haha, that's pretty funny because the same thing happened to me today as well. Approached 3 girls, got blown out by all because guys were hitting on them all day.

Maybe guys are tired of going to clubs.

Me three, it's brutal out there today, it must be something in the air.

Edit: maybe it's finals week and guys who are stressed want sex , but women are stressed and they don't want to?

my experience with college/grad school girls is that they wanna be banged out as hard as possible during Finals. YMMV.

(07-28-2014 09:04 PM)horn Wrote:  my experience with college/grad school girls is that they wanna be banged out as hard as possible during Finals. YMMV.

Usually it's like this for me, but I don't understand why it was a rejection-filled day

(07-28-2014 08:31 PM)unbowed Wrote:  Spot a ukrainian going to whole foods, got stuck behind a fat group in a bottleneck. The lard finally parts and ukrainian girl is being direct opened by a high voiced hipster. She leaves the set as he kinos. 


 I say fuck it and try my luck. Not 2 seconds into 'excuse me' and she says 'you're the 7th guy to want to tell me something today. Is there a club you guys are in?' 

daygame better not become nightgame.

Fuck your luck. This is not luck. I've read your other posts and I recognize you've got game. Those rep points under your name validate this.

You gotta be adaptable. I would tune/tease the girl about that with my opener.

"Who are you?" is one of my favourites. I directly challenge these girls, the hot ones followed by an honest, communicating look. Your voice has to be deep, akin to a figure of authority (think policeman, breaking rapport ala RSD, if you're familiar).

"Are you a player or something, teach me your tricks"

Nonetheless, on her shit test of 'are you guys in a club or something', I would be straight forward.

"Look at yourself, can you blame me?" - this is make or break and I know whether to waste my time on her or not.

You could just troll her and say something like "Oh, did they not tell you?" and just look her deadpan in the eyes and leave. I might as well create some confusion in her mind before I leave.

(07-29-2014 12:51 PM)Noir Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:31 PM)unbowed Wrote:  Spot a ukrainian going to whole foods, got stuck behind a fat group in a bottleneck. The lard finally parts and ukrainian girl is being direct opened by a high voiced hipster. She leaves the set as he kinos. 


 I say fuck it and try my luck. Not 2 seconds into 'excuse me' and she says 'you're the 7th guy to want to tell me something today. Is there a club you guys are in?' 

daygame better not become nightgame.

Fuck your luck. This is not luck. I've read your other posts and I recognize you've got game. Those rep points under your name validate this.

You gotta be adaptable. I would tune/tease the girl about that with my opener.

"Who are you?" is one of my favourites. I directly challenge these girls, the hot ones followed by an honest, communicating look. Your voice has to be deep, akin to a figure of authority (think policeman, breaking rapport ala RSD, if you're familiar).

"Are you a player or something, teach me your tricks"

Nonetheless, on her shit test of 'are you guys in a club or something', I would be straight forward.

"Look at yourself, can you blame me?" - this is make or break and I know whether to waste my time on her or not.

You could just troll her and say something like "Oh, did they not tell you?" and just look her deadpan in the eyes and leave. I might as well create some confusion in her mind before I leave.

Great points. I need to retain a sense of entitlement. Back to the streets.

Speaking of which, earlier today I approached a feminine looking girl (dress, heels, long hair who kept looking my way). Not 1 minute into conversation she tells me she's a lesbian who's going to meet her "girlfriend".

Ask her who the dominant one is and she says the other girl. I tell her she should switch hit since masculine girls are boring. She says she has to go and asks if I want to walk with her. I stall her out with more conversation but it looks like she's deadset on meeting her "gf" and not flirting. She says maybe she'll "see me around" and introduces herself. I give her a Russian name for the trollz.

Second 'lesbian' I've stopped in two weeks who has IOIed me in some way. Would be fun to crack the code but I'm not going to jump over their hoops. (Both wanted to snatch the frame and get me to follow them and switch to rapport with no attraction established).

Sometimes I wonder if feminists are starting to entertain approaches to see what we're up to, holding the lesbian card until the right moment.

I had my induction for my new job yesterday and managed to make 2 day game approaches and thought I'd write it up as this is a huge step for me.

1st approach - She was a girl also doing an induction but didn't get a chance to chat with her, saw her on her own waiting for the bus and just went up and just talked about the day, it went ok decided not to get the number as i'll see her at work.

2nd approach - This was on the bus, she asked me to close the window and thought this was an almost perfect opportunity so chatted to her made her laugh etc. but this time managed to get a number. My first daygame number so i'm pretty pleased. Well anyway I text her and she doesn't respond after1 round of texting which is annoying. But ill text her again after the weekend and if she doesn't respond then NEXT.

Conclusion i've found that since going through a dryspell/bad logistics etc. i've searched harder for opportunities to approach, as you realise that your not going to even get the opportunity to get laid if you don't try harder. So if you don't try harder there's not even a hope in hell you will get laid which is very emasculating.

Tonight I got off of work pretty late and was headed home. This week I've been challenging myself to approach three girls a day ( not caring if they are old, young, fat or whatever just to get myself in the groove of approaching)

I had not done my three approaches today, so i decided to go to down town and see who I could approach.

The first approach was mediocre ( i ejected to fast) the second approach was sub par

It was the third approach that really enlightened me.

I see these two girls standing outside of the club smoking. One is a 3 on her best day and the other one is a solid 6 with a nice body. So I decide to approach using the ole 'can i get a smoke' line.

As I ask for a smoke, the fat troll snaps back at me that if I even smoke and that I should have broughten my own smokes, as she pulls out her pack to give me one.

I smoothly brush the troll aside and joke that i left mine at home.

The cute 6 is standing there looking at me kind of surprised and perplexed.

I am wearing a polo shirt that shows off my broad shoulders and strong arms.

As we continue talking Twice the 6 touches my shoulder to emphasis a point she is making.

They soon eject but I realized something at that moment.

If a girl touches you for ANY reason... she is interested in you.

It might seem basic but it was at that moment that the principle was validated.

It's amazing how the more your interact with girls that you pick up on the small cues that they will throw at you to get your attention.

(08-01-2014 04:10 PM)unbowed Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 12:51 PM)Noir Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:31 PM)unbowed Wrote:  Spot a ukrainian going to whole foods, got stuck behind a fat group in a bottleneck. The lard finally parts and ukrainian girl is being direct opened by a high voiced hipster. She leaves the set as he kinos. 


 I say fuck it and try my luck. Not 2 seconds into 'excuse me' and she says 'you're the 7th guy to want to tell me something today. Is there a club you guys are in?' 

daygame better not become nightgame.

Fuck your luck. This is not luck. I've read your other posts and I recognize you've got game. Those rep points under your name validate this.

You gotta be adaptable. I would tune/tease the girl about that with my opener.

"Who are you?" is one of my favourites. I directly challenge these girls, the hot ones followed by an honest, communicating look. Your voice has to be deep, akin to a figure of authority (think policeman, breaking rapport ala RSD, if you're familiar).

"Are you a player or something, teach me your tricks"

Nonetheless, on her shit test of 'are you guys in a club or something', I would be straight forward.

"Look at yourself, can you blame me?" - this is make or break and I know whether to waste my time on her or not.

You could just troll her and say something like "Oh, did they not tell you?" and just look her deadpan in the eyes and leave. I might as well create some confusion in her mind before I leave.

Great points. I need to retain a sense of entitlement. Back to the streets.

Speaking of which, earlier today I approached a feminine looking girl (dress, heels, long hair who kept looking my way). Not 1 minute into conversation she tells me she's a lesbian who's going to meet her "girlfriend".

Ask her who the dominant one is and she says the other girl. I tell her she should switch hit since masculine girls are boring. She says she has to go and asks if I want to walk with her. I stall her out with more conversation but it looks like she's deadset on meeting her "gf" and not flirting. She says maybe she'll "see me around" and introduces herself. I give her a Russian name for the trollz.

Second 'lesbian' I've stopped in two weeks who has IOIed me in some way. Would be fun to crack the code but I'm not going to jump over their hoops. (Both wanted to snatch the frame and get me to follow them and switch to rapport with no attraction established).

Sometimes I wonder if feminists are starting to entertain approaches to see what we're up to, holding the lesbian card until the right moment.

Not worth your time. She wanted validation so she initiated hoops...

I don't entertain myself with such negative thoughts, lesbians or not. She is either keen or not; you will implement your own litmus test of finding out if you're wasting time.

Lesbians are the second best wingmen, after alcohol. Take numbers, friendzone them first (important, don't be thirsty but hungry) and use them as a door into more social circles of hot girls.

Same applies for gay guys, they hit on me all the time and I have developed 'gay guy game' in which I troll the gay guy (this is all it takes) and use him as a pivot; the hottest girls are fag hags in my city.

re: general approaches...

Your frame and vibe is important from the get go. You have to challenge them and just consider that they all want you to be that way, hence shit tests to see if you walk the walk as you talk the talk.

What you say is irrelevant, your tonality is more important (this is where the challenge comes from). Go show them who is boss. I can do a breakdown of my approach technique but honestly, it is nothing special. Just don't be a creep and use your body language and non-verbals to your advantage, this is what sets you apart from the guy asking for directions to the guy who can transition into something witty.

Caught a cutie checking me out when I was doing front squats the gym. Later I saw her leaving and tried to time my exit up with hers. I saw her hanging by the door talking to the dude at the front desk and then she walked out at the same time as me so I could tell she wanted me to talk to her. Said "man those squats really got to me," rambled about how I changed up my routine recently, the merits of front squats vs back squats, working out hungover. Talked for 5 mins, got her number.

**

I never mate guard, but I do aggressively squat rack guard. That's what you do when you walk a few feet away from the rack in between sets and see someone walk in the general direction of it

The game has been pushing approaches on me even when I don't want them.

I've been making an excuse to myself that a girl isn't up to my standards to get out of the approach. Every time I've thought this in the past few days, the girl has opened me. That's probably further confirmation that they are beneath me, but it could also be a sign I just need to approach regardless of what I think about the girl.

The other day, I was in the elevator. Girl comes in with a bunch of grocery bags. In my head I'm like "eh I could open her, but she's a little bit chubs for me." As soon as I think this, she mentions something about her having a long day. Bantered for a bit then got off on my floor, didn't bother for the number. I felt like I could have taken her back to her room and banged from the way she was pursuing the conversation.

These chicks have been on the edge of the boner test though. What's a player to do?

2 approaches today.

First one was this girl that was taking a break from her running. I stopped her, told her she looked nice. We played a bit of a guessing game as to where her origins were from after she mentioned an exotic name. Her family is Armenian.

We walked around a bit and talked a lot. I touched her when appropriate and teased her. Yada yada blah blah blah.

As I think things are going well she mentions she has a boyfriend. I was a bit stupid and opted for fagbook instead of a # but I really do need to screen girls more quickly.

Now the second approach was more hilarious.

I see these two girls walking for a while and they turn down my street. I open them both. They both have the same name of Ashley. I immediately tease them by calling them Ashley 1 and Ashley 2. Ashley 1 answers that her name is spelt "Ashlea" I simply tell her that her name is still Ashley 1.

Small talk ensues. Blah blah blah.

I drop some hints of pre-selection and my career when one of them said she wants to do fashion merchandising. I make a comment on her hat and say I could sort of tell. My voice is dominant throughout this entire approach. They're looking for a place. When I see them about to leave I invite them for drinks. They both give me their numbers and I make sure they aren't fake by calling then and there. I joke about it, telling them that I'm in politics and this is how I need to think to insure things.

This approach was textbook game. Slightly arrogant demeanor mixed with being interesting.

I ran into a couple of old friends earlier and we're probably gonna go out for drinks next weekend. I might invite them to that. But...I may need to send a text or two to them to keep it 'warm' before that time. Text and phone game need a bit of work. What to do?

(08-02-2014 04:38 PM)ADarkerNight Wrote:  The game has been pushing approaches on me even when I don't want them.

I've been making an excuse to myself that a girl isn't up to my standards to get out of the approach. Every time I've thought this in the past few days, the girl has opened me. That's probably further confirmation that they are beneath me, but it could also be a sign I just need to approach regardless of what I think about the girl.

The other day, I was in the elevator. Girl comes in with a bunch of grocery bags. In my head I'm like "eh I could open her, but she's a little bit chubs for me." As soon as I think this, she mentions something about her having a long day. Bantered for a bit then got off on my floor, didn't bother for the number. I felt like I could have taken her back to her room and banged from the way she was pursuing the conversation.

These chicks have been on the edge of the boner test though. What's a player to do?

Ha! I was just talking about this yesterday with an old cat.

I told him I got ridiculous standards and that I get laid less because I turn down legit ok girls.

He drops some wisdom and says "If you were to take a plain jane, they'll let you do just about anything. There are four types of girls, the practice girl (no one has to know about her but she passes the boner test), the girl you wouldn't mind being seen with, the girl you make a sex tape and the girl you show to your friends/colleagues to make them jealous) "

(08-02-2014 07:24 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 04:38 PM)ADarkerNight Wrote:  The game has been pushing approaches on me even when I don't want them.

I've been making an excuse to myself that a girl isn't up to my standards to get out of the approach. Every time I've thought this in the past few days, the girl has opened me. That's probably further confirmation that they are beneath me, but it could also be a sign I just need to approach regardless of what I think about the girl.

The other day, I was in the elevator. Girl comes in with a bunch of grocery bags. In my head I'm like "eh I could open her, but she's a little bit chubs for me." As soon as I think this, she mentions something about her having a long day. Bantered for a bit then got off on my floor, didn't bother for the number. I felt like I could have taken her back to her room and banged from the way she was pursuing the conversation.

These chicks have been on the edge of the boner test though. What's a player to do?

Ha! I was just talking about this yesterday with an old cat.

I told him I got ridiculous standards and that I get laid less because I turn down legit ok girls.

He drops some wisdom and says "If you were to take a plain jane, they'll let you do just about anything. There are four types of girls, the practice girl (no one has to know about her but she passes the boner test), the girl you wouldn't mind being seen with, the girl you make a sex tape and the girl you show to your friends/colleagues to make them jealous) "

Maybe I should reconsider my standards. I wouldn't mind throwing it in a few easy ones to get some A-list treatment.

When things get too easy though it becomes less fun for me. I like the challenge. There is probably a way to up the challenge even in these situations where the girl is opening me. Pushing for the bang as fast as possible or something along those lines.

Will look out for these in the future!

(08-02-2014 08:35 PM)ADarkerNight Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 07:24 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 04:38 PM)ADarkerNight Wrote:  The game has been pushing approaches on me even when I don't want them.

I've been making an excuse to myself that a girl isn't up to my standards to get out of the approach. Every time I've thought this in the past few days, the girl has opened me. That's probably further confirmation that they are beneath me, but it could also be a sign I just need to approach regardless of what I think about the girl.

The other day, I was in the elevator. Girl comes in with a bunch of grocery bags. In my head I'm like "eh I could open her, but she's a little bit chubs for me." As soon as I think this, she mentions something about her having a long day. Bantered for a bit then got off on my floor, didn't bother for the number. I felt like I could have taken her back to her room and banged from the way she was pursuing the conversation.

These chicks have been on the edge of the boner test though. What's a player to do?

Ha! I was just talking about this yesterday with an old cat.

I told him I got ridiculous standards and that I get laid less because I turn down legit ok girls.

He drops some wisdom and says "If you were to take a plain jane, they'll let you do just about anything. There are four types of girls, the practice girl (no one has to know about her but she passes the boner test), the girl you wouldn't mind being seen with, the girl you make a sex tape and the girl you show to your friends/colleagues to make them jealous) "

Maybe I should reconsider my standards. I wouldn't mind throwing it in a few easy ones to get some A-list treatment.

When things get too easy though it becomes less fun for me. I like the challenge. There is probably a way to up the challenge even in these situations where the girl is opening me. Pushing for the bang as fast as possible or something along those lines.

Will look out for these in the future!

Variety is the spice of life. Sex begets sex, and chicks definitely know when you're having it and when you aren't. Use the boner test, it will not fail you. In my case, I would say 80% of my game is towards 7+, but I see a 6 that passes the boner test, I will gladly game her. Staying in the rhythm or "Always be fucking".

I was in McDonalds today with some friends and I gamed the cashier, a cute, petite black girl with a very high pitched voice. Since I'm known as the "player" in the group, whenever we're some where and there's a cute girl in our presence, they always dare me to go talk to her. Today wasn't any different, only exception being my target was a cashier and there was a bunch of people in the room and I had to wait on line.

her: can I take your order?
me: sure, um I'll get 2 McChickens, medium fries, and a small cup of sprite.. um (I said 'um' on purpose because I know they usually follow up with 'anything else?')
her: is that all?
me: no, and your mcdigits (props to whoever mentioned this in the thread, this line is gold)
her: what?
me: your phone number (smiling)

She started blushing while looking around the room and said, "that's cute haha sorry but I have a boyfriend" an older woman behind me on line was laughing, but not because of the rejection. She said "at least you tried, she is very cute."

Anyways, I brushed off the rejection by following up with "that sucks, I hope that doesn't mean I won't get my order anymore" and the people who were behind me started laughing. Game is just so damn fun.

(08-02-2014 03:11 AM)Sketness Wrote:  As we continue talking Twice the 6 touches my shoulder to emphasis a point she is making.

They soon eject but I realized something at that moment.

If a girl touches you for ANY reason... she is interested in you.

It might seem basic but it was at that moment that the principle was validated.

My main signal she wants to fuck during a date/pickup is if she is leaning in & touching my leg/knee/thigh with hers. Or her hands. Anywhere under the belt, for sure. More than once is def a IOI to split.

Or starts massaging me anywhere.

Pay the bar tab and bounce.

Went 0 for 3 at the mall today. (2 "I have a bf" and 1 "I'm only 17" haha)

I'm about to download tinder again. So much fucking easier.

(08-02-2014 10:47 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  I was in McDonalds today with some friends and I gamed the cashier, a cute, petite black girl with a very high pitched voice. Since I'm known as the "player" in the group, whenever we're some where and there's a cute girl in our presence, they always dare me to go talk to her. Today wasn't any different, only exception being my target was a cashier and there was a bunch of people in the room and I had to wait on line.

her: can I take your order?
me: sure, um I'll get 2 McChickens, medium fries, and a small cup of sprite.. um (I said 'um' on purpose because I know they usually follow up with 'anything else?')
her: is that all?
me: no, and your mcdigits (props to whoever mentioned this in the thread, this line is gold)
her: what?
me: your phone number (smiling)

She started blushing while looking around the room and said, "that's cute haha sorry but I have a boyfriend" an older woman behind me on line was laughing, but not because of the rejection. She said "at least you tried, she is very cute."

Anyways, I brushed off the rejection by following up with "that sucks, I hope that doesn't mean I won't get my order anymore" and the people who were behind me started laughing. Game is just so damn fun.

That was a solid recovery from the rejection. I feel like I always walk away like a chump after getting rejected.

(08-04-2014 12:57 AM)Teddykgb Wrote:  

(08-02-2014 10:47 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  I was in McDonalds today with some friends and I gamed the cashier, a cute, petite black girl with a very high pitched voice. Since I'm known as the "player" in the group, whenever we're some where and there's a cute girl in our presence, they always dare me to go talk to her. Today wasn't any different, only exception being my target was a cashier and there was a bunch of people in the room and I had to wait on line.

her: can I take your order?
me: sure, um I'll get 2 McChickens, medium fries, and a small cup of sprite.. um (I said 'um' on purpose because I know they usually follow up with 'anything else?')
her: is that all?
me: no, and your mcdigits (props to whoever mentioned this in the thread, this line is gold)
her: what?
me: your phone number (smiling)

She started blushing while looking around the room and said, "that's cute haha sorry but I have a boyfriend" an older woman behind me on line was laughing, but not because of the rejection. She said "at least you tried, she is very cute."

Anyways, I brushed off the rejection by following up with "that sucks, I hope that doesn't mean I won't get my order anymore" and the people who were behind me started laughing. Game is just so damn fun.

That was a solid recovery from the rejection. I feel like I always walk away like a chump after getting rejected.

you shouldn't,

1. its her loss

2. she is saving you time. Thats time you dont have to spend on a bum bitch ( to quote Dante Nero)

3. You get experience from the interaction

All around you win.

(08-04-2014 12:57 AM)Teddykgb Wrote:  That was a solid recovery from the rejection. I feel like I always walk away like a chump after getting rejected.

No need. Just turn your back and go. Rejections are more funny than anything else.

Today I approached this woman that turned out to be from Georgia she told me she was "old enough to be my mother." Note: her tone was not bitchy.

I slyly smirk and say she didn't look like it (she really didn't), and just walk off.

Anyway, I did another approach before that. She's a 22-year-old girl that just got out of college and moved to NYC, so she was asking me a lot of stuff. We probably talked then and there for a half hour or more.

I teased her about how she liked to watch celebrity gossip shows. I said she was going to meet my mother (who also watches them), to watch them together just to annoy the crap out of me (I used this to imply a future sort of relationship, of course, and I thought it worked rather well).

She tells me she wants to do real estate, to which I reply that I'm currently in the process of getting my real estate sales license (I am).

My biggest mistake was that I should have left first, but we did exchange phone numbers. I told her that she should give me her number and I would take her out to some of these places she talked about.

Ultimately this was one of the best approaches I've done, but as I've mentioned elsewhere, text/phone game is a major sticking point for me now that I've pretty much busted through approach anxiety. I've found I'm decently able to attract interest if I'm not brushed off immediately, but I have a bit of trouble retaining that interest.

I guess that's relatively normal to start with. Any pointers on how I should proceed from here and for beginner text/phone game in general? (I actually don't think I'm that bad if I can get a girl on the phone. It's texting that's the biggest issue.)

This is my latest approach. I think it touched on two competing philosophies I have read about:

"Push every Interaction" vs. "It Takes Two to Tango."

The following approach is a "It Takes Two to Tango" approach philosophy:

Approached a solid 8-9 fitness looking girl at magazine section at Barnes and Noble:

Me: Excuse me, is that a good magazine?
Her: I don't know, I just picked it up.
Me: I'm looking for a good woman's magazine for my cousin, she's staying with me from out of town. I may get her this yoga magazine.
Her: If she likes fitness you could also do women's health blah blah.

Me: Do you do yoga?
( on one or two questions when I asked her, she looked at me with a slight amused expression as if gauging why I was interested in her and asking questions . She would pause, then answer )
Her: "I have in the past" She also talked about how Yoga was harder than it looks and I missed amplifying on that.
Me: You look kind of athletic today. Have you been working out?
Her: Yeah, I went to the club. Are you from around here?
Me: yeah, live in __________
Her: Okay, so I went to the club you probably know where it's at blah .
Me: I work out at the club on highway 51.
Her: I used to work there when I first got out of college blah ( as she's rifling through magazines ).
Me: Asked her opinion on working out day vs. night time.
Her: blah blah. She talked for a good minute on this giving a good opinion.

The whole time her vibe was that of semi intrigue yet cautiousness. Her eyes were a little wide as she made eye contact and she had a slight smile. But she kept looking at magazines and going silent after each question I asked her was answered. I had to keep re-engaging with statements or questions to keep her talking.

I was thinking to myself: Okay, I've asked her at least 4 or 5 questions and " it takes two to tango". I'm going to just stand here and let her do her part in this interaction. I'm going to give her a chance to participate in this conversation. It's her turn to ask me something.

Of course, her being a drop dead gorgeous young woman, she did NOT do her part.

Her after 20 seconds of us both browsing magazines: "It was nice talking to you, I've got to go."
Me: Nice talking to you to.

NEXT.

I am thinking the whole "it takes two to tango" mindset doesn't work for 8's and higher unless they have demonstrated their attraction to you. I'm sure this is a bit of a newbie mindset, but to me to just keep asking questions when she's not asking any back and to keep her going is almost, in a way, undignified. It's like I'm thinking " I have self respect, I have approached and been friendly to this woman. I have asked her questions and offered her statements. Conversations are a two way street. Now, it's her turn to give her share to this conversation."

Problem is, while that mindset sounds great, in my experience it does not produce results from hot women. The only ones who will keep talking to me and actually reciprocate with questions to me are 7s and lower.

I am thinking this means I need to throw self respect and 'dignity' to the wind in interactions with 8's and above and just ask questions, talk, make statements (i.e. push the interactions no matter how awkward or forced it starts to feel ) and keep going until they either give me their number or show attraction or just walk away. Because when I have tried to do it the other way, that is, giving these hotties (8's and up) a chance to actually talk back to me, they always walk away.

I don't want to be subjected to a life of banging nothing but 7's and lower.

Robreke check your pm

Man, I haven't been logging all of my approaches here. Honestly, I've been lacking energy and motivation to do any recently. I'm in between jobs and don't go out every day and that's affected this. My uh, significant other has also seen changes in me which has resulted in some additional questioning and cellphone prying. To make matters more complex, I just had a baby who I've been helping take care of; and that shit reduces testosterone. It's true, been researched.

On top of that, gaming women is really not my highest priority as some of you guys know. Despite all this, I have still gamed and I have still pushed myself beyond the limits of any of these feelings.

I won't log every approach anymore but will do the most interesting ones; the last few I did in NYC didn't really ask for a number in any of them maybe due to all the above issues.

Cute black girl (8 body, average face)
I noticed that nice ass from afar so I got closer. I smiled; she reciprocated. I was gonna talk but she got on the phone and crossed the street. I crossed behind her and walked until she was done.
Me: You can't smile at me like that and not say hi
Her: Giggles
Me: So let me guess, you work around here.
Her: blah blah
Me: So I was right; I'm gonna take another guess; you're from Chicago?
Her: How'd you know..[smiles] where you from?
Me: Come on .. you can't have me guess and not guess yourself..
Her: blah blah...
Me: So alright put your number in my phone..
Her: Look at you .."put" the number in .. [giggling]

This interaction went well. I went out with her later but turned out to be a boner killer. I posted in the player's lounge thread what happened.

Two turkish girls on the Long Island Rail Road (one was a 7 another maybe 6.5)
Me: Do you know when the train gets into Penn?
7: XX minutes.
Me: I'm visiting and probably should have checked the sched.
6.5: Haha
Me: Your accent is interesting..let me guess, Serbian [guessed wrong and kept guessing; finally...]
6.5: We're turkish
Me: You guys seem like best friends.
7: blah blah
Me: Tell me more about that [Turkish culture bait I caught on to]
6.5: blah blah blah..
Me: So where you headed today?
7: We're meeting my bf....okay gotta go (smiling) [She left and I talk more with the 6.5]
Me: See the 7 coming back and gets the 6.5..They both leave.

About a minute later, a fairly young asian guy jumps over me and sits in the seat across from me where the girls sat.

He: Were you talking to my gf
Me: I was talking to the girls that were sitting here yeah
He: What were you talking about?
Me: The city [I'm maintaining laser eye contact with the guy]
He: alright [gets up and leaves]

WTF....while I normally don't give a fuck and am prepared for this kind of shit at night, I totally didn't expect it during this time especially since the girls were together. So I was a bit rattled even though I didn't lose my dignity.

Blonde 8 at Penn Station
Her: Hey do you know where the bathroom is
Me: Uhh.. no idea.. umm actually I think it's over there [Cobra you dumb fuck she opened you; she could have asked just anyone]

I'll leave you guys to rip me apart and make suggestions for this one. I banged my head against the wall for this one.

At a restaurant having lunch with a college buddy of mine in Manhattan. Two Aussie milfs chatting about dumb shit. One is a 7, the other a 6.
Me: [Smiling in their direction after a little while] I'm not over hearing your conversation; we were just joking around and I was in a good mood. [I was being honest really]
6: That's okay we were just talking about..blah blah blah..
Me: Let me guess, you're from England [I knew they were Aussie]
7: Aww come on..we're Australian
Me: blah blah I only know a bit about Australia
6: What are those?
Me: Kangaroos
6: [Whips out phone] I want to show you a picture [It's a kangaroo doggystyling another kangaroo]
Me: wow
7: What's your name?
Me: Cobra
7: Oh...you mean like xxxx [which is a word rhyming with my real name that also means banging if you're Australian; They then laugh about how my name is so sexual]

The conversation devolved into me telling them where I'd be at that night but since I was with my boy didn't ask for the number. Yes, stupid but I wasn't thinking about any gaming or whatever. Oh well.

It's interesting. When me and my buddy hang out, almost always some chicks give us attention. He's lebanese and has a dgaf attitude which works well against my refined persona I think.

I still have anxiety, especially when it comes to 7.5 to 8s and above, especially bitchy looking white girls. However, white girls made up about 90% of my approaches so far. BUT, two of them gave me their number as well as 1 mixed girl and 1 black girl. Lot of times I don't ask and I should. Sometimes a man needs to just get out of the house every day.

(08-02-2014 04:38 PM)ADarkerNight Wrote:  These chicks have been on the edge of the boner test though. What's a player to do?

If you are asking this question..

You don't want to fuck them.

So, do everything except fuck them, for the sake of practice.

Approach them, flirt with them, take their number, try to get a blowjob if you like, etc.

Or, if you don't want to do that...

Approach hotter girls!

(08-05-2014 01:45 PM)robreke Wrote:  it does not produce results from hot women.

It hasn't produced results for you but it may produce results for other guys.

I wouldn't worry about which theory is better.

I would just keep approaching with force and power.

Hotter girls require more confidence.

When you display higher levels of confidence, they will respond better.

Keep pushing yourself!