(10-21-2017 01:39 PM)Kharn Wrote:  

Not sure if it was already posted, but I think it's worth watching. It basically tells you when it's a good idea to do or not the NoFap thing.

That video above:

^ Yes, Kharn's video post is just sorta getting at the fact that there are some who can "get away with it" or something like that. To be certain, in itself (like anything else) it is either good or bad. Since it's a misuse it's clearly bad. I think everyone intrinsically knows this, too. Is it a huge deal all the time or something to get crazy about if you transgress? No, but videos like that are stealthy in that they will trick you into thinking, yeah, it's not so bad. The reality is that it is. So try not to do it, don't make excuses why it might be "OK"

Day 1.

Starting over again. It's what must be done. I will be doing both NP/NF, but I'm more interested in the No Porn aspect. I have to heal this porn addiction sickness. 4+ years in this forum and my game is still weak. That's due to many factors but porn plays a large part.

It's going to be very hard, since I'm stopping (not quitting) weed use at this time in order to increase productivity. Fapping helps me relieve anxiety and stress, but only in the short term, and superficially so.

I'm at day 14 right now. I'm going to make it to at least 30 days this time. I feel horny as hell right now. I think the hardest thing about not fapping to porn is how easy it is. If you have access to a computer or a smartphone, it's only a few clicks away, and next thing you know you're neck deep in virtual pussy. I guess the way to quit is to simply walk away and not do it, but the temptation is always there.

(10-21-2017 07:44 PM)Killer Joe Wrote:  Day 1.

Starting over again. It's what must be done. I will be doing both NP/NF, but I'm more interested in the No Porn aspect. I have to heal this porn addiction sickness. 4+ years in this forum and my game is still weak. That's due to many factors but porn plays a large part.

It's going to be very hard, since I'm stopping (not quitting) weed use at this time in order to increase productivity. Fapping helps me relieve anxiety and stress, but only in the short term, and superficially so.

NP/NF is a great tool, but it's just that.

In order to improve your game you need to have a plan in place. Roosh 100 Approaches, GLL Approach Anxiety, whatever program gets you there.

(10-21-2017 08:16 PM)King of Monkeys Wrote:  I'm at day 14 right now. I'm going to make it to at least 30 days this time. I feel horny as hell right now. I think the hardest thing about not fapping to porn is how easy it is. If you have access to a computer or a smartphone, it's only a few clicks away, and next thing you know you're neck deep in virtual pussy. I guess the way to quit is to simply walk away and not do it, but the temptation is always there.

The key is to identify your triggers and move away from them, consciously. Easier said then done, but that's why this thread is 139 pages.

In the meantime, I highly recommend some kind of porn blocker on your computer. My favorite is Self-Control for Mac, because it allows you to block porn sites and "other" sites that might trigger you, like reddit or twitter.

Day 1...Again

My biggest trigger right now is INstagram, and certain threads here (specifically the bondage thread/plus-Notch thread - gotta avoid those).

I use IG for a business and a personal account...so thinking of setting up a new rule - only go on IG when I’m posting a photo.

Why do you follow instagram whores? Just do your thing on IG and don't look around too much. Same thing is with porn torrents or similar.

^Its not even following IG whores - a friend of mine posting a photo of her by a pool. But on the business one...the “discover tab” (or whatever it’s called), those IG thots come up - mostly because they just have a lot of followers.

(10-21-2017 01:56 AM)Lucky Wrote:  

(10-16-2017 08:46 PM)Lucky Wrote:  

(10-08-2017 04:45 PM)Lucky Wrote:  I fucked a Tinderella last night. Over drinks she said she was worried I "just wanted to hook up."

An hour later she was naked in my apartment.

I fucked her four times. The first time I honestly lasted about 3, 3 and half minutes. Each time after a little longer.

She had an inquisitive look about my rapid orgasms. She kept making comments about me being "smooth" and so on, being impressed when I removed her bra with one hand, and was probably confused as to how a "smooth" guy could finish so soon

So I told her I stopped masturbating. She told me she masturbates a lot, watches porn, etc. Quite a slut.

I will fuck her again.

Update: Fucked her again.

Also fucked a different girl. And another. I am on one of the best streaks of my life. 3 different girls on 3 different nights. I've approached 3 girls today, 2 phone numbers. Tinder and Bumble are working for me too.

This is a great lifestyle. Keep moving forward gents, the benefits will come.

Day 41.

Just banged an 18 year old freshman.

Started out the night by approaching 3 different girls, all instant rejections. It's amazing and fascinating how being horny overrides self-consciousness or approach anxiety. A real transformation. I've been regularly approaching 3-5 girls a day, just going about my daily routine of work, classes, etc.

Fourth girl I approached was immediately into me. Started dancing, making out, grabbing her ass. About an hour later she randomly said she isn't "into hooking up."

20 minutes after that, she asked if she could stay at my place tonight.

She's currently in my bed, freshly fucked.

Seriously this nofap stuff is magic.

Day 46.

I agree dude, girls pick up on that shit. When you are cocky, fearless and confident girls will get wet. Especially when you stand out against all the beta dudes she gets hit on by usually.

Was at a party on Thursday, a friend of mine who is slowly becoming more alpha/red pill was talking to this tipsy 7 that I knew from a week before. The whole group moved from the hallway in the dorm to this small kitchen and we all just hang out.
The 7 sits down to my right on a small couch, on my left there is this somewhat chubby dude I didn't know. At this point I realize the 7 is a bit too drunk for my taste so I pour her glasses of water while I drink vodka.

My friend is sitting on the opposite couch, I can tell he is a bit pissed because now the 7 is all over me. I'm negging her hard, engaging pretty much anyone in a conversation except her. She starts rubbing her tits against my torso and gets more touchy. Plus all kinds of IOI's but I don't give her any attention.

Slowly the chubby dude on my left starts picking up that I'm ignoring this girl and he starts trying to diss me with some shit tests. I put them down with ease and make him look stupid. He starts putting his shoulder behind me and starts trying to get touchy with the girl. Slowly the conversation fades out, I tell my friends we gonna bounce and we are slowly leaving the room. 7 walks out in front of me while I slowly walk behind her, a few paces back. Suddenly chubby dude comes out of nowhere, thinking this is his night and goes up to the 7 and hits on her hard. He puts his hands on her waist and tries to sweet talk her. I'm just walking behind them, taking it all in and smiling. Eventually she turns the chubby dude down and waits for me by the door.

I go up, grab her by the ass and take her to the stair well. Make out ensues while the chubby dude just watches. Me and 7 walk down the stairs and chubby dude gives me this look, I will never forget it.
I imagine it is how sheep look at wolves or some shit.
I went on to bang her 3 times that night, he probably went to his room, loaded up pornhub and

That made me so motivated to not watch fucking porn again. Girls can tell, for real.
I just went to the gym late at night in my dorm, this 6 is there doing her workout. We start talking a lot, I give her some cues on her squat form and show her some cool stretches ,eventually she mentions her BF in this kind of shit test. Now I just go cold, do my workout. She starts trying to engage me again and again.
In the end she asked for my facebook because she thinks she can learn a lot from me in the gym (yeah right bitch). Told her I don't do facebook and gave her my number. Curious if she will text me, her BF is in the USA while she lives in Europe. She probaby hasn't been fucked in months

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actual footage of little wing at that party last thursday





Jokes aside, that story is pretty awesome.

I caved in today but not the way I expected. I ended up jerking one out without any pornography which surprised me. Usually, I can only wank when I've got porn or something in front of me, but I got enough sensitivity back in my loins I didn't even need it. Even though I made a mistake, I can tell I'm heading in the right direction when I no longer need porn to stimulate me.

Currently on Day 26. I never thought for a second I'll get this far. Here's my tips on how not to relapse.

1. Avoid white sugar.
I haven't seen any scientific journal on what I'm about to say, but, I believe white sugar makes you undisciplined and weak. In fact, its bad for your system all round. Ever since I quit white sugar, soda, and sugary foods, I feel much more in control of my thoughts and actions.

2. Avoid Instagram.
Not literally of course, but seeing photos of hot girls might trigger a relapse. Same goes for TV.

3. Embrace Stoicism and Zen meditation.
It will toughen your mind and make it resilient to weak pleasures.

DAY 1 (again)

Something weird happened yesterday. I was watching pictures of clothed girls, then I eventually moved on to looking at naked ones for about 2 or 3 hours or so. My balls started to hurt as if someone had kicked them. I ran some errands all afternoon, and then I came back and realized I had inadvertently blue-balled myself. I jerked off and the pain went away. I went to sleep and the pain didn't come back after waking up.

But I won't give up. I'm starting over again. Strictly zero porn, zero fap.

(10-21-2017 10:56 PM)redbeard Wrote:  NP/NF is a great tool, but it's just that.

In order to improve your game you need to have a plan in place. Roosh 100 Approaches, GLL Approach Anxiety, whatever program gets you there.

I will, but I need to get my finances in order first.

Ok back on the train

(10-24-2017 08:03 PM)Killer Joe Wrote:  DAY 1 (again)

Something weird happened yesterday. I was watching pictures of clothed girls, then I eventually moved on to looking at naked ones for about 2 or 3 hours or so. My balls started to hurt as if someone had kicked them. I ran some errands all afternoon, and then I came back and realized I had inadvertently blue-balled myself. I jerked off and the pain went away. I went to sleep and the pain didn't come back after waking up.

But I won't give up. I'm starting over again. Strictly zero porn, zero fap.

(10-21-2017 10:56 PM)redbeard Wrote:  NP/NF is a great tool, but it's just that.

In order to improve your game you need to have a plan in place. Roosh 100 Approaches, GLL Approach Anxiety, whatever program gets you there.

I will, but I need to get my finances in order first.

Daygame is 100% free.

Nightgame is close to free - if you stick to water.

No excuses.

Over two weeks strong, no edging, touching, no looking at skimpy girls on FB/IG. Sex drive is off the charts, but I'm focusing on wife shopping, not thots, so it is hard to contain it. I've been using it to make more efforts to approach quality LTR-type girls and focus on work. Random boners pop up when you don't fap/watch porn after a while. When you are draining your manhood into a tissue, you don't give it time to recover and keep that "edge". Nofap is probably one of the true tests of a man's desire to grow in masculine virtue and strength. The good Lord knows how difficult a habit it is to kick!

Had a bit of a scare with my no-porn commitment tonight. While we were at Golden Chen’s, a co-worker was showing everyone a video of a girl being fisted in the ass that someone in this group chat he's in had sent.. He showed it to me and I glimpsed at it, thinking I would be more amused then aroused, since the context of the video was a bunch of rambunctious guys sending outrageous stuff to each other.

Turned out that the girl receiving the fisting was Proxy Paige, a porn star I was familiar with due to seeing her on one of those compilation videos of porn stars saying outrageous things on eFukt. The brief viewing of the video ended up triggering memories of my old porn habit and I found myself feeling the urge to Google her. I ended up doing so but didn’t click to any of the links to her videos. However, I did look at this page that had a biography of her, thinking it would be okay since it wasn’t a porn video but the page with the interview had some nude pictures of her. Thankfully, I managed to grab a hold of myself, working to banish the images and desires that had cropped up in my mind before things really spiraled out of control. In the end, I didn’t look up any of her videos nor did I masturbate. I have to admit; those thoughts are still in the back of mind but I’m confident that I have them under lock and key so I should be fine through the night.

Positive aspect of this experience is I got to see how many people commonly relapse - the rationalizing, the half steps you take towards relapsing, thinking it’s okay since you’re just taking a peek and you’re not viewing full out hardcore material and then before you know it, you’re sitting in your bedroom wiping yourself off with a tissue - without actually relapsing myself. I'd hate to sound like one of those old middle aged finger wagging school marms, but incidents like this really do make me realize how porn-fied our culture is and how it's being constantly pushed on us. I'm pretty disconnected from a lot of media and pop culture yet I still cannot avoid this.

(10-25-2017 09:04 PM)Wutang Wrote:  Had a bit of a scare with my no-porn commitment tonight. While we were at Golden Chen’s, a co-worker was showing everyone a video of a girl being fisted in the ass that someone in this group chat he's in had sent.. He showed it to me and I glimpsed at it, thinking I would be more amused then aroused, since the context of the video was a bunch of rambunctious guys sending outrageous stuff to each other.

Turned out that the girl receiving the fisting was Proxy Paige, a porn star I was familiar with due to seeing her on one of those compilation videos of porn stars saying outrageous things on eFukt. The brief viewing of the video ended up triggering memories of my old porn habit and I found myself feeling the urge to Google her. I ended up doing so but didn’t click to any of the links to her videos. However, I did look at this page that had a biography of her, thinking it would be okay since it wasn’t a porn video but the page with the interview had some nude pictures of her. Thankfully, I managed to grab a hold of myself, working to banish the images and desires that had cropped up in my mind before things really spiraled out of control. In the end, I didn’t look up any of her videos nor did I masturbate. I have to admit; those thoughts are still in the back of mind but I’m confident that I have them under lock and key so I should be fine through the night.

Positive aspect of this experience is I got to see how many people commonly relapse - the rationalizing, the half steps you take towards relapsing, thinking it’s okay since you’re just taking a peek and you’re not viewing full out hardcore material and then before you know it, you’re sitting in your bedroom wiping yourself off with a tissue - without actually relapsing myself. I'd hate to sound like one of those old middle aged finger wagging school marms, but incidents like this really do make me realize how porn-fied our culture is and how it's being constantly pushed on us. I'm pretty disconnected from a lot of media and pop culture yet I still cannot avoid this.

Thanks for the share, Wutang.

This is a great illustration of how porn addiction works. You don't think you're addicted, because your brain convinces you otherwise. Until you consciously try to remove it from your life, porn seems like this benign activity similar to reading a book.

This can't be farther from the truth. Pornographic images and videos have massive power over us due to the connection to SEX. If he was just showing a funny gif of something wholesome, like a dog falling off the couch, it would not have that affect on you.

Learning from experiences like this is key to the process. Next time you're in a similar situation, you'll remember this post, and be skilled enough to avoid going down the rabbit hole.

Relapsed, lost a 7 day streak a couple of days ago and now a 2 day streak. I've been eating tons of chocolate and other processed foods I need to cut that out as it makes me more prone to breaking my streak.

Been drinking too much last few times I've gone out. I can tell it's bad for my health and gym progress. My game also gets weaker after a certain threshold.
Last night I was in bed with a super cute 19yo virgin, I was really attracted to her but my dick didn't want to fuck at all.
I suppose it's a mix between alcohol and NoFap Flatline. Gonna go monk mode for a while to reboot.
No more alcohol, partying and shit. I need some time to focus on myself, my body and my mind

For transparency sake - I've been dabbling in Kratom for the past few weeks. I think it definitely helps if you're trying to cut out porn and masturbation.

When I'm on Kratom, I still feel sexual, but I don't get raging horniness that comes with the urges.

Jury's still out if I recommend this stuff, I still want to weigh the pros and cons, but my libido has definitely been lower the past few weeks.

I wasn't sure if it was flatline, kratom, or lack of sleep, but after reading this post, I think it's the kratom:

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/thought...st-5-years

Quote:The Kratom Lifestyle Has a Positive and Negative Effect on My Sex Life

Even with high-testosterone levels (doctor-supervised HRT), Kratom has a negative effect on my sex drive.

In my case, I can still get turned on, sometimes very quickly - but my libido is not as strong as it would be without Kratom. It's far from dead however.

This is typical of long-term use of anything that affects opiate receptors but is certainly less than more "hardcore" compounds.

My general advice - just go through the motions in the bedroom, you'll get a boner. Cialis will obviously solve any ED issues.

At the same time, there's been a really helpful positive effect - Kratom makes me last longer in bed.

Often - a lot longer.

In my experience, the lowered sensitivity from Kratom is absolutely perfect for me.

It's not like a stimulant that will prevent me from getting hard. And It's not like similar compounds (Tramadol, or SSRIs) that totally prevents me from getting off.

Although not always necessary, Cialis and the lowered sensitivity combines for amazing performance in the bedroom.

It's really made me (seem) excellent in bed.

If you want to use Cialis every day, you can ask your doctor about Cialis for Daily Use (2.5 mg Cialis).
(FDA-approved, for what it's worth)

As a side note - Kratom has very little effect on my male enhancement efforts.

The lowered libido is a negative but nothing I can't work past or completely negate with Cialis. I've gone from ~6.0 to ~7.0 over the past 4 or 5 years, a long way from the modest 5.25" I started at in ~2001.

Just keep progressing, it's worth it, the testimonials on this thread are real. If you fall, get back up

I think abstaining, working out and supplementation will make you all have much increased energy and focus

If you are a 20+ year old, trust us and stop, you also have a lot more time to re-wire and be healthy. Don't fall victim to the corrupt culture and technology, boys

Been edging last 2 days because I was horny as fuck. Didn't cum though.

I'm gonna reset my counter anyway, day 1 for me tomorrow.
Let's make it special by picking up a hottie at the halloween party I'm at, I really need some release

Going on three straight weeks of nofap/noporn. Some morning boners, more focus and random boners throughout the day. Has upped my desire to wife shop. I feel the strong desire to dump a huge load inside my future wife. When a man has a full sack of seeds, a fertile woman who isn't on birth control is like a magnet. Waiting is painful, but is also creates a directed focus for those men like myself who are called to fatherhood.