(06-07-2016 09:21 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  NBG means?

Non-Black girl

(06-07-2016 08:31 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 07:32 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 04:21 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Which might explain the epidemic of black men mean-mugging/sizing you up whenever you got a NBG on your arm. A look which is a mix of hate, curiosity and self-assesment like ... " I wonder what this guy is doing to get an NBG like that. Could I do the same?". Anybody else noticed that?

I'm guilty of doing this. Especially after living in nyc for these past few months. I'm training myself not to now.

You know you got black guys jealous when the black guy tries to hit on your girl right in front of you. I don't think I've ever seen a white guy hit on a girl in front of her BF, but I have seen black guys with the balls to hit on a girl in front of her BF.

I don't think thats limited to black guys, I think it has to do with how high the thirsty level is where you are at. I've seen white dudes do disrespectful shit like that to each other before out west. You don't see it on the east coast as much though.

^^ Can't say I've ever experienced that. Maybe once I left her side, but for someone to talk to my chick with me standing there, I'd have to be giving off some sort of moist energy to let the guy believe its' okay.

I've seen white guys do that to white guys, black guys do it to other black guys. It's disrespect every time, but usually the invader has the guy by twenty pounds.

Big bank take little bank.

Newb players/squares get flustered.
Game is required, but if it gets into a tough guy contest, you've lost even if you can beat him to a pulp.

We should talk offense and defense.
How to steal a chick, and how to defend

WIA

Sharp tongue will always do better than a hard fist.

My insults cut below the skin and rarely does my opponent have a comeback, I don"t usually get into those altercations.

I ruined a good suit years ago over an altercation that some broad started, lesson learnt.

I am a firm believer in frame, body language and carrying yourself in a positive manner.

Speaking of tough guy contests. It took years of wisdom for me to know when/how to diffuse confrontations. Probably one of the reasons violence towards one another is so prevalent amount young cats.
A few years aback, I was exiting a club when the young man in front of me stops abruptly and I bump into him and step on his shoes (typical point of aggression in our community). He vehemently expresses his dissatisfaction and the seemingly disrespect I showed to have bumped into him, lol. Through I could have argued the point that he was the one that stopped in the middle of foot traffic, I extend my hand and said "sorry brother, I meant no disrespect."
While I stood there with my hand extended, I could see the confusion on his face and the inability to process the chain of events with the hood logic he was used to.
Afterwards, his associate came up to me and said he'd never seen anything like that before and how is friend is usually a hot-head who never backs down.
It amazes me how simple minded an aggressive young cats can be. However, in my younger days, I doubt the situation would have ended the same.

Does it take awhile for everyone to get this?

I'm more of a mind to hit him where he doesn't expect by shifting the social power back to myself.

Undercut his strength by complimenting it.
By stealing his thunder by talking about his ambitions openly.

I want him to strut in confidently, and then wonder "what the hell just happened, girls are usually into me..."

WIA

(06-09-2016 01:07 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  Speaking of tough guy contests. It took years of wisdom for me to know when/how to diffuse confrontations. Probably one of the reasons violence towards one another is so prevalent amount young cats.
A few years aback, I was exiting a club when the young man in front of me stops abruptly and I bump into him and step on his shoes (typical point of aggression in our community). He vehemently expresses his dissatisfaction and the seemingly disrespect I showed to have bumped into him, lol. Through I could have argued the point that he was the one that stopped in the middle of foot traffic, I extend my hand and said "sorry brother, I meant no disrespect."
While I stood there with my hand extended, I could see the confusion on his face and the inability to process the chain of events with the hood logic he was used to.
Afterwards, his associate came up to me and said he'd never seen anything like that before and how is friend is usually a hot-head who never backs down.
It amazes me how simple minded an aggressive young cats can be. However, in my younger days, I doubt the situation would have ended the same.

Does it take awhile for everyone to get this?

So unnecessary.... I remember growing up around kids like this. Sounds like a very short life.

Dimebait - That is always the best option, take the high road. To answer your question, yes it takes awhile and sadly some people never get the lesson.

I was in a strip club a few years back, I was having a good time at the bar with my mate and a few gals.

This young black kid comes to the bar and starts mean mugging hard, looks like he wants to go at me. In a split second, i called the bartenders name and told her to get this man another drink. He wasn't use to that, his face literally went from sour to being surprised. I handed him his Coors lite and tapped his bottle to say cheers, he was grateful.

At the end of the night, he was all over me being nice and offered to buy me a drink. I told him I was cool and to be safe.

When I grew up, fighting with fists was the norm and there was a certain respect. Today it is a different ball game, my skin ain't bulletproof and I'm not ready to go to jail or be killed over something trivial.

(06-07-2016 05:06 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  ^ Yep class plays a huge factor.

But location matters more. If you're black on the East Coast even upper-middle class you'll never be 100% accepted. You're still seen as 'black". That attitude doesn't exist out west. West of the Mississippi is always better than East. The Eastern seaboard of the US is extremely segregated along with cities like KC, Chicago and all the former Industrial Rustbelt cities like Akron & Flint. Cities like Boston, Baltimore and Philly still have ethnic neighborhood like Irish, Jewish, Italian, Black etc ... Same with Chicago Poles and Irish.

Western states from the upper midwestern farming states (Iowa, Minnesota,NB ) to the rocky mountain states ( Colorado, Idaho,Utah, AZ), the Dakotas & all the way to Cali-Oregon- Washington don't have the same rooted identities. Anyone who moves there can fit in easily into the white majority which makes dating a lot easier. I believe Canada is similar in that regard.

I went to school West of the Mississippi, somewhat rural 90% white. Most of my friends from back home went to school in Virginia and Maryland. They had one or two white friends at best.

They join all black frats or sororities @ UMD or VCU, the Ethiopian Student Association and only listen to Hip-Hop. Some of them visited me over X-mas break and whenever a white chick was interested in them, they didn't even know how to react. The possibility of a blonde haired, blue-eyed chick being into them was somewhat outside their reality. (Also noticed blonde hair is pedestalized out east since most white immigration was Jewish, Italian, English and Irish) as opposed to out west where everyone is of German ancestry.)

I think Vinman mentioned something similar with some Swedish chicks when he was younger.

From someone who came from the Mid-Atlantic to the Mountain West, this is 110% true. In the four months I've been here, I've had twice the lays here than I had in the last year of being on the East Coast. Not that I seek out acceptance from any race in general, but life is easier in general for a black man the more West you go within the US. Don't let the Liberal/Conservative paradigm trick you either. I moved from a hardcore liberal part of America to a hardcore conservative one, and the resistance I've had to getting with NBG and the overall racism I've faced has declined. The worst thing I have to fight is sunburn and boredom. Now it's still America where some of the racial hangups are present and I still have to deal with some the general feminist BS, but they pale in comparison to what I dealt with on the East Coast. And on a political note, I'm strongly considering riding it out in the state long term if Hillary gets elected.

Although there are a few gems east of the Mississippi where I had the fortune to experience like Northern VA and Montgomery/Howard Counties in Maryland, those places are the exception and to be honest, would fit better in places like California, Colorado, Washington state, and even Texas. Luckily I experienced those places post-Southern influence and pre-Northeastern invasion when they were very racially integrated and welcoming...even for blacks. After experiencing life in those areas and being exposed to dating and fucking girls of all races, you learn that minus a few sexual quirks between the races, chicks are chicks and pussy is pussy. I never got the logic of black men, especially in-shape ones, showing off fat NBG like they won something. It's one of those things - other than seeing NBG and their biracial children without their black fathers - that makes my blood boil. But then again, I've never been into fat chicks in general.

^ Glad to see somebody else agreeing with me.

Fuck liberals man. All those liberal states in the NorthEast are fucking racist. I have NEVER experienced racism in any of the rednecky states I went to school and worked in deep Red states. Open minded fantastic people out in the mid-west and south. Really got a soft spot for those guys. I've worked in Midland-Odessa Texas, Watford City, North Dakota and Casper, Wyoming ... supervised rednecks and drank/partied with them.

Me and a Nigerian Engineer buddy of mine have hung out & partied with redneck dudes who have the confederate flag posted on their front porch. Not a single ounce of racism man. They treat you like equals not like some exotic animal.

I've also done an exchange semester in D.C. But despite their "progressive" political affiliations, those people will never accept you. You will always be an outsider. They look down on you under the guise of respect, like an exotic animal ... "Oh Woooow, you're from Ethiopia!!! We love Ethiopian food. That's nice, we were actually planning on adopting an Ethiopian baby!!!". You're either an outsider or some pet they could feel superior to. If you have pride & refuse to fall into those categories they will hate you.

Huge part of the reason I'm a Republican/Libertarian.

Would never vote for a bunch of liberal racists and cucks. Fuck 'em.

(06-10-2016 04:12 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  ^ Glad to see somebody else agreeing with me.

Fuck liberals man. All those liberal states in the NorthEast are fucking racist. I have NEVER experienced racism in any of the rednecky states I went to school and worked in deep Red states. Open minded fantastic people out in the mid-west and south. Really got a soft spot for those guys. I've worked in Midland-Odessa Texas, Watford City, North Dakota and Casper, Wyoming ... supervised rednecks and drank/partied with them.

Me and a Nigerian Engineer buddy of mine have hung out & partied with redneck dudes who have the confederate flag posted on their front porch. Not a single ounce of racism man. They treat you like equals not like some exotic animal.

I've also done an exchange semester in D.C. But despite their "progressive" political affiliations, those people will never accept you. You will always be an outsider. They look down on you under the guise of respect, like an exotic animal ... "Oh Woooow, you're from Ethiopia!!! We love Ethiopian food. That's nice, we were actually planning on adopting an Ethiopian baby!!!". You're either an outsider or some pet they could feel superior to. If you have pride & refuse to fall into those categories they will hate you.

Huge part of the reason I'm a Republican/Libertarian.

Would never vote for a bunch of liberal racists and cucks. Fuck 'em.

I was just saying how I like southern whites over northern whites. In the south if they like you, then they like you. If they don't they won't even acknowledge your existence. There's no faking it or passive aggressive3 bullshit. You will always know where you stand.

It seems like many of the red-pill conscious brothers in this thread have a common trait . . . you all seem to have traveled and lived in different parts of the/a country.

How do you think your geographical mobility has played into your game?

(06-10-2016 11:26 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  It seems like many of the red-pill conscious brothers in this thread have a common trait . . . you all seem to have traveled and lived in different parts of the/a country.

How do you think your geographical mobility has played into your game?

When you travel a lot, each place you visit leaves a mark on you - whether you like it not, mostly subconsiously. You'll become more worldly and could shoot the shit and have something in common with almost anyone ... which can help with game. I recently banged an Israeli girl who was not into me at first. When I greeted her in Hebrew and seemed to know a lot about her country she was shocked. Her friend was about to cockblock me (some white girl from Minnesota). I diffused the situation by talking to her about her small town which I've drove through and how nice people were in her state. She started jumping up ad down asking me how I knew so much about her town. So I went from random black guy hitting on them to an insider within 3 minutes. They even bought me drinks.

It helps with men as well. You'll know to tune up or tone down certain personality traits with different groups of people. I live in middle America & when I party with guys my age I talk like an Arizona State white frat boy. Don't use SAT words and dress more Levis, V-neck & baseball cap. That attitude changes completely when I visit my Ethiopian friends in D.C and their Howard U/Hampton U/Spelman College crowd black friends.

But the problem is that guys start not truly belonging anywhere. I really envy people who are solidly "from" somewhere. One of my favorite posters, Jariel for example ... seems to not have traveled a lot. But he seems to have deep roots in Miami. Born & raised there, works there, knows all the best spots and people - it's easier to have a stronger sense of self, be an expert and have your city on lockdown that way. Christian McQueen is a Vegas and L.A expert. His roots run deep in those cities. Kona is a Hawaii expert.

^Most guys who hop around a lot tend to not have that advantage of "insider game". There is a certain confidence that comes with being in the environment you were raised in - knowing the ins and outs etc ... You're also more attuned to the mentality of the girls you're dealing with that way.

So yeah it's a mixed bag.

(06-10-2016 12:34 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 11:26 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  It seems like many of the red-pill conscious brothers in this thread have a common trait . . . you all seem to have traveled and lived in different parts of the/a country.

How do you think your geographical mobility has played into your game?

I recently banged an Israeli girl who was not into me at first. When I greeted her in Hebrew and seemed to know a lot about her country she was shocked. Her friend was about to cockblock me (some white girl from Minnesota). I diffused the situation by talking to her about her small town which I've drove through and how nice people were in her state. She started jumping up ad down asking me how I knew so much about her town. So I went from random black guy hitting on them to an insider within 3 minutes. They even bought me drinks.

Black Man Surprise Game at work!

Every time I talk to an Asian girl I bust out the "I-used-to-teach-in-Thailand" line as soon as I naturally can. Never more than 5 minutes, and that might even be too long. Though sometimes I like to keep it to myself as long as possible so it can make a bigger impact, and so I can privately laugh at how wide their eyes get.

No matter where they are from, they are impressed. The shift in the conversation dynamic is palpable - they start asking me a question or two when previously I was asking more about them.

I should start carrying around pictures too.

I have a lot to learn and I'm looking forward to learning more.

How many of you guys are proud Americans?

In my travels down south to the Caribbean, I have come across a few non black Americans. They always seem so shocked when I know about their country and the city they live in.

To the point Anabasis made, nothing beats being a well traveled black man. Travel stories captivates most lizards, one in particular (black) made a comment that I must being doing well to be able to travel to these places. I am a good saver

^Is it wrong that I kind of enjoy how low the bar seems to be for American black men?

It's hard to tell, but I feel like it's easier to impress people with my accomplishments, and maybe girls more than guys.

(06-10-2016 01:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  How many of you guys are proud Americans?

In my travels down south to the Caribbean, I have come across a few non black Americans. They always seem so shocked when I know about their country and the city they live in.

To the point Anabasis made, nothing beats being a well traveled black man. Travel stories captivates most lizards, one in particular (black) made a comment that I must being doing well to be able to travel to these places. I am a good saver

I am, although I'm not a natural born citizen. I came here when I was 8.

My home country (Guyana) is a shit hole. I visited last year and I wanted to leave as soon as I got there. I remember when I got out of the airport the first thing my cousin said to me was, "Hold on to your luggage tightly." I thought Brownsville (one of the worst areas in Brooklyn) was a shit hole, but it pales in comparison to Georgetown.

It's made me appreciate living in the U.S. a lot more. I have opportunities that the average Guyanese citizen probably never will. I don't have any ancestral ties to this country, but I'd gladly risk my life for it if push comes to shove.

^ Oh wow any intel on Indo-Guyanese women? There is very little information about Guyana out there, could you possibly do a mini datasheet? I have a weakness for part black/part Indian Guyanese & Trindadian women who look like Nicki Minaj. Are there a lot of 'em running around in Georgetown?

^I like where this thread is going.

(06-10-2016 01:38 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  ^Is it wrong that I kind of enjoy how low the bar seems to be for American black men?

"Kind of enjoy" was the wrong wording. More like:

Is it wrong that I sometimes take advantage of how low the bar seems to be for American black men?

(06-10-2016 03:14 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 01:38 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  ^Is it wrong that I kind of enjoy how low the bar seems to be for American black men?

"Kind of enjoy" was the wrong wording. More like:

Is it wrong that I sometimes take advantage of how low the bar seems to be for American black men?

That's probably a better way to state it.
I won't lie, it took a LOT for me to get to where I am and I don't think the average cornball could have done it given what I was faced with.

Given that, I wear my achievements like an S on my chest!

(06-10-2016 02:38 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  snip

Spike has an excellent data sheet on Guyana. Choichoi also added some good info. There's not much that I disagree with.

One thing I will add though is that Guyanese women love American men (especially if you're white, so all my white brothers take note), which makes it easier to fuck them. You know how American girls love British guys' accent? Well, they love ours. Day gaming (I didn't go to any clubs but I imagine it'd be much easier too) there is like shooting fish in a barrel.

The kind of girls you're referring to (we call them 'dougla') you will find mostly in affluent parts of Georgetown. You don't see them that often. But if you want to see more girls like that regularly, you'll have to leave Georgetown and head to places like Berbice and Essequibo. Georgetown is mostly populated with Afro-Guyanese.

I'm heading back later this year so I'll write a proper, up to date data sheet then. But from what I've seen much hasn't changed since Spike wrote his, so it should suffice.

(06-10-2016 03:31 PM)Huey Wrote:  

(06-10-2016 02:38 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  snip

Spike has an excellent data sheet on Guyana. Choichoi also added some good info. There's not much that I disagree with.

One thing I will add though is that Guyanese women love American men (especially if you're white, so all my white brothers take note), which makes it easier to fuck them. You know how American girls love British guys' accent? Well, they love ours. Day gaming (I didn't go to any clubs but I imagine it'd be much easier too) there is like shooting fish in a barrel.

The kind of girls you're referring to (we call them 'dougla') you will find mostly in affluent parts of Georgetown. You don't see them that often. But if you want to see more girls like that regularly, you'll have to leave Georgetown and head to places like Berbice and Essequibo. Georgetown is mostly populated with Afro-Guyanese.

I'm heading back later this year so I'll write a proper, up to date data sheet then. But from what I've seen much hasn't changed since Spike wrote his, so it should suffice.

Guyanese chicks like Spanish dudes too haha. There's a bunch of them around NYC, probably my favorite black girls by far. There dancing is most sexual I've ever seen. Went to club in Nyc with all Guyanese girls, I swear I dry humped every chick there.

(06-10-2016 01:14 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  Black Man Surprise Game at work!

Every time I talk to an Asian girl I bust out the "I-used-to-teach-in-Thailand" line as soon as I naturally can. Never more than 5 minutes, and that might even be too long. Though sometimes I like to keep it to myself as long as possible so it can make a bigger impact, and so I can privately laugh at how wide their eyes get.

No matter where they are from, they are impressed. The shift in the conversation dynamic is palpable - they start asking me a question or two when previously I was asking more about them.

I should start carrying around pictures too.

You should.

What's worked for me is having a couple high quality pictures on my phone. Almost like a Tinder profile pic but ones I plan on showing girls @ bars & clubs. If the chick is the spiritual type, I have 3 or 4 pics on my phone doing Qigong and Tai-chi. One alone, second one outside in nature by a cliff or something etc ...If she wants to talk travel, I got the same. 1 pic partying with British slags in Cyprus, another doggystyling the Manhattan bull statue ... stuff like that.

2 advantages

1) It's easier to manipulate a girl's opinion of you that way.

2) For some reason it makes the girl feel like she knows you more. Pics of have a way of conveying more. Just make sure your pics are of you DOING stuff, not just posing infront of the Eiffel Tower or stuff like that. That's girl territory. Men do, women just are. You can't do a lot in a bar- just talk, so if she sees pics of you doing stuff it will increase attractiveness.

It's got the same effectiveness as quick venue changes when it comes to faking familiarity.