I live in a subdivision with 4 different swimming pools. My routine lately has been to go to a pool around lunchtime; I switch up each day though I've noticed one pool seems to be better than the others for girls. Basically, I look for a girl sunbathing on her own, then open with "so how do you get to come to the pool without any kids?" It always gets a laugh because there's a zillion kids there and most of the adults are moms watching their kids. It's worked great so far; every one I've talked to is either a mom or nanny with kids old enough they don't need close supervision in the pool, or a woman who doesn't have any. A surprising number of people work from home here, and I've been meeting a lot of them.

Yesterday, I swam my laps and then opened a nice looking brunette who was just picking up her stuff. I got a laugh from her, but one of my next questions is always how they get to go to the pool during the day (finding out if she's a SAHM or works from home), and she mentioned she was getting married later in the week. I prolonged the conversation a bit but wasn't picking up any IOIs from her so I ejected and went on with my day.

Today, I opened a nice young looking blonde before swimming my laps. It turned out she's a nanny (which was my guess, I was a little worried she was in high school, she looked that young). We chatted a bit about her college and bullshit, but again, I wasn't picking up any IOIs and there were other targets around.

I put my stuff down near a couple of sunbathing beauties, figuring one of them would be around when I was done swimming. Sure enough, they both were, but I liked the one closer to me more. Definitely a slutty look - tramp stamp, toe ring, all that. I laid on my chair a few minutes and dried off and then noticed the one closer to me looking at her phone so I took the opportunity to swoop in. She opened right up, and the conversation flowed easily, definitely the easiest I've had all week. She's single, works from home, living the single life. Nothing special in my conversation, except that it flowed really easily, she showed me enough interest, and I was finally using a little more teasing and a little more mystery, so that was better. A sample, at the end I was getting her number and forgot her name already.

Me: One thing you need to know, my short term memory is awful. What's your name again
Her: TattooedBabe
Me: For some reason I want to call you Ashley
Her: I could be Ashley
Me: That can be your secret agent name.
Her: No, my secret agent name is Jezebel
Me: Wait, you already have a secret agent name? You're going to get me in trouble.
Her: *giggles*
Me: Should I be scared?

Nothing brightens up your day than chatting up a cute girl. Thank you Approach Thread day gamers for the inspiration.

Somehow I'm just not able to approach at the moment. I'm in a rut, I just feel like a total chode and have no confidence to open. I have every other aspect of game handled but somehow the most basic shit like approaching is causing me problems. I need to snap out of this somehow. Maybe I need my testosterone levels up or some shit. Any ideas?

(07-22-2014 02:38 PM)RockHard Wrote:  Me: One thing you need to know, my short term memory is awful. What's your name again
Her: TattooedBabe
Me: For some reason I want to call you Ashley
Her: I could be Ashley
Me: That can be your secret agent name.
Her: No, my secret agent name is Jezebel
Me: Wait, you already have a secret agent name? You're going to get me in trouble.
Her: *giggles*
Me: Should I be scared?

Nothing brightens up your day than chatting up a cute girl. Thank you Approach Thread day gamers for the inspiration.

Hopefully she's not a feminist

Why simon? They love getting tied up, spanked, deepthroat more than most I find...and will sleep with you like that.

You make a good case. I guess hearing one talk was kind of exhausting, but if you just want to bang them, who cares ?

(07-22-2014 06:19 PM)simondice Wrote:  Hopefully she's not a feminist

That thought did cross my mind. I used to associate that name with just a woman who likes to party & causes trouble, until the website spoiled it!

(07-22-2014 05:15 PM)delonge Wrote:  Somehow I'm just not able to approach at the moment. I'm in a rut, I just feel like a total chode and have no confidence to open. I have every other aspect of game handled but somehow the most basic shit like approaching is causing me problems. I need to snap out of this somehow. Maybe I need my testosterone levels up or some shit. Any ideas?

Maybe T levels, but I went through a slump. You get to where you feel like you should be opening girls but don't really feel like it and the mismatch between obligation and want stresses you out. You could try to make yourself take a break for 30 days, exercise more, and consciously focus on anything other than Game, and see if the urge comes back after a few weeks.

Is there a certain point where you can approach anytime, anywhere, and be alright?

I still have days where I'm confident enough to approach the most beautiful girl in the room, and other days where my mind gives me excuses as to why I shouldn't approach at all.

Trying to figure out if it ties into my workout schedule. I think I feel most confident the days after I lift. But haven't really seriously looked into it.

I just don't understand why I still have that block. I need to feel "it" before I can approach. I haven't numbed myself to the point where I can approach under any and every circumstance.

I did my usual pool approaches today. One OK-looking milf, we chatted for about 10 minutes but I wasn't picking up the vibe so I ejected. She actually seemed a little disappointed. Maybe I could've # closed. She told me she comes to the pool all the time. Went to a different pool and did more laps then re-opened a young college aged nanny I'd seen a couple days earlier. She was laughing and giggly but it was probably nervous/awkward... she declined to give a number. I walked over and got my stuff and another MILF who caught my eye. She'd been surrounded by cockblockers, I mean kids, earlier, but now was on her own reading. I walked up and said "Isn't it nice to get a moment alone?" and she was very friendly. My ramble was better but needs work. We chatted about 10 minutes, but I really, really need to work on building attraction. Turns out she's a yoga instructor and invited me to one of her classes. We'll see. I like to do yoga, she teaches at a studio I go to, so the investment isn't high.

3 approaches (well, 2 + a reopen), I felt like I'd done a good day's work. Went home, did some work, then ran to the store for a couple things for dinner. A girl is yoga pants was trying to load these huge patio chairs into her sedan. I could see this was going nowhere. I parked a couple spots down and opened with "you've got too much chair and not enough car". So we bantered a bit. I was feeling really loose. I didn't expect to close, I just felt like talking to her for a minute, she looks like she's late 20's and has a nice body. But then she says "I don't have far to go, just to the XYZ apartments". I know where that is, it's 3 minutes away. So I let her hang for a minute, giving her a hard time about her impulse purchase, then say "... I'm feeling like being a nice guy..." and offer to drive her stuff over in my SUV. She just lights up like it's her lucky day. So we load up, I drive over there. She asks "how can I make it up to you?" It's too fucking easy... give up the digits, sweetheart! You owe me a drink!

Now this on a larger level is huge. The old me would've been "aww, shucks, it was nothing..." Now that I've been educated, give up the number. I would've gone for the insta-date, but that wasn't in tonight's plan. So I'll take my chance on a flake.

Another Central Park approach. Girl from Tennessee. Blonde hair, blue eyes, nice tits. Just my kind of lady. I walked and talked with her for a while. I went through the usual motions - direct, tested for some compliance as the interaction continued, though I don't think I was flirtatious enough. She was pretty cool and gave me her # even though she said she had a boyfriend and this was "just as a friend," which was a quip I ignored. It's either a test or a flake I think.

Now having this number, how should I respond? Now that approach anxiety has been mostly destroyed (or at least manageable), I need to work on converting my #s into dates.

(07-27-2014 10:14 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Another Central Park approach. Girl from Tennessee. Blonde hair, blue eyes, nice tits. Just my kind of lady. I walked and talked with her for a while. I went through the usual motions - direct, tested for some compliance as the interaction continued, though I don't think I was flirtatious enough. She was pretty cool and gave me her # even though she said she had a boyfriend and this was "just as a friend," which was a quip I ignored. It's either a test or a flake I think.

Now having this number, how should I respond? Now that approach anxiety has been mostly destroyed (or at least manageable), I need to work on converting my #s into dates.

Don't wait too long to text. Tomorrow morning max. Ask if she's up for getting a drink, or if you've got a plan for something social, invite her along.

As for the BF, maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Maybe it's an issue, maybe not. Don't bring it up.

Approached a lizard dancing last night with a casual opener. Asked her name..found out she was from Ghana. Opened her with how are you doing in Ghanaian.

There was some misunderstanding with the club and police came. Didn't get a chance to pursue further.

(07-23-2014 12:35 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Is there a certain point where you can approach anytime, anywhere, and be alright?

Yes.

When the bulk of your insecurities, fears, and neurosis have been defeated.

It took me about 1000 approaches along with a lot of mental reflection and "soul searching".

It feels amazing to not live in fear. It is a very freeing feeling to be able to talk to pretty much any girl at any time.

(07-27-2014 10:14 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Now having this number, how should I respond?

Text her with in 24-36 hours.

"hey (insert girls name), nice meeting you today in the park . What are you doing for happy hour later? Wanna meet up for a drink? I know a great little lounge near your hotel that is a lot of fun. -- Libertas

She is a tourist on vacation so she may be in the mood for some random sex. Try to get her drunk and alone in her hotel room.

"Bait" her to met up with you by suggesting fun things to do and see around NYC.

Is there a certain type of food she wants to try? Suggest a place where you can take her to try it.

Is there something she wants to see or do in NYC, suggest taking her and showing her around.

Keep logistics in mind. You never want to get to far from her hotel.

If she gets drunk and allows you back to her hotel room, you have a good chance.

Stay calm at all times. Enjoy the experience and the process of learning.

(07-27-2014 10:22 AM)RockHard Wrote:  As for the BF, maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Maybe it's an issue, maybe not. Don't bring it up.

Of course not.

(07-27-2014 11:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Is there a certain point where you can approach anytime, anywhere, and be alright?

Yes.

When the bulk of your insecurities, fears, and neurosis have been defeated.

It took me about 1000 approaches along with a lot of mental reflection and "soul searching".

It feels amazing to not live in fear. It is a very freeing feeling to be able to talk to pretty much any girl at any time. [/quote]

It really does feel great. It's like suddenly having a whole universe of pussy opening up to you that you felt completely cut off from before. Incredible feeling.

I think it's going to take a lot less than 1000 for me.

(07-27-2014 11:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Text her with in 24-36 hours.

"hey (insert girls name), nice meeting you today in the park . What are you doing for happy hour later? Wanna meet up for a drink? I know a great little lounge near your hotel that is a lot of fun. -- Libertas

She is a tourist on vacation so she may be in the mood for some random sex. Try to get her drunk and alone in her hotel room.

"Bait" her to met up with you by suggesting fun things to do and see around NYC.

Is there a certain type of food she wants to try? Suggest a place where you can take her to try it.

Is there something she wants to see or do in NYC, suggest taking her and showing her around.

Keep logistics in mind. You never want to get to far from her hotel.

If she gets drunk and allows you back to her hotel room, you have a good chance.

Stay calm at all times. Enjoy the experience and the process of learning.

Actually she's not a tourist. She's working here temporarily and just moved here last month. I can't recall how long she'll be here though. She lives in Washington Heights which is not a neighborhood I go to.

She does like Central Park though, so I'm thinking a meetup around there. I may need to play this on a slower burn (if indeed anything pans out from it) because the logistics involved are really terrible.

Thanks for the suggestion. I really do need to work on my text/phone game.

Just approached a Ukranian 7 by the pool, "where's the nearest Chipotle around here? "

Rambled on about which one was better whether Moe's or that, types of sause and I could see her nibbling to the small piecies of bait but never big bait. I forced the convo a little and when I asked for her number she said She had a boyfriend, but I got the number anyway (I'm not going to call)

When I got up, I saw a Latina beauty just tanning, but I couldn't approach because she was just next to her.

(07-27-2014 11:56 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Yes.

When the bulk of your insecurities, fears, and neurosis have been defeated.

It took me about 1000 approaches along with a lot of mental reflection and "soul searching".

It feels amazing to not live in fear. It is a very freeing feeling to be able to talk to pretty much any girl at any time.

I hope I get there soon. In terms of approaching, it's weird. I can do it...but it takes a few minutes to mentally prepare, and sometimes you just don't have that kind of time.

I was at the mall last night, walking around with my buddy and most of the stores had already started closing -- there was this knockout fixing a mannequin in a window display, she was behind the glass, I was on the other side. I was thinking of banging on the window and asking her something silly like "are you trapped in there? do you need me to break you out?" -- I told myself, let me walk around a little more and when I come back to this store, I'll say something.

So we walk around for a few more minutes and pass the store again, this time she's gone.

I have to remind myself to just ignore all the thoughts in my head that tell me to wait, to take time to think of the perfect line or perfect moment and just do it. Some of my approaches came when I didn't really have anything particularly clever to say and the circumstances weren't great, but I pushed through and made the approach anyway.

There's still that little part of me though that tries to slow time down and rationalize every move and sometimes you just can't wait for the perfect time or the perfect line. You just have to do it.

I would rather I said something stupid to her and maybe got her to laugh and end up with no number or anything at all than to walk around mentally preparing myself and wasting precious time. Time you don't get back.

I want to be more impulsive in my approaches. Just shut my brain off and do it. Less thinking, more action.

Lesson learned.

I am new to game and I can say this week was probably my first after getting in the right frame of mind to start approaching girls...most of my approaches I feel I think I ejected out too soon or did the most talking.
anyway here's the one from today, I found a girl sitting by a bench in a shopping center and I approached here by asking her about a gap store nearby...she was clueless and started asking me where I am from and about my accent etc, which I thought was a really good start first up, I asked her what she's doing here in town etc turns out she was here in houston for the summer as well just like me...and I rambled on for a bit more until reaching a dead end...I think I had the opportunity to ask her for number but I didn't fearing rejection..which I am kicking myself as I should have really made the move on that and found out if its going to work or not.
How do you guys open 2 girls sitting close by you in a park?
anyway my night game I feel I cant really approach good looking girls that much that's what I found..a pretty chick did approach me but I kind of acted nice and didn't really create any mystery and that conversation died...as for now I am trying to put myself in all uneasy situations and see how I ll fare but its still very unnatural to me. I had really nice conversation with a cute girl who was working at a restaurant when she asked me If I have come here before, as she saw me over somewhere...we had a good 5 min funny conversation until she left,,I thought about asking for her number again later on when I was about to leave but I couldn't do it...so that's pretty much it for me in this whole week...any suggestions on how I can improve?
Thanks

Day game v night game. Not sure what's easier, if there is one easier than the other...probably depends on who you are as an individual.

I don't night game approach. Bars and clubs aren't my thing but I assume there's a pro to approaching being that alcohol is flowing and girls go into it knowing they're gonna get approached?

Day game I feel their shields may be up more, but it's more my pace. I'm a bookstore/coffee shop type of guy.

(07-28-2014 12:47 AM)Mister X Wrote:  Day game v night game. Not sure what's easier, if there is one easier than the other...probably depends on who you are as an individual.

I don't night game approach. Bars and clubs aren't my thing but I assume there's a pro to approaching being that alcohol is flowing and girls go into it knowing they're gonna get approached?

Day game I feel their shields may be up more, but it's more my pace. I'm a bookstore/coffee shop type of guy.

You gotta check out my signature for day game. If you got this mentality, then day game might be for you. Remember though, if you're banging already, any game day or night is good cause you're less needy.

(07-28-2014 01:27 AM)simondice Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 12:47 AM)Mister X Wrote:  Day game v night game. Not sure what's easier, if there is one easier than the other...probably depends on who you are as an individual.

I don't night game approach. Bars and clubs aren't my thing but I assume there's a pro to approaching being that alcohol is flowing and girls go into it knowing they're gonna get approached?

Day game I feel their shields may be up more, but it's more my pace. I'm a bookstore/coffee shop type of guy.

You gotta check out my signature for day game. If you got this mentality, then day game might be for you. Remember though, if you're banging already, any game day or night is good cause you're less needy.

I have to check it out. My thing is, although I want to change it -- for the time being, day game is an easier method for me. If I see a girl at a coffee shop sitting by herself, it's low pressure. I have time to game plan. I can take a few moments to think of how to open her, I can walk right up to her then and there or "time" our exits to bump into her. Either way, she's isolated, and it's a slow pace. Night game, the girl is almost always with 3-4 of her friends and/or orbiters, the music is loud, it's fast paced and overall harder (for me) to strike.

On the other hand, I want to be complete. I want to, as I said earlier, be able to approach any chick, anywhere, any time, under any circumstance -- with no mental blocks or AA. So at some point I will have to work on night game.

Unintentional approach at the grocery store. Cashier that is a solid 6.5 that could jump a point if she does herself up.

I walked up to the checkout

Her: Hello, did you find everything okay?
Me: Yeah
Her: Would you like to donate to(some fucking charity), it's only $1?
Me: (jokingly)Who does my dollar benefit and how can I be sure you guys aren't running some sort of charity scam here?
Her: (giggles) No! You're buying school supplies for underprivileged children(holds up a package of markers), it's not a scam.
Me: Okay, I'll help the little fuckers.
Her: (laughing) Oh my god, I can't believe you said that... You're so mean...You really are helping the kids though.
Me: Let's not kid ourselves here, we both know they're just going to use those markers to draw all over their parents walls.
Her: (laughing again) Stop it, you're going to get me in trouble.
Me: I'll make you deal Becca(she had a name tag), Put your number in here (handed her my phone) and I won't get you fired.
Her: Okay. (while she's entering her number she says "wow that's neat" like she's looking at something on the phone. I think she was embarrassed putting her number in my phone at work)

I had no intention of trying to get her number, it just happened. A couple of years ago I would have never even thought to ask.

Was at a salsa night. Saw this cute chick in white robe and princess shoes. Asked her to dance. She recognized me from a dance event two months ago (its a venue where I have a lot of status), but I cant remember her. IOI I suppose.

Danced with her for quite a while, lots of fun. Logistics were hard, she was taking a bunch of Peruvian friends visiting Paris, so no way to instant date her that night. I had to grab her # "we could go dancing another night" she gave me the # but her body was facing away.

Texted her the usual "hey its xxx nice to meet you" in French. She responded in English, funny.

Not sure how to proceed next, maybe "hey u wanna grab a drink for after hour then go dancing?" for thursday night?

3 approaches so far, 3 rejections today (all boy-friend related)
Powerful insights though.

1st girl, white girl 7, was right outside my class after I aced my final.

Talked for a while and she was biting on small baits but not big bait (read Roosh's Day Bang) I asked for digits but she declined me saying she had a boyfriend and she hoped she didn't hurt my feelings. Note there were 6 people around me, just watching and listening, including a couple girls. This would paralyze the normal beta in fear, but I just brushed it off and said "what feelings?" smirked and said good luck in her exam.

2nd were a pair of girls, one 6 and one 7, who were at the club house of a friend's pool. I asked them if they wanted to play pool, they said no. Later I heard the ugly one talk about the hotter one's boyfriend, so I understand.

3rd one was a 7 Peruvian girl chilling by another pool

I opened her with "is there wifii on the pool" and rambled a bit, she dived into personal questions and I asked her what she was doing later. She said just going to the gym and that's it. I told her she should join me for a drink and she said she had a boyfriend. I asked her about her boyfriend and rambled on some, with an even more relaxed, zen energy. She was actually more attracted after she rejected me and kept bullshitting some more until I said I had to get going. She "wait, what's your Instagram?"
And I retorted " Instagram? Who uses that anymore?, the day Mark Zukerberg gives me 6 figure contract, I'll create one" smirked and left, she laughed and was REJECTED.

- Girls with boyfriends can be much nicer and open
- I'm getting better at identifying when a girl wants just attention and when she's actually attracted.
- My rambles actually got better AFTER the rejection. I relaxed more and they were definitely stronger. Assume the sale and talk as if you were already rejected, it'll be a better gaming.
- Rejection does not scare me nor does it have an effect on me.
- You need tough skin for rejections, a beta-bitch boy would have never approached another girl after a day like this. I'm still going strong tonight.

Simon

Spot a ukrainian going to whole foods, got stuck behind a fat group in a bottleneck. The lard finally parts and ukrainian girl is being direct opened by a high voiced hipster. She leaves the set as he kinos. 


 I say fuck it and try my luck. Not 2 seconds into 'excuse me' and she says 'you're the 7th guy to want to tell me something today. Is there a club you guys are in?' 

daygame better not become nightgame.

A lot of people are watching guys like Vitaly Mack on girls, maybe that's why?