I'm an Indian and I'll agree with the comments about Indian outsourcers. I'm a full time internet entrepreneur and I will only use vetted Fillipinos for my outsourcing needs. The only Indians I use are for my seo needs (two firms) to be exact and they deliver the best seo services That I have tried.
So yes, there are some high quality Indian service providers but they are few and far between. I much prefer using Fillipinos for tedious online work.
(05-06-2012 07:42 PM)Gmac Wrote: Based on my own experience, indian (and east asian) guys are some of the most insecure, introverted men on the planet when they are out of their element (or country) - these are usually the guys who understand that stereotypes exist and can't get over that fact. I'm not really surprised. Ah well, what can you do?
Quote:lol, always gets me, when an Indian guy wants to actually try something outside his own race, you guys tend to tell him to stick to his own kind, you guys as in persians, ever heard of roosh v and his forum? guy bans indians on sight, wtf, never got it
That problem comes from extreme closed cultures where men are like a collective and not individuals, one thing latinos and hispanics really are good doing is adapting to different cultures, a Indian guy like the troll here is typically a person who doesn't like to interact with anyone but his people so he cannot learn anything new, so what they try to do is expand their cultures in others parts so they feel more comfortable, just like muslim are expanding in England, you want to see a Indian troll gets butthurt? out a white, black latino guy with a bunch of white women.
(03-09-2014 12:26 PM)Maximun Wrote: one thing latinos and hispanics really are good doing is adapting to different cultures
this is very true. however, we still stick to our cultural stuff usually, but get some of the stuff from the places we settle. i find in richness people of latin-american ancestry who freely brag around that they speak spanish cleanly. i am guilty of doing this a lot to the point where I have gotten some assholes talking shit to me.
south and east asians are the complete opposite. i have yet to see any american born south or east asian (exceptions are Filipinos and sometimes Japanese people; with Filipinos, it's because of the partial Hispanization they have thanks to being a colony of Spain for 300+ years in the past) brag with confidence and pride that they speak Hindi, Mandarin, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. They also americanize so much to the point that they act so god darn americanized even though their parents are immigrants.
why is this? because as you said, the closed minded culture that's in South and East Asian societies.
Quote: a Indian guy like the troll here is typically a person who doesn't like to interact with anyone but his people so he cannot learn anything new, so what they try to do is expand their cultures in others parts so they feel more comfortable, just like muslim are expanding in England,
i dont see any immigrant culture trying to expand and make themselves comfortable in USA like how you're saying muslims do in Europe. the closest thing that might be the case are with latin-americans, since in places like California, Spanish is now almost a must. But, I don't see latin-americans here tell everybody that they should learn Spanish because Latin-Americans are here. English is still the main language and it will continue to be so as long as California is part of the US. In fact, by 2nd generation born in USA, latin-americans lose the Spanish.
Quote:you want to see a Indian troll gets butthurt? out a white, black latino guy with a bunch of white women.
this is with any race troll. all race trolls get butthurt with this. for some weird reason, all race trolls that I have seen online get butthurt when they see a bunch of white girls with some non-white male, even if those trolls are a non-white male.
I have never really understood IRT obsession with white women in general. India is such a diverse country with all kinds of color, culture and they only want to bang white women? I was at this party and these fob Indians just stood in their corner waiting and staring at all the white girls while there were plentiful of beautiful Latinas,black and whatever walking past them. I approached this black girl and they gave the look like I killed someone haha it's really weird
I like white girls so what, I like latina girls, slavic girls, black girls, oriental girls. The IRT obsession is easy to dissect. There's an obsession in India with being fair skinned and it comes from that. Light skinned people are considered more beautiful probably due to the elites in India being fair skinned from the British to the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty to Bollywood movie stars.
There's an acceptance of racism towards all Indians or even their descendants on the forum that wouldn't go down well at all if it were against black people etc.
(03-10-2014 06:58 AM)Teedub Wrote: There's an acceptance of racism towards all Indians or even their descendants on the forum that wouldn't go down well at all if it were against black people etc.
My advice for indian guys on here is not to care or take note of it. I laugh at most of the posts. I've met a few guys off here and it's never been mentioned IRL. The truth is of course somewhere in the middle but I've personally experienced the cockblocking stories that many have on here. These indians affect everyone including indians with game.
Either everything is okay, or nothing is okay. That is my philosophy when it comes to parodies, or comedy. Therefore I can not be outwardly upset at this thread despite being Indian, and fucking proud of it.
But shit is out of control. People are making fun of Indian people because it has become fashionable on this forum to do so. What really makes me laugh is the clearly not very experienced "players" are making fun of random shit some Indian dork did, that has nothing to do with "race trolling", and then bashing an entire race for it. You're telling me even half this shit would fly if it was about white or black dudes?
The thing is, everything SHOULD fly. I think that people are overly sensitive, and it is quite hypocritical especially on this forum for guys to be overly sensitive about getting trolled/made fun of. But the fact that the Indian brothers on here who aren't trolling don't get pissed so easy, despite a 36 page thread plus constant unwarranted bashing everyday, maybe shows who has a little more restraint as a man.
(03-10-2014 03:51 PM)Slim Shady Wrote: You're telling me even half this shit would fly if it was about white or black dudes?
Modern day whitey and his tendencies for passive aggression and libtardedness are lampooned around here on the daily, there have been plenty of threads about the media's reverse racism and ball washing of black America, and I'm sure I've seen posts about Asians being introverted, stiff, and weird.
Have you considered the possibility that Indian culture is just astronomically better comedy fodder?
(03-10-2014 04:12 PM)Ziltoid Wrote: Modern day whitey and his tendencies for passive aggression and libtardedness are lampooned around here on the daily, there have been plenty of threads about the media's reverse racism and ball washing of black America, and I'm sure I've seen posts about Asians being introverted, stiff, and weird.
Certainly you are not wrong with this. All races are equally discussed and dissected but there is a weird obsession with labeling all Indians as IRTs. And there isn't a concerted effort on the forum to post stupid shit Black/White/Asian guys do. Most of the news/funny stuff on the forum is labeled as "Beta" or "WhiteKnights" or "Mangina" or "Male feminist" not as Black troll or White troll.
(03-10-2014 04:12 PM)Ziltoid Wrote: Have you considered the possibility that Indian culture is just astronomically better comedy fodder?
Again you are not wrong here. It certainly is especially when it comes to FOB Indians but as Slim Shady pointed out you have members here posting their experiences with Indians which have nothing to do with trolling or race trolling and bashing Indians for no good reason.
Maybe this should go in the unpopular opinions thread but IMO the whole "IRT" thing is a little overblown. This isn't to say that there aren't race trolls or Indian Race Trolls and they should be made fun of accordingly but you know what I mean.
Naa, I'm passed my phase of meltdowns. I used to be an angry little shit though.
Actually, if you guys want some real comedy making fun of Indians in America, by an Indian, check out the old standups of Russel Peters. His new stuff is shit, but his stuff in the mid 2000's was gold Jerry, gold!
He's merciless in making fun of Indians, but I think it's hilarious because the comedy is on point. What I think is embarrassing is when people make fun of something but don't know anything about it. Ya digg?
(03-10-2014 04:33 PM)Hotwheels Wrote: Shady does have a point. If I was to say I'll never hire another black guy I'd be slaughtered and banned.
True stereotypes are helpful for having a better understanding of the cultures, the world etc. It should not be considered racism to say, for instance, Asians are introverted or Germans are punctual or Britis people are loud or what have you. If everybody is complaining about one particular thing about the same race, then there must be at least some truth in it and it should be considered a fact and exceptions should NOT change that rule. If you say you'll never hire another black guy, true it is unacceptable because 1) you would be judging them based on their color of skin and not their behaviour and 2) you would be speaking against people who did not and would not do you any harm. it would be only acceptable if the whole black race (or at leat most of it) somehow turned into scammers on Elance. If people are all complaining about Indian people's anti-game, trolling or scamming, and these things are indirectly hurting all of us, I don't see any reason why we should not point that out.
This thread makes me lol as I've been gaming a university yoga class lately, bouncing girls to somewhere else after class, and there's ALWAYS a gameless Indian FOB dude trying to tag along uninvited. I do somewhat admire their persistence though.
(03-10-2014 06:58 AM)Teedub Wrote: There's an acceptance of racism towards all Indians or even their descendants on the forum that wouldn't go down well at all if it were against black people etc.
My advice for indian guys on here is not to care or take note of it. I laugh at most of the posts. I've met a few guys off here and it's never been mentioned IRL. The truth is of course somewhere in the middle but I've personally experienced the cockblocking stories that many have on here. These indians affect everyone including indians with game.
It's only really a problem if you allow people to give you shit in person. Ninety percent of the Indians in my year are complete and utter wastes of oxygen. Due to this I've encountered some casual racism which I quickly shot down. I never allow people to correlate me with FOB's or IRT's. If people ever bitch about Indians within my hearing they make sure to issue a disclaimer within my hearing; "Agastya, you get laid, but the rest of your people..."
As has been stated countless times before, an Indian who dresses well, works out, looks decent, and gets laid even somewhat regularly is miles ahead of the majority of his race, not to mention most males in general. To be honest, I don't even consider most IRT's to be truly Indian. The betatude and degeneracy of these people are not inherent features of our race, nor were they ever really present prior to the twentieth century. India has played host to thousands of martial ethnicities, men who maintained harems, mastered weaponcraft, and made war on a regular basis. Try telling the British soldiers stationed in India from 1700-1870 that Indians were a race of pussies. Tens of thousands lost their lives overcoming India's kingdoms, fragmented and decaying as they were. Ranjit Singh's Sikh Empire gave the British the fight of their lives, as did Tippu Sultan's Mysore, the Maratha Confederation, and Ahmad Shah Durrani's Afghan nation. If an IRT's ancestors could see his social anxiety, his piss poor game, and his awful physical condition, they would be disgusted.
I don't care how IRT's are being slandered wholesale on this forum, because I don't view them as members of my race. Much like there are black people and there are n*ggers, there are Indians, and then there are IRT's. Forummers angry at this should realize that the troll comments don't really apply to them, given the fact that, as members of this site, they likely have their shit together. I don't approve, however, of new members jumping on the IRT bandwagon, since it makes them seem like gigantic tryhards.
Yeah Russell Peters old shit was good, I saw him in London half a decade or so back, he rips everyone though, Africans, Jamaicans, Chinese, Arabs, Polish, Americans. His comedy is based on race baiting
(03-10-2014 06:58 AM)Teedub Wrote: There's an acceptance of racism towards all Indians or even their descendants on the forum that wouldn't go down well at all if it were against black people etc.
My advice for indian guys on here is not to care or take note of it. I laugh at most of the posts. I've met a few guys off here and it's never been mentioned IRL. The truth is of course somewhere in the middle but I've personally experienced the cockblocking stories that many have on here. These indians affect everyone including indians with game.
It's only really a problem if you allow people to give you shit in person. Ninety percent of the Indians in my year are complete and utter wastes of oxygen. Due to this I've encountered some casual racism which I quickly shot down. I never allow people to correlate me with FOB's or IRT's. If people ever bitch about Indians within my hearing they make sure to issue a disclaimer within my hearing; "Agastya, you get laid, but the rest of your people..."
As has been stated countless times before, an Indian who dresses well, works out, looks decent, and gets laid even somewhat regularly is miles ahead of the majority of his race, not to mention most males in general. To be honest, I don't even consider most IRT's to be truly Indian. The betatude and degeneracy of these people are not inherent features of our race, nor were they ever really present prior to the twentieth century. India has played host to thousands of martial ethnicities, men who maintained harems, mastered weaponcraft, and made war on a regular basis. Try telling the British soldiers stationed in India from 1700-1870 that Indians were a race of pussies. Tens of thousands lost their lives overcoming India's kingdoms, fragmented and decaying as they were. Ranjit Singh's Sikh Empire gave the British the fight of their lives, as did Tippu Sultan's Mysore, the Maratha Confederation, and Ahmad Shah Durrani's Afghan nation. If an IRT's ancestors could see his social anxiety, his piss poor game, and his awful physical condition, they would be disgusted.
I don't care how IRT's are being slandered wholesale on this forum, because I don't view them as members of my race. Much like there are black people and there are n*ggers, there are Indians, and then there are IRT's. Forummers angry at this should realize that the troll comments don't really apply to them, given the fact that, as members of this site, they likely have their shit together. I don't approve, however, of new members jumping on the IRT bandwagon, since it makes them seem like gigantic tryhards.
Scandinavians are another group that was once ferocious who are now pussified. I think what makes the IRT thing funny is that they come from a sexually repressed culture and a lot of them just don't know how to be around women. I know girls who have been to India and the stories are hilarious. Men who would strategically place themselves on the beach just so they can leer and smile at women in bikinis as if they've never see female skin in their life. Indian guys who come to the US, go out at night and don't even wear deodorant. The fixation on with white pussy. Social ineptitude. These are a unique combination of qualities that make Indian dudes a special breed.
(03-13-2014 03:17 PM)speakeasy Wrote: Scandinavians are another group that was once ferocious who are now pussified. I think what makes the IRT thing funny is that they come from a sexually repressed culture and a lot of them just don't know how to be around women. I know girls who have been to India and the stories are hilarious. Men who would strategically place themselves on the beach just so they can leer and smile at women in bikinis as if they've never see female skin in their life. Indian guys who come to the US, go out at night and don't even wear deodorant. The fixation on with white pussy. Social ineptitude. These are a unique combination of qualities that make Indian dudes a special breed.
Japanese too - I wonder what the Samurai would make of today's generation?
Quote:I was in Goa not so long ago, I confirm this place is infested with perverts waiting to rape the entire city with a click of a mouse.
On a typical day in Goa these perverts will station down on a bike or the pavement and stare women walking down the street, first from front, and then from behind after women walked past them. I never understood sudden 180 degree turn of their sight, it is so damn cheap. So every time my girl and I walked past these idiots, I looked right back at them and as expected they were staring at my girls bums , so I asked, "what the fuck are you lookin' at?". Some of the guys caught staring were so fucking embarrassed that I could hear them farting in their pants. And then I jokingly said, 'Be classy guys'.
While on the beach, I have seen, whenever a bikini wearing white women takes a dip in the ocean, these motherfuckers will make a beehive around her. I was so fucking ashamed of these motherfucking perverts, bringing such shame on entire country's men population. This one guy was drunk and he offered one white women (who was alone on the beach) at least 10 times from his beer bottle. Every time he offered, girl will immediately leave that spot without saying anything. But he will pursue her again and with same intent. I saw the same guy next day with his wife this time, I went straight and offered his wife from my beer bottle, first time they ignored thinking I am crazy or something. Next time when I offered her again, the guy kinda yelled at me. That's when I broke it in front of his wife about what he was doing to that white women a day before. Apparently that motherfucker was on a honeymoon and a North Indian ( I saw his wife wearing Choodas).
One another day, I and my girl went shopping in one Saturday Bazaar near Calangute. On the dance floor, two guys ganged upon on another Caucasian woman, they kept offering her cigarettes knowing very well that the women is pissed off already with their advances. I heard she yelling, "fuck off" to those guys couple of times already, but that won't deter them. Every time they were asked to fuck off, they came back to the remaining of their gang (who were seated) and kept thumping their chests saying, "Salli fuck off bol rahi hai, lagta hai degi". The motherfucking gang then encouraged those two monkeys saying "haan degi degi, fir jao, is baar puppy le ke hi aana".
Man, I have so many of such incidents in my mind from my only Goa trip that I am not going there again. The place is full of pervert virgin men who thinks Goa is some kind of Brothel and that every women in Goa is asking for a fuck, especially the white women.
""Salli fuck off bol rahi hai, lagta hai degi". The motherfucking gang then encouraged those two monkeys saying "haan degi degi, fir jao, is baar puppy le ke hi aana"."
Translation goes somewhat: Girl keeps saying fuck off ,seems like she going to "give it" gang replie:yes she will give it to you, just go. But this time bring a puppy? Puppy could be slang for something or a baby dog
Man people are messed up over there. Remember one time In india being with my cousin this random guy grabbed her ass. I saw it and confronted him. My cousin stopped me from beating his ass though. This guy looked like what most people think Indians look like and it's those who give us a bad name. It really sucks but can't be helped