead with me. I literally started yelling at her -- "You're selfish", "its not all about you lady", "you are causing all these people to be late, move your fucking car", etc.

The people watching agreed with me, some clapped.

She got scared and said "please leave me alone, you are harassing me".

I said "you are harassing all of these people who are now stuck in traffic because you refuse to move your car 10 feet"

I yelled at her some more before I left.

It actually felt good to do that. I didn't break any laws.

I'm not really worried about police action. I know lots of cops, lawyers, and judges in my community.

Sometimes, rude people need to be told that they are rude.

P.S. I did all of this with my shirt off!

Gio is my fucking hero.

Just go to show how women will always play the victim card even if they are the fucking criminal

Important game lesson from today: aside from improving yourself in all things, getting over limiting beliefs is the most important thing.

So I'm out from work and I see this really beautiful girl walking. She was good-looking enough that I actually was thinking she had a boyfriend and I was going to pussy out from approaching! Then I see, miraculously, that she changes direction and walks down my direction. Usually I don't do street approaches but I went balls to the wall and just said fuck it, because I noticed that she was looking around a lot and usually if a girl does this she's open to a chat. She was initially a bit taken aback and resistant, but I continued to go balls to the wall, told her I found her attractive and wanted to say hi, etc. She was very open after that.

Instant date. Took her out for drinks and she wants to go out tomorrow, but we will need to see what happens, never get too excited.

The only thing it shows is that you need to get over your limiting beliefs. As I said, I'm usually shaky on street approaches to start with, but aside from this being a limiting belief in my head, it also shows that you never know what you're going to get. I got rejected two times earlier in the day. Third time was the charm, and with the hottest girl too, go figure.

(09-03-2014 07:11 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Important game lesson from today: aside from improving yourself in all things, getting over limiting beliefs is the most important thing.

So I'm out from work and I see this really beautiful girl walking. She was good-looking enough that I actually was thinking she had a boyfriend and I was going to pussy out from approaching! Then I see, miraculously, that she changes direction and walks down my direction. Usually I don't do street approaches but I went balls to the wall and just said fuck it, because I noticed that she was looking around a lot and usually if a girl does this she's open to a chat. She was initially a bit taken aback and resistant, but I continued to go balls to the wall, told her I found her attractive and wanted to say hi, etc. She was very open after that.

Instant date. Took her out for drinks and she wants to go out tomorrow, but we will need to see what happens, never get too excited.

The only thing it shows is that you need to get over your limiting beliefs. As I said, I'm usually shaky on street approaches to start with, but aside from this being a limiting belief in my head, it also shows that you never know what you're going to get. I got rejected two times earlier in the day. Third time was the charm, and with the hottest girl too, go figure.

What was her story, more or less? A traveler or was she trying to figure out where the pet store was? In other words, was she gaming you?

That's kind of a joke about her gaming you, but I am serious about the question regarding her story, was she just between things at the moment and in what city or area of the country?

(09-03-2014 03:21 AM)Sketness Wrote:  As i reflect on that approach, im starting to wounder if girls sometimes on purpose will place themselves in a position to be approached.

Like in the gym it is VERY rare that anyone approaches anybody, let alone a female approaching a male. It just got me thinking of other potential times in the day were girls may be positioning themselves to be approached hoping that the guy will engage them on some level.

I don't mean to burst your bubble or anything, but it's completely normal to get approached like this by people in the gym. I either ask or get asked if/when someone's finished with equipment all the damn time. Unfortunately the weights floor of my gym is 90% male...

(09-03-2014 03:21 AM)Sketness Wrote:  As i reflect on that approach, im starting to wounder if girls sometimes on purpose will place themselves in a position to be approached.

(09-03-2014 07:29 AM)Lothario Wrote:  Yes there is a high probability that this chic placed herself close to you

I agree.

Women will often position themselves to be noticed. They will try to make themselves "approachable".

I have read about this and talked to girls about it.

If they like you, they will find an excise to be close to you.

This doesn't mean that every girl within 10 feet of you likes you.

This type of thing usually only happens to good looking or high status guys. I'm pretty sure Sketness qualifies as "good looking".

Well..tonight is probably the better night to go out in Dallas. Change of weather, rain, and much cooler temperatures opposed to the scorching Texas heat = more people are going to be excited about "getting ridic."

I'm however staying in tonight to rest my body after going out with Samo yesterday in what were...unfavorable conditions:

The cool thing about Dallas during the Summer is the influx of college kids, grad students, and out of towners visiting, which increases the amount of eye candy. College campuses definitely increase in quantity/quality as the semester starts, but the "big city" dies down a bit in a bad way...especially if it's still hotter than balls still like last night.

I had a chance to get acquainted with Samo who has met many other cool RVFers in NYC though he recently relocated to Dallas for a better job opportunity. (Sequence of events are approximations.)

10PM - Meet up with Samo at Kung Fu Salon. Ratios are decent, but nothing too approachable. We learn more about each other's story briefly before switching venues next door to the quieter Prime Bar.

10:20PM - We switch to Prime Bar and situate ourselves in patio area with some shitty aspiring blue grass acoustics performer in the background. I'm sure you can find douchebag artists like this all over the place like any Jake's hamburgers location in DFW, Gingerman Uptown, Fred's Cafe in FW, or Capital Bar during the shitty cold months in Tarrant County as well. Long story for another time....

After some more conversing, Samo decides to open a set of three elegant gals decked out in heels. They're polite SMU gals as we find out the two we talked to were single while the one in the middle had a bf. Some good convos and witty banter..only to end when trying to infiltrate their personal space some more. The convos ended with myself making one last witty remark about their bottle of wine...we leave...next

Note: Upon using the restroom, there's a stall sign indicating all bottles of wine at Prime Bar were 50% off. Go figure.

Around 11:00 PM - We could've stuck around in Uptown, which is always a feasible option. As a Dallas newbie though, I decide to drive Samo around Henderson Street, the south portion of Lower Greenville, and then to Three Sheets/Sunset Lounge. I could've shown him more "go to" areas around Dallas, but we wanted to get some approaches in. Before that latter part, we stop by HG Supply Co. on Lower Greenville.

11:25PM - HG Supply Company and Truckyard are the outdoorsy bars on Lower Greenville that close at midnight. It's quite strange as every bar in the US closes at around 2 AM...but the bars with patios on Lower Greenville shutdown at midnight because it's a neighborhood zoned as "purely residential." The regular bars without a patio however can stay open till 2AM in the area.

We walk in and glimpse of my eye see a gal I got a # from a few weeks back. I pretend not to see her. In restroom line, I see a gal from past once again as we catch up. She looks better..and obviously lost weight..next thing you know..some big Hispanic guy comes barging out of restroom and gets acquainted with me. Not sure if he was "with" her specifically or part of group...whatever the case..they leave as I get an invite to Deep Ellum though I decline.

Downstairs at HG Supply, Samo and I notices a good looking three set. We say to ourselves we'll make the approach once getting a first drink. After ordering, three chicks leave but we spot another table of three gals having dinner. Samo wonders if they're Persian so I reply "good question" & break the silence by asking gals about their ethnicity. We find out they're from Spain as I get to practice verb conjugating with them. Convos are good for about 10 mins so we decide to go upstairs to the patio area.

Spanish gals decide to use downstairs restroom as it's less crowded..and they seemed genuinely interested with us...not to mention they were pretty & exotic..but on second floor I don't look back and open another three set of gals whom were recent grads of Texas A&M. My line was about the "closing time" of the venue as we collectively complained about the zoning policy.

After some long convos..I start wondering if we should've waited on the Spanish girls while walking upstairs with them..but here we were conversing anyways. Samo gets a number to girl on his side (though he was interested in middle gal), while my long-winded convo with gal on left ended with her not wanting to give hers out. Girl in middle and one on my side were roomies & gave off the friendly but protective vibe....it was my bad for not slightly escalating with the touch/release move on shoulder and hips.

Note to Self: - With these midnight closings on Greenville...always have a place picked out to transition gals afterwards & invite gals there. Whether it was the Spanish ones or gals on the upstairs patio...should've invited them to the next venue....

12:10AM - We stop at Sunset Lounge, which was dead. A bunch of mixed groups...that could've lead to a potential fight situation if we continued mingling with social circles there. Talk to a gal from Rockwall briefly (these are usually DTF hoes) though she decided to leave with her friends. Samo & I walk to the next place being....

12:30AM - The first thing spotted at Three Sheets was some guy being dragged out in a headlock for being too aggressive with some chicks and other dudes. I try to take advantage of the situation by directly asking the gals what the hey was goin on. They answer as I end up being nicely confronted by some other guy as we shoot the shit. To my left is Samo talking to 2-3 Puerto Rican gals...arguably the most beautiful ones of the night. Some contact info was exchanged for social purposes though Samo reported about the chicks being in relationships..perhaps engaged...not sure..but at least we didn't get dragged out of the venue in headlocks.

1:00AM - We end up back at Kung Fu/BBC only to see both places are already sausage fests. BBC was full of the SMU Greek life crowd whereas Kung Fu was just pure crap. Last minute approach involved me escalating with push/pull on a 2 set only for the chubby third party (but not fat) friend breaking things up mentioning the "boyfriend" line. Samo did a good job of entertaining her..but it's as if she sped around the corner like JaDavean Clowney to sack my efforts.

Overall...Samo & I developed some good chemistry for our first night out. I was tempted to call him "Jason" all night primarily because he kept mentioning RVF member Jasond...didn't help that I've spoken to Jasond a few times over PM as well. Tonight would've probably been better for going out, but there is no doubt in my mind things happen for a reason as it will only improve from here on out.

A good observation I wanted to point out would be the "season change." Many on here have alluded to NYC girls going all out once the temperature goes from Winter to a firm Spring...from Spring to Summer...but let me also add any abnormal weather/climate change even if "colder" will give girls an excuse to dress fashionably for those conditions. Barring hazardous conditions, it's best to take advantage of these situations by getting yourself out there at these specific moments.