I only know 1 FOB brown guy whose "made it" here with women, though he wasn't Indian. He doesn't know about "game", he was just a natural player back home. When he moved to the West he already had fluent, accent less English because he went to a very elite private high school, so it took no time at all here for him to start killing it. He told me that trying to get laid back home forced him to learn tight game since it was so difficult, so when he moved here things just went from hard mode to easy. 7 years later and he happens to be engaged to a blonde Polish girl now. So it can be done, but this guy had it very easy for a FOB in the first place.

Dudes like Lothario and Swagger should make threads about what it was like for them learning game as Indian dudes who moved West. I think it would be inspirational for any guys dealing with limiting beliefs and help rehabilitate brown dudes image around here.

(04-13-2014 02:38 AM)Deluge Wrote:  I only know 1 FOB brown guy whose "made it" here with women, though he wasn't Indian. He doesn't know about "game", he was just a natural player back home. When he moved to the West he already had fluent, accent less English because he went to a very elite private high school, so it took no time at all here for him to start killing it. He told me that trying to get laid back home forced him to learn tight game since it was so difficult, so when he moved here things just went from hard mode to easy. 7 years later and he happens to be engaged to a blonde Polish girl now. So it can be done, but this guy had it very easy for a FOB in the first place.

Dudes like Lothario and Swagger should make threads about what it was like for them learning game as Indian dudes who moved West. I think it would be inspirational for any guys dealing with limiting beliefs and help rehabilitate brown dudes image around here.

Honestly I think that's a great idea for a thread.

(04-12-2014 01:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  There are about 5 Indian dudes staying at my "boutique" hotel. They are all in the same room. Every night they eat at the hotel and actually go behind the counter and harass the lady who cooks. They think they are being cute but she tells me in Spanish that they are annoying her non stop.

I haven't left the hotel because I've seen this city inside and out and just want to chill. I'll walk down the street to eat or something and wait for a girl to come over.

*sub note, there is an all girls school less that a block away, they wear the uniforms and what not.

Anyway, I have no idea what they are doing here. They don't leave the hotel either, but they dress up and take selfies with sunglasses on at night in the bar area.

These guys need Bojangles desperately.

Haha, you gonna become my salesman Fisto? I'm free for teaching, i'll give you commission

(04-13-2014 04:10 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 01:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  There are about 5 Indian dudes staying at my "boutique" hotel. They are all in the same room. Every night they eat at the hotel and actually go behind the counter and harass the lady who cooks. They think they are being cute but she tells me in Spanish that they are annoying her non stop.

I haven't left the hotel because I've seen this city inside and out and just want to chill. I'll walk down the street to eat or something and wait for a girl to come over.

*sub note, there is an all girls school less that a block away, they wear the uniforms and what not.

Anyway, I have no idea what they are doing here. They don't leave the hotel either, but they dress up and take selfies with sunglasses on at night in the bar area.

These guys need Bojangles desperately.

Haha, you gonna become my salesman Fisto? I'm free for teaching, i'll give you commission

They are currently all frolicking together in the pool. They may be beyond even you....

(04-12-2014 07:35 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Lothario fits that description very well actually.

(04-13-2014 02:38 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Dudes like Lothario

I just spent a week with Lothario.

Here is what he did to develop his game:

He studied the theory of Game. He read books on attraction, female psychology, puas, etc.

He studied fashion. He dresses very sharp and modern.

He studied veteran playboys. He goes out and games with successful guys.

He approaches like a motherfucker!!! He will pretty much talk to any girl at any time!

He even worked hard on his accent.

He worked on his sense of humor.

He works on his physique.

He does day game, night game, online game, and all other types of gaming.

He attacks his weaknesses

He also has a good job.

That's why he is successful!

(04-13-2014 04:23 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 04:10 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

(04-12-2014 01:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  There are about 5 Indian dudes staying at my "boutique" hotel. They are all in the same room. Every night they eat at the hotel and actually go behind the counter and harass the lady who cooks. They think they are being cute but she tells me in Spanish that they are annoying her non stop.

I haven't left the hotel because I've seen this city inside and out and just want to chill. I'll walk down the street to eat or something and wait for a girl to come over.

*sub note, there is an all girls school less that a block away, they wear the uniforms and what not.

Anyway, I have no idea what they are doing here. They don't leave the hotel either, but they dress up and take selfies with sunglasses on at night in the bar area.

These guys need Bojangles desperately.

Haha, you gonna become my salesman Fisto? I'm free for teaching, i'll give you commission

They are currently all frolicking together in the pool. They may be beyond even you....

You need to troll them. Find out if they can pull in the DR or if the girls are too dark for them. Report back.

Agree with El Mech, report back with your findings Fisto.

(05-06-2012 08:09 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(05-06-2012 07:55 PM)Skrolls Wrote:  I know this won't be popular here but there's an old quote that goes before you criticize someone you should walk a mile in their shoes. Maybe these guys have legitimate concerns. Do any of you think if you'd be pulling as much ass if you switched bodies with an Indian dude? Just saying...
 
 

Why can't they bang Indian girls? There's like half a billion of em!

perfect set up for a jizz shot

(05-06-2012 07:55 PM)Skrolls Wrote:  I know this won't be popular here but there's an old quote that goes before you criticize someone you should walk a mile in their shoes. Maybe these guys have legitimate concerns. Do any of you think if you'd be pulling as much ass if you switched bodies with an Indian dude? Just saying...
 

No, I don't want to walk a mile in your shoes, but we all have to play with the cards with have.

There are many countries that are pretty much off limits to me as a Russian. Gaming chicks in most of Western Europe and pro-western Eastern European countries would be a pretty much a waste of time for me. Not 100% impossible, but just not worth the hassle trying to overcome the negative stereotypes.

However, I don't just sit on my ass and cry about it. I'm working on my game and exploring new territories, new types of girls. I mean, I'm sure a normal Indian dude can get laid in a country like the Philippines or Indonesia. I've seen Indians roll with local girls in Thailand and Hong Kong. It's all about pushing yourself and trying something different.

I was just glancing at the sosuave forum for the hell of it. The original IRT is pouring his guts out over there. While he didn't start this thread, he is dominating it. He is so psychologically fucked up it is unbelievable.


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.ph...stcount=71

Quote:A lot of this is coming from me being around so many of the girls that fit the exact image daily: White, good looking, American, and from a mostly well off background. Then factor in the many bad experiences in the past which I exclusively had with White girls and not many girls of other races and I see it coming back. I know there is something going on where these girls are subconsciously picking up on my insecurity of them but I can't get over it just like that.

Then you also have to consider that girls of this category (White, good looking, American, and from well off families) are not necessarily the kindest type of girls in the world in most cases. A lot of them have their pick of top tier guys.

And this isn't going to get fixed until I start seeing success with girls of this image but that isn't happen until I somehow fix this which is a dilemma. I have never had girls like the kind I am around treat me well, be nice to me, or show any interest in me so the limiting beliefs keep getting worse. What sucks is I feel that no matter what I accomplish I won't be able to get these kinds of girls because they have been trained to hate men of my background.....

Even though most of my bad experiences have come from young White American women, I have had some very few good experiences (and I mean few). I guess I will focus on those and keep the positivity in my life. So much is going well for me right now that for me to be saddened by this is asinine.

Quote:Most women hardly care about race at all if a guy is a high quality guy. White American women from upper middle class areas, suburbs, and upper class areas care a lot about race to the point that they reject guys who happen to be Brown or Asian, have 6 figure salaries, and are above average looking. The White girls you see in sororities at schools like UCLA or University of Florida care heavily about race. I don't even know if they would go for a guy like Mohinder from Heroes, Sanjay Gupta, or Jeremy Lin.

With all that said, I am still attracted to them the most. I am not as into brunettes or redheads as I am blondes. No doubt I have seen some stunning brunettes and even had some success with them, but I just prefer Blondes. Isn't a hair color thing, more of an image thing really.

I have noticed a lot better results with White European girls, some of them had blonde hair too but I guess I am chasing an image. I want the Lindsey Duke, the Hayden Panetierre, or the Heather Graham.

I want the girl that hangs out in popular social circles, happens to be a blonde, and is American. The girl that was in a sorority at her university or is a college girl in a sorority at her school. I know most of them are fake blondes but I want to be a part of that crowd, too late for me to rush a fraternity and I am almost done with school too so I wonder what I will need to do to get those girls after college.

Yet I have no clue how to get that kind of a girl. What kind of circles they run in after college, what kind of guys they like, etc. I also don't know how to be a part of that crowd since so many people in it from my experience aren't that open to allowing outsiders.

I know the kind of girls I like have a lot of negative stereotypes associated with them but I just want to experience being with a girl like that.

I never though IRT would be that cringe worthy. He needs to just stop. Also that moment when Sanjay Gupta has a white wife that is blonde.

The proof.

The Mohinder dude from Heroes has a decent looking polack wife. Also on the show, he was scoring a lot of tail

(04-19-2014 01:11 PM)stg devil Wrote:  The Mohinder dude from Heroes has a decent looking polack wife. Also on the show, he was scoring a lot of tail

This must drive the IRT crazy:



I'm curious, is there even one famous Indian guy in the West who isn't married to a white woman? I know people try to stereotype black guys as crazy for white women, but I can think of tons of black actors that have black wives. I can't think of any well-known Indian in the West that isn't with or trying to be with white chics.

Best IRT move for getting white girls would be to start up a yoga business or just offer free classes.

(04-19-2014 01:31 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Best IRT move for getting white girls would be to start up a yoga business or just offer free classes.

I doubt you're average young chic these days even knows Yoga comes from India. She probably think it's just another expensive, trendy workout routine like Taebo or something. Just like the word "karma" has gotten so deeply entrenched in Western thinking that everyone has forgotten that it's of Indian origin.

The IRT is just so bizarre to me, reading that meltdown. I know guys like Samseau and Scorpion are against diversity. Here is one area they may be right. If IRT had grown up in India, he'd likely be a perfectly normal person with healthy self-esteem who'd have married an Indian woman and probably had a a family by now. But in the West, he's been given an inferiority complex that has fucked him up beyond repair. He'd be better off if he grew up in India and never left there. The dude wants the most unattainable women out there, blonde, American, popular, SEC sorority girls. He goes from forum to forum with literally tens of thousands of posts asking over and over how he can get these girls. He admits they treat him like shit, but he wants one more than anything in the world. It's soooo fucking crazy to me.

(04-19-2014 01:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 01:31 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Best IRT move for getting white girls would be to start up a yoga business or just offer free classes.

I doubt you're average young chic these days even knows Yoga comes from India. She probably think it's just another expensive, trendy workout routine like Taebo or something. Just like the word "karma" has gotten so deeply entrenched in Western thinking that everyone has forgotten that it's of Indian origin.

The IRT is just so bizarre to me, reading that meltdown. I know guys like Samseau and Scorpion are against diversity. Here is one area they may be right. If IRT had grown up in India, he'd likely be a perfectly normal person with healthy self-esteem who'd have married an Indian woman and probably had a a family by now. But in the West, he's been given an inferiority complex that has fucked him up beyond repair. He'd be better off if he grew up in India and never left there. The dude wants the most unattainable women out there, blonde, American, popular, SEC sorority girls. He goes from forum to forum with literally tens of thousands of posts asking over and over how he can get these girls. He admits they treat him like shit, but he wants one more than anything in the world. It's soooo fucking crazy to me.

If he ever gets one then he'll realize the hell he will be in for. I mean so many of us on the forum have been through what can be considered traumatizing in relation to women, but this guy has had no experience of that sort. I'll just be waiting for the day IRT scores and gets treated like shit.

(04-19-2014 01:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  But in the West, he's been given an inferiority complex that has fucked him up beyond repair. He'd be better off if he grew up in India and never left there. The dude wants the most unattainable women out there, blonde, American, popular, SEC sorority girls. He goes from forum to forum with literally tens of thousands of posts asking over and over how he can get these girls. He admits they treat him like shit, but he wants one more than anything in the world. It's soooo fucking crazy to me.

The original IRT is obviously beyond any help. He has made it about his race in his head and goes from forum to forum trolling. He can make it about his race all he wants but I seriously doubt he has any game at all. One could say that he probably doesn't even approach non-white women or average looking white chicks but I seriously doubt he could get laid even if he tried.

Given how fucked up he is mentally it's clear why he struggles with women (white or not).

IMO, he would just be as fucked in India. He would go after the hottest chicks there as well (who are usually fair-skinned) and because he couldn't blame his race he would probably blame his class/social standing or find something else to blame.

Agree speakeasy. He would be better off messing with the artsy, enlightened, more open minded white girls at univesities. Maybe take some theater and art classes. Lolz at him obsessed with sorority Barbie dolls. Those are probably the hardest to get in America as a minority.

(04-19-2014 04:17 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Agree speakeasy. He would be better off messing with the artsy, enlightened, more open minded white girls at univesities. Maybe take some theater and art classes. Lolz at him obsessed with sorority Barbie dolls. Those are probably the hardest to get in America as a minority.

I doubt he could get more "artsy, enlightened more open minded white girls" if he even tried. It seems like he has no game and confidence.

(04-19-2014 01:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 01:31 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Best IRT move for getting white girls would be to start up a yoga business or just offer free classes.

I doubt you're average young chic these days even knows Yoga comes from India. She probably think it's just another expensive, trendy workout routine like Taebo or something. Just like the word "karma" has gotten so deeply entrenched in West.

The casual ones, yes. But, there are a lot of them that get into it for the spiritual aspects, meditation, chanting, finding your chakras, connecting mind, body and spirit etc. etc. They are well aware of the origins of yoga. In fact many of them travel to India to seek "enlightenment" etc. Also, many of the celebrity yoga teachers have spent stints training in India under traditional yogis.

All IRT jokes aside (and I love IRT art as much as anyone -- was a little disappointed with the muted response to Tuth's latest), I think that Indian immigrants will make great Americans. Many of the ones I see are smart, ambitious, and love their families and kids if they have them. They clearly have a real culture of their own but instinctively love America and its opportunities, and have a strong desire to integrate here.

I find a lot to like about Indians generally. A particularly winning quality that some of the educated male Brahmin types have is that they can be gentle without being in any way weak or effeminate; this is almost a lost idea among white men who sort themselves out a little too efficiently these days along the thug/mangina axis.

I believe that more than any other civilization that was conquered by the British Empire, India benefited hugely from its encounter with the English at their absolute and unimaginable height. They were stunned to see a breed of such different and unstoppable energies, and awoken from a long slumber to the possibility of change and ambition; and they were willing to learn and absorb what they could. The results of this are still unfolding but I feel that there is a lot of creative juice flowing through India in all sorts of ways, a great deal of entrepreneurial, scientific and artistic ambition being unleashed. It is striking, and not coincidental, that India was able to create the most vibrant film industry outside of Hollywood and make films whose qualities of mythos and energy approach at times those of Hollywood at its height.

Even the IRT phenomenon, while lamentable in so many ways, springs from a source that isn't all bad; it is the result of this burning ambition and desire for a greater position in the world that has infected a deep culture accustomed to very little change. These seeming contradictions drive the IRT's confusion and impatience -- but I'm very optimistic about the integration of Indians in the US in the intermediate and long term, about the future of India itself, and about the natural alliance between the two countries.

(04-19-2014 04:42 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

^^^ IRT catnip.