Just like the story i jeard of my friends indian housemate listening to him fucking. Lmfao

(06-15-2014 11:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 09:36 PM)kosko Wrote:  Fuck the marriage video made me cringe, so much dorky and cheezy stuff.

"Hey let me put little shooter bottles in my best mates shoes, you know so... we can appear bad ass and down a shot before I sign half my earnings away to some frumpy white girl."

Shits wack.

His bride looks like some basic white broad and the heavy wedding day makeup ages her more. She looks 27-34, its hard to tell. But this is the *2nd* best she will ever look to him, so this is telling.

I agree that generally the BC brown guys are quite Alpha. Most of the gangs and drug beefs are between the Asian and South Asian crews. If they ain't down with marrying their own, they got a swath of BC white girls whom want to upgrade in status and income and 90% of the time these dudes have their career/money together, or come from rich/well off families.

**Evey broad looks their second best to a man on her wedding day due to the resources and money she throws at her self to look good that day. The first? IMO when you hit it the first time, or you swoop her for the first time.

I keep hearing about Indians in Canada being so alpha. Why is that? So why are the ones in America socially awkward IT guys and the ones in Canada are allegedly so alpha with white girls throwing themselves at them?

Not everywhere in the States. Here in Houston there are quite a few Indian guys bulking up and becoming alpha. I think it's environmentally based as the guys who are getting laid here tend to be either hipster emo looking guys or guys who lift. Also the massive amount of Indian guys studying to get into college like crazy has left too many IRTs out because their families tend to pick on them due to relatively poorer grade resulting in more of them becoming disillusioned with the culture also causing them to lift and become alpha/do their own thing. So I'd say a mix of both of those things.

(06-15-2014 11:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I keep hearing about Indians in Canada being so alpha. Why is that? So why are the ones in America socially awkward IT guys and the ones in Canada are allegedly so alpha with white girls throwing themselves at them?

There’s a difference because the Indians in Canada and the UK tend to be from more of a blue collar background. They’re villagers who were brought over to provide manual labour for factories. A lot of their parents are not very academically inclined so the kids are not raised to become doctors, nerds, scientists, lawyers etc. They tend to end up working in stores, as plumbers, electricians, mechanics etc. Also a lot of them are Punjabis, and Punjabis have a pretty alpha and macho cultures (due to being the gateway to India and continuous warfare with foreign invaders for most of the last 2000 years). Punjabis are also taller and well built. I know a ton of 6ft+ Punjabis.

I’ve never been to Canada, but there is a big Indian gang problem and all of these guys are Punjabi

Canada gang wars have a punjab connection

Quote:Organised gang activity in Canada involving drug-trafficking and killings has a strong Punjabi connection. Many of these violent gangs have a significant presence of youngsters from the immigrant Punjabi community, mainly Sikhs. More than 100 youth of Punjabi descent have been killed in gang wars in Canada, a country which has a large concentration of Sikh immigrants.

Quote:The Dosanjh brothers are believed to be among the first organised Indo Canadian gangs in Vancouver in the early 1990s. Both the brothers, Ron and Jimmy Dosanjh, who ran the gang, were killed. The killings were linked with the drug turf war led by Bindy Johal, the leader of the notorious gang Indo-Canadian Mafia. Bindy Johal formed a death-squad "The Elite", which is believed to have committed at least 30 murders across the province including such as those of the high-profile Dosanjh brothers. Johal, who lived by the gun, got killed by a former associate, Bal Buttar in 1998. Buttar, in turn, survived a murderous attack, but remains a quadriplegic. The fight for the control of the drug trade saw many killings and murder attempts in the 1990s, with an escalation again in the last couple of years.

The Indians in the US tend to be from more of an educated background & a lot are from South India, where they tend to be shorter and not as well built. Because of the H1-B visa system, which lets in only skilled immigrants, you tend to get the more nerdy Indians coming to the US. I never knew Indians were considered nerdy until I came to the US. They’ve been in the UK for 50 years and are considered pretty mainstream.

I know a lot of guys here are hating on Indian women, but let me tell you one thing – nearly all of them can cook! If you stay away from the spoilt bitch daughter of some rich Indian-American lawyer or doctor, the other Indian women are quite down to earth.

TL DR: You got the nerds in the US.

Quote:I know a lot of guys here are hating on Indian women, but let me tell you one thing – nearly all of them can cook! If you stay away from the spoilt bitch daughter of some rich Indian-American lawyer or doctor, the other Indian women are quite down to earth.

Aside from the upper class/westernized indian bitches, Indian women who come directly from India are indeed pretty humble and submissive. Northern Indian women especially Gujarati women are pretty westernized so they are mostly out of the question for a committed relationship.

South Indian women (Tamil, Karnataka, Andhra) and East Indian women (Bengali, Orissa, Bangladeshi) are the ideal. Yes their skin is darker but shit man, dark is fucking sexy.

A question I ask to the indian members on this board- what do you think it will take for India to transcend it's racism and starting treating everyone as a human being?

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/in...-1.1498783

Quote:Looking to find a husband, make friends, and get ahead at work? Then you need to have lighter skin.
That's the all-pervasive message in India, and it's something that one actress is fighting to overturn.
The new poster girl of the "Dark is Beautiful" campaign, Nandita Das, has called out India's obsession with fair skin -- a prejudice she says has driven some young women to the brink of suicide.

(06-16-2014 08:35 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 11:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I keep hearing about Indians in Canada being so alpha. Why is that? So why are the ones in America socially awkward IT guys and the ones in Canada are allegedly so alpha with white girls throwing themselves at them?

There’s a difference because the Indians in Canada and the UK tend to be from more of a blue collar background. They’re villagers who were brought over to provide manual labour for factories. A lot of their parents are not very academically inclined so the kids are not raised to become doctors, nerds, scientists, lawyers etc. They tend to end up working in stores, as plumbers, electricians, mechanics etc. Also a lot of them are Punjabis, and Punjabis have a pretty alpha and macho cultures (due to being the gateway to India and continuous warfare with foreign invaders for most of the last 2000 years). Punjabis are also taller and well built. I know a ton of 6ft+ Punjabis.


TL DR: You got the nerds in the US.

This is pretty accurate I'm a punjabi male from Canada who was popular in high school and lived in an area with a huge population of Punjabi people, so I have first hand experience. I'm 6'3" tall and many of my punjabi friends are 6 foot + just like you said and well built. The whole white girls throwing themselves at them isn't entirely true though. Many of the white girls don't dig the brown guys because they come across as huge douche bags. Theyre kind of like the guys from the show Jersey Shore except they jump people, get into fights for no reason, try and act tough, get into gang problems, sell drugs and carry weapons lol. Obviously that doesn't include all the brown guys and some punjabi guys absolutely slay but there is a huge negative stereotype of Indian males in Canada. Many of us are actually in university studying to become doctors, lawyers etc. but we still fuck around and aren't nerds. Some of my Punjabi friends did very well with the white girls in high school. Most of the time though the ones who are into them are your typical ED hardy wearing, smoking, into bad guys type of white girls. The typical white girls are more into the white guys for sure, but we can still do alright with them as well. At the end of the day it all really depends on how good their game is like any race, but we are definitely MUCH different from the stereotype portrayed of Indian people on TV. i.e. Apu from Simpsons, Raj from Big bang theory.

The indians who show up in SE Asia are pretty lame too and they usually dress alike with the same short sleeve business casual shirts, pot bellies, and ugly mustaches. They are generally rude like the mainland Chinese and Russians and are disliked by the locals everywhere they go. Some places in Thailand have "no Indians allowed" policies. Plus they are known for groping female waitstaff and being stingy.

The Vancouver metro, especially the suburb of Surrey, has attracted an Indian population predominately from the villages of rural Punjab. These people are from an ethnic-caste group known as "Jatts." They speak the Punjabi language and follow the Sikh religion. They have a reputation for being a combative and belligerent ethnicity and, until recently, were highly over represented in the Indian military. More than other Indians, they take interest in combat and contact sports. I wouldn't call them "alpha" in the sense of pulling women or being at the top of the social-status ladder, but they're completely the opposite of IRT in that they have a lot of racial pride and are not meek, submissive types.

Until more recently, the Punjabis faced a fairly harsh social climate in Vancouver. The local white population was resistant to them and there was quite a bit of harassment directed towards their ethnicity. Punjabis also faced difficulty in obtaining employment, so they concentrated disproportionately in arduous jobs in the timber industry. So I'd assume that more hardened elements of the Punjabi population were more likely to migrate.

Vancouver is actually somewhat unique in that it has a relatively effete white population and even less masculine population from Hong Kong, but very aggressive Indians. The local Indian guys are referred to as "Surrey Jacks" and tend to be intimidating to other races. Quite a few of the local drug dealers are of Indo-Canadian origin.

Indian kids do well in sports too. The wrestling scene in British Columbia province is dominated by Punjabi kids. They are well represented in soccer and basketball too. Interestingly, the academic drive you see among Indians is typically not that evident among these people.

However, I'd say that the Indian population in the rest of Canada is fairly different. In the Greater Toronto area, which holds the majority of the Indian and South Asian Canadian population, Indians are more similar to what you find in America. It's just Vancouver which is unique. In Toronto and the suburbs (Mississaugua, Brampton, etc.), there's no "tough guy" reputation. Even the Punjabis are significantly more subdued than in Vancouver. They do poorly in sports too.

Different ethnic groups seem to fill the local "bad boy" in different Canadian cities. Toronto has Afro-Jamaicans, Montreal has Haitians and Arabs, Ottawa has Black-Canadians, Winnipeg has Natives, Calgary has Asians, the rural areas have natives and redneck white Canadians. I suppose a lack of local alphas makes Vancouver into one place where an Indian guy can be intimidating.

(06-16-2014 10:54 PM)Jazzman92 Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 08:35 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 11:19 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  I keep hearing about Indians in Canada being so alpha. Why is that? So why are the ones in America socially awkward IT guys and the ones in Canada are allegedly so alpha with white girls throwing themselves at them?

There’s a difference because the Indians in Canada and the UK tend to be from more of a blue collar background. They’re villagers who were brought over to provide manual labour for factories. A lot of their parents are not very academically inclined so the kids are not raised to become doctors, nerds, scientists, lawyers etc. They tend to end up working in stores, as plumbers, electricians, mechanics etc. Also a lot of them are Punjabis, and Punjabis have a pretty alpha and macho cultures (due to being the gateway to India and continuous warfare with foreign invaders for most of the last 2000 years). Punjabis are also taller and well built. I know a ton of 6ft+ Punjabis.


TL DR: You got the nerds in the US.

This is pretty accurate I'm a punjabi male from Canada who was popular in high school and lived in an area with a huge population of Punjabi people, so I have first hand experience. I'm 6'3" tall and many of my punjabi friends are 6 foot + just like you said and well built. The whole white girls throwing themselves at them isn't entirely true though. Many of the white girls don't dig the brown guys because they come across as huge douche bags. Theyre kind of like the guys from the show Jersey Shore except they jump people, get into fights for no reason, try and act tough, get into gang problems, sell drugs and carry weapons lol. Obviously that doesn't include all the brown guys and some punjabi guys absolutely slay but there is a huge negative stereotype of Indian males in Canada. Many of us are actually in university studying to become doctors, lawyers etc. but we still fuck around and aren't nerds. Some of my Punjabi friends did very well with the white girls in high school. Most of the time though the ones who are into them are your typical ED hardy wearing, smoking, into bad guys type of white girls. The typical white girls are more into the white guys for sure, but we can still do alright with them as well. At the end of the day it all really depends on how good their game is like any race, but we are definitely MUCH different from the stereotype portrayed of Indian people on TV. i.e. Apu from Simpsons, Raj from Big bang theory.

The type of Vancouver-area white girls who go for Indo-Canadian/Punjabi men are typically drug addicts from the bad parts of Surrey. Quite a few of them are part-time prostitutes. The Vancouver white girl with a brown fetish almost always comes from the bottom of the ladder. The classier and hotter girls completely avoid them, preferring white and black guys. I should mention that black guys clean up in Vancouver because the small black population makes them into a novelty. A black guy with decent looks and swagger can date really hot white girls in Vancouver.

Vancouver is probably a little easier for dating white girls, just because the local white guys are so passive with women. Many of these white guys date Chinese or Asian girls too, which creates a large number of frustrated white girls looking for boyfriends.

The Punjabi guys who do well with regular white girls are typically high school athletes who gain social status through sports. Unlike in other parts of Canada and America, a lot of the top local Vancouver athletes are of Indian/Punjabi origin. Lots of them play basketball, soccer, hockey, etc. and are often among the best local athletes. I should say one reason, other than the typical Punjabi aggressiveness, is that the local betaish white kids aren't that interested in sports. Outside of Vancouver and British Columbia, the local athletic talent is much stronger. No way could Punjabis compete in Alberta hockey or Toronto basketball.

The point is that excelling at sports places some of these Indo-Punjabi guys in the popular cliques at the high school level, which helps when gaming girls. After high school, these guys tend to just date from within their local Indian/Punjabi community. I've definitely seen quite a few basketball and hockey players date inter racially when in HS. Maybe IRT should've moved to Vancouver for high school and played basketball.

Has the IRT been captured? Many people on this forum have predicted it would only be a matter of time before he goes crazy. This guy is a fan of Elliot Rodger.

Police: Man threatened to kill women at UW

Quote:Keshav Bhide, 23, used YouTube and Google+ to praise Rodger, saying in one message that “everything Elliot did is perfectly justified.”

…

Earlier this month, anonymous threats were made to UW sororities referencing the shootings in California. Chalk outlines were also left outside some UW sororities. It is not clear if Bhide was connected to those incidents.

In his online messages, Bhide ranted against women saying he would make sure he would kill only them. Another commenter told him to “please just call an escort service,” and gave details for how he could avoid losing his life or going to jail.

Bhide responded that he would “execute the same thing" as Elliot Rodger and that he had “no option,” according to court documents. Police said he used the screen name “Foss Dark.”

Bhide is being held on $150,001 bail for investigation of cyberstalking and felony harassment. He is expected to be charged later this week.

It will be interesting see what his motivation was – it seems that he’s doing this because he can’t get laid.

Someone link it if this has been answered, but I'm curious what the full origin story of the IRT is, and how the forum went from having a Indian guy trolling to seeing a pattern of trolling in Indian people.

Damn this thread is 43 pages? Shoutout to my fellow brown players on this forum for holding it down.

(06-18-2014 02:18 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Someone link it if this has been answered, but I'm curious what the full origin story of the IRT is, and how the forum went from having a Indian guy trolling to seeing a pattern of trolling in Indian people.

Here's the story -

There's an Indian kid in Atlanta with massive anxiety about how being Indian is hurting his chances with women. He went to an enormous number of forums, complaining about how women dislike Indian guys and asking if it's possible for an Indian guy to do well with non-Indian (Latina and white) girls. No matter how many reassurances people provided him, he kept asking the same question over and over.

The kid started his trolling around 2008. Then I think in 2010, Roosh wrote about the totem pole of racial attractiveness. http://www.rooshv.com/totem-pole-of-race...ctiveness. I think that triggered some type of severe mental breakdown in him, making the kid even worse. His forum trolling went to insane heights after that. He also started some type of online feud with Roosh after that article. I think he even started a fake online blog devoted to destroying Roosh.

From 2008 until today, all this kid does is go to online forums and repeats the same questions about Indian guys and dating. He's been spotted in probably close to a 100 different forums. He's been banned here and at an enormous number of other forums. The kid is seriously nuts.

He's made the same topic in so many forums that he's an online celebrity now. It's sad and hilarious at the same time.

By the way, the whole Indian race troll thing seems to be going on in the United Kingdom too. Apparently there are British IRTs.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthre...?t=2480029

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthre...?t=1356845

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthre...?t=1700556

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthre...?t=2055666

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthre...?t=2547104

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=153541991

Apparently there's a mini-celebrity British-Pakistani race troll on forum.bodybuilding.com who complains about his race makes him insecure about dating. He's so obsessive that
he's been banned multiple times over the last few years. Unlike our IRT, this British-Pakistani troll is not anonymous.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=155735753

(06-18-2014 08:21 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:18 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Someone link it if this has been answered, but I'm curious what the full origin story of the IRT is, and how the forum went from having a Indian guy trolling to seeing a pattern of trolling in Indian people.

Here's the story -

There's an Indian kid in Atlanta with massive anxiety about how being Indian is hurting his chances with women. He went to an enormous number of forums, complaining about how women dislike Indian guys and asking if it's possible for an Indian guy to do well with non-Indian (Latina and white) girls. No matter how many reassurances people provided him, he kept asking the same question over and over.

The kid started his trolling around 2008. Then I think in 2010, Roosh wrote about the totem pole of racial attractiveness. http://www.rooshv.com/totem-pole-of-race...ctiveness. I think that triggered some type of severe mental breakdown in him, making the kid even worse. His forum trolling went to insane heights after that. He also started some type of online feud with Roosh after that article. I think he even started a fake online blog devoted to destroying Roosh.

From 2008 until today, all this kid does is go to online forums and repeats the same questions about Indian guys and dating. He's been spotted in probably close to a 100 different forums. He's been banned here and at an enormous number of other forums. The kid is seriously nuts.

He's made the same topic in so many forums that he's an online celebrity now. It's sad and hilarious at the same time.

Without the original Indian Race Troll (the guy with the glasses and the bad haircut who kept appearing on here on the first of every month), I doubt this thread would even exist.

There's a Punjabi-Indian race troll here.

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=334417

A second Punjabi troll here.

http://forums.ratedesi.com/showthread.php?t=332214

and another Punjabi Indian Canadian race troll here.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=156321773

By the way, all these guys are different from our original IRT.

Which introduces an interesting possibility - there are multiple IRTs. They seem to operate across nations - Canada, America, the UK.

It's a global phenomenon.

There has to be something to the IRT phenomenon. If so many men are finding it impossible to get the white girl of their dreams, then it can't be a coincidence.

Is it wrong that my troll radar goes off when newbies aggressively post in this thread.? I mean it seems a bit try hard before establishing a persona on the forum.

Someone else (maybe Slim Shady) also called this out already but keeps happening.

Seems to be a trend. This just may be the most trolled thread out there if you look at all the bans.

Maybe I'm just being petty and delusional given the hater presence against us lately.

(06-18-2014 10:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  There has to be something to the IRT phenomenon. If so many men are finding it impossible to get the white girl of their dreams, then it can't be a coincidence.

Why is it so difficult to believe that ''white'' girls are just not attracted to the Indian looks and for some (if not most) guys there is nothing game can change about this? If we somehow surgecally removed the brain of one of the leading characters of the manosphere, or a game genius, or an international playboy or some RSD cult leader, and put it inside the head of a dark skinned short Indian guy, and then put this guy in a country like Russia, how much difference do you think it would make? I think the biggest cause of IRT phenomenon is that the manosphere is looking at it from the wrong angle. When an Indian guy is asking ''are white girls not attracted to the Indian guys?'', we should assume this question is rhetorical. And instead of saying
'' No dude, this is not true. It's because of your introverted culture and your lack of confidence or your accent or your mentality etc.''

We should be saying this:

''Yes, it sucks to be you. Life is not fair''
After all, this IS what they want to hear. This is the reason they open hundreds if not thousands of threads over the same damn question.

I'm not saying Indians cant do well with white girls. If an Indian guy is doing well (and there are many, especially on this forum), that's great for him. But if he is not doing well and instead being an IRT, we should assume that this is for a good reason.

Then IRT will be more satisfied with the conclusion, being relieved over the fact that it's not some huge mistake they are unaware of, it's just life. And they will move on from this question and try to learn game and adapt to the western culture (as if that's a good thing).

So this is my idea of a solution to the IRT. Being more realistic and direct to the IRT once and for all might, just might make a positive change.

(06-19-2014 12:58 AM)Cobra Wrote:  Is it wrong that my troll radar goes off when newbies aggressively post in this thread.? I mean it seems a bit try hard before establishing a persona on the forum.

Someone else (maybe Slim Shady) also called this out already but keeps happening.

Seems to be a trend. This just may be the most trolled thread out there if you look at all the bans.

Maybe I'm just being petty and delusional given the hater presence against us lately.

A lot of guys who join this forum are readers of Heartiste, reactionary blogs and other white nationalist/ white supremacist blogs. If this was a thread about black or hispanic trolls, there would be much more racism.

2014 has been a phenomenal year for the forum, except for membership. We have too many 'I'm white so everyone else sucks' members joining.

Samseau Wrote:There has to be something to the IRT phenomenon. If so many men are finding it impossible to get the white girl of their dreams, then it can't be a coincidence.

Light-skinned girls are pedestalized in India. When they come to America, FOBs realize they can get with these girls without being married. Since they have no game, they get desperate and start race-trolling.

There is probably more race-trolling from other minorities in America. Thing is they're more subtle about it. How many times have you heard an Asian guy blame his lack of success with women on his race? How many times have you heard a black guy call white girls racist for not getting with him?

Indians are't subtle about their race-trolling while other races usually are. But I have never heard an Indian guy race-trolling in real life, while I hear it all the time from Asians and Blacks.

Minorities reading this - You will never have it as easy with a girl than guys with the same race/ ethnicity as her but with game and style, you can get with any girl of any race. Don't complain and fib, approach, build a lifestyle and your race will become a tiny, instead of moderate, disadvantage.

(06-19-2014 12:58 AM)Cobra Wrote:  Is it wrong that my troll radar goes off when newbies aggressively post in this thread.? I mean it seems a bit try hard before establishing a persona on the forum.

Someone else (maybe Slim Shady) also called this out already but keeps happening.

Seems to be a trend. This just may be the most trolled thread out there if you look at all the bans.

Maybe I'm just being petty and delusional given the hater presence against us lately.

If you're referring to me, I don't believe my posts are trollish.

I find the IRT fascinating because I've been on multiple forums and all of them had some issues with race trolling by Indians/Pakis. On forum.bodybuilding (probably one of the most trafficked forums on the internet), the two worst race trolls are this Indian-Paki kid from Canada ("Desi_guy") and another Indo-Paki kid from Britain ("ibby"). Those two probably are even worse than this IRT who's feuding with Roosh.

Also, as I pointed out, there's extensive British-Indian race trolling of the "Student Room" forums, which are very high in internet traffick from the UK.

Forums.ratedesi.com is another site (very popular with Western-born Indo-Pakistani youth), which was race trolled to absurd levels.

The Yahoo Answers page gets trolled by Indian dudes a lot. IRT is on there, but so are a lot of other Indian dudes. By the way, I remember a couple years ago, IRT made a topic about how he's asked same question over "400" times on Yahoo Answers and hasn't been given a good answer. No, I'm not kidding - he really did post that. Between him and the other IRTs, the place is awash with race trolling.

So it's definitely a phenomenon that's global and has been an issue for a LONG time. I noticed it back in 2006, but it's gotten worse since then. IRT is probably the most prolific and famous of the race trolls, but he is just one of many.

There's no reason to tar all Indians as race trolls though. Plenty do just fine. Especially Indo-Carribean dudes from Trinidad, Suriname, Guyana. Those dudes are ridiculously suave gamers, which I attribute to growing up in sexually liberal environments........ but they tend to be eclipsed by all these Indian/Punjabi/Paki dudes from more sexually repressive environments........ and these dudes tend to come online and create a negative image. If you go to areas in South Florida or NYC with lots of Indo-Carribeans, you'll be impressed.

I have a buddy who went to Sri Lanka a couple years ago. He said the Rastasfarian surfer dudes (all dark skinned by the way) cleaned up with hot Japanese and white tourists.

Edit: Yes I did used to read Heartiste, but I'm not a WN by any means.

(06-23-2014 10:35 AM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 10:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  There has to be something to the IRT phenomenon. If so many men are finding it impossible to get the white girl of their dreams, then it can't be a coincidence.

Why is it so difficult to believe that ''white'' girls are just not attracted to the Indian looks and for some (if not most) guys there is nothing game can change about this? If we somehow surgecally removed the brain of one of the leading characters of the manosphere, or a game genius, or an international playboy or some RSD cult leader, and put it inside the head of a dark skinned short Indian guy, and then put this guy in a country like Russia, how much difference do you think it would make? I think the biggest cause of IRT phenomenon is that the manosphere is looking at it from the wrong angle. When an Indian guy is asking ''are white girls not attracted to the Indian guys?'', we should assume this question is rhetorical. And instead of saying
'' No dude, this is not true. It's because of your introverted culture and your lack of confidence or your accent or your mentality etc.''

We should be saying this:

''Yes, it sucks to be you. Life is not fair''
After all, this IS what they want to hear. This is the reason they open hundreds if not thousands of threads over the same damn question.

I'm not saying Indians cant do well with white girls. If an Indian guy is doing well (and there are many, especially on this forum), that's great for him. But if he is not doing well and instead being an IRT, we should assume that this is for a good reason.

Then IRT will be more satisfied with the conclusion, being relieved over the fact that it's not some huge mistake they are unaware of, it's just life. And they will move on from this question and try to learn game and adapt to the western culture (as if that's a good thing).

So this is my idea of a solution to the IRT. Being more realistic and direct to the IRT once and for all might, just might make a positive change.

As I pointed out in my above post, dark skinned Indian dudes from the Carribean do just fine. As do the dark looking Sri Lankan surfer rastas. There's definitely a niche for cool dark skinned islander dudes with swag......... My advice to IRT is live in South Florida and befriend Carribean Indian dudes. Those guys are a world apart from the IT nerds of America and obnoxious Paki/Punjabis of Canada/UK.

^Agree completely. My own game is modeled off some of the Trinidadian Indian guys I know.

I doubt Cobra was referring to you in his post (I wasn't in mine). Your post on Indian kids in Vancouver is spot-on.

Ok, cool...... but yeah Trini-Indian dudes are fun. It's a very festive and fun culture. Even the girls are very open with their sexuality. Probably because there's been a lot of cultural mixing between Indians, Africans, Chinese, whites, and the indigenous people. A lot of the mixed Afro-Indian girls got amazing bodies and look exotic. If not for the violence and crime, Trinidad might be a good place to travel......... These people are a world apart from Punjabis in Vancouver, Pakis in the UK, Indians in America........... The Phagwa Parade in NYC might be a good place to look.

Food is good too. Try the Trini Rotis sometime.