(06-13-2014 11:26 PM)boycottamericanwomen Wrote: Poverty isn't really such a bad thing because it keeps women well behaved. Look at the behavior of women in 3rd world countries vs that of women in first world countries. Or since we are talking about Modi, look at the behavior of Gujarati women as compared to the behavior of Bengali women. The more wealthy a country or place is the worse women will behave.
Call me a feminist or White-Knight if you must I'd rather have healthy women giving birth to healthy kids than weak women giving birth to weak kids who end up screwing up the gene pool.
Feminism can devastate a country but not nearly as much as poverty. Also, feminism and poverty aren't mutually exclusive. You can have a rich country with a weak feminist movement (Russia) and a poor country with feminism (parts of urban India). I'd like to have a country where people aren't starving and can afford basic luxuries (by Western standards) without feminism.
(06-13-2014 11:26 PM)boycottamericanwomen Wrote: Poverty isn't really such a bad thing because it keeps women well behaved. Look at the behavior of women in 3rd world countries vs that of women in first world countries. Or since we are talking about Modi, look at the behavior of Gujarati women as compared to the behavior of Bengali women. The more wealthy a country or place is the worse women will behave.
Call me a feminist or White-Knight if you must I'd rather have healthy women giving birth to healthy kids than weak women giving birth to weak kids who end up screwing up the gene pool.
Feminism can devastate a country but not nearly as much as poverty. Also, feminism and poverty aren't mutually exclusive. You can have a rich country with a weak feminist movement (Russia) and a poor country with feminism (parts of urban India). I'd like to have a country where people aren't starving and can afford basic luxuries (by Western standards) without feminism.
Russia is an interesting example of a post-feminist society. Feminism began in earnest around the 1920s there, so Russia is about 50 years ahead of us in terms of feminist cultural collapse. This is the ironic point that most people are unable to understand. Feminism destroys itself due to it's effects on society. It works like this:
1. Society becomes wealthy. Men become weak and thus women are given freedom
2. Women destroy society and create armies of bastard children
3. Bastard children grow up to create a hyper-violent society
4. Society is so violent that women are afraid to even leave their houses (and thus feminism becomes mute)
5. Society collapses and a traditional patriarchy takes over again, and thus the cycle resets
We're in between stages 2 and 3 right now. I don't think anyone would argue that America is becoming an extremely violent country, there's a new school shooting almost every fucking day now. That Elliot Rodger kid was a prime example of the kind of twisted individuals feminism creates. While most young men never reach his level of insanity, most young men grow up in a dysfunctional misandric feminist society, and thus they lose all respect for women. It's amazing to see how the antifeminism movement has spread so widely over the past 2 years. Nowadays in the comments section on major mainstream media news sites, men are openly speaking against feminism. This movement is indeed going viral.
I was out at a bar last night, and briefly talked to an Indian dude there, cool guy, with a backwards baseball cap on. Later, I saw him from the back, and his cap read, in thick bold lettering, TROLL.
(06-14-2014 01:31 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: So, I suppose this guy is the most alpha indian in this thread or for that matter, ever.
Someone do some background research on this guy and his methods.
He got married in a country with divorce laws that are biased against men. Doesn't sound very alpha to me.
She seems to be pretty accepting of his culture and he or she has managed to convince her family to accept his culture too. Usually, in such cases, the odds of a divorce are lower than normal.
Regardless, the very fact that he managed to land her makes him stand out. You won't see many (or any) indians being with an 8.5 white woman in an LTR or marriage (mega-millionaires excepted).
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: She seems to be pretty accepting of his culture and he or she has managed to convince her family to accept his culture too. Usually, in such cases, the odds of a divorce are lower than normal.
Regardless, the very fact that he managed to land her makes him stand out. You won't see many (or any) indians being with an 8.5 white woman in an LTR or marriage (mega-millionaires excepted).
Being Indian and dating a cute white girl doesn't make you any more alpha than a white guy dating a cute white girl. Alpha is a state of mind, not a relative term where an Indian beta who dates a white chick is more alpha than an Indian beta who's sexless. This guy pedestalized a girl and legally declared monogamy to her. Doesn't sound very alpha to me.
Not saying the guy was a beta. Just saying that there isn't any proof that he's alpha, besides marrying a cute white chick. Besides, most inter-cultural couples have 2 wedding ceremonies, one with the guy's culture, one with the girl's.
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: She seems to be pretty accepting of his culture and he or she has managed to convince her family to accept his culture too. Usually, in such cases, the odds of a divorce are lower than normal.
Regardless, the very fact that he managed to land her makes him stand out. You won't see many (or any) indians being with an 8.5 white woman in an LTR or marriage (mega-millionaires excepted).
Being Indian and dating a cute white girl doesn't make you any more alpha than a white guy dating a cute white girl. Alpha is a state of mind, not a relative term where an Indian beta who dates a white chick is more alpha than an Indian beta who's sexless. This guy pedestalized a girl and legally declared monogamy to her. Doesn't sound very alpha to me.
Not saying the guy was a beta. Just saying that there isn't any proof that he's alpha, besides marrying a cute white chick. Besides, most inter-cultural couples have 2 wedding ceremonies, one with the guy's culture, one with the girl's.
I disagree. We are talking about LTR and marriage, not dating. You have absolutely no proof that he pedestalizes her. Marrying a girl doesn't mean you are not alpha.
Every reply in this thread regarding that video refers to punjabis like him being alpha. I would like to know how you get a white 8.5 as an indian without being alpha?
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: Usually, in such cases, the odds of a divorce are lower than normal.
I'm interested in how you know this?
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: I disagree. We are talking about LTR and marriage, not dating. You have absolutely no proof that he pedestalizes her. Marrying a girl doesn't mean you are not alpha.
You mean just like you don't have proof that he doesn't pedestalize her. Culture aside, he appears to be an Indian-American dude that hitched up with an American girl. Simple as that.
He is likely going to give her the attention she desires, leaving any remnants of his culture/family pretty far behind, just like most guys that get married in the west. I'm not saying this is true, but I'm saying that's what a lot of American guys that get hitched do.
Lot of times being an American takes over any "cultural" aspects of you because you deal with other Americans more than your culture as in "you're not in India anymore."
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: Every reply in this thread regarding that video refers to punjabis like him being alpha. I would like to know how you get a white 8.5 as an indian without being alpha?
Just like a lot of other non-alpha guys get white girls in this country.
I want to pretend my reverse race troll radar didn't beep on this comment but I won't lie especially given your post count.
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: Usually, in such cases, the odds of a divorce are lower than normal.
I'm interested in how you know this?
Common sense.
If a wife accepts her husband's culture, there is a lesser chance of divorce than otherwise.
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(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: I disagree. We are talking about LTR and marriage, not dating. You have absolutely no proof that he pedestalizes her. Marrying a girl doesn't mean you are not alpha.
You mean just like you don't have proof that he doesn't pedestalize her.
I mean just like I don't have proof that you are not a child molester.
Quote: Culture aside, he appears to be an Indian-American dude that hitched up with an American girl. Simple as that.
Wrong. There is absolutely no proof that either he or she is American.
(06-14-2014 02:04 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: Every reply in this thread regarding that video refers to punjabis like him being alpha. I would like to know how you get a white 8.5 as an indian without being alpha?
Quote:Just like a lot of other non-alpha guys get white girls in this country.
Which is how?
If you want to pretend that his indianness made absolutely no difference at all or that Indians cannot be alpha, you're welcome to your delusions. It does not represent reality, however. The various threads in this forum are ample proof.
Quote:I want to pretend my reverse race troll radar didn't beep on this comment but I won't lie especially given your post count.
"Reverse race troll", LMAO. Now I've heard it all.
My only interest is in learning from his methods and his background, if possible. I don't give a rat's posterior in general about his race, his culture, his religion or any other label you imagine.
(06-14-2014 08:11 PM)buxv67cv Wrote: His previous post on this thread
Look here now, you're using faulty logic and racist assumptions as an excuse to troll Indians. Don't want to argue any further but this thread is for humor and advice, as is the rest of this forum.
You're last quote on methods and 'reverse race-trolling' was racist in itself. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if its IRT trying to make us look bad. I wasn't around when he was but I've read plenty of his posts asking for 'techniques' and such. You sound painfully like him.
There's the IRT stuff, yeah and that unfortunately is justified somewhat given our 42 page thread. But then we have these toolboxes coming in with "he got laid even though he was xxx race. Did he do something special? He has to be alpha."
Indian or not, that's just some general misinformed race trolling that I'll keep calling out because there are some true Indian and other race players on the forum that work hard just like anyone else or even more given the "barriers to entry."
The problem is the Indian social structure/culture and caste system. You are born lucky (chance to be alpha) and have a chance for a good life, or you were born unlucky and your life will be fucked forever.
Have a talk with an Indian guy from India, you can't compare current western culture with Indian culture. No wonder these guys fail, if they want to act in a western environment with a incompatible believe system.
(06-15-2014 11:34 AM)void Wrote: The problem is the Indian social structure/culture and caste system. You are born lucky (chance to be alpha) and have a chance for a good life, or you were born unlucky and your life will be fucked forever.
Have a talk with an Indian guy from India, you can't compare current western culture with Indian culture. No wonder these guys fail, if they want to act in a western environment with a incompatible believe system.
The solution to the problems of both cultures is for each culture to go back to it's traditional roots. Someone told me that India has really gone to shit during the past 35 years as the westernization process began. India trying to imitate western culture is a disaster, because they imitate all the worst aspects of western culture.
To be honest, I have been more and more impressed with Indians I see in the US and I believe they will make a great contribution to this country -- maybe a truly great one.
They seem to me to embody some old-fashioned virtues in a way that is often entirely winning and rarely observed among other people.
The men seem to love their wives and children and spend a lot of their free time with them, without seeming emasculated or henpecked. They strike one as gentle and civilized without coming off as effeminate milquetoasts; they are obviously ambitious and love material things and opportunity without that appearing as vulgar or unseemly.
Their one great weakness seems to be ice cream. Sometimes when I go to my local ice cream parlor it seems to be filled with nothing but Indian families waiting in line for their treat. As weaknesses go, one can do worse.
I hope the Indian dudes on the forum do not mistake the trolling on this thread for something more serious. Speaking for myself, I am delighted with the presence of Indians in this country, and I see great things in store for India itself, and for the extensive and growing Indian diaspora in the US.
Just had a conversation with my mum. We were just talking when out of the blue she says : Son, your not dating a Indian girl right?
Me: no why? Want to set me up ? Or arrange my marriage
Mum: no why should i find you a woman. Go find one yourself. I want to warn you because here is the thing with these girls. They are batshit crazy and yet they want to be treated like princesses without giving anything in return .
Me: why are you telling me this ?
Mum: I want mixed raced babies.
Me : ............
(06-15-2014 12:51 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: To be honest, I have been more and more impressed with Indians I see in the US and I believe they will make a great contribution to this country -- maybe a truly great one.
They seem to me to embody some old-fashioned virtues in a way that is often entirely winning and rarely observed among other people.
The men seem to love their wives and children and spend a lot of their free time with them, without seeming emasculated or henpecked. They strike one as gentle and civilized without coming off as effeminate milquetoasts; they are obviously ambitious and love material things and opportunity without that appearing as vulgar or unseemly.
Their one great weakness seems to be ice cream. Sometimes when I go to my local ice cream parlor it seems to be filled with nothing but Indian families waiting in line for their treat. As weaknesses go, one can do worse.
I hope the Indian dudes on the forum do not mistake the trolling on this thread for something more serious. Speaking for myself, I am delighted with the presence of Indians in this country, and I see great things in store for India itself, and for the extensive and growing Indian diaspora in the US.
Haha, thanks man. Good to know we're doing things right! Waiting for the day the Indian community fully integrates. The Asian community will in 10-15 years, the Indians will in 15-20. In the meantime, race-trolling and racial insecurity will fall dramatically.
Fuck the marriage video made me cringe, so much dorky and cheezy stuff.
"Hey let me put little shooter bottles in my best mates shoes, you know so... we can appear bad ass and down a shot before I sign half my earnings away to some frumpy white girl."
Shits wack.
His bride looks like some basic white broad and the heavy wedding day makeup ages her more. She looks 27-34, its hard to tell. But this is the *2nd* best she will ever look to him, so this is telling.
I agree that generally the BC brown guys are quite Alpha. Most of the gangs and drug beefs are between the Asian and South Asian crews. If they ain't down with marrying their own, they got a swath of BC white girls whom want to upgrade in status and income and 90% of the time these dudes have their career/money together, or come from rich/well off families.
**Evey broad looks their second best to a man on her wedding day due to the resources and money she throws at her self to look good that day. The first? IMO when you hit it the first time, or you swoop her for the first time.
(06-15-2014 12:51 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: To be honest, I have been more and more impressed with Indians I see in the US and I believe they will make a great contribution to this country -- maybe a truly great one.
They seem to me to embody some old-fashioned virtues in a way that is often entirely winning and rarely observed among other people.
The men seem to love their wives and children and spend a lot of their free time with them, without seeming emasculated or henpecked. They strike one as gentle and civilized without coming off as effeminate milquetoasts; they are obviously ambitious and love material things and opportunity without that appearing as vulgar or unseemly.
Their one great weakness seems to be ice cream. Sometimes when I go to my local ice cream parlor it seems to be filled with nothing but Indian families waiting in line for their treat. As weaknesses go, one can do worse.
I hope the Indian dudes on the forum do not mistake the trolling on this thread for something more serious. Speaking for myself, I am delighted with the presence of Indians in this country, and I see great things in store for India itself, and for the extensive and growing Indian diaspora in the US.
Indians in the USA and Europe are generally pretty good people, nice people. But you also have to remember that they are the top 1 percent that successfully escaped India. India has 1.3 billion people and everyone wants to get out of there because it is such a stifling and difficult place to live. The indians you see in the West are the top 1 percent that was able to make their way out of India.
To be fair, there is also a lot of nice indians in India. But there's also a lot of very shitty, very greedy people with zero integrity or character in India. They'll cheat their own family even, merely for a few rupees. And then when you couple such a disgusting mentality with the blatant racism that many people in India possess, you come up with the disgusting combination which many people refer to as the IRT.
I am not really against indians, I am just against people who have no sense of honor, integrity, character, or honesty. Such people can be found in all races and countries, but for some reason, there is a higher percentage of them to be found in India than relative to other places.
With that said, some of my best friends are indians.
(06-15-2014 09:36 PM)kosko Wrote: Fuck the marriage video made me cringe, so much dorky and cheezy stuff.
"Hey let me put little shooter bottles in my best mates shoes, you know so... we can appear bad ass and down a shot before I sign half my earnings away to some frumpy white girl."
Shits wack.
His bride looks like some basic white broad and the heavy wedding day makeup ages her more. She looks 27-34, its hard to tell. But this is the *2nd* best she will ever look to him, so this is telling.
I agree that generally the BC brown guys are quite Alpha. Most of the gangs and drug beefs are between the Asian and South Asian crews. If they ain't down with marrying their own, they got a swath of BC white girls whom want to upgrade in status and income and 90% of the time these dudes have their career/money together, or come from rich/well off families.
**Evey broad looks their second best to a man on her wedding day due to the resources and money she throws at her self to look good that day. The first? IMO when you hit it the first time, or you swoop her for the first time.
I keep hearing about Indians in Canada being so alpha. Why is that? So why are the ones in America socially awkward IT guys and the ones in Canada are allegedly so alpha with white girls throwing themselves at them?
Funny story I was told this weekend....was in a bar in Dubai talking to this 7 and she was telling me all about her day...blah blah blah....she mentioned that she had spent the day on the beach sun bathing....of course I asked her to show me her tan lines and she did later
Anyhow, I was asking her what the beach was like, she said it was ok, until about 5pm when the Indian guys turn up by the bus load....turns out that these guys finish work, go to the beach to look at all the white western women in their bikinis. She said she thought it was cute until she realised what they were doing in the water while watching them....yep...you have guessed it...these guys were having a cheeky little wank while in the water.
So...me acting all cool says to this 7....hmmmm I wondered why the water tasted salty...classic line!
Decided to check out her story and asked the bar man about this...everything she said is true, some beaches in Dubai actually have 100's of Indian men masturbating over white women! It has even been in the local press and some beaches are now families or female only because the problem is so bad.
(06-16-2014 09:20 AM)Welshguy39 Wrote: and some beaches are now families or female only because the problem is so bad.
And now you know why they have female only trains in India. I've actually heard of stories where a younger indian woman will be standing on a bus, and an indian man will be standing behind her. Later when she gets off the bus, she noticed there was some white creamy substance on the back part of her dress.