(01-26-2015 01:53 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  Originally posted this in the Newbie Forum, didn't see this thread.

Community college kid new to game here. I finally decided to get off my ass and start approaching this semester. I got this (i'm guessing) palestinian girl's number and the next day after class I invited her to grab some food with me. We drove down the street and stopped at a burger place. I ordered and asked her if she wanted anything. She got a lemonade. I was about to pay, but she handed the cashier her card before I even got my wallet out. I thanked her and offered her a 10 to cover my burger but she refused to accept it. She's really cute and seemed really interested in me, so I figured everything was going pretty well. We had a lot of flirty conversation in the restaurant. After I finished eating, we went back to my car and I started making out with her immediately. She seemed really clueless, held back for a second, and told me she never kissed a boy before. We continued to make out for a while longer and she was slowly starting to get it. Fast forward to Sunday, we makeout in my car again after class and she's getting much more touchy, so I suggest we get in my backseat. We made out and cuddled for a long time, and we had this initial plan of going to either my or her house to work on our homework. She said she was just gonna go home and didn't wanna hang out any more. Fast forward to today, we go to my car immediately after class and do the same thing. She said she had work at 1, so only had about a half hour with me. We got in my backseat again and this time dry humped and felt each other up. She stops a lot and just hugs and rests her head on my shoulder and cuddles. I told her to text me when she gets out of work if she's free to hang out.

Something feels off, I feel like she isn't going to. I've initiated every text conversation and have only tried texting about logistics and hanging out after class. The only thing she wants to do after class is makeout in my car, never anything else.

I don't want a makeout buddy, I want a fuck buddy. If she wants to be my girlfriend, I wouldn't mind that either; but she seems really distant when it comes to trying to actually hang out. Is this common virgin behaviour, or is she just using me to makeout and cuddle? I'm extremely confused here.

These blue balls are totally not worth this girl. I'm either thinking she's from a religious family (islam, this would explain why she was kissless and is a virgin) and what we're doing might be frowned upon, or I might be just moving too fast?

I've only had sex with a couple girls and only had one short term relationship before this, so I have a lot to learn.

Yeah dude try to stop having these meetings in the back seat of your car. If you can get her to your place or a friend's place. Somewhere were you guys can relax and you can take your time getting her comfortable and hopefully pants off.
I read a good tip on the forum that girls feel more comfortable with shirt on so just try to get pants off. Could be religion could be any number of things going through her hamster mine. Push through if she's worth it, but in the mean time "always be approaching"

After some good momentum this month - I've been dragging on the approaches lately - combination of being sick, busy with work, hobby (surfing). Lying to myself as I need to make it a priority. Whats ended up happening is its improved my night game because its so much easier when I push myself in daygame.

Question: I've been running in a good number of 2sets during the weekends that I pass on the approach with - which I need work on. Any suggestions on day opening 2 sets?

I've been off of game for a few months. I just haven't been feeling it, with job stress, a death in the family, and shitty winter weather & short days bringing me down. I went to yoga today and there was a substitute instructor who was in her 40s but otherwise right in my wheelhouse: short (probably right at 5'), blonde, blue eyes. I spent the whole class thinking how I could enjoy banging her. So I dragged ass getting out and made sure I was the last one to leave. I chatted her up a bit and she was very talkative. My problem was that I didn't drive the conversation enough. I could see it happening, but I just didn't make the transition and throw her off balance. As I walked out I realized that the easy way to break her off her yoga blather would've been to comment on her blue eyes and get her thinking about physical attributes and attraction. Oh well, I at least could see what was going wrong in real time, next time I'll have to take action before I blow the conversation.

(01-27-2015 12:46 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 01:53 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  Originally posted this in the Newbie Forum, didn't see this thread.

Community college kid new to game here. I finally decided to get off my ass and start approaching this semester. I got this (i'm guessing) palestinian girl's number and the next day after class I invited her to grab some food with me. We drove down the street and stopped at a burger place. I ordered and asked her if she wanted anything. She got a lemonade. I was about to pay, but she handed the cashier her card before I even got my wallet out. I thanked her and offered her a 10 to cover my burger but she refused to accept it. She's really cute and seemed really interested in me, so I figured everything was going pretty well. We had a lot of flirty conversation in the restaurant. After I finished eating, we went back to my car and I started making out with her immediately. She seemed really clueless, held back for a second, and told me she never kissed a boy before. We continued to make out for a while longer and she was slowly starting to get it. Fast forward to Sunday, we makeout in my car again after class and she's getting much more touchy, so I suggest we get in my backseat. We made out and cuddled for a long time, and we had this initial plan of going to either my or her house to work on our homework. She said she was just gonna go home and didn't wanna hang out any more. Fast forward to today, we go to my car immediately after class and do the same thing. She said she had work at 1, so only had about a half hour with me. We got in my backseat again and this time dry humped and felt each other up. She stops a lot and just hugs and rests her head on my shoulder and cuddles. I told her to text me when she gets out of work if she's free to hang out.

EDIT ** Another thing. I think I might try to escalate to the bang in my or her car. Anybody have experience with car sex in the middle of the day? My dick tells me she wants me to fuck her, and fucking her fast might be the best way to get her to eventually sneak over to my house. Where to park, face the car, etc, perhaps put blankets in my backseat? Haha, help.

Something feels off, I feel like she isn't going to. I've initiated every text conversation and have only tried texting about logistics and hanging out after class. The only thing she wants to do after class is makeout in my car, never anything else.

I don't want a makeout buddy, I want a fuck buddy. If she wants to be my girlfriend, I wouldn't mind that either; but she seems really distant when it comes to trying to actually hang out. Is this common virgin behaviour, or is she just using me to makeout and cuddle? I'm extremely confused here.

These blue balls are totally not worth this girl. I'm either thinking she's from a religious family (islam, this would explain why she was kissless and is a virgin) and what we're doing might be frowned upon, or I might be just moving too fast?

I've only had sex with a couple girls and only had one short term relationship before this, so I have a lot to learn.

Yeah dude try to stop having these meetings in the back seat of your car. If you can get her to your place or a friend's place. Somewhere were you guys can relax and you can take your time getting her comfortable and hopefully pants off.
I read a good tip on the forum that girls feel more comfortable with shirt on so just try to get pants off. Could be religion could be any number of things going through her hamster mine. Push through if she's worth it, but in the mean time "always be approaching"

Update. I had enough of the mixed responses, so I went against what I said earlier about waiting for her to text me, because I knew for a fact she wouldn't want to hang out after work (p.s. I was right). She said some shit about "I'm too tired! Get some sleep!" I responded with "Sure, come with me". She bit and was sending a shit ton of flirty texts to me (2-3 in a row sometimes), saying all the things she loves that I do to her and how embarrassing it is that she's admitting it all. All really softcore stuff, but like I said, she was kissless before me.

Anyway, I restarted the conversation today and, due to our hectic work schedules this week, I invited her over saturday night (I know I know, I should be planning for week nights. But she keeps rejecting every invitation). Surprise surprise, she said she has work and a lot of homework to do. Funny thing is, she told me she wants to meet in.. you guessed it.. her jobs parking lot before her shift tomorrow. I said I'd come a couple hours beforehand "depending on when I roll out of bed" and she responded with "OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS", then basically implied that she wanted me to come earlier.

She's obviously really infatuated with me, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that there's some third variable preventing recreational meetups. I really think it's her religion. I think she might be hiding this fling from her family. If I'm right, this is a pretty big ego boost knowing that I was the only guy who made this girl escape the boundaries of her religion.

Question: Should I ask her about her religion tomorrow, or just keep trying to escalate and invite her over? I feel as if I might be better off not knowing (even if I'm right), and might eventually get her to my house. Keep in mind that I've only known her for a few days now.

(01-27-2015 07:28 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:46 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 01:53 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  Originally posted this in the Newbie Forum, didn't see this thread.

Community college kid new to game here. I finally decided to get off my ass and start approaching this semester. I got this (i'm guessing) palestinian girl's number and the next day after class I invited her to grab some food with me. We drove down the street and stopped at a burger place. I ordered and asked her if she wanted anything. She got a lemonade. I was about to pay, but she handed the cashier her card before I even got my wallet out. I thanked her and offered her a 10 to cover my burger but she refused to accept it. She's really cute and seemed really interested in me, so I figured everything was going pretty well. We had a lot of flirty conversation in the restaurant. After I finished eating, we went back to my car and I started making out with her immediately. She seemed really clueless, held back for a second, and told me she never kissed a boy before. We continued to make out for a while longer and she was slowly starting to get it. Fast forward to Sunday, we makeout in my car again after class and she's getting much more touchy, so I suggest we get in my backseat. We made out and cuddled for a long time, and we had this initial plan of going to either my or her house to work on our homework. She said she was just gonna go home and didn't wanna hang out any more. Fast forward to today, we go to my car immediately after class and do the same thing. She said she had work at 1, so only had about a half hour with me. We got in my backseat again and this time dry humped and felt each other up. She stops a lot and just hugs and rests her head on my shoulder and cuddles. I told her to text me when she gets out of work if she's free to hang out.

EDIT ** Another thing. I think I might try to escalate to the bang in my or her car. Anybody have experience with car sex in the middle of the day? My dick tells me she wants me to fuck her, and fucking her fast might be the best way to get her to eventually sneak over to my house. Where to park, face the car, etc, perhaps put blankets in my backseat? Haha, help.

Something feels off, I feel like she isn't going to. I've initiated every text conversation and have only tried texting about logistics and hanging out after class. The only thing she wants to do after class is makeout in my car, never anything else.

I don't want a makeout buddy, I want a fuck buddy. If she wants to be my girlfriend, I wouldn't mind that either; but she seems really distant when it comes to trying to actually hang out. Is this common virgin behaviour, or is she just using me to makeout and cuddle? I'm extremely confused here.

These blue balls are totally not worth this girl. I'm either thinking she's from a religious family (islam, this would explain why she was kissless and is a virgin) and what we're doing might be frowned upon, or I might be just moving too fast?

I've only had sex with a couple girls and only had one short term relationship before this, so I have a lot to learn.

Yeah dude try to stop having these meetings in the back seat of your car. If you can get her to your place or a friend's place. Somewhere were you guys can relax and you can take your time getting her comfortable and hopefully pants off.
I read a good tip on the forum that girls feel more comfortable with shirt on so just try to get pants off. Could be religion could be any number of things going through her hamster mine. Push through if she's worth it, but in the mean time "always be approaching"

Update. I had enough of the mixed responses, so I went against what I said earlier about waiting for her to text me, because I knew for a fact she wouldn't want to hang out after work (p.s. I was right). She said some shit about "I'm too tired! Get some sleep!" I responded with "Sure, come with me". She bit and was sending a shit ton of flirty texts to me (2-3 in a row sometimes), saying all the things she loves that I do to her and how embarrassing it is that she's admitting it all. All really softcore stuff, but like I said, she was kissless before me.

Anyway, I restarted the conversation today and, due to our hectic work schedules this week, I invited her over saturday night (I know I know, I should be planning for week nights. But she keeps rejecting every invitation). Surprise surprise, she said she has work and a lot of homework to do. Funny thing is, she told me she wants to meet in.. you guessed it.. her jobs parking lot before her shift tomorrow. I said I'd come a couple hours beforehand "depending on when I roll out of bed" and she responded with "OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS", then basically implied that she wanted me to come earlier.

She's obviously really infatuated with me, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that there's some third variable preventing recreational meetups. I really think it's her religion. I think she might be hiding this fling from her family. If I'm right, this is a pretty big ego boost knowing that I was the only guy who made this girl escape the boundaries of her religion.

Question: Should I ask her about her religion tomorrow, or just keep trying to escalate and invite her over? I feel as if I might be better off not knowing (even if I'm right), and might eventually get her to my house. Keep in mind that I've only known her for a few days now.

dont dry-up her pussy by asking about her religion.

escalate, escalate.

your number one goal is to get the pussy...nothing else

if you have to fuck her in a parking lot fine or at your house even better.

Dont lose sight of the goal... go towards the pussy. Dont make it harder than it actually is.

(01-27-2015 07:38 PM)Sketness Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 07:28 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:46 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 01:53 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  Originally posted this in the Newbie Forum, didn't see this thread.

Community college kid new to game here. I finally decided to get off my ass and start approaching this semester. I got this (i'm guessing) palestinian girl's number and the next day after class I invited her to grab some food with me. We drove down the street and stopped at a burger place. I ordered and asked her if she wanted anything. She got a lemonade. I was about to pay, but she handed the cashier her card before I even got my wallet out. I thanked her and offered her a 10 to cover my burger but she refused to accept it. She's really cute and seemed really interested in me, so I figured everything was going pretty well. We had a lot of flirty conversation in the restaurant. After I finished eating, we went back to my car and I started making out with her immediately. She seemed really clueless, held back for a second, and told me she never kissed a boy before. We continued to make out for a while longer and she was slowly starting to get it. Fast forward to Sunday, we makeout in my car again after class and she's getting much more touchy, so I suggest we get in my backseat. We made out and cuddled for a long time, and we had this initial plan of going to either my or her house to work on our homework. She said she was just gonna go home and didn't wanna hang out any more. Fast forward to today, we go to my car immediately after class and do the same thing. She said she had work at 1, so only had about a half hour with me. We got in my backseat again and this time dry humped and felt each other up. She stops a lot and just hugs and rests her head on my shoulder and cuddles. I told her to text me when she gets out of work if she's free to hang out.

EDIT ** Another thing. I think I might try to escalate to the bang in my or her car. Anybody have experience with car sex in the middle of the day? My dick tells me she wants me to fuck her, and fucking her fast might be the best way to get her to eventually sneak over to my house. Where to park, face the car, etc, perhaps put blankets in my backseat? Haha, help.

Something feels off, I feel like she isn't going to. I've initiated every text conversation and have only tried texting about logistics and hanging out after class. The only thing she wants to do after class is makeout in my car, never anything else.

I don't want a makeout buddy, I want a fuck buddy. If she wants to be my girlfriend, I wouldn't mind that either; but she seems really distant when it comes to trying to actually hang out. Is this common virgin behaviour, or is she just using me to makeout and cuddle? I'm extremely confused here.

These blue balls are totally not worth this girl. I'm either thinking she's from a religious family (islam, this would explain why she was kissless and is a virgin) and what we're doing might be frowned upon, or I might be just moving too fast?

I've only had sex with a couple girls and only had one short term relationship before this, so I have a lot to learn.

Yeah dude try to stop having these meetings in the back seat of your car. If you can get her to your place or a friend's place. Somewhere were you guys can relax and you can take your time getting her comfortable and hopefully pants off.
I read a good tip on the forum that girls feel more comfortable with shirt on so just try to get pants off. Could be religion could be any number of things going through her hamster mine. Push through if she's worth it, but in the mean time "always be approaching"

Update. I had enough of the mixed responses, so I went against what I said earlier about waiting for her to text me, because I knew for a fact she wouldn't want to hang out after work (p.s. I was right). She said some shit about "I'm too tired! Get some sleep!" I responded with "Sure, come with me". She bit and was sending a shit ton of flirty texts to me (2-3 in a row sometimes), saying all the things she loves that I do to her and how embarrassing it is that she's admitting it all. All really softcore stuff, but like I said, she was kissless before me.

Anyway, I restarted the conversation today and, due to our hectic work schedules this week, I invited her over saturday night (I know I know, I should be planning for week nights. But she keeps rejecting every invitation). Surprise surprise, she said she has work and a lot of homework to do. Funny thing is, she told me she wants to meet in.. you guessed it.. her jobs parking lot before her shift tomorrow. I said I'd come a couple hours beforehand "depending on when I roll out of bed" and she responded with "OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS", then basically implied that she wanted me to come earlier.

She's obviously really infatuated with me, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that there's some third variable preventing recreational meetups. I really think it's her religion. I think she might be hiding this fling from her family. If I'm right, this is a pretty big ego boost knowing that I was the only guy who made this girl escape the boundaries of her religion.

Question: Should I ask her about her religion tomorrow, or just keep trying to escalate and invite her over? I feel as if I might be better off not knowing (even if I'm right), and might eventually get her to my house. Keep in mind that I've only known her for a few days now.

dont dry-up her pussy by asking about her religion.

escalate, escalate.

your number one goal is to get the pussy...nothing else

if you have to fuck her in a parking lot fine or at your house even better.

Dont lose sight of the goal... go towards the pussy. Dont make it harder than it actually is.

That's what I figured. I'm gonna try to fuck her in my car ASAP. Any tips? Never had car sex. Might be tough in a public parking lot in broad daylight.

edited cause shitty grammar

(01-27-2015 07:41 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 07:38 PM)Sketness Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 07:28 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  

(01-27-2015 12:46 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 01:53 PM)Oasiz Wrote:  Originally posted this in the Newbie Forum, didn't see this thread.

Community college kid new to game here. I finally decided to get off my ass and start approaching this semester. I got this (i'm guessing) palestinian girl's number and the next day after class I invited her to grab some food with me. We drove down the street and stopped at a burger place. I ordered and asked her if she wanted anything. She got a lemonade. I was about to pay, but she handed the cashier her card before I even got my wallet out. I thanked her and offered her a 10 to cover my burger but she refused to accept it. She's really cute and seemed really interested in me, so I figured everything was going pretty well. We had a lot of flirty conversation in the restaurant. After I finished eating, we went back to my car and I started making out with her immediately. She seemed really clueless, held back for a second, and told me she never kissed a boy before. We continued to make out for a while longer and she was slowly starting to get it. Fast forward to Sunday, we makeout in my car again after class and she's getting much more touchy, so I suggest we get in my backseat. We made out and cuddled for a long time, and we had this initial plan of going to either my or her house to work on our homework. She said she was just gonna go home and didn't wanna hang out any more. Fast forward to today, we go to my car immediately after class and do the same thing. She said she had work at 1, so only had about a half hour with me. We got in my backseat again and this time dry humped and felt each other up. She stops a lot and just hugs and rests her head on my shoulder and cuddles. I told her to text me when she gets out of work if she's free to hang out.

EDIT ** Another thing. I think I might try to escalate to the bang in my or her car. Anybody have experience with car sex in the middle of the day? My dick tells me she wants me to fuck her, and fucking her fast might be the best way to get her to eventually sneak over to my house. Where to park, face the car, etc, perhaps put blankets in my backseat? Haha, help.

Something feels off, I feel like she isn't going to. I've initiated every text conversation and have only tried texting about logistics and hanging out after class. The only thing she wants to do after class is makeout in my car, never anything else.

I don't want a makeout buddy, I want a fuck buddy. If she wants to be my girlfriend, I wouldn't mind that either; but she seems really distant when it comes to trying to actually hang out. Is this common virgin behaviour, or is she just using me to makeout and cuddle? I'm extremely confused here.

These blue balls are totally not worth this girl. I'm either thinking she's from a religious family (islam, this would explain why she was kissless and is a virgin) and what we're doing might be frowned upon, or I might be just moving too fast?

I've only had sex with a couple girls and only had one short term relationship before this, so I have a lot to learn.

Yeah dude try to stop having these meetings in the back seat of your car. If you can get her to your place or a friend's place. Somewhere were you guys can relax and you can take your time getting her comfortable and hopefully pants off.
I read a good tip on the forum that girls feel more comfortable with shirt on so just try to get pants off. Could be religion could be any number of things going through her hamster mine. Push through if she's worth it, but in the mean time "always be approaching"

Update. I had enough of the mixed responses, so I went against what I said earlier about waiting for her to text me, because I knew for a fact she wouldn't want to hang out after work (p.s. I was right). She said some shit about "I'm too tired! Get some sleep!" I responded with "Sure, come with me". She bit and was sending a shit ton of flirty texts to me (2-3 in a row sometimes), saying all the things she loves that I do to her and how embarrassing it is that she's admitting it all. All really softcore stuff, but like I said, she was kissless before me.

Anyway, I restarted the conversation today and, due to our hectic work schedules this week, I invited her over saturday night (I know I know, I should be planning for week nights. But she keeps rejecting every invitation). Surprise surprise, she said she has work and a lot of homework to do. Funny thing is, she told me she wants to meet in.. you guessed it.. her jobs parking lot before her shift tomorrow. I said I'd come a couple hours beforehand "depending on when I roll out of bed" and she responded with "OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS", then basically implied that she wanted me to come earlier.

She's obviously really infatuated with me, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that there's some third variable preventing recreational meetups. I really think it's her religion. I think she might be hiding this fling from her family. If I'm right, this is a pretty big ego boost knowing that I was the only guy who made this girl escape the boundaries of her religion.

Question: Should I ask her about her religion tomorrow, or just keep trying to escalate and invite her over? I feel as if I might be better off not knowing (even if I'm right), and might eventually get her to my house. Keep in mind that I've only known her for a few days now.

dont dry-up her pussy by asking about her religion.

escalate, escalate.

your number one goal is to get the pussy...nothing else

if you have to fuck her in a parking lot fine or at your house even better.

Dont lose sight of the goal... go towards the pussy. Dont make it harder than it actually is.

That's what I figured. I'm gonna try to fuck her in my car ASAP. Any tips? Never had car sex. Might be tough in a public parking lot in broad daylight.

edited cause shitty grammar

park in a secluded spot (obviously)

get in the back seat and slide both front seats up for room.

bring condoms

finger her till she gets wet, put condom on and have her hop on

have fun

These little diary entries are so insightful. Not only do they provide encouragement,but I also get a different insight into how other guys respond to certain things. Great stuff!

Only one approach today, but it was interesting, red-pill interesting.

Went to the free twice-weekly yoga class at the local park (attractive women every time). Talked to a Cuban newbie (flat chest but nice ass) before and after the class and got her number. A lawyer, she lived nearby, like me, but walked WITH me on a non-usual route. We talked about the area and whatnot. Shook hands and parted ways. Texted her, "It's _____, the handsome guy from yoga." She had a boring, monotone-ish voice (similar to my borderline ex).

I suspected she'd respond instantly, which she did. Didn't take long for some flirting...and then she asked how young I was. "I'm 25." She didn't believe me and got a little hysterical ("You're lying!!!" and "Bye!! omg). I finally convinced her. Sensing that this chick may be crazy, though still wanting to bone her, I straight-up told her that I didn't want to waste her time if she wanted something serious (I wanna avoid as many relationship whores and general crazies as possible). Lots of back and forth about that and how "young guys just want fun." Turns out the chick is 33 and, in her own words, "a serial monogamist." She seemed offended when I texted, "I thought you looked my age." Lol

Figuring that I had nothing to lose with this older chick, I even got a little sexual with her (she wouldn't answer my q's). We asked other personal questions, though I could care less about who she was.

In the end, she wouldn't budge about how I didn't want anything serious.

I became too laudatory towards her sexually and carried on the convo way too long, but I never expected to approach an older woman who's looking to settle down.

In short, the woman clearly wants to settle down but is frustrated that all the young dudes still wanna fuck around. Might hit her up again in a week or two.

Today's post is more of a failed approach that I witnessed during my workout. I think that showing what not to do may help some guys more than telling them what not to do. I know that watching this approach I definitely learned a lot by observing the mistakes this guy made.


I went to the gym today earlier than I usually do, mainly to beat the afternoon rush.

At this time of day around 12:30-1ish you normally dont get a lot of cute girls, its mostly older people. But for some reason today there were a couple of cute girls in the gym.

About in the middle of my shoulder set I notice this cute brunette (7) with fake tits enter the free weight area across the gym. I've opened this girl before and I know that she is very friendly ( with a lot of beta orbiters in the gym)

I ignore her and quickly regain focus back on my set. Though it was a second movement in her direction that captivated my attention once again.

A guy in a wife beater eagerly runs across the gym to greet her.

For this particular chick this happens all of the time. Guys will come up and "chat" with her all of the time. This guy happens to be one of the guys who frequently does this.

From an outsiders perspective the conversation seamed like a normal "guy trying to get brownie points with the cute chick" type of conversation. It happens all of the time, though it was what happened afterward where we can see the game mistakes.

She talks to him for about 3 mins smiling casually then proceeds to go back to her workout.

The guy then puts in his earphones and starts to workout on the bench press directly behind her. He takes the bar off of the bench press and puts it on the ground relatively close to her and commences his workout.

Not more than 7 mins later he re-engages her. This time he has a big goofy smile on his face, and he is extra animated in expression with his hands.

Her body is facing outward she is donning a fake smile.

He lets her get back to her workout.

10mins later he starts to talk to her again. She is short and curt with him, then leaves the area.

*******************************************************

For me witnessing this approach has taught me a couple of lessons.

1. Don't be eager when approaching girls when this chick entered the gym this dude practically Ron Artest'ed an old lady just to say hi.

just chill and approach with a purpose.

2. Especially in the gym Keep the conversation short and fun with a little bit of wit

This dude made the mistake of dragging out the conversation not one but two times. Keep that shit short. Display your personality then either grab the number and bounce or play the long game depending on the situation

3. By showing to much attention you over value the product

This chick could have said Abarham Lincoln was the 1st president of the United States and this dude would have eagerly agreed.

just chill... the best game is no game ( to a degree)

Act like you've been there before and she'll believe you.

*******************************************************

Now a couple of things that happened to me the same day.

The same brunette, had re-entered the free weight area and was doing military presses.

During my set I feel like im going to throw up so I walk calmly to the trashcan ( which is located near her) to dry heave. Then I walk back past her back to my weights.

The whole time I completely ignore her.

As Im walking I can feel her take a side glance at me as I pass inches away.
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Im working out in the free weight area inf ront of the mirror and I notice a brunette (6)on the squat rack behind me. I catch her glancing at me, though I pay her no mind and return to my set.

As I am walking out of the gym she passes me and I see that she has a shirt that has the statue of chirst the redeemer in Rio saving a soccer ball from a goal saying "Jesus Saves"

I go:

Me: thats a cool shirt

Her; thanks lol

Me; are you from brasil

Her; no haha

Me; wow, thats a dope shirt none the less

Her; thanks hah


The point is don't be eager, act like what you approach and chat all the time. you'll come off like a natural if you do. It's helped me thats for sure

I'm about close to missing my approach goal of 5 for the week.

Just been real in my head. Now I need to do 5 tomorrow.

Octavian will hold me accountable but I'm posting here so the forum holds me accountable as well.

Just had a somewhat crazy week at work where I was expecting a deal to go through and it didn't. So I got angry instead of dealing with it.

Edit: anger drove the anxiety. It's not that I can't approach but the anxiety is a bitch to get rid of especially in a situation like this. I really need to get this under control.

Plus a lot of approaches I've done were with Octavian's company. Solo approaching on the street or in a public place is tougher for sure.

Stay tuned for tomorrow gents.

(01-29-2015 07:29 PM)Cobra Wrote:  I'm about close to missing my approach goal of 5 for the week.

Just been real in my head. Now I need to do 5 tomorrow.

Octavian will hold me accountable but I'm posting here so the forum holds me accountable as well.

Just had a somewhat crazy week at work where I was expecting a deal to go through and it didn't. So I got angry instead of dealing with it.

Edit: anger drove the anxiety. It's not that I can't approach but the anxiety is a bitch to get rid of especially in a situation like this. I really need to get this under control.

Plus a lot of approaches I've done were with Octavian's company. Solo approaching on the street or in a public place is tougher for sure.

Stay tuned for tomorrow gents.

When I have a rough day/week at work my approaches suffer as well.

Good news is the more experienced you get at both approaching and your new profession you will ride the waves better and it will be no big deal.

Just keeping shooting at the basket something will go in.

I've been reading the forum for some time now so here goes my first post.

I'm walking around a mall (in Northern California). I do a little light shopping and grab and coffee to walk around with so I have a couple of props. I spot a cute blond in lulu's coming out of a store, I'm about to go over but she quickly heads into another store. I do a fake phone call ( credit to Gio) and hang around til she comes out.

Me: Do you know how to get to California Pizza Kitchen from here?

Her: Yeah, just walk down blah blah

Me: cool. Having a shopping day?

Her: haha yeah, looks like you are too.

Me: Yeah, they don't have malls this big where I'm from

Her: where are you from?

Me: (redacted)... How old are you?

Her: 18

Me: awesome. You go to school around here?

her: blah blah beauty school

Me: *whip out phone* throw your number in my phone, we should grab coffee.

Her: yeah, sounds good

we'll see what happens. This isn't word for word, and the interaction was a little longer, but I have a feeling I should have pushed for the insta date.

Approach #1:

Girl sitting on a bench writing something. I go with my usual opener and talk for it. Some of her teeth were a bit yellow (a big turnoff) and she said she mentioned having a boyfriend so I just thought to have a good conversation and eject. The good parts were that I was less forthcoming and asked a lot less questions, made assumptive statements, etc. This tweak to my normal game is really working some wonders.

Approach #2:

I see these two very hot blondes walking slowly and open them in the street. Hilariously, a couple of guys come out and one of them goes "damn." But they don't dare approach them and walk forward, making the ridiculous excuses. I laughed inwardly and just thought "watch this, suckers."

I open both of them, make some assumptive statements. They're from Norway. One of them is just gorgeous with huge blue eyes (oh how much of a sucker I am for these). I'm extremely proud of myself because I just out and out dominated that frame. The hotter one is into me instantly and her friend (who was no slouch) seemed to telegraph that she was being left out with her body language, even when I included her.

I shook their hands, remarked I liked their outfits, got them to twirl for me (does that make me sexist? ) as I'm holding their hands. It was great. They walked with me for a few blocks. I rambled with them and we talked about going to a coffee shop and if there was one right there I would have been successful but alas there was not. I didn't want to buy into the friend's frame so I directed them to a nearby one and decided to come home.

The hotter one offers me her number immediately when asked (friend wouldn't give me hers, lol). Here's the problem though - she just arrived here and hasn't paid for her phone yet so my calls or texts can't go through. I tried to get her email or some other thing but this is where I began faltering and the frame turned against me. Think I lingered there too long. =/

I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any suggestions open but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a dead end.

This is what they mean when they say how frustrating game can be. Had circumstances been slightly different this would be an open and shut case. If she was alone this would have been an instant date and a very easy number close. Alas, I am not sure how this may be recovered (once more, any suggestions welcome ).

So I'm pissed but happy at the same time. Pissed because these little things have bitten me in the ass on more than one occasion (the world really is a cockblocker, as Tuth said). On the other hand I'm elated because these were two very hot girls (including one of the hottest I've ever approached) and I just totally dominated the scene. This would never have been possible for me a year ago and just shows all the new guys and lurkers still suffering from approach anxiety just how much is possible if you embark on and dedicate yourself to self-improvement in all things.

I'm not a fan of blondes. I have a strong preference for brunettes, and will choose a cute brunette over a cute blonde, 95% of the time.

Today however I saw a blonde girl that made me throw my preferences out the window.

Thin, 18 year old, dutch blonde hair with pale skin. Finely done make-up. A strong resemblance to Avril Lavigne, but her young age and less dependence on makeup to look her best made her more attractive.

I did not do anything special to start a conversation. I followed her on the transit, sat near her, and within 15 seconds asked her 'are you also a student at (my university)?'

Asked her about her friday. She was receptive to conversation and I quickly got her engaged and on to more personal topics, had her asking questions and having genuine interest.

I intentionally allowed a couple silences and she filled them with questions ("so, are you..")

I pulled out my laptop so it didn't seem I was solely giving her my interest. She pulled out a notepad and pen but did not get any writing done.

She gave a couple laughs, it was a warm conversation. Her background was dutch. Game of thrones came up and she said she has heard multiple times how she looks exactly like daenerys. Here's where most guys would say 'oo yeah I could see that for sure'

Instead I said 'oh really, daenarys is kinda crazy'

I asked her name, replied pleasure, and she asked mine in return. All moving well.

Told her we should hang out sometime, my stop was coming up. '... Im kinda seeing someone'. Damn. She said it with an expression as if she just remembered she has a guy. I was surprisingly cool in my response, since I haven't had this said in a while 'cool. are you happy?' She said yeah. I made a couple comments on relationships after that but those were negligible.

Told her nice to meet you have a good weekend, warm good bye. I walked away with a smile.

Those that know me or are familiar with some of my posts know my ultimate goal right now is quality. I'm on the right path.

And ultimately, there are no rules! I didn't think it reasonable to ask her about her shoes or her jacket or scarf this time, so I just went with a 'whats up' kind of opener.

Used to be great at approaching and getting numbers. Since I graduated college, got a job, and moved to a mid-sized town my IRL approach game went to shit. No time to approach due to my son, my job, and my girlfriend. I'm great at closing, and good at using online game to get numbers. Since I recently became unemployed I've decided to go out and approach at least 30 women in 30 days irl.

1/30/15 -

1.) Went to walmart to return a broken belt and wifi adapter. Cute girl in front of me in line. Small with long curly blonde hair, incessantly staring at her phone. Younger guy got in line behind me to return a small tire. We joked around because neither of us knew what the tire went to. Tried to include the chick in the convo: "So what are you here to return", etc. Got no buy in, gave me short one word answers. A cashier pulled me to another register to process my return. No number.

2.) Went to local university. Walked by a sweet innocent looking undergrad. Made a comment about her purse, said my sister had the same one. Exchanged a few sentences; but no real buy in. In retrospect I think she may have been shy. She had the innocent girl next door type of look as opposed to a sorority girl. Sensing I was getting no traction I walked on. But looking back I should have pushed harder. Even if I had to carry the conversation. I'm a salesman, the product I'm selling is myself; so if I want to get anywhere I have to give my pitch and go for the kill even if I get turned down.

3.) Walking to the registrars office. Saw a cute blonde with nice legs. She had earbuds in. I flagged her down and she took out her earbuds. I asked her where to go and she gave me directions. She was headed the same way. We talked about her major, and how much longer she had left. We both entered the elevator and were vibing. I was headed to the 3rd floor and she was headed to the 4th. Things were going well and I should have went for the kill, but my floor came up and I got cut short. Looking back I should have stopped the elevator and went for the Matt Damon departed elevator close. But I didn't think of it, and I wouldn't have had the confidence at this point anyway.

Departed Number Close: http://youtu.be/8-5z24vJAjo

4.) Get my unofficial transcripts at the registrars office. See another cute blonde in yoga pants and a Navy T-shirt. Talk to her about how I was in the Navy, where I was stationed, where I traveled, etc. Was going well. Then when the time to ask for her number came I pussied out and said: "Well nice meeting you! Good Luck" because people were looking.

The Good: Once I warmed up I seemed to be getting better. The women were more receptive, and these were attractive women.

The Bad: I passed up at least a dozen chances to approach while walking around because of approach anxiety.

The Ugly: Even when things were going well I didn't go for the kill. I need to work on my killer instinct. Because of this from now on if I'm getting even a little bit of traction an approach won't count if I fail to ask for the number.

So I did my 5 for the week. They were fairly interesting. Got one number.

I met up with Octavian for 2 of them.

I also "soft" approached 3 other chicks but never pushed so not counting those.

I'm too tired to post about it now but will soon.

While I was moving from one to the other approach, I was thinking

#1 - shit I have to buy Octavian drinks if I don't do my 5 for the week
#2 - man I can't let the RVF forum/brotherhood down.

And, shit, it helped .

Also, thanks Travesty444 for the motivation.

I don't do much night game but I'll post my first approach of the night.

I spot two girls, one is a middle eastern looking five and the other a hard 7 Asian.

Me: you know, I'm the one responsible for those crop circles in England. (Line Seinfeld uses in elevator)

Her: the ones in Russia too?

Me: can't take credit for those. Why don't you have a drink?

Like clock work an orbiter of hers pops up and hands her a glass of Orange juice. She "doesn't drink"

My wing tries keeping her friend engaged but it's an uphill battle.

We chat for a while. I go in for the kiss but she giggles and moves away, lifts her hand to reveal a ring.

Me: let's grab coffee tomorrow
Her: *whispers something to friend* are you good at math?
Me: yeah, im a tutor (lie)

Get her number and have yet to text her.

Night game is more difficult for me. For some reason I lose sight of my goals when I drink.

Critique always welcomed

Wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't text you back.

I personally would have probably moved on to another girl if it was an uphill battle. Not really sure there was anything more you could have done.

One of the first things I do is to look and see if a girl is wearing a ring before I approach.

went to barns and noble today and saw this cute latina brunette (6) looking at books

I notice that she is holding a magizine with the words paleo on it.

I smoothly move over to her and open while looking a books myself.

Me; have you tried that diet?

Her; I just started it

Me; oh ive never heard of that diet what does it consist of?

Her; oh its mostly protein n blaba ba

Me; ya i get it i started my diet a couple of months ago. how long have you been on it

* the whole time I am noticing her body language, she starts to shift towards me a bit and she pushes her hair over her ear as she smiles

Her; oh i just started two weeks ago

Me; it sucks so much when the holidays come along and everyone is eating hella good food and you have to sick to your diet

Her; haha ya i bet

(she starts to look back at the books, she askes me a question but i dont remember what she said)

Me; do you see any good books here?

Her; not really im just looking

Me; what are you reading right now?

Her; ( big smile kinda blushing) 50 shades of gray books

Me; ( smirking) really how do you like it

Her; its really good, there is also a movie coming out of valentines day

Me; really i didn know there was a movie

Her; yea there is haha

(all of this time she is slowly moving away from me towards the front of the store)

She: i have to go to work now

Me; cool see you later

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In retrospect i should have asked her for her number.

No worries .....NEXT

You were right. I've got a lot of work to do when it comes to filtering effectively.

18 year old Aussie model. Instant date.

Did my usual approach/attraction routine. Made generic statements instead of asking questions off the bat, got her to twirl for me as I held her hand, etc.

Once I knew she was hooked I tried to run some more comfort as well as value game. I would goad her into telling me stuff about herself and the like. I should have had some more flirtatious eye contact with her though I think.

Once more logistics bit me in the ass. She's leaving the city tomorrow and was going to meet a friend later, plus an international calling code. I felt myself losing a bit of momentum as I tried to get her contact info but I gave her a genuine compliment about why I wanted to keep in touch with her and she was back in the palm of my hand again (I suggest you try this if you feel yourself in a similar position).

Tried to go for a kiss close by saying it would be cool if we kissed but I understood if she didn't want to. This was my first time trying this. She wasn't comfortable with it. I joked about it and laughed it off. I'm thinking in the future I'm gonna tease by saying something like "You're pretty, but I bet you're not a good kisser" or just giving deep, flirtatious eye contact. Like I said in the other thread, I'm experimenting and transitioning from basic guy game to screening game at the moment.

I also got pictures with her too (even when she was hesitant earlier, that compliment really brought things back under my thumb). Excellent for use in online dating.

Another lesson: I just tend to have real bad luck with really hot girls due to logistical reasons.

Ok, gentlemen, I'm ready to go through and post my last 5 approaches here for the week. Hopefully, you'll see how goals, tenacity and observation come together. On top of that, something to be said about how I forced myself out of a shitty week at the last minute and didn't make excuses. Anyways, this is a long fucking post, but I'm writing it all because I know there are people that can benefit from the detail and hopefully apply it to their own work/game schedules. So I left TL;DRs at the end of each paragraph below so you can browse through faster and get right to the approaches if you want.

Little background on my week at work if you're even interested. I was slated to finally complete the last step in a contract with a multi-billion dollar company. It was supposed to be done Wednesday. I had buyers at the company lined up to do business with me, pending the finalization of this contract. I didn't approach at all thinking I'll be okay and push through. The last step came on Wednesday and there was an error in the contract amendment. I was angry, and it showed. The procurement people so far have been a bunch of incompetent monkeys. This thing sat on their desk for 3+ weeks and now when they got to it, they fucked it up and I had to send it back to get on someone's desk again. My mind wandered into anger and I applied this anger to most situations including cold calling. My attitude was showing through and my frustration was evident and people noticed. TL;DR: An expected deal not going through made me angry and it affected my attitude for the entire rest of the week.

Game wise, I am supposed to do 5 approaches per week. I believe the cycle starts Monday and ends Sunday. I mentioned this but, I buy Octavian drinks and have to call or text him if I didn't meet my goal; same for Octavian vice versa. I don't ever want to send that text or make that call. When we talk about our week, I want to tell him how the approaches went and how I pushed through them. That's accountability for you. And we both keep each other in check. I do get the feeling that I need him more than he needs me in this respect. Anyways, I didn't even do one for the week by Thursday. I was too anxious due to the frustration and not thinking very positive. Positivity is an important part of game and I forgot that because of a situation I had no control over. TL;DR: I took a situation from work and turned let my resulting negative attitude (bad in itself) affect my tenacity to approach.

Ok, Finally, the approaches: Now it's Friday. No "real" approaches. The only one that came close was an approach I did at Chipotle on Thursday asking a girl in line about her coat and rambling about it (but without going for the number; so not counting it). So, here I am hoping that last one could have counted and beating myself up for it. I was staring at my desk stressed out, pressured and not putting as much thought into work. The week is almost over and I still have 5 left. It's lunchtime now. I head out to Chipotle (don't ask why I hit up the semi mexican staple two days in a row; blame it on desire of protein).

Approach #1 (that counts) -- Late 20's 6.5, maybe 7 by face blonde
I'm in line at Chipotle waiting to order a Burrito bowl thinking how I'm going to knock these 5 out. I always look behind and forward in line at Chipotle (or any store) to see if the girl is cute. I realized this time (even from my Thursday semi-approach) observation is key.

Me: [After noticing a weird badge on her coat that looks like an EMT badge; knowing damn well it's probably not, pointing to the badge] Are you an EMT?
Her: [Laughing lightly] Oh no, this is a "goose island" sign.
Me: Ohhh... haha well EMT is a cool profession..
Her: Haha yeah, but not me
Me: Well, so is the coat warm?
Her: Yeah I think so
Me: You mean even more than North Face? North face is like the pinnacle of warm coats.
Her: Well, this is supposed to be a big brand too..
Me: Where can you get one, like what store?
Her: Well, Nordstrom...blah blah blah...
Me: Oh..(order time came up and I had to order)
[She also orders after as she's behind me; This Chipotle is fast so couldn't really hold the conversation during ordering. I am done with getting the food and paying and pick up my napkins slowly, fiddle with my phone a bit and as I see her from the corner of my eye, start walking a foot in front of her (hopefully innocuously) and open the doors and as she walks right behind...]
Me: Hey, I'll be honest, the reason I spoke to you was because I thought you were attractive and just had to say hi..
Her: [sort of a half smile, maybe annoyed expression, holding up her left hand] Well, I'm married.
Me: uhh...well, have a nice day.

Suggestions are welcome on this one. I think I did what I could but ramble could have been a bit more solid. In line, I do think indirect is the way to go but like I said, suggestions welcome.

Approach #2 -- Russian girl with a nice body, a 6, maybe 5.5 because of her teeth
I had a few drinks for "beer friday" at work to take the edge off. Left to meet Octavian at a nearby shopping area. He only had an hour but I thought it would be nice to share some of the week and maybe retrieve some motivation from a fellow RVF member, given I felt so shitty. Octavian spotted a Russian. I asked if he was gonna approach and I think he said he "didn't see the face." His standards are high. So I said I'll do it.

Me: [Walking up behind her before she runs into a store, but as she walks into one, walk slightly in front of her on the left and..] Excuse me, I just saw you and I just had to say hi.
Her: [Turning, confused, in a russian accent] Well, thank ... you.. [kept walking forward but at this point, I realized what she looked like and she wasn't too cute]

I think I still should have maybe pushed a bit further but for whatever reason didn't pass the boner test too well. So I let it go partially because of that. Also, partially was due to the anxiety of it really being one of the first direct approaches of the week.

Approach #3 -- Blonde 7
Myself and Octavian strategically situate ourselves where we can see the people coming up the stairs from the side. It's easier to run up to them and approach innocuously like you didn't see them coming up. A blonde up and me and Octavian notice. I get up because I botched a previous one and didn't approach.

Me: [Runs behind her as she goes to the directory looking for a store. I pretend to as well. I observe her hat.] That is a unique hat, where did you get it ?
Her: Oh thanks, I got it from xxx [smiling]
Me: Is that like the yyy store .. or
Her: Kind of .. yeah
Me: Well, if you don't mind, how much did it cost [running out of stuff to say; for whatever reason, cute blondes fuck with my head.]
Her: Oh ... zzz amount..
Me: [As a last resort] Well, you know what, I'll be honest, I actually couldn't let you go without saying hi.. didn't really need to know about the hat.]
Her: [Giggling] Well, hi.. I'm going to this store, want to walk with me?
Me: [surprised in a way] Sure...
Me: So let me guess, you're from Chicago?
Her: Nope New Orleans..
Me: Oh..well, I used to be stationed in Biloxi for a little while..
Her: Oh, I'm sorry (smiling)
Me: Well it wasn't too bad before the hurricane [note the frame problem here, gents]
Her: Sure..
Her: [After some blah blah from both] This is my store..
Me: Well, how can I get a hold of you?
Her: Umm, I have a boyfriend.
Me: I understand, look give me your number and I'll call you...umm [stutter] I mean text you, if you don't text back I'll get over it; but if you do, maybe something magical will happen.
Her: Well, if I give you my number I'm not gonna text you back.
Me: [Letting it go at this point] Well, ok have a nice time.

This approach was interesting to me as I realized for the first time that I lost frame with the Biloxi comment and possibly concurrently failed a shit test.

Approach #3 -- Black 7.5 on the street
For whatever reason, I can vibe much better with hot black girls than white girls. My background and assumptions have a lot to do with it. Nevertheless, Octavian is now gone on a date (player he is) and I'm back on the street walking up and down Michigan avenue at about 7 pm. There is a good deal of traffic but not too many hot girls walking. And I'm dead tired from the week. Finally spot this black cutie. Rare in these parts.

Me: [Walking and standing next to her at a stop.] Hey do you know which way wacker is? [This is all I could come up with and realize in a split second how much that sucks because it's behind me and I'm walking in the wrong direction.]
Her: Well you're walking in the wrong direction, it's behind you!
Me: [in a split second, I think, "fuck, how am I going to get out of this." I come up with some place that "may" be in the same direction as she's walking.] Well, I was trying to get to the Disney store, need to buy something for my nephew (that doesn't exist).
Her: Oh.. well that's this way where I'm headed too actually. I'm getting something for my niece..
Me: Well, I'll walk with you then..
Her: Cool
Me: So let me guess, I notice you have an accent, it's different.
Her: Well, I'm from St. Louis..
Me: I know I noticed a st. Louis accent haha
Her: Smiles a bit.. blah blah
Me: blah blah
[At this point, we go in the disney store together and I pretend to pick shit out for my nephew and she shows my stuff to choose for her niece. We chat for about 5 - 10 minutes. Then I realize another basic game tool in my pocket, my friend "false time constraint." I thought about how much I should hang because I was having a hard time keeping the conversation going. Finally, I just say 3..2..1]
Me: [Looking at my phone] Hey I've gotta get out of here, good luck with the shopping. We should hang out sometime. Give me your number.
Her: [Takes my phone and puts her number in] You'll realize I'm bossy... (smirking)
Me: [Thinking wtf but anyway] Hmm, I don't know, in that case this may not work out.. [pulled it out of nowhere really]
Her: Can't be pessimistic so early.. maybe you were the one hitting on my walking in the wrong direction and going to the exact same store.
Me: Hey I'm the one that mentioned disney first..
Her: True..
Me: Maybe it won't work out but maybe it's destiny (smiling and leave).

A day later, I thought about it and I was kind of struck by a simple question. "Was I gamed?" I won't know for sure but it'd be interesting to hear people's thoughts.

Approach #5 -- Blonde 8 walking on the street
Girl was hot, wearing these tight yogaish pants and with an obvious bitch shield. She walked past me. I thought about it, waited, contemplated. Then said fuck it and went behind her. Luckily, she was at a stop light waiting. Walked to the side of her, looked at her and consciously in a higher voice.

Me: Hey, I just saw you and couldn't let you go without saying hi..
Her: Well hi..
Me: So what are you up to tonight?
Her: I'm walking to meet up with my boyfriend.
Me: [Thinking of it like a rejection, obviously] Well, enjoy the compliment then..
Her: Bye..

I know I should have pushed through this one and I didn't. Maybe I was tired and just wanted to get that last approach in or maybe I was just too anxious. Either way, I couldn't come up with a line as quick as I could with the black girl. Suggestions definitely welcome on this one.

In conclusion, I didn't feel the best during these approaches, given the shitty week but did them anyways. It was hard. Really was and given the deadline of Friday (family for the weekend), I wasn't going to go home and tell Octavian I didn't meet my goals. One thing I'm toying with for the future is maybe doing like 2 approaches a day or something to keep the momentum. But that's besides the point if I'm not feeling good and being positive. Momentum is a players best friend especially if he's new. I mean after you do the first one, like Travesty444 said, it's easier.

Anyways, stay tuned for next week's approaches.

Great Stuff Cobra, good to see reports of you Approaching. Before I critique on specific things i want to reiterate how Important it is that you just F...... approach, get to where you don't even worry about the number of Approaches you have done, 100, 1000 who cares.

In this Journey is where you will find the answers you are looking for.

By the way great jump from Indirect to Direct, I really liked your Approach few weeks back when you went in a reataurant and opened the girl at reception.

Good to experiment with Direct, Indirect and a combination of both. Now that you have shown the balls to do direct, I would sugget to calibrate when to deploy the direct mode. just understand you will have higher rejections going direct. I follow a mantra Increase the directness guaging girls Interest Don't really want to start a Direct Vs Indirect debate as the matter has been beaten to death here.

Your Approaches:

1. Did the best you could, just like you have BF destryer lines, you could have followed up with. Are you happily married ? Is there any body who he is happily married ? You got nothing to loose by staying in a set just a tad longer.

2. That was a hurried approach, you are past the 3 second rule thing, Scan, Observe and approach with stealth.

3. you did the best you could.

4. Best of the 5 approaches and great line "It might not work out" . You need to show the same humor, vibe with White girls , latinas etc as well. Do you feel like you have DHV over black girls and not White girls ?

5. Again try to last in the set a tad longer.

Happy Hunting, I want to see 5 more before the end of the day

I'm back at the mall. I cut through macy's to get to the main section of the mall and see a cute latina, about 19, that look like a solid, light skinned 8. I walk over and open and it's going well but it turned into a blow out. Who cares? First one of the day.

I'm passing another store in which I see a girl who fits my "ideal girl" image. She's gotta Zooey Deschanel thing going on.

me: are you the manager?

her; Yeah, whats going on?

me: you guys hiring?

her: blah blah

me: cool, I just moved out here blah blah blah

her: from where?

me: down south, you don't really seem like you''re from here either

her: nebraska!

me: wow. no wonder you dress so nerdy

her: haha not everyone dresses like that there!

we talk for a while and she eventually starts asking more questions and I ask less... seemed good

me: okay let's go out some time

her: uhh I have a boyfriend in the armed services

me: you can never have too many friends!

her: haha you're right! my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx

She totally backed out though when we spoke later. She didn't want to "risk" cheating.

NEXT!