Also also. NEVER EVER back track a Facebook profile you've found from image hack/google dorking. *without FIRST LOGGING OUT FIRST* EVER. Facebook, at the moment you view *supposed scammers facebook page* Facebook's advertising geniuses will immediately suggest you as a *potential friend* to the person.

I've gotten Android notifications ("DO YOU KNOW ..?") the moment she was hitting my FB.

I went on A-List. It hasn't helped me meet anyone because I don't think OKC has the sheer volume of numbers in the UK to fulfill the numbers game.

The A-List search allows the subscriber to search by attractiveness. When I bring up a search result of 5/5, the price inflation of British women is apparent. It is like looking at over-priced British properties and arranging a viewing with other desperate buyers to see an over-priced Victorian labourer's mid-terrace house which is valued at £250,000.

These "10s" really do range from absolute 5s to 8s. That's an incredible mark-up of up to 50%!

We know from OKC data that 80% of men are deemed to be 'less than average' by women. So we can see that there is little link between the average man's buying power and the average woman's self-perceived value.

I looked at a profile that I genuinely found to be attractive. The woman is complaining about receiving 100s messages per day.

Tried the email on facebook and nothing came of it. Going to try the image search.

Had a date with a girl around an 8. Managed to get a good sitting in a bar had a private couch area to ourselves and used it wisely. Had a couple of round of drinks and we were kissing. She was pretty positive and was enjoying our time. Told her let's go somewhere else, took an uber she said "we're going to your house aren't we" I said we're going somewhere nice you'll see. Eventually got close by to bar area and starting walking within 2 minutes of my place, told her I'm dehydrated could do with some water. She asked if we're going to my house again, I told her yes just for a moment I'm tired anyway don't get any idea. She said she's going home then. And that was that, christ, after 2 hours of what seemed like a good date.

Not enough comfort game? Was I trying to quicken things too much by going to my place after a couple of hours (don't think so)? Just not in the mood/on her period? Who knows.

^ go back and read Tuth's first date bang recipe. It will answer many of your questions. I never kiss a girl unless I'm back at my place with her.

(08-19-2015 10:28 PM)etuvus_spaxus Wrote:  Also also. NEVER EVER back track a Facebook profile you've found from image hack/google dorking. *without FIRST LOGGING OUT FIRST* EVER. Facebook, at the moment you view *supposed scammers facebook page* Facebook's advertising geniuses will immediately suggest you as a *potential friend* to the person.

I've gotten Android notifications ("DO YOU KNOW ..?") the moment she was hitting my FB.

I don't log out but I always have a second browser open with a fake name and use that browser to look up the girl.

You also need to realize that if your facebook account is associated with your mobile number, facebook will also match you up with her facebook account(assuming she has her mobile number tied to it(which most girls do anyway). Facebook has a sneaky way of pulling your contacts and matching them in their database.

Basically you really shouldn't give facebook any real info about yourself. Use a alias name, alias email and no mobile number(if they require one now then better get a google voice one)

(08-20-2015 12:39 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I went on A-List. It hasn't helped me meet anyone because I don't think OKC has the sheer volume of numbers in the UK to fulfill the numbers game.

The A-List search allows the subscriber to search by attractiveness. When I bring up a search result of 5/5, the price inflation of British women is apparent. It is like looking at over-priced British properties and arranging a viewing with other desperate buyers to see an over-priced Victorian labourer's mid-terrace house which is valued at £250,000.

These "10s" really do range from absolute 5s to 8s. That's an incredible mark-up of up to 50%!

We know from OKC data that 80% of men are deemed to be 'less than average' by women. So we can see that there is little link between the average man's buying power and the average woman's self-perceived value.

I looked at a profile that I genuinely found to be attractive. The woman is complaining about receiving 100s messages per day.

I've been using A list for a while. Correct... A list works better when you are in a major city.

I pay the money because it does save me time. I can filter for body type and skip over everyone else. Also seeing who likes me is a nice bonus.

The less amount of time I spend searching the better and im willing to pay for it. You definitely don't need A list though.

wrg

Nothing peeves me more than seeing a girl I lost steam with and never got to meet from okc hanging out with a guy.

I had one girl I was very very interested in and despite my efforts nothing would get this damn girl out. Now I check her snapchat and she's with another guy. It's a huge ego hit. It seems I'm always "second choice" to these girls and it takes so much effort to get them out. All the girls around me seem to be "maybe" girls when it comes to me.

(08-21-2015 06:27 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Nothing peeves me more than seeing a girl I lost steam with and never got to meet from okc hanging out with a guy.

I had one girl I was very very interested in and despite my efforts nothing would get this damn girl out. Now I check her snapchat and she's with another guy. It's a huge ego hit. It seems I'm always "second choice" to these girls and it takes so much effort to get them out. All the girls around me seem to be "maybe" girls when it comes to me.

Stop following these girls on snapchat, etc, once they next you or you next them. Switch to the mentality of abundance - which simply means, "there's more girls out there."

(08-21-2015 06:27 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Nothing peeves me more than seeing a girl I lost steam with and never got to meet from okc hanging out with a guy.

I had one girl I was very very interested in and despite my efforts nothing would get this damn girl out. Now I check her snapchat and she's with another guy. It's a huge ego hit. It seems I'm always "second choice" to these girls and it takes so much effort to get them out. All the girls around me seem to be "maybe" girls when it comes to me.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, and do a little self reflection.

You know that girl who has blue hair, is 20lbs overweight, and doesn't wear makeup? She's the second choice for thirsty betas because she puts no time into her appearance and just expects men to desire her.

If you're constantly a second choice, or a maybe, do things to make yourself more desirable. Go to the gym, dress better, wear shoes that make you a few inches taller.

Not all of us have the genetic ability to smash dimes on the regular (I certainly don't), but consistently landing decent looking girls isn't all that difficult.

If I've learned one thing it's this - the competition isn't all that great.

(08-21-2015 07:40 AM)262 Wrote:  

(08-21-2015 06:27 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Nothing peeves me more than seeing a girl I lost steam with and never got to meet from okc hanging out with a guy.

I had one girl I was very very interested in and despite my efforts nothing would get this damn girl out. Now I check her snapchat and she's with another guy. It's a huge ego hit. It seems I'm always "second choice" to these girls and it takes so much effort to get them out. All the girls around me seem to be "maybe" girls when it comes to me.

Stop following these girls on snapchat, etc, once they next you or you next them. Switch to the mentality of abundance - which simply means, "there's more girls out there."

Agree.

For what it's worth, I never add women on social media. I always let them add me. I've found that affirmatively doing the social media thing comes off as beta and borderline stalkerish.

Quote:Stop following these girls on snapchat, etc, once they next you or you next them. Switch to the mentality of abundance - which simply means, "there's more girls out there."

I only do it when it serves me a game purpose. In this case it was showing off my fun lifestyle/comfort/preselection.

Quote: You know that girl who has blue hair, is 20lbs overweight, and doesn't wear makeup? She's the second choice for thirsty betas because she puts no time into her appearance and just expects men to desire her.

If you're constantly a second choice, or a maybe, do things to make yourself more desirable. Go to the gym, dress better, wear shoes that make you a few inches taller.

Not all of us have the genetic ability to smash dimes on the regular (I certainly don't), but consistently landing decent looking girls isn't all that difficult.

If I've learned one thing it's this - the competition isn't all that great.

She wasn't even a dime, more like a 7. I do most of those things. my physical appearence is fine.

^Could be your physical presence and what your body language looks like when you approach or hang out with women. Maybe you build up the rapport and comfort but never escalate it beyond more than a friendship.

Think of all the little things that could be hurting you when you talk to these women. Do you have any ideas?

(08-20-2015 05:35 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  ^ go back and read Tuth's first date bang recipe. It will answer many of your questions. I never kiss a girl unless I'm back at my place with her.

Yeah will go back to that, validated her too much in the bar and left no will he won't he intrigue.

Had a date with a 20 year old girl. Had two rounds of drinks then got bill to get out of there. Think she's just immature was talking to her sister on text and even her mum called as I was taking an uber back to my place. Ended up deserting me as those kind of girls do. Followed the bang recipe and didn't kiss her at the bar in this case didn't make a difference, don't think anything would have helped really.

Had an OKC girl come over last night. Fresh off the boat from Sweden. Cute girl, big boobs. Got the bang. She left early this morning. Got a text from another girl calling me out on her coming over. Can't tell if she knows she was over or bluffing.

I've got a Chinese girl coming over soon nearby to the station. Used the Zero Bangs receipe I told her let's hang out for drinks. May walk her about for 10 minutes and mention how all the bars are full of old men and midgets and walk her straight to my place. May not bang anyway who knows. Haven't recovered yet from the bang from last night, first world problems.

Well that date was a bit of a disaster and something I need to learn from even though she was a bit of a disaster herself. This is why I go on these dates to get better at this to the point where it will be completely natural.

Went to station, there appeared a 5"2 asian wearing flat shoes, pretty much a midget next to me. Has a 5/10 face and wears glasses. Let's be clear I wouldn't look at her twice in the street, or even once. The only redeeming feature in her profile was that she's looking for casual sex. Walked with her straight to my place. Watched television. Now I'm in two minds about this either I failed the escalation due to a combination of couldn't be fucked as already banged the previous night and that she's not appealing - and I cannot override my subconscious when the girl is not attractive enough, or she just wasn't into it and didn't make it easy. After an hour or so she said she feels like going out. I think I fucked my frame here by saying ok let's go to the bar across the street which is what we did. In hindsight, if a girl is at your place you haven't banged on a first date and says she wants to go out, best to tell her "if I'm boring you you can leave" with a smile on your face, or just bye then with a smile.

Turns out she doesn't drink alcohol (a huge no no), after a while she said "I don't want to be rude but there's no spark" and something about we should be friends as I moved her handbag out of the way to get closer to her. So I just walked off home and left her sitting there like the weird gimp that she is. I kissed the face of an 8 a couple of days earlier and have banged asians ten times hotter than her. The strange thing is that I genuinely feel that she wasn't that into me. Women don't work on logic to a large extent anyway so nothing to get too bothered about, it is just hard to get your head around getting rejected by a 5 with little prospects and no real job, when you're a successful, 7.5 guy yourself.

But then again I probably fucked it up (while I was contemplating whether she's even worth getting my cock out for) by not going straight for the fuck. If she was not interested would she have walked into my place with me in the first place? probably not.

She was probably infatuated with you when you both started messaging back and forth. When she probably saw you in person and got to know you, she probably didn't liked what she saw. It happens to everyone. Don't sweat it.

Either that, or it was painfully obvious to her that you were disgusted with her and doubted you could have got aroused enough to fuck her so she cut the date short.

Quite possibly. Just back from a Latina date, you could see she liked me from the off. Smiling from the very beginning, lots of iois hitting my shoulder. I actually had another date lined up of a girl driving to my house but she cancelled as I was with this one so couldn't care less. Did the usual of bouncing to another bar close to mine and then mine. Kissed but couln't go much further, she seems pretty into me so there's half a decent chance of a second date is on in this one.

Anyone ever match with those girls that have their instagram/gamer_tags/social networks listed on their profile? I matched with this asian/caucasion mix a day ago and hit her up on IG. Seemed like she was down so I went for the number but haven't heard anything since then. It's only been day though, but I do feel like if they pretty much say "Lets do it" they'd look out for some effort of exchanging contact

^Those girls who post their instagram profiles are all attention whoring. They are trying to horde "followers" so they can validate their existence as attractive women who need to take half naked pictures for people to tongue kiss their assholes. Those people make me want to vomit. Do not give them that satisfaction because they are shallow people with empty souls.

^ Not that I've done this (I prefer daygame), but I remember reading on the forum that IG might be useful for a guy if he's able to post tons of awesome pics & get tons of followers. Flips the script on the girls.