I have seen a guy ride in on a elephant in India. They are crazy big. I am more curious about who took the wedding bill in the video haha in India its quite common that the brides family pays for the wedding
What do Sikh families think of their sons and daughters marrying Westerners? I always thought they were a pretty endogamous group of people, like Orthodox Jews or Gypsies where the families generally don't approve of marrying outside the culture. Or maybe they make an exception of she's white and blonde?
Also, can we refer to people from that part of the world as South Asians(Indians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, etc) rather than "brown people". People in Latin America also refer to themselves as "brown" as could people from N. Africa and even many people of sub-saharan descent.
(05-06-2014 03:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote: What do Sikh families think of their sons and daughters marrying Westerners? I always thought they were a pretty endogamous group of people, like Orthodox Jews or Gypsies where the families generally don't approve of marrying outside the culture. Or maybe they make an exception of she's white and blonde?
Also, can we refer to people from that part of the world as South Asians(Indians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, etc) rather than "brown people". People in Latin America also refer to themselves as "brown" as could people from N. Africa and even many people of sub-saharan descent.
Its different from family to family. My parents doesn`t care as long as they are not muslim(golden rule). Hell my dad wanted me ask out my persian neighbor one time because he thought we would make a good match(she was fine but crazy). But then there the ones who wont have any "diffrent" blood in the family. my cousin wanted to propose to this asian girl. One of the sweetest girls i have met and he went to his parents and asked for the blessing. He got disowned and shit. now he is just trying to repair the damage
(05-06-2014 03:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote: What do Sikh families think of their sons and daughters marrying Westerners? I always thought they were a pretty endogamous group of people, like Orthodox Jews or Gypsies where the families generally don't approve of marrying outside the culture. Or maybe they make an exception of she's white and blonde?
Also, can we refer to people from that part of the world as South Asians(Indians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, etc) rather than "brown people". People in Latin America also refer to themselves as "brown" as could people from N. Africa and even many people of sub-saharan descent.
Sikhs are nowhere near as endogamous as Orthodox Jews or gyspies. Another thing – many Sikh guys do not wear turbans..actually most of them do not. The turban is a sign that a person is devoted to his faith. It’s a bit like a secular Jew vs. an orthodox Jew. The guy who got married only wore a turban for his wedding & is probably similar in attitude like a secular Jew. He was clean shaven in the 2nd part of the video. If he was a devout Sikh then he would never have shaved.
Sikhs don’t really have a problem with their kids marrying westerners. They’d rather they’d marry another Indian, but if not white Is OK. Some Sikhs don’t like the idea of their son or daughter marrying black or Mexican, but this isn’t always true. I’ve been to a Sikh woman/Black American man wedding. Her brother is married to a Mexican. As for east-Asians, well they’re not really on the radar, but I do know of a few Indian male/Chinese woman couples.
It is nothing to do with Sikhs in particular. There are westernized Indians, hypocritical "traditional" Indians, and actually traditional Indians. My parents for example fall under the last category. I am going against their wishes by hooking up with a girl out of wedlock, and even by drinking alcohol. [they personally do not drink]
My parents are so conservative that ideally for me, I would be married at 25, to a girl atleast 5 years younger, of not only Indian descent, but of my own language, Brahman caste and even sub-caste. The reason is that they still believe that a true marriage is an alliance of families, and you would keep the same traditions, food, etc, that have been followed for thousands of years. In this marriage the wife would cook 3 fresh meals a day, every day, and since each sub caste has different ways of preparing the complex curries, that could cause friction between families.
Ideally in this marriage, I would live in a big house in a joint family with my parents, and then eventually with my brother and his wife, and all our kids.
They are also not naive idiots, and know that a lot of these things will not happen because of the realities of today's world, as well as finding job markets, etc. Hell, my own parents had to travel abroad to find different jobs.
This would not be my personal life choice. I used to be a fan getting married to a very semi-conservative young Indian wife by 25, but now the "western plague" has spread to the Indian cities as well. I am also too much of a "wild-child" to be that happy in this life, which would obviously be better in terms of my long term stability. Despite being traditional Indians, my parents would be more "Red Pill" than 99% of the population.
Now, there is also a different plague of Indians, and I do not just mean young Indian guys, but Indian "parents" who were severely fascinated by American culture when they were young in the 70's. They live a double life of being fascinated by western culture, and thus looking upon "whites" as superior, while at the same time faking a false traditionalism and connection with Vedic traditions and spirituality to show to actual traditionalists their "piousness" or some BS.
It is a severe challenge to live in shit and not be affected by it, and this is what these false people try to prove to gain "traditionalist street cred".
These are the seeds of the "IRT". It is from the attitudes of these parents, who grew up in the freshly post colonial India that weak men come from who are lost - who do not have the strong backbone of Vedic traditions, and try to fit into a Western world which they were not "born" into. Even if they were physically born in the West, they were not brought up into the culture, and have this half-way culture which leads them belonging to no culture at all. These people are weak and extremely insecure.
These people try to drink and party and be "American", but conveniently use Indian chastity as excuses when they fail. These men are trolls to you guys, but they are especially trollish and detrimental to other Indian men who are actually confident in their own skin.
I don;t like these type of men very much, but growing up I knew and was "friends" with a lot of them. Who I can not truly stand however, are their parents, who are insufferably tryhard.
An Indian wedding is huge because it is supposed to represent a connection of families, and of two soul for 7 lifetimes. Sadly these extravagant 4 day affairs have become popular in the west, especially among white girls, because they are the ultimate form of attention whoring. They would be very lucky to last 7 years, never mind seven lifetimes.
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Anyways, that was my incoherent rambling. Hopefully it has shed some light on the problem. Perhaps a couple weeks from now I will be drunk and shed some more light on the popular IRT condition.
(05-06-2014 05:03 PM)Slim Shady Wrote: [...] you would keep the same traditions, food, etc, that have been followed for thousands of years.
Btw, you do know that the Portuguese introduced the chilli pepper to India about 500 years ago? It's from the New World.
I don't want to sound like Dwight Schrute, but I thought I'd call you out on that.
You realize that there are other spices besides chilli peppers right........the whole reason Columbus even sailed was to get Europe more of the exotic spices they could only get through the Silk Road.
(05-06-2014 05:03 PM)Slim Shady Wrote: It is nothing to do with Sikhs in particular. There are westernized Indians, hypocritical "traditional" Indians, and actually traditional Indians. My parents for example fall under the last category. I am going against their wishes by hooking up with a girl out of wedlock, and even by drinking alcohol. [they personally do not drink]
In the UK many Punjabis drink too so there’s no barrier between them socializing with westerners & drinking alcohol.
I get the sense that in the US that Indians are seen as “other” so it’s a bit harder for them to fit in..then again that’s not an acceptable excuse. I know Indian-American guys who do very well with women.
In the UK they been there for a few generations now so they’re pretty mainstream. In fact Indian food is so normal in the UK that British pubs in Los Angeles have Indian food on the menu.
(05-06-2014 08:16 PM)hwuzhere Wrote: Btw, you do know that the Portuguese introduced the chilli pepper to India about 500 years ago? It's from the New World.
I don't want to sound like Dwight Schrute, but I thought I'd call you out on that.
I think India was main source of pepper back in the day.
(05-06-2014 05:03 PM)Slim Shady Wrote: It is nothing to do with Sikhs in particular. There are westernized Indians, hypocritical "traditional" Indians, and actually traditional Indians. My parents for example fall under the last category. I am going against their wishes by hooking up with a girl out of wedlock, and even by drinking alcohol. [they personally do not drink]
In the UK many Punjabis drink too so there’s no barrier between them socializing with westerners & drinking alcohol.
I get the sense that in the US that Indians are seen as “other” so it’s a bit harder for them to fit in..then again that’s not an acceptable excuse. I know Indian-American guys who do very well with women.
In the UK they been there for a few generations now so they’re pretty mainstream. In fact Indian food is so normal in the UK that British pubs in Los Angeles have Indian food on the menu.
(05-06-2014 08:16 PM)hwuzhere Wrote: Btw, you do know that the Portuguese introduced the chilli pepper to India about 500 years ago? It's from the New World.
I don't want to sound like Dwight Schrute, but I thought I'd call you out on that.
I think India was main source of pepper back in the day.
Why was I quoted for that O_O. I was correcting Surreyman, but yes pepper, oregano, and other exotic spices were found in India and not the New World.
(05-06-2014 12:16 PM)WalterBlack Wrote: This video will probably make the IRT commit suicide:
The woman is hot - 8.5/10 WB
Welcome to Vancouver, where the IRT phenomenon is mitigated due to the fact that more often then not the local assimilated, yet still traditional, brown population is one of the more alpha groups.
That being said the IRT phenomenon is still seen in people who immigrate here without a solid assimilated group to attach to. Most of the IRTs I see here are mostly FOBs arriving in their 20's, you can encounter them at local colleges and universities.
One thing about some Sikhs is that they smell. Bad. I heard that they don't shave body hair, or armpit or pubic hair and are not allowed to use shampoo because they have to remain in a godly state.
(05-06-2014 01:16 PM)Deluge Wrote: Wow ok. My point was the brown dudes who date out are rarely culturally attuned to their parents background like that at all, so it's surprising they would want a wedding like that in the first place, that hasn't been what I've seen including in my own family. Maybe Indians are different, particularly Sikh's, who are usually more religious and marry out less. I had no clue the white women actually asked for these weddings either.
I can confirm this in Toronto as well. Indian guys (not FOBs either) marrying non-Indian women (white or not) often have traditional Indian weddings from what I have seen.
The guy's family will insist on it. I have been to two like that in Toronto. In one case the guy married a Portugese. First there was a full Indian wedding, paid for by the guy's family. Then there was a full Catholic wedding at a church. In the second case it was an Indian doctor marrying a white girl from Nova Scotia. In both instances though the girl was about a 6 and over 30.
Quote:Both champions are Indian-American. The past eight winners and 13 of the past 17 have been of Indian descent, a run that began in 1999 after Nupur Lala's victory, which was later featured in the documentary "Spellbound."
Any theories on why Indians are dominating spelling bees? It's peculiar that the majority of the winners are Indian when they constitute only 1% of the US population.
(05-30-2014 02:29 PM)speakeasy Wrote: Any theories on why Indians are dominating spelling bees? It's peculiar that the majority of the winners are Indian when they constitute only 1% of the US population.
In retrospect, IRT may have had a lot problems, but his spelling was unimpeachable.
Quote:Both champions are Indian-American. The past eight winners and 13 of the past 17 have been of Indian descent, a run that began in 1999 after Nupur Lala's victory, which was later featured in the documentary "Spellbound."
Any theories on why Indians are dominating spelling bees? It's peculiar that the majority of the winners are Indian when they constitute only 1% of the US population.
(05-06-2014 12:16 PM)WalterBlack Wrote: This video will probably make the IRT commit suicide:
The woman is hot - 8.5/10 WB
Welcome to Vancouver, where the IRT phenomenon is mitigated due to the fact that more often then not the local assimilated, yet still traditional, brown population is one of the more alpha groups.
That being said the IRT phenomenon is still seen in people who immigrate here without a solid assimilated group to attach to. Most of the IRTs I see here are mostly FOBs arriving in their 20's, you can encounter them at local colleges and universities.
Very true. Van is an interesting place when it comes to how Brown guys are perceived. I lot of Indian's sikhs in particular have established a bad boy persona, sometimes actually legit.
There's definitely a good portion of white chicks in Van with a brown fetish.