Just broke a 6 months no fap spell.

During that time had 3 ejaculations during sleep. Majority of time I had a strong boner when I woke, especially when I was actively working out. I use cold showers on a daily basis. Even though I have not much fat on my body, my face has changed after 3 months of no fap. Cheekbones started to be more visible then ever, to the point, people that I used to see a lot in UK, told me I am slimmer than before I left to Poland. The body weight has not changed. I will be 40 in May.

Sexdrive upon first 2 months was high, then it became sort of flat. I prefere the word hidden though. Because I am a christian I just did not care about it. Whenever I caught myself in lusty thoughts I quickly forced myself to let them go by remembering it is a sin. I call it "perfect abundance" mentality; when you do not think, need or chase sex. The "true abundance" is that of a playboy; think, need and chase just not caring about the outcome.

I have not got any data from medical tests but I will get it in about a month after getting back on track. I did not break the no fap because I read something on the forum, no. I did it just to replenish my body and have a fresh start. Overally it is exciting to no fap, especially seeing others saying things with eyes wide with astonishement - How is that possible, man?
Good luck everybody on your no fap journey. Stay strong!

(11-08-2017 06:28 PM)mikado Wrote:  Can you get viagra or cialis from the doctor if you are under 30?

I don't know, I didn't exactly go the traditional route of going to a doctor.

(11-09-2017 02:42 AM)Wutang Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 01:38 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 01:07 AM)Wutang Wrote:  I'm close to 100 days in and I've yet to experience a flatline (sex drive is as high as ever) or any wet dreams. Is this normal or am I just lucky?

Meh. Shit happens. Everyone's different.

How much have you been getting laid?

No sex during that time which makes it even more bizarre. I haven't had any sort of release at all so I thought wet dreams would have happened already.

My diagnosis - just lucky. Keep on soldier.

Well just ended up with the 19yo virgin in my dorm room. I was pretty drunk but I popped some Viagra so I was good to go. I gave her her first ever orgasm just by licking her clit, she gave me some shitty head and I tried to fuck her but I just couldn't put it in. She was so tight, she was already tightening up and pleading me to stop when I just put in 1 finger. She ended up giving me a handjob while I was kneeling over her torso and I busted a big nut(viagra+7 days no ejaculation) all over her tight young body.

For anyone despite Nofap still experiencing some sub-par performance or anyone wanting to improve his in general, I will recommend simple supplements:

This gave me boners as hard when I was 15:

https://www.swansonvitamins.com/doctors-...0-veg-caps

I took up to 4 of those tablets per day.

There are other sexual stimulants on Swanson.

Of course I would also recommend at least a good multi:
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-...-240-sgels

The multi has Zinc Oxide and Magnesium oxide. Big no no for absorption

Anybody else get more attracted to different kinds of girls when they are streaking? Usually I like slim girls, either skinny or with some feminine curves. When I'm streaking I get super turned on by curvy chicks. Not fatties but girls that are maybe 10-20lbs overweight but have the fat in the right places like their ass, hips, tits and waist.
Today there was a short girl at my gym wearing yoga pants. Plain face, big tits and huge ass and thighs. She was sitting on the exercise bike and I couldn't stop watching her ass bounce while she did cardio.
I wanted to approach but she was wearing headphones and I was already done with my workout.

Was in a hotel and checked out the porn offering, and was completely disgusted. Almost all of it was degenerate, disgusting stuff. A lot different than a few years ago, its clearly not straight porn any longer. Does this reflect the changes society, or the where the porn business wants to take your attention. It gave a lot of credit to these conspiracies we discuss about porn. Are most clueless porn consumers into this stuff?

Regardless, it makes me sick and I am resolved to not look at porn any longer. Mostly I just like to look at naked models, but that is a gateway for sure. I would like to not look at it again and phase myself out of that completely.

(11-12-2017 11:10 AM)little wing Wrote:  Anybody else get more attracted to different kinds of girls when they are streaking? Usually I like slim girls, either skinny or with some feminine curves. When I'm streaking I get super turned on by curvy chicks. Not fatties but girls that are maybe 10-20lbs overweight but have the fat in the right places like their ass, hips, tits and waist.
Today there was a short girl at my gym wearing yoga pants. Plain face, big tits and huge ass and thighs. She was sitting on the exercise bike and I couldn't stop watching her ass bounce while she did cardio.
I wanted to approach but she was wearing headphones and I was already done with my workout.

Yeah I do. I'm 100% only attracted to big thick hips and arses when I'm not wanking. Also as I've got bigger and stronger over the last few years it also moved my attraction towards thicker curvier girls.

Posting just for accountability here: Quickly edged to some pics on reddit. I blocked reddit now with K9 web protection to stop sabotaging myself.
Can't wait to hit the gym again tomorrow.

Mistakes happen I guess, all I can do is move on and abstain again tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that and so on.

(11-12-2017 11:10 AM)little wing Wrote:  Anybody else get more attracted to different kinds of girls when they are streaking? Usually I like slim girls, either skinny or with some feminine curves. When I'm streaking I get super turned on by curvy chicks. Not fatties but girls that are maybe 10-20lbs overweight but have the fat in the right places like their ass, hips, tits and waist.

I think I notice something similar too. I still prefer skinny girls but my hindbrain activates for mildly thick girls. Although I really love skinny girls so my thick is other guys' thin.

A good skinny/pretty girl I still would really consider for a LTR but a thick girl conjures up dirty sexual thoughts.

Day 8 - I just edged and got blue balls, gonna stay on this can't let myself lose discipline fully.

Made it to 5 days and for the first few days I felt my desire growing but then it plateaued.
I went partying with some friends, took a pill and stayed awake for 24 hours and that seemed to just totally kill my sex drive for a couple of days.
Banged my GF twice on the weekend but it was a struggle, I wasn't really feeling it.
Had my football teams end of year function on Sunday and kicked on after with some of the boys and succumbed by rubbing one out that night when I got home.

So back to square one now, one day.

On a different note, has anyone tried Maca before?

(11-13-2017 10:25 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Made it to 5 days and for the first few days I felt my desire growing but then it plateaued.
I went partying with some friends, took a pill and stayed awake for 24 hours and that seemed to just totally kill my sex drive for a couple of days.
Banged my GF twice on the weekend but it was a struggle, I wasn't really feeling it.
Had my football teams end of year function on Sunday and kicked on after with some of the boys and succumbed by rubbing one out that night when I got home.

So back to square one now, one day.

On a different note, has anyone tried Maca before?

Yeah I have maca powder. Used it throughout the last few months but honestly didn't feel much in terms of sex drive. The studies done on it didn't show any change in test levels but showed slight sexual improvements, probably because it is supposedly loaded with minerals and micronutrients.

The unrefined powder is the way to go, pretty cheap and tastes decent. I sometimes mix it in my green smoothie together with ginger powder

You could try it but personally I had better results with tribulus, pine pollen powder and mucuna pruriens among others

^ Love your sig mate.

(11-12-2017 11:23 AM)Vaun Wrote:  Was in a hotel and checked out the porn offering, and was completely disgusted. Almost all of it was degenerate, disgusting stuff. A lot different than a few years ago, its clearly not straight porn any longer. Does this reflect the changes society, or the where the porn business wants to take your attention. It gave a lot of credit to these conspiracies we discuss about porn. Are most clueless porn consumers into this stuff?

Regardless, it makes me sick and I am resolved to not look at porn any longer. Mostly I just like to look at naked models, but that is a gateway for sure. I would like to not look at it again and phase myself out of that completely.

Just finished reading 'your brain on porn'. It specifically talks about people needing progressively degenerate stuff to get off. I guess this is just catering to that. The stuff you would have seen in hotels even 10 years ago wouldn't get most people going now.

(11-14-2017 08:02 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 11:23 AM)Vaun Wrote:  Was in a hotel and checked out the porn offering, and was completely disgusted. Almost all of it was degenerate, disgusting stuff. A lot different than a few years ago, its clearly not straight porn any longer. Does this reflect the changes society, or the where the porn business wants to take your attention. It gave a lot of credit to these conspiracies we discuss about porn. Are most clueless porn consumers into this stuff?

Regardless, it makes me sick and I am resolved to not look at porn any longer. Mostly I just like to look at naked models, but that is a gateway for sure. I would like to not look at it again and phase myself out of that completely.

Just finished reading 'your brain on porn'. It specifically talks about people needing progressively degenerate stuff to get off. I guess this is just catering to that. The stuff you would have seen in hotels even 10 years ago wouldn't get most people going now.

When I was still fapping I found most mainstream porn completely unarousing. Like when you have hypersexualized bimbos with huge silicone boobs getting railed by a 10 inch cock in weird positions and their over dramatized moans. Didn't do anything for me, I could only get off with more amateur style porn.


I highly recommend getting K9 installed on your PC's and putting a calendar in your room where you usually use your PC. Every time I get urges I just look at the calendar and the days I marked where I didn't watch porn or naked girls and it motivates me to keep going. My K9 password is also something like "is it really worth it you weak minded cuck"

I would have to physically type out those words if I wanted to look at some porn

(11-13-2017 10:51 AM)little wing Wrote:  

(11-13-2017 10:25 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Made it to 5 days and for the first few days I felt my desire growing but then it plateaued.
I went partying with some friends, took a pill and stayed awake for 24 hours and that seemed to just totally kill my sex drive for a couple of days.
Banged my GF twice on the weekend but it was a struggle, I wasn't really feeling it.
Had my football teams end of year function on Sunday and kicked on after with some of the boys and succumbed by rubbing one out that night when I got home.

So back to square one now, one day.

On a different note, has anyone tried Maca before?

Yeah I have maca powder. Used it throughout the last few months but honestly didn't feel much in terms of sex drive. The studies done on it didn't show any change in test levels but showed slight sexual improvements, probably because it is supposedly loaded with minerals and micronutrients.

The unrefined powder is the way to go, pretty cheap and tastes decent. I sometimes mix it in my green smoothie together with ginger powder

You could try it but personally I had better results with tribulus, pine pollen powder and mucuna pruriens among others

I've been using it for a few days now and feel nothing yet. Studies I read all said that after 8 weeks on 3g per day participants reported increased sex drive. But I don't know if that means it took 8 weeks to feel it or they just only reported the changes they felt after the 8 week trial was done.

I've bought enough organic gelatinised Maca powder to last me 40 days so at least I'll finish that and see if I feel any different. I'm adding it to my daily protein shake and it doesn't taste bad at all. Taking one teaspoon a day which is 5g according to the packet.

I haven't heard of those other supplements you mentioned.

Just wanted to update everyone here on my Kratom experiment....FAILURE!

I was taking it two or three times a week, only 4g a day. This is nowhere near what crazy Chris at GLL suggests, but it was just enough to give me a perk without any side effects.

I noticed my libido was lower but it wasn't mentally, just physically. I was still looking at asses in public and felt like a total horndog. The loss of libido was in my dick, I wasn't getting NRB's (no reason boners) anymore. I was happy to be a little less horny because it was easier to do NoFap when I wasn't walking around with a boner all the time.

Now the problem with Kratom happened last Thursday. Here's the timeline:

Friday the 3rd: last time I saw my girl and nutted
Wednesday: last time I took Kratom
Thursday: next time I saw girl

That's a good six days between orgasms, which should mean I'm a horny SOB. I was, and when I went over to her house we had pretty decent sex. I came within a few minutes and then prepared for round two....but IT NEVER HAPPENED!

I'm usually ready to go after 10-15 minutes, even less when I'm with a sexy girl I'm interested in (like this one).

After 30 minutes I couldn't even get a little blood to my penis. Not even a half chub, just completely flaccid. She was cool with it but I was pissed.

I said fuck this and stopped taking Kratom. The next time we had sex (Saturday) I took some L-Citrulline before and fucked her brains out three times within a 12 hour window, so that was nice.

I don't think I'm going to take Kratom anymore unless I'm completely willing to sacrifice my libido. Right now, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

The pros don't seem to outweigh the cons. It didn't provide INSANE focus or anything, just a small buzz and concentration bonus. Is it worth it? Not really. My second round dick game is valuable to me and definitely responsible for keeping girls around.

^When I first tried kratom, it gave me a clear focus energy to do work for hours at a time.
That feeling eventually wore off, so I stopped taking it.
Way too much effort for little payoff. If someone were legally able to make pre-made brews for sale, it might be worth it.
But I think there are better alternatives like modifil.

I recently relapsed just now.
Went around 2 weeks without busting.
I have an idea of what broke me.

Yesterday, I went and got a little caesar's pizza.
Didn't feel like cooking and I was in the mood for pizza.
I have a feeling that it got me in the mood, so to speak.

That got me thinking, why do we start posting what we did differently the day we fap?
I have a feeling certain things can cause triggers that we normally wouldn't expect.
Did you get less sleep that day?
Did you do something stressful?

Maybe we don't have to post here for our personal results, but if we find common causes, it could help out people starting out.
For example, someone might relapse after drinking wine, but not beer. (or vice versa)
Info like that might keep our streaks going longer.

(11-14-2017 03:57 PM)Sancho Wrote:  ^When I first tried kratom, it gave me a clear focus energy to do work for hours at a time.
That feeling eventually wore off, so I stopped taking it.
Way too much effort for little payoff. If someone were legally able to make pre-made brews for sale, it might be worth it.
But I think there are better alternatives like modifil.

I recently relapsed just now.
Went around 2 weeks without busting.
I have an idea of what broke me.

Yesterday, I went and got a little caesar's pizza.
Didn't feel like cooking and I was in the mood for pizza.
I have a feeling that it got me in the mood, so to speak.

That got me thinking, why do we start posting what we did differently the day we fap?
I have a feeling certain things can cause triggers that we normally wouldn't expect.
Did you get less sleep that day?
Did you do something stressful?

Maybe we don't have to post here for our personal results, but if we find common causes, it could help out people starting out.
For example, someone might relapse after drinking wine, but not beer. (or vice versa)
Info like that might keep our streaks going longer.

I got some pizza yesterday too and today I was edging... No more fucking pizza!

My weakness is when I party and see hot girls. If I strike out and don't bring one home it's hard to resist rubbing one out.

(11-14-2017 11:11 AM)redbeard Wrote:  I took some L-Citrulline before and fucked her brains out three times within a 12 hour window, so that was nice.

Do you find the L-citrulline helps in this department? I've been flatlining like a bitch the last few weeks and relapsed. Was on about seventy days too.

Stay strong brothers. This thread is gold.

(11-15-2017 03:42 AM)roberto Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 11:11 AM)redbeard Wrote:  I took some L-Citrulline before and fucked her brains out three times within a 12 hour window, so that was nice.

Do you find the L-citrulline helps in this department? I've been flatlining like a bitch the last few weeks and relapsed. Was on about seventy days too.

Stay strong brothers. This thread is gold.

L citrulline will provide a bit of a boost in terms of blood flow but lack of arousal during flatline is mainly mental/in the brain.
I was able to get hard last week with Viagra and I'm flatlining too. Still I didn't feel much and my erection wasn't as big and thick as when I fap. Our brains need time to heal and rewire , don't sweat it

(11-04-2017 01:50 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  @tonysoprano and @ redbeard: Sounds like a subject worth investigating. Perhaps start a new thread to create a datasheet on that specific topic, so it doesn't get lost in the 100+ pages here of nofap?

That's a good idea, I will write a datasheet on it when I get the chance. Look out for it sometime this week. I am no expert by any means, but will discuss the research I have compiled, some of the resources I've used to help educate myself, and my personal experience with it.