At least you manned up and had the balls to approach her even if it didn't work out.

Plus if you see her again you can give her shit for standing you up.

As usual critiques are welcome.
Been kind of rusty in my approach game back in the U.S. so I have some free time and hit the mall.
1st approach
Went into Macys to get measurements for a friends event and notice a cashier as i am walking to the elevators with a nice ass. I wait a while until she's done with her costumer and ask her to apply for a Macy's card (knew I'd get rejected).
Me: You aren't from this disgusting city are you
Her: lol, yes I am why?
Me: Oh no reason you just look like you are
Her: lol, and where are you from
Me: X, but i'm here for school.
We chit chat back and fourth i ask her about her tattoo. Just as i'm building up to close, old lady comes behind me so I eject to bathroom. As i come back out lady is gone but she is with her co worker and starring at me hard. I walk out the store and wait for co-worker to walk away. Go back
Me: Hey I had question
Her: sure what's up
Me: What's your phone number?
Her: *Instant smile and writes it down, then grabs it back and writes down her name stating " you probably have a lot of X's in your phone*
Me: I'll text you just make sure your phone works.

2nd approach.
I am feeling pretty good at this point and as I am leaving the mall notice a hispanic or brown looking chick at juice stand. I wave, she gives me a lack luster wave back and i approach.
Me: hey what flavor of juice is this
Her: Oh this is strawberry and..( I cut her off)
Me: Oh i don't really care about the juice I just thought you was cute and wanted to say hey.
Her: smiles and says hey ( but all the while she is playing with her phone and trying to give dis interested look, i power through)
Me: So where are you from
Her: Seattle
Me: I can tell you have that Seattle accent
Her: Wow Seattle doesn't even have an accent
Me: Yeah I was being facetious, how did you find this dirty city
Her: Long story, where are you from
Me: x but here for school.
she precedes to tell me how she has a hookah lounge and etc. I get bored and the longer I stay the more i am becoming uninterested i attempt number close.
Me: well you're cool, let's exchange numbers.
Her: Mmmmm I am married (Just my type)
Me: Well i don't see a ring on your finger
Her: *tries to hold it in, but smiles* I don't wear it much
I began to run my anti-marriage defense game but two fucking trailer trash high schoolers cut me off and ask her about samples. I wait like 5 seconds and eject. She's at the mall so i'll go back and tease her next time i'm in on a slow night.

Was at dinner with friends Tuesday night, where we bought drinks. I planned on solo-gaming at this small yet awesome chic nightclub nearby afterwards. Buzz started wearing off, so I went to a nearby Target and bought a cheap six pack. Drank a few in my car and headed inside.

Normally, I hesitate too much in day and night situations, and then a girl ends up walking away by the time my mind is made up. Not tonight.

1. Sat on the back of a couch and tapped the shoulder of a girl in a nice black tank and white ruffled skirt (nice ass). Told her she was cute and started making chitchat about basic life questions. Asked for her number, but she said she had a boyfriend and exuberantly thanked me.

2. Didn't wait long until I saw a cute girl in an orange T and tight white pants. Saw she had a backwards LA cap and grilled her if she was from LA (I grew up there). She was a third-year student at a big college in town and was from Morocco. Back and forth questions about LA and Morocco. Asked for her number, but she dazedly wagged her finger and walked away with a grin. Ran into her again later when she was with a few Arab friends, but she was too drunk to talk. I like Middle Eastern girls (technically, Morocco isn't the Middle East but whatever), but getting anything physical going with migrants, even the partiers, is difficult. Others have this experience?

3. Saw a tall blonde in a black cocktail dress and 4 inch heels. Tapped her on the shoulder and playfully asked how tall she really was (5'7"; I'm 5'11"). Some basic stuff about where we lived and how we both hated our city. She asking several questions until some drunk dude walked between us and then some friend of hers said something to her and distracted her. Didn't get the chance to number-close.

4. When the main act set up next to the dancefloor, I noticed a cute brunette in a black leather jacket and tight jeans sitting on top of one of the speakers. She didn't get up for the next hour and sat arms and legs crossed. When I saw her later, I assumed she would be cold but opened anyway. Best repertoire of the night so far. She originally was from Germany, currently lived in Toronto, worked with the group, and commuted back and forth between cities. I told her I have narcolepsy (true story), and she knowingly laughed at what it was. I joked that not everyone knows what it is. She asked why I was alone, and I applied advice from Roosh, saying that I had been working hard all day and was out for a break. She ate it up. Unfortunately, when I asked for a number, she remorsefully said she had a bf (who was working the stage), that it would be "inappropriate" (I don't game taken chicks so no biggie), but that she was thankful and flattered. Good chemistry but taken.

5. Last chick of the night was a girl who was sitting down the couch from me. Tacky pumps, frilled jeans, striped skirt, and white T. Nice rack and bum proportion. Tried the whole "I think you're cute" line. Girl was from Mexico City, had lived in San Antonio for a few years, and now was at some local unknown acting school. Discussed our travel experiences and which cities we liked. I thought it was going well, but she shook her head when I asked if she had a number. Surprised me, but she said, "I'll see you around" when I left. Whatever that means.

Overall, 0 for 5 on number closes. 2 had a bf (I believed both), 2 wouldn't give it, and 1 didn't have the chance to give it.

You might count this as a failure, but I walked out 10% disappointed and 90% thrilled. Thrilled because I have finally been mustering courage to approach girls who aren't in my social circle or a class. I agree with those who say the disappointment bigger than being rejected is never giving oneself the opportunity to find out. Marching on.

In the future, maybe I need to be flirtier or use more kino (still working on that).

I was at the gym today totally focused on my workout. Usually when im in the gym I dont approach. Although as it so happened during my set i needed a set of 10lb weights located near this brunette( 7 body) working out on the squat rack

I go over and grab the one 10lb weight on the ground and take out my earphone and approach

Me; hey could you hand me that 10lb weight over there?

Her; (smiling) what? this one ( points to the weight)

Me; (flashing a charming smile) naw the other 10lb weight over there

She smiles and hands me the weight as i go back to working out.

Now the gym is quit crowded and she ends up working out right next to me.

I compleatly ignore her. I dont make eye contact, i dont stare at her ass nothing its like she dosent even exist.

At the end of my workout i decided to hop on the treadmill since I was sore from leg day the day before. I see her stretching over to the side of the treadmills

Im on my phone texting and look up and see her begin to exit the gym. So I smoothly stop the tread mill and casually head towards the exit, with my earphones in looking at my phone.

We exit the gym me behind her. As she holds the door open for me she goes;

Her; Are you following me? ( smiling)

Me; with those shoes how could i not ( she was wearing chuck taylors)

Her; haha

Me; how do you like working out in those shoes

Her; there good i wear them usually on leg day

Me; have you ever seen those dudes that wear those weird glove like shoes at the gym

Her; yea

Me; its such a bad idea especially around weights

Her; haha

at this point she walks off

sweet NEXT!
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I am striving to keep with my motto for 2015 " if she makes my dick hard, I have to go say hi"

overall im glad i made the approach

^ olspice

Pre-gaming in a Target parking lot with beer. Now that's a man that knows how to party lol. Great effort shown. You get a couple 100 approaches in like those you'll start closing left and right. Always got to be approaching though it never ends unless you get into a position of power over tons of hot young girls.

Coverdoc, I like your style man. Good job.

Olspice great attitude. Even though you didn't get any numbers it was still a success.

This was my first documented approach, and in fact my first post on the forum. Check out my Intro. Feel free to critique away gents. I had sort of done these day-approaches before really discovering “the Manosphere” about 7-8 months ago, but never really put my full heart into it. (Disclaimer: I have always had “Game” in the sense that I was good at talking to chicks and am funny with good delivery and facial expressions, as well as being observant; but didn’t apply these qualities to direct action. In fact, I sometimes look back, in a non-pussy nostalgic way of course, and laugh about the gay beta shit I did with girls that I now know were interested. Fuck it, it’s a nice reminder that everyone’s gotta start somehwere and there’s always room to improve. Anyway, onto the day and sorry for the rambling nature of the post, it’s kinda how I write and I’m pumped to get it all down…

Approach #1

Background: I had met this chick a few weeks earlier when I opened in her in line for a bus tour (I am on exchange in Europe), and had a solid convo. She was definitely way more into it than me, I would say she’s a 5/5.5, so nothing to write home about but whatever. Kinda drifted off from her during the tour and I could tell she wanted to exchange contact info that afternoon but I didn’t. So fast forward until today. I was walking to get a haircut and am waiting to cross the street, and see her out of my peripherals. I debate walking over to her to get her digits but I still pussying out and saying shit in my head like “She’s not that cute”, “You didn’t really like talking to her”. For some reason, I was feeling different today so I decided this will be the day I start regularly approaching and documenting my progress. She was on her iPhone so I tapped her on the shoulder, and said, “Nicole, right?”. Normally I wouldn’t want open like that, but I truly didn’t remember her name and the light was gonna turn green in a few seconds. She responds enthusiastically “YA!! How are you?!?!?”, but I could tell she did not remember my name. So I say in a light-hearted cocky way, “You don’t remember my name do you?” She apologizes and asks what it is. I tell her to guess and she gets the flustered smile. She says some bullshit like “I want to say it starts with a J, does it?” (it doesn’t). I say cockily, “I don’t know, does it?”. She laughs and is like, “Tell meet”. I say sternly but not too forcefully “You have to guess.” She doesn’t and at this point we’ve stopped on the other side of the street, so I tell her. Normal how’s it going/how are you liking it here bullshit for a few mins. I ask her if she’s been out yet, she says no besides one or two bars. I call her “Lame” and she laughs and goes “I knowwwwww.” I tell her I’m leaving to get a haircut and for her to put her number in my phone and I’ll text her if/when I go to the club. She happily agrees and makes sure it works. I peace and at this point I had sort of realized that she was with another dude going to get lunch. This was confirmed after I had left she starting talking to him and they walked into a restaurant. Sorry buddy, I was way better dressed and led the interaction, and he just stood in the back awkwardly behind her. I didn’t really feel bad because I could tell they weren't involved and it honestly feels good to act clearly more alpha in an interaction. The girl could tell I had balls. Anyway, I walked down the street feeling confident, even though the chick was decent but it more due to the fact it was my first conscious day-time approach.

Approach #2

Background: I was waiting in line for checking into an appointment, and the line wasn’t moving. Talking out loud, I ask the dude in front of me how long he’s been waiting. A chick who I hadn’t acknowledged turns around and she’s cute, I’d say 6.5. It turns out she’s Mexican, which I like. Not wanting to be rude to the dude, I shoot the shit about this line and also begin to involve the girl in the conversation. Normal convo but I started shifting my focus to the girl and the guy I think got the hint. I would still bring him back in once and awhile because he was bored as fuck and also indirectly led me to the girl. Anwyay, we start talking about Mexico and where she’s from, and I tell her the places I have been in Mexico and various stuff about Mexican culture and how it’s misinterpreted in the US especially. (Sidenote: I love Mexican culture and whenever I interact with Mexicanas I throw in some Spanish since half of my family is from South America and I speak pretty well. Also, I have found it helps to say the touristy places like Puerto Vallarta first then go with the more legit cities like D.F., Nogales, and the like. I throw in Tulum as well because it’s fucking gorgeous with the pyramids right next to the beach and thus easy to talk to girls about.) Anyway, she was in front of me in line so she got helped first, then the other guy went. My question was very short so once it occurred to me I wanted this girls number, I just asked it and then peace to down the hall. I knew she had to come past me anyway, and my appointment wasn't for 15 more minutes. She’s actually really cool like a lot of Mexican girls I’ve actually interacted with, aka not in the sorta demeaning “typical American” way talking about shit like burritos and tequila (although a tequila or better yet Mescal line always goes well if delivered correctly). Rambling while writing this aside, I strike up convo again by asking her how her question went. She was really happy and smiling and throwing in little IOI’s like touching her hair and looking down while giggling and smiling, so all was good. I playfully tease a little bit more about if what she is trying to do (open a foreign bank account goes well), then I’ll try it, but she needs to test it. She laughs and says she’ll let me know. I was already planning in my head when to go for the digits but that’s about the biggest sign that she wants it. I casually interrupt her and calmly say let’s exchange numbers, she agrees completely. She pulls her phone out and I take her number down, and then give her the phone for her to enter her name. Then I text my name right after. We ramble a little more about Mexican slang and language and shit, if I didn’t have my appointment I definitely would’ve bounced to get coffee or to a bar, it was almost happy hour by then . My lady comes and gets me and I tell her cya later and she responds with “I’ll let you know how it goes”. Good sign I think.

Approach #3

Background: By this time, I was feeling pretty solid. It is amazing how confidence just snowballs and you literally FEEL BETTER, both mentally and physically. I was walking straighter and more lively and I was smiling and my head was full of good, happy, and heterosexual thoughts . But seriously, it was a moment that I have somewhat frequently, “Life is awesome”. Not just that talking to girls and gaming are awesome, which they most definitely are, but just the self-realization of being alive and experiencing new and exciting things, as well as being safe, happy, and healthy both mentally and physically, is pretty damn awesome. Anyway, back to the approach. This girl was an 8 in my book. Blonde, super fit with an awesome body and legs and a nice ass. She was wearing yoga pants (money), so she had just come from the gym and had headphones in. Approach anxiety creeped up for a big second but I just thought, “Fuck it, I AM approaching this girl. I have to do it.”. So I tapped her on her shoulder as I was to her left, and she takes off her headphones. I open with, “Cool shoes, I have a pair just like it”— with a smirk on my face. (Her shoes were like someone jizzed a bunch of paint on a pair of Nikes). She goes, “Really?” in a way that I couldn’t tell if she knew I was joking or not so I come back in a sarcastic tone, “Ya just that mine have more pink on em”. She laughs. I ask her if she went to the gym which was dumb in retrospect and I should’ve just assumed but whatever. She’s says Ya. Asked her how it was and she says “Okay but there were a bunch of people from my school so I just left it was awkward”. Being that were on a university campus, I asked “Like grade school”. Chick says ya, talk a little about how the gym is always crowded and whatnot, I get her to laugh a lot when she mentions how they’re adding an extension and I go “Oh sweet, then there’ll be more kids from grade school there”. — Was this not necessary or to benign? Anyway, convo kinda fizzles and she wasn’t nearly into it as much as the first two, and pulls her phone out to make a call then goes the other way. Rude exit by not even saying bye or nice talking to you, but whatever. It was solid practice and she okay but the chemistry really wasn’t there. I am not normally intimidated by good looking girls, so I think it was my body language or initial approach. I kinda scooted over after looking and waited a few seconds, then approached, so maybe it was that.

One more thing about the day I talked about earlier. That confident feeling is the fucking bomb. In my meeting with the advisor lady, who was pretty sexy with a short skirt and heels, I was spitting solid game. I was having good actual rapport mixed in with the meeting and asked her personal questions like where’s she from and made some comments about partying and such which she responded, “When I was in college I did the same thing, party hard”. She asked me like 4 times if I needed anything else, and I kept the convo going in the same light-hearted flirty manner. I could tell she appreciated the banter and an actually conversation, but I swear there was something there. The way she kept asking me if I needed anything else and just the general manner of convo, plus once or twice I was looking at her and mentally telling her “I want to fuck with you right here right now” without being overly apparent or obvious. After I told her I think that’s it for now, she responded with “Well if you need anything else the office hours are blah blah blah.” I said thank you and she replied using my name, not sure if that means anything. Also, she told me exactly when she graduated (10 years ago so she’s not that old) after I asked her where she was from. She said France and I said “I could tell” with the semi-cocky look.

The interaction with the advisor was intriguing, I thought I felt something there but who fucking knows. Feel free to comment on the good/bad as well as further questions about the approaches. I appreciate the help and sorry for the length!

Approach #1:
Sat next to chick on plane. Opened on her phone. Led two 2 hr convo. and number trade.


Approach #2:
Got into elevator. Opened on her jacket. Dropped bait. Talked in lobby.
Found out where she works (a resto). Told her I'd stop by.

Wasn't nervous at all... hopefully I've turned a corner on this.

I'm back approaching. Just hit about 120 approaches so far. Ramble is getting better.

I had to meet a quota of 5 approaches this week; otherwise I'm supposed to buy Octavian drinks. We have a "goals" and "accountabilities" thing going for each other. Maybe more on that later or another thread.

I had only done about 2 approaches earlier in the week so needed to do 3 more. I got lazy and Friday came around all of a sudden. Ran into an 8 am meeting rushing so didn't approach in the morning. Was cold calling all day on the phones so didn't approach during the day. I couldn't let Octavian down nor myself. Plus I'm watching my 3 kids (exhausting) this weekend so can't do them then either.

Hence, got done with work at 5 pm and went out there in the cold on the street. Had a couple beers in me (3 pm is Beer Fridays at work) and still couldn't open on the street. Anxiety kicking my ass. Plus I got rejected with a "creep" look earlier in the week. Anyways, I wasn't giving up. Kept walking all the way up to the Chicago "Bean." Great place in Chicago to meet foreign and out of state girls btw. Tried and true by yours truly as you'll see.

Walking over, I opened a blonde 6 hanging around. A warm up if you will. Beer buzz had all but escaped, Didn't go for the number as I was hoping for cuter girls there asking her where the bean was (while I know damn well where it is).

I then got to the bean, hung around and...

#1 (Blonde 6.5, older but in decent shape. Maybe even a 7 due to cute face)

Me: (Looking at the shiny Bean like a tourist, acting like I'm taking pictures and shit see a cute mid-20s to early 30s blonde right to my left; look over to her and smile) Hey do you know what the significance of this thing is?
Her: No idea; I don't know (southern accent)
Me: I notice an accent (my go to line) ... Let me guess.. you're from Mississippi..
Her: (Smiles) no... Georgia..(her ugly ass friend, a 4 walks over)
Me: Well, you know I don't even really care about this thing, I just started talking to you because you were cute (before I could get cockblocked by the friend).
Her: (smiles at my comment; friend walks over)
Me: Hi, I'm blah blah..(smile at her friend..have small talk) Let me guess, you two are sisters? (no way that genetic mishap would have happened)
Her: No we're friends...blah blah..
Me: Well, I'm around so give me your number ... (to her friend, smiling) .. I didn't care about the Bean, I just thought your friend was attractive.
Friend: we need to be at xxxx in 5 minutes (the cockblock)
Her: I would (smiling) but I'm married... If I weren't though...
Me: (talked some more)Ok, nice meeting you anyways, have a nice time.

Maybe I should have pushed through this like a BF rejection. Just wasn't expecting it.

#2 (Blonde 6.5 with her Blonde 7 friend)

I keep walking, see a couple chicks make a little eye contact. Don't open. Beat myself up in the head. Then walk into a Walgreens.

Me: (As I walk up, the 6.5 is closer and seems more receptive) Hey, do you guys know where Michigan ave is?
Her: Oh yeah, so you walk this way and this way... (hand gestures)..
Me: (I make fun of her using "corn on the cob" to describe a building; build rapport by asking them how they no each other etc)
Her: Are you taking a cab?
Me: No it's not too cold. Where I'm from is much colder anyways.
Her: Oh where are you from?
Me: Well, guess...
Her: East coast...blah blah...blah..
Me: blah .. blah.. Anyways I'm gonna go but how can I get a hold of you?
Her: Sorry I don't give out my contact information?
Me: Well have a good night.

Might have worked if her friend wasn't there. It's tough with 2 sets. I don't know why I do it. Maybe cuz it's tough..

#3 (Girl standing outside the Walgreens; cute 7.5 brunette)

Me: Hi, do you know where the H&M is ?
Her: (smiling; I think she knew what was up) It's that way.
Me: Well, maybe you can help me..I'm looking for slim fit pants.. do you like those on guys?
Her: Well it depends on the guy?
Me: Oh come on .. I'm asking for your opinion.. (smiling)
Her: (smiling) Ok, I gotta go.. My uber is here..
Me: (uhhhh) Ok, bye...

Uber can wait. Should have gone for the number. Octavian let me count this as an approach.

Kind of happy I did 3 approaches; still not satisfied. Plus I felt like Octavian gave me a freebie with the Uber chick.

#4 (Cute black hostess at a bar/restaurant)

Me: (Walking by seeing her, I stand outside and contemplate, then say fuck it and walk in to the counter) I don't need a table;I just saw you and I just had to say hi.
Her: (smiling) Well, hi...
Me: I know you're at work, but I want to get a hold of you.
Her: (Smiles) You want my number?
Me: (Smiling) Don't make it that easy.. (wtf) Whipping out my phone and fiddling..
Her: How about I write it down for you?
Me: Wow, you are making this easier..
Her: (writes down number on a guest check)
Me: I'll text you okay (walking away)
Her: Wait, what's your name...
Me: I'm Cobra, you
Her: (smiles) It's on the paper... Shailyn..
Me: I'll text you later okay.. (leave)

Best one of all was above. Never stop trying players. Above girl was a skinny 7 with a nosering. Up my alley.

Guess I could have done one more but decided to post about the other ones before my train comes instead. Wait.. Just got in the train and sat behind a redhead...

Stay tuned.. And please, suggestions and comments are welcome..

I don't know if this is the right thread for this but i have to get it off my chest. I went to a club yesterday with some friends and approached an 8 there, we really clicked, started touching her and she liked it but everytime I started going in for more she stopped me. This went on for hours since she wouldn't kiss me but lick my finger and giving me crazy eyes, I still thought i had a shot.when the club started to get empty I suggested to continue this somewhere else and then she tells me she is waiting for her college who's getting off in one hour. she offers to get breakfast or smth another time but i just left. felt like an idiot for playing the clown for hours and keeping her entertained till her friend slips in... what should I've done differently or should I just take it as a warning if a girl won't escalate?

(01-24-2015 10:17 AM)Novus Wrote:  I don't know if this is the right thread for this but i have to get it off my chest. I went to a club yesterday with some friends and approached an 8 there, we really clicked, started touching her and she liked it but everytime I started going in for more she stopped me. This went on for hours since she wouldn't kiss me but lick my finger and giving me crazy eyes, I still thought i had a shot.when the club started to get empty I suggested to continue this somewhere else and then she tells me she is waiting for her college who's getting off in one hour. she offers to get breakfast or smth another time but i just left. felt like an idiot for playing the clown for hours and keeping her entertained till her friend slips in... what should I've done differently or should I just take it as a warning if a girl won't escalate?

Hey bro, happens to the best of us. I encountered this a few month back. I just backed off and did my own thing for a while, while making eye contact every now and then.. Eventually she came over to me and I played the usual ass hole game pushing her away and what not. She ate it up, and we ended up making out and i almost got her back to my place (passed out drunk friend).

(01-24-2015 10:17 AM)Novus Wrote:  I don't know if this is the right thread for this but i have to get it off my chest. I went to a club yesterday with some friends and approached an 8 there, we really clicked, started touching her and she liked it but everytime I started going in for more she stopped me. This went on for hours since she wouldn't kiss me but lick my finger and giving me crazy eyes, I still thought i had a shot.when the club started to get empty I suggested to continue this somewhere else and then she tells me she is waiting for her college who's getting off in one hour. she offers to get breakfast or smth another time but i just left. felt like an idiot for playing the clown for hours and keeping her entertained till her friend slips in... what should I've done differently or should I just take it as a warning if a girl won't escalate?

Licking your finger? lol That's interesting, hopefully you took her number for a potential bang another time.

(01-24-2015 10:17 AM)Novus Wrote:  I don't know if this is the right thread for this but i have to get it off my chest. I went to a club yesterday with some friends and approached an 8 there, we really clicked, started touching her and she liked it but everytime I started going in for more she stopped me. This went on for hours since she wouldn't kiss me but lick my finger and giving me crazy eyes, I still thought i had a shot.when the club started to get empty I suggested to continue this somewhere else and then she tells me she is waiting for her college who's getting off in one hour. she offers to get breakfast or smth another time but i just left. felt like an idiot for playing the clown for hours and keeping her entertained till her friend slips in... what should I've done differently or should I just take it as a warning if a girl won't escalate?

My night game isn't great as I'm mostly a daygamer. But I will tell you that you were not taking control. Take a look at the last thing I bolded in your post. You're expecting some miracle to happen and the girl to escalate. It won't happen. Let's explore the "taking control" aspect a bit further. You let everything else that I bolded control the entire interaction with the girl. Another words, you let external factors dictate the interaction, including an expectation that the girl will escalate.

As far as what you should have done, I'll let more experienced guys comment if they can. You could have just left after she gave the "I want you signals" and told her "I'll be back," and approached some other girls. I'm also not sure when you should have bounced her to another place (likely much earlier) but again "taking control" would mean you bounce her to someplace "specific." Again, you want control and know where you're taking her. Just a few thoughts but you spent way too much time on one girl. With girls, I truly believe they give you a chance for looking good but want you to take control and be a man to win her over with that chance she just gave you.

Thanks for the feedback, but maybe I should rephrase that. I tried to kiss her multiple times but she always backed off, I played it cool and tried again and again, but with no success. I'm just wondering if I misread the situation and she just showed slight interest to keep me invested till the barkeeper gets off from work.. and no I didn't ask for her number, which i regret now but I was angry and just wanted to go home.

It's been ages since I posted here..

Went direct on a girl and mall approach for the first time in 5 months. I had to break the monotony of indirect approaches and try something different.

I missed a chance at going for the number with a girl working in a mall booth. Great vibe about her, but she kept getting busy and I didn't have much time to stick around.

Got my first number from a working girl at a store. I was at the mall during slow hours. This is a step forward for me, as I think I pedestalized working girls for some reason.

Got a number from a cute egyptian girl on a night out. She took my number, her suggestion, and texted me her name.

The working girl snatched the phone out my hand to put her number in, and the egyptian girl was very affectionate with kisses. Despite the positive signs, these leads likely won't lead anywhere based on the response/lack of response I've received on the follow up, because at the moment the law of averages is out to get me.

Although I expect in a short moments time tide will change again and I'm going to have more girls than I know what to do with once again.

When it rains it pours, when it's dry its a drought. This isn't always true but seems to be the case most of the time, in my experience at least.

Went up to a chick at the mall today trying to get my daily approach in. Spot a latin/middle eastern looking chick working at E-Cig booth. Walk up and smile:
Me: Hey can you tell me more about the E-Cig here
Her: sure so this is basically an electronic cig used to ...(I cut her off)
Me: Actually I don't care about the E-Cig, I just thought you was cute and wanted to say hey
Her: Oh okay, smiles ( I notice how fucked her teeth are, but proceed anyway because boredom/experience gainer)
Me: So where are you from I notice an accent
Her: I'm from Czech's republic
Me: Oh word, Prauge? I spent some time out there this summer
She: *smiles hard* oh you like my country
Me: it was cool,
We exchange banter back and fourth and she mentions her boyfriend is the reason she is in this town. I go for number close as her teeth are really starting to bother me.
Me: so we should exchange numbers
Her: I'm sorry I can't I have a boyfriend
Me: So What I have a gold fish
Her: really can i come play with it? haha
Me: Sure give me your number and i'll let you know when
Her: I'm sorry I can't
Me: Well take down my number and when you guys break up you can call me
Her: We're never going to break up
Me: yeah yeah well come shake my hand
I leave feeling pretty good for some reason

(01-23-2015 09:26 PM)Cobra Wrote:  #4 (Cute black hostess at a bar/restaurant)

Me: (Walking by seeing her, I stand outside and contemplate, then say fuck it and walk in to the counter) I don't need a table;I just saw you and I just had to say hi.
Her: (smiling) Well, hi...
Me: I know you're at work, but I want to get a hold of you.
Her: (Smiles) You want my number?
Me: (Smiling) Don't make it that easy.. (wtf) Whipping out my phone and fiddling..
Her: How about I write it down for you?
Me: Wow, you are making this easier..
Her: (writes down number on a guest check)
Me: I'll text you okay (walking away)
Her: Wait, what's your name...
Me: I'm Cobra, you
Her: (smiles) It's on the paper... Shailyn..
Me: I'll text you later okay.. (leave)

I like this.

Sometimes I feel as if there are always certain rules to be followed when meeting girls in deviated situations. I'm personally trying to adopt the mindset that there are no rules, you can be flexible and do whatever you want, and you can tailor this to the situation.

This is a good example.

A good thing to remember is whenever you see a cute girl that brings out strong attraction in you, no matter the hesitation, or situation... Anything you say to her, no matter what and how it is you have increased your chances of having her in your life by 0 to some other value.

And, if it doesn't work out, no biggie. You get to next her because you acted, and not because you hesitated. And that is a big difference for your game and how you feel afterwards.

Approach #1:

Redhead in classy boots and coat. Opened her after a bit. I got to making statements and not asking questions right away. This is the thing I need to cut most from my game, and I did it well this time.

I told her she looked like some hipster from the midwest after I couldn't discern an accent. Not really, she's from Boston. Screened her interest a few times (she wanted me to stay, she shortly followed my lead of taking off my sunglasses) and we walked a bit and I guessed correctly that she was in fashion.

Turns out she was going to the hospital to visit a friend who's dad was there, whatever that means. I got her number after a short walk and continued on.

I'm mixed about this one. On the one hand I screened her level of interest a few times and she was offering me her number. On the other hand I wondered if she wanted to get rid of me since she quipped a few times of "I don't want to interrupt your wandering."

But once you get good at game you really don't care. Will text her later to see what happens.

Approach #2:

Ukrainian girl in a fancy coat. Instant date. Ascertained to see how far it could go and got her number, will likely meet her later this week.

Humorously, this girl eventually began complaining to me about women becoming masculinized. Safe to say we had an enthralling discussion about these issues.

Checked out a non-chain bookstore a 10 minute walk from my place.

1. When leaving, I passed a hot blonde sitting by herself. Saw she had a Starbucks cup (we aren't at Starbucks) and asked where the Starbucks was (I feigned being new around). She was staring at her phone and rudely started talking with eyes still on the phone. I could tell she did not want to talk much. Got the directions and decided not to pursue further.

2. Came back to the same bookstore later and sat near an OK girl. Opened her asking if the coffee was good and started talking about her being a local, our jobs, and her trip to San Fran. Though nervous, I still joked around with her poor geography skills. She got up to get a smoothie and asked if I wanted anything. I politely declined. She came back and sat down. The whole time I know I could've gotten her number. Decided I wasn't into her sexually enough (she had a slight double chin), tho I know several guys on this forum would gladly do her. I would rather have quality than quantity.

3. Saw a cute country-looking girl eating a pastry by herself. Went to the bathroom and settled on asking her if it was a cheese pastry when I came back. Should've just asked her the first time cuz she was gone when I returned.

Overall, approaches were meh, but I regularly return to this bookstore. If I'm doing work or watching a movie on my laptop at the local bookstore, it's less of a time/money investment than going out. Don't even have to buy coffee (I prefer caffeine pills) to sit here

Approached this cute 8+ girl at the bar the other night. Right away I could tell she was interested.

She was giving me those eyes.

Those eyes that just show shes loving what she sees. Shes got a craving for my menu. She was initiating alot of the touching so I thought this looked good.

After about 20 minutes I drop a line, from what I thought was simply playful and funny, she took it harsh.

" You know you should whiten your teeth, I have these white strips that work wonders".

Now her teeth werent that yellow,but she definitely could have used them, and I was really just trying to have fun. I wasnt as if I called her a fat busted bitch.

She took it as an insult. The interaction took a serious nose dive. I still went for the number, but by that point she was fed up with me and declined to give me.

Didnt expect her to take it so hard. I learned my lesson.

But then again, if she let some innocent/playful comment ruin our conversation, then was she really interested?

She was interested. When girls openly show they like you don't punish them, reward them.

You effectively punish snarky bitches with negs to hit their self esteem. This girl is doing everything right and being vulnerable, sweet, and feminine. Don't punish her. Reward her by giving her attention and escalating.

This was classic over-gaming.

(01-26-2015 02:16 AM)sandman972 Wrote:  " You know you should whiten your teeth, I have these white strips that work wonders".

Now her teeth werent that yellow,but she definitely could have used them, and I was really just trying to have fun. I wasnt as if I called her a fat busted bitch.

She took it as an insult. The interaction took a serious nose dive. I still went for the number, but by that point she was fed up with me and declined to give me.

Didnt expect her to take it so hard. I learned my lesson.

But then again, if she let some innocent/playful comment ruin our conversation, then was she really interested?

You don't neg girls that are already interested and willing to follow your lead. Some light teasing is fine and fun, but that was not light.

Even as far as snarky bitches are concerned, I just don't even bother. I'll move on to another girl more interested.

The use of negs does little good for your overall game in the long run IMO.

(01-26-2015 08:59 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 02:16 AM)sandman972 Wrote:  " You know you should whiten your teeth, I have these white strips that work wonders".

Now her teeth werent that yellow,but she definitely could have used them, and I was really just trying to have fun. I wasnt as if I called her a fat busted bitch.

She took it as an insult. The interaction took a serious nose dive. I still went for the number, but by that point she was fed up with me and declined to give me.

Didnt expect her to take it so hard. I learned my lesson.

But then again, if she let some innocent/playful comment ruin our conversation, then was she really interested?

You don't neg girls that are already interested and willing to follow your lead. Some light teasing is fine and fun, but that was not light.

Even as far as snarky bitches are concerned, I just don't even bother. I'll move on to another girl more interested.

The use of negs does little good for your overall game in the long run IMO.

Yea I agree. I got carried away and paid for it. Happens once in a while.

Originally posted this in the Newbie Forum, didn't see this thread.

Community college kid new to game here. I finally decided to get off my ass and start approaching this semester. I got this (i'm guessing) palestinian girl's number and the next day after class I invited her to grab some food with me. We drove down the street and stopped at a burger place. I ordered and asked her if she wanted anything. She got a lemonade. I was about to pay, but she handed the cashier her card before I even got my wallet out. I thanked her and offered her a 10 to cover my burger but she refused to accept it. She's really cute and seemed really interested in me, so I figured everything was going pretty well. We had a lot of flirty conversation in the restaurant. After I finished eating, we went back to my car and I started making out with her immediately. She seemed really clueless, held back for a second, and told me she never kissed a boy before. We continued to make out for a while longer and she was slowly starting to get it. Fast forward to Sunday, we makeout in my car again after class and she's getting much more touchy, so I suggest we get in my backseat. We made out and cuddled for a long time, and we had this initial plan of going to either my or her house to work on our homework. She said she was just gonna go home and didn't wanna hang out any more. Fast forward to today, we go to my car immediately after class and do the same thing. She said she had work at 1, so only had about a half hour with me. We got in my backseat again and this time dry humped and felt each other up. She stops a lot and just hugs and rests her head on my shoulder and cuddles. I told her to text me when she gets out of work if she's free to hang out.

Something feels off, I feel like she isn't going to. I've initiated every text conversation and have only tried texting about logistics and hanging out after class. The only thing she wants to do after class is makeout in my car, never anything else.

I don't want a makeout buddy, I want a fuck buddy. If she wants to be my girlfriend, I wouldn't mind that either; but she seems really distant when it comes to trying to actually hang out. Is this common virgin behaviour, or is she just using me to makeout and cuddle? I'm extremely confused here.

These blue balls are totally not worth this girl. I'm either thinking she's from a religious family (islam, this would explain why she was kissless and is a virgin) and what we're doing might be frowned upon, or I might be just moving too fast?

I've only had sex with a couple girls and only had one short term relationship before this, so I have a lot to learn.

+1

Not to be harsh but there was zero reason to drop a harsh neg like that. She seemed open, responsive and nice and you should've immediately transitioned into suave flirty fun escalate mode. This reveals you are too in your head and reading too much material. Here's the rule of thumb - stop negging when you get good IOIs focus on making her work for it a but then receding and pushing into comfort.

Save the nuclear negs for mean spirited bitches. Stick to being congruent with the rhythm and not following a script. It happens.

Game on