I set up a date for tonight with some chick

Sounds like she wasn't into my choice because she mentioned eating some sushi.

I told her I would of already eaten by then and she responds with,'we'll you can still drink while I eat."

Told her we can reschedule for another day.

Anything I could of text differently? Only reason I totally didn't ignore her is because she is 21.

(07-18-2014 02:37 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  I set up a date for tonight with some chick

Sounds like she wasn't into my choice because she mentioned eating some sushi.

I told her I would of already eaten by then and she responds with,'we'll you can still drink while I eat."

Told her we can reschedule for another day.

Anything I could of text differently? Only reason I totally didn't ignore her is because she is 21.

"Only if you drink too"

(07-18-2014 12:21 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  Her: yupp who is you???
Me: I have you as "drunken sex story she told me about on our last date" let's grab a drink at X
Her:Gahahah oh great. well I have work later and like 3 diff places I need to be tonight, but let's make it four
Her:Can we do Y? It's a bar by my place
Her:Just so I have time to sit for like 10 minutes between work and party time

I'd reply with, "Make it 11 minutes and you're on"

She's already set up an escape clause saying she has limited time, and partying to do, but she's giving you a chance, and if it goes well she may end up partying with you. PLUS, this is an internet chick, don't put much stock into what happens/doesn't happen.

(07-18-2014 12:36 PM)BarryInSF Wrote:  Unless she asks me a question that requires an immediate answer, I wait at least 12 hours before replying to a text or IM. 36 hours on average. Sometimes as long as a week. It gives me plenty of time to think of the perfect answer, and makes it clear that I'm not needy or desperate.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but this is awful advice. You should try to match your response time to hers, and occasionally respond much slower or faster to see how she reacts. If you wait 12-36 hours to respond to every message, she will likely lose interest.

(07-18-2014 02:37 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  I set up a date for tonight with some chick

Sounds like she wasn't into my choice because she mentioned eating some sushi.

I told her I would of already eaten by then and she responds with,'we'll you can still drink while I eat."

Told her we can reschedule for another day.

Anything I could of text differently? Only reason I totally didn't ignore her is because she is 21.

Ha, that's kind of weird, maybe she just doesn't like eating alone, or was just hoping you'd pay for her to eat sushi. I might've said something like "Oh OK, I didn't think of that." Then waited to see how she responded to a text that really gave her nothing to work with, mainly to see if she still pushed for a time to meet, etc. Might've still ended up rescheduling in the end though.

(07-18-2014 06:33 PM)CJ Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 12:21 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  Her: yupp who is you???
Me: I have you as "drunken sex story she told me about on our last date" let's grab a drink at X
Her:Gahahah oh great. well I have work later and like 3 diff places I need to be tonight, but let's make it four
Her:Can we do Y? It's a bar by my place
Her:Just so I have time to sit for like 10 minutes between work and party time

I'd reply with, "Make it 11 minutes and you're on"

She's already set up an escape clause saying she has limited time, and partying to do, but she's giving you a chance, and if it goes well she may end up partying with you. PLUS, this is an internet chick, don't put much stock into what happens/doesn't happen.

replied to her around 10pm, no reply. oh well I don't need to be her pregame of the night

10pm was probably too late... again though - internet chick, so I wouldn't put any stock into the results here.

(06-01-2014 09:49 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 09:43 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  She's shit testing the hell out of you to see how you respond and if you can 'handle' her.

She's trying to get you to qualify yourself to her. Instead, flip the frame. Make her qualify herself to you.

Go with your hunch.

Her response: Hahaha not really trying to make anything work

Same chick restarted me last night. She's been upstate working during the summer.

Her: I'll be around next weekend. Are you doing anything interesting?


Prior to this, she sent another strange text last week.

Her: So are we going to pretend text some more?
Me: ?

I'm talking to a girl on OKC and I open her with:

me: "How curvy?"

Her: I don't know how to answer that and that's kinda rude soooooooo

I'm not sure if she's closing me out, how to continue. Thanks bros.

^still sounds playful to me. Not a close out.

For background, this is the girl I met at the supermarket last week http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14130-...#pid789053

Quote:<last week>Me: Is this the girl who makes impulse purchases totally inappropriate for her car?
<today>Me: Hey <girl's name>, it's RockHard
<2 hours later>Her: Hello. I'm sorry I didn't text back earlier. I realized that I probably led you on ("snookered"?!) you without meaning to... I'm in a very happy relationship and felt bad that I didn't communicate that when I gave you my number, but I also didn't want to make assumptions about your intentions, so I wasn't sure what to say. Regardless, I am still extremely thankful for your help the other day and I will be sure to pay forward your kindness when I have the opportunity.

Now she's clearly trying to brush me off. I've had this happen before but never had any success recovering. Is there a good recovery here, should I embrace the friend zone and play long game, or should I just forget it?

Any suggestions? I'm not stuck on her and there's more where she came from, but I'd like to see if anyone has a solution. Also, if it makes a difference, I'm also in an LTR, so a side piece with an interest in discretion is ideal.

Delete.

^ I don't like that strategy here. Going direct via text on a day game pick-up is going to work less than 1% of the time... if that.

Your chances of recovery are super slim regardless though. I know plenty of girls that have lied about being in relationships before, because they were scared to say they weren't interested. Doesn't look like the case here. If you must follow up, go with a:

"No worries, let me know if you ever want to hang out (as friends)."

Yes you're lying, yes she knows that, but it gives her plausible deniability in her head and may make her think it's ok to hang out.

Personally, I wouldn't even bother, because the amount of work that will likely go into this could be better focused on other girls.

(07-28-2014 05:43 PM)CJ Wrote:  ^ I don't like that strategy here. Going direct via text on a day game pick-up is going to work less than 1% of the time... if that.

Your chances of recovery are super slim regardless though. I know plenty of girls that have lied about being in relationships before, because they were scared to say they weren't interested. Doesn't look like the case here. If you must follow up, go with a:

"No worries, let me know if you ever want to hang out (as friends)."

Yes you're lying, yes she knows that, but it gives her plausible deniability in her head and may make her think it's ok to hang out.

Personally, I wouldn't even bother, because the amount of work that will likely go into this could be better focused on other girls.

Yeah, as I saw it, it was
1. Ignore the text completely, next!
2. Hey, I'm in an LTR too, it's cool. (tried this a couple times before, never worked)
3. don't treat her objection seriously.

I went with option 3 and texted back "here I thought you'd given me a number that would spam me with "you've won the lottery!" texts"

My main sticking point with daygame is building some attraction to bring up when I contact her again. I thought I had done OK with that, but apparently not.

(07-20-2014 03:08 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 09:49 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  

(06-01-2014 09:43 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  She's shit testing the hell out of you to see how you respond and if you can 'handle' her.

She's trying to get you to qualify yourself to her. Instead, flip the frame. Make her qualify herself to you.

Go with your hunch.

Her response: Hahaha not really trying to make anything work

Same chick restarted me last night. She's been upstate working during the summer.

Her: I'll be around next weekend. Are you doing anything interesting?


Prior to this, she sent another strange text last week.

Her: So are we going to pretend text some more?
Me: ?

The lights are on but nobody's home...

Your reply: "I am hanging out with -x sexy adjective- girl (her), getting up to no good "

(07-28-2014 04:35 PM)RockHard Wrote:  For background, this is the girl I met at the supermarket last week http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14130-...#pid789053

Quote:<last week>Me: Is this the girl who makes impulse purchases totally inappropriate for her car?
<today>Me: Hey <girl's name>, it's RockHard
<2 hours later>Her: Hello. I'm sorry I didn't text back earlier. I realized that I probably led you on ("snookered"?!) you without meaning to... I'm in a very happy relationship and felt bad that I didn't communicate that when I gave you my number, but I also didn't want to make assumptions about your intentions, so I wasn't sure what to say. Regardless, I am still extremely thankful for your help the other day and I will be sure to pay forward your kindness when I have the opportunity.

Now she's clearly trying to brush me off. I've had this happen before but never had any success recovering. Is there a good recovery here, should I embrace the friend zone and play long game, or should I just forget it?

Any suggestions? I'm not stuck on her and there's more where she came from, but I'd like to see if anyone has a solution. Also, if it makes a difference, I'm also in an LTR, so a side piece with an interest in discretion is ideal.

You should re-frame and try and friendzone first if you really want to pursue.

"cool, I am sorry you misunderstood but perhaps we should just be pen-pals."

Let her hamster go crazy and don't respond again. Women remember this shit, if you ever see her again, the dynamic would have altered.

I got one.

Was out with my buddy this past Friday and this hot pair of chicks played pool next to our table. They asked us to play and the cute little readhead came right up to me and started touching me. Got her number and I text her today. Been going back and forth, a good interaction. For some reason she text me a link to a webpage of roosters. I said "wow, that's quite a collection of cocks there."
She text back "I see what you did there...there's a time and place for this nonsense." I told her "There is? Musta missed that memo." She said that's must've been what happened, then I asked for a rematch in pool tonight, 9pm. This was an hour ago (her longest time between texts before this was 5 minutes). Did I miss something?

(07-29-2014 03:08 PM)jbird669 Wrote:  I got one.

Was out with my buddy this past Friday and this hot pair of chicks played pool next to our table. They asked us to play and the cute little readhead came right up to me and started touching me. Got her number and I text her today. Been going back and forth, a good interaction. For some reason she text me a link to a webpage of roosters. I said "wow, that's quite a collection of cocks there."
She text back "I see what you did there...there's a time and place for this nonsense." I told her "There is? Musta missed that memo." She said that's must've been what happened, then I asked for a rematch in pool tonight, 9pm. This was an hour ago (her longest time between texts before this was 5 minutes). Did I miss something?

Probably was busy or wasn't interested. What exactly was this "going back and forth" conversation you were having ?

You could throw a restart text later this week.

Talked about a rematch at pool. Told me she wondered when she'd hear from me. Asked about my job, liked my response and said I was very interesting. Asked where I worked so she could promptly stalk me. Then the rooster link came.

(07-29-2014 09:21 AM)RockHard Wrote:  Yeah, as I saw it, it was
1. Ignore the text completely, next!
2. Hey, I'm in an LTR too, it's cool. (tried this a couple times before, never worked)
3. don't treat her objection seriously.

I went with option 3 and texted back "here I thought you'd given me a number that would spam me with "you've won the lottery!" texts"

My main sticking point with daygame is building some attraction to bring up when I contact her again. I thought I had done OK with that, but apparently not.

I don't like option 1 that much, but that's if I just stop completely (even if it's the right move) I don't get to test anything new, and get more information.

Option 2 is kinda sleazy and may work on a girl that you picked up from the bar, is at your place now and is giving LMR, but otherwise I'm not doing that because most girls will think you're a creep.

Option 3 is ideal. Gonna guess this one didn't respond though. You could try a restart text, might even be worth it for the research aspect, but don't spend too much time on this and go into that approach knowing full well you're extremely unlikely to bang this girl. You're just gauging what does and doesn't have a chance to work with zero consequences.

(07-29-2014 06:37 PM)jbird669 Wrote:  Talked about a rematch at pool. Told me she wondered when she'd hear from me. Asked about my job, liked my response and said I was very interesting. Asked where I worked so she could promptly stalk me. Then the rooster link came.

Ease up a bit... my formula has changed a bit over the years, and I HATE, HATE, HATE the idea of waiting a couple days to send the first text. I think it's stupid, gives the girl a chance to meet someone else/forget you, and ultimately increases your flake rate. That's why, I usually hit them up the following evening, unless I met them Thursday or Friday, then I do Saturday between 3 and 5.

Anyhow, while I try to keep things logistical, I normally don't suggest a date the first time I text a girl. Play a little of their stupid text games, just so they get more comfortable, possibly even work in a call.

My strategy is to talk about things we could do when we hang out, without suggesting an actual time, and hope that they ask "Well, when will we do that?" Now you have the green light, and they've got it in their heads they want to hang out and don't feel pressured to hang out. Doesn't work all the time, and in those cases shift gears, but when they ask, they'll almost never flake.

Setup a date for 8:30, text her at 5 saying ill call her when im out of the gym to roll out, its 7 right now. She texts me saying shes "running late, maybe 10 ?"

The place were going closes at 10.

Should i even respond, work with 10 for another place, counter her offer for another day?

Note: Ive got an easy lay i can fall back on tonight.

Is that place near your apartment? If so, maybe you can still meet near there, say you didn't know it would be closed, then use it as an excuse to bounce to your place?

Negatory, its right by my work (30 mins away from home). Close to her pad, doesn't live by herself, assuming with parents. Logistics seem to be a nightmare, I just wanna meet her face to face, it's an OKC match. Don't have much invested.

If you're not very invested, can you offer to meet somewhere closer to your place (a bar/lounge), cause you'll be home already by 10. If she agrees, fine, if not, whatever.

Texted a cute girl I danced with an number closed with Roosh standard "hey charlie its xxx how are you"

She didnt respond for one day. I was thinking next.

This morning she texted back with full details "Hi Im busy working and its hot in the office. Lucky u if u get to enjoy the outdoors"

Scratching my head right here.... Why did she wait one day to reply with a text that signal interest?

Anyway gonna ask her to go dance again. Wondering if I should inject something to address her text in additional to asking her out?

(07-29-2014 09:29 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  If you're not very invested, can you offer to meet somewhere closer to your place (a bar/lounge), cause you'll be home already by 10. If she agrees, fine, if not, whatever.

Jesus all my options fell through last night.

Anyways I told her around 7:30 that id be home by 10, cruise out this way and we'll grab a drink.

Fell asleep, around 11 she texts "haha. I got too drunk. I'm sorry" "And my phone died..."

I'm not gonna even bother texting back for a bit.

When I send a restart text should I leverage her flaking to plan a meetup ? or should I just ignore it and just hit her up to go out ?

I'm thinking I wait a day before I even text her back.