(05-27-2016 10:09 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  ^Informative write up. Question, when you say indigenous, what does that mean in terms of looks and body? good/bad/so-so?

"Quality of women varies, Northern Mexico tends to have the more euro looking women, central mexico is a little more mixed, southern mexico is very indigenous. The more indigenous dominant trend continues into Guatemala, in El Salvador things start to get more Euro mixed again."

Forget about Pocahontas types.


Indigenous is generally bad when it is unmixed in Latin America. The Indians in South America are nothing like the Indians in North America. North American Indians (Cherokee, Iroquois, Seminole, etc) tend to be taller and slender. Central American Indians (Maya, Aztec,Quechua,etc) are shorter and have spongebob type bodies. And when I say short I mean like 5'1.

Of course exceptions exist and I have easily bagged a couple cute predominately indigenous chicks. They can have cute faces and are slim when they are young like 18-22. But they generally have flat asses and once they gain weight it all goes to their stomach and shoulders, not butt and boobs like it *might* on a Sista or white girl.

I seen some of those types around my parts. Was taking Spanish lessons from a Peruvian lizard who had a bang belly, small tits and a flat ass. Also saw that type of build in Houston (but also much more fantastic frames!).

Texas has a lot of those kind. They look so sweet when young, but damn, it's a shame when they get old and fat. Some of them have like a negative ass or something.

With those latinas, go for the young ones.

It's all about genes though. The ladies are usually damn short, and someone who is paying attention could tell they are stocky.

(05-28-2016 03:00 PM)Soundbyte Wrote:  Texas has a lot of those kind. They look so sweet when young, but damn, it's a shame when they get old and fat. Some of them have like a negative ass or something.

I nearly passed out reading that. "Negative Ass" should become a thing.

But it's true and a perfect description of Native American ass. It's like their asses suck inward. It's almost like their asses are clinically depressed & got a permanent frown for what white people did to them hundreds of years ago.

Prototype ...



Absolutely disgusting.

Man, I live in the Southwest and completely co-sign on the Mexican woman and their impending obesity. As soon as they have a kid or two, it's a wrap. In all honesty though, in my experience, Mexicans here are profoundly under-educated and seemingly racist, and the women are terrified to kick it with black dudes. The higher socioeconomic status they have the more liberated they seem to be, but those seem to be few and far between. That's why I was surprised to hear about all love Brothers were getting in Mexico City. However, I've also been told that MC is vastly different from the more northern and border towns populated with more indigenous people. Oddly enough I just got some head from a Mexican chick this weekend that went on and on about how much she loved black guys and has had to endure smaller endowed jealous men her whole life, lol.

The Native chicks love black dudes where I'm from. In my experience, they are generally easy going, submissive and love to please their men. However they get fat really easy and finding slim Native chicks are like diamonds in the rough. The negative camber ass is a reality though, lol.

Hey.

I've been thinking a lot about how I'm gonna find the "right woman" to start a family with. I never used to think about this stuff but of late, I'm haunted by these thoughts. I am somewhat worried, as most of my friends are single and don't seem to get anything more than casual hook-ups. I do not see things changing massively over the next decade or so.

(1) Twenty-five is too young to think about this stuff?
(2) Better to keep on aiming to stack that paper?


As a young man, who still believes that a nuclear and conservative household is the best way to raise kids, what can I do to make this dream a reality?* Don't you worry! I'm still aiming to enjoy the last days of Rome and get me mine but in the future, I don't think I'll continue that way.


TDK

* No conversions to Islam

^ Yes, especially at your age, stacking paper comes first - you probably don't have much at your age. Obviously, continue to develop your Game, but also start to make moves to make a family of your own a reality, whether that be moving to a more conservative city in the US (such as Salt Lake City) or abroad.

(05-30-2016 11:46 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Hey.

I've been thinking a lot about how I'm gonna find the "right woman" to start a family with. I never used to think about this stuff but of late, I'm haunted by these thoughts. I am somewhat worried, as most of my friends are single and don't seem to get anything more than casual hook-ups. I do not see things changing massively over the next decade or so.

(1) Twenty-five is too young to think about this stuff?
(2) Better to keep on aiming to stack that paper?


As a young man, who still believes that a nuclear and conservative household is the best way to raise kids, what can I do to make this dream a reality?* Don't you worry! I'm still aiming to enjoy the last days of Rome and get me mine but in the future, I don't think I'll continue that way.


TDK

* No conversions to Islam

Im 35... So I remember this time well.. my advice:

Right now is NOT the time to be worrying about that... Now its the time to worry about stacking paper... When I say "stacking paper" I mean not just working but working to build a sustainable and forward moving career or figure out how to setup a business of your own. Either those or work on finishing up that bachelors/masters degree. When you are 35 like me you still will be able to reach down and grab up 25 year old girls and travel.

Set yourself up now while you are younger.. have the energy and drive to do it. You can start a business in your life of course but now is the best time because you have the least amount of responsibility and it doesn't matter if because at 25 you arent expected to have much anyway.

A family and long term relationship will distract you (in my opinion).

I can only relate my experiences

1) Looking for Mrs. Archie
- Been down that road seriously 3 times since learning game
- Finding a hot chick with a degree/smarts/intelligence and various other tangible qualities is not as hard as people make it out to be. Throw in a good meshing personality, if you're doing #'s and making social connections - it's fairly easy.

But having had 3 relationships fail. No game, not enough game, too much game - I realized that I actually had a problem with monogamous LTR's. I could keep it in my pants. Sex, or lack thereof, was not the issue.

I've expressed this lately in the past few months, but part of the problem of game is that it is possible to stay one step ahead of your chick. Intermediate and Advanced Game, Patrice O'Neal level, shows you how to teach a chick and get her on your team, and keep her. And if you know the game, you understand the weaknesses of letting one chick rule you. So you take steps to avoid it. Dread game, keeping your social skills sharp, keeping your friends, staying connected with a community - not falling into a the abyss of a relationship that most men find themselves.

But for what?

What's at the end of the rainbow?

I can tell you this, it's not a pot of gold.

2) Chasing money.

I've been chasing paper seriously since the turn of the century. Real Estate, Stock, getting a better education to make more money. Internet sales and schemes.

I've lived high on the hog. Nice crib, nice furnishings, nice clothes, eat what I want, drive the car I wanted.

I can tell you now that consumption of material goods and services gives me indigestion. I remember the day that it happened. April 5th, 2007. I was watching someone else consume and it made me sick. Like watching a fat person overeat. Guilt comes with every purchase for me.

However, that's not real problem with the money chase.

It's that the path set out by society is one that does not lead to money.

I've spent thousands of hours building other people's fortunes, and a tenth of the time building my own. I was using after tax dollars and after hours labor. I was trying to do everything. The design, the programming, the sales, everything. I had employed myself....but i still had an employee mindset.

I had put my consumer mindset away to some extent, but my employee mindset, my expert, my technical mind - I can't do anything that will 10x my own output.

And that's when things started to change for me. Every endeavor i've been in, has been me pretending to be an entrepreneur but acting like an employee.

So 25 is not too young to be thinking about money vs bitches.

However, its a false dichotomy.

Society has programmed all of us to think that we need these things to feel complete.

Game deprograms you if you let it.

Do I need money? Do I need the things and experiences money can buy?

Do I need a wife? What is having a woman in your life constantly doing for you?

That's a question you have to answer for yourself.

Questioning those things have made my desire for them to be much less. Money is a tool. A woman in your life is there for companionship and affection, but sex and resurrection of your genes through children is there as well.

But most of all, I don't want those things because society has told me I needed them to feel complete.

I had them. They didn't make me feel complete. In fact, they took away from my sense of self. The god damn career robbed me of my 30's. The chicks, as nice as beautiful as they were, got me involved in their own fucking drama.

I found that what I wanted wasn't within those two institutions.

WIA

(05-30-2016 11:46 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Hey.

I've been thinking a lot about how I'm gonna find the "right woman" to start a family with. I never used to think about this stuff but of late, I'm haunted by these thoughts. I am somewhat worried, as most of my friends are single and don't seem to get anything more than casual hook-ups. I do not see things changing massively over the next decade or so.

(1) Twenty-five is too young to think about this stuff?
(2) Better to keep on aiming to stack that paper?


As a young man, who still believes that a nuclear and conservative household is the best way to raise kids, what can I do to make this dream a reality?* Don't you worry! I'm still aiming to enjoy the last days of Rome and get me mine but in the future, I don't think I'll continue that way.


TDK

* No conversions to Islam

(05-21-2016 08:36 PM)Fortis Wrote:  ^ a lot of that will depend on your price range as well as where you live. I like selvedge jeans but don't swear that shit in super hot weather. Your balls will literally sweat.

Just saw this post.

Selvedge jeans are fantastic. If you're sweating you're balls off try some jack Black Dry Down powder. Doesn't stain your underwear like regular baby powder. You could be sweating like a Dubai Porta Potty during confession at church but your balls will remain so dry you could strike a match on 'em.



As for most jeans, they are understandably made for white men. Black men have tiny & high calves, bigger hamstrings and more muscular & higher positioned gluteus maximus which renders most jeans impossible to fit perfectly. I've found that regular bootleg cuts from Lee or Levi's work best for black men. None of that Levi 511 shit.

(05-31-2016 04:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  snip

Consider this, gents.

WIA, a respected Game figure on this forum, ultimately chose not to pursue LTRs in the West.

Meanwhile, at the RoK meetup in Warsaw, of the roughly dozen local Polish guys who showed up (aged about 20 to 40), almost all of them were in LTRs or married. And they admitted they were much more into politics than Game. I should also add that I and another American - forum member Nick - also had girlfriends, and we're at least Game intermediates.

Let that sink in.

P.S. Also didn't know WIA was at least 40:

(05-31-2016 04:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  The god damn career robbed me of my 30's.

@262 - When I talk to my mates in Europe, money is usually the prime topic that is discussed then women.

When I go for a drink with my mates in Canada, talking about women or some dude who is going through a painful divorce is the only topic. There might be a slight mention about money, John picked up a Porsche or Henry bought some land up north. I know a multi-millionaire, he told me the other day he was depressed.

Guys in Europe get married and generally stay married to the same woman. I am sure in Poland when Andrzej marries Ewa, she is thinking of spending her life with him.
All the topics that are discussed on this forum would be foreign to them, like divorce rape and SJWs.

Visiting Europe, Game is not needed. You need time and a bit of money to be able to stay for two weeks minimum to fully enjoy the place.

In Toronto, you need the stars to be aligned. Super tight game, status and god knows what else to game a 6 or 7.

(06-01-2016 05:41 AM)262 Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 04:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  snip

Consider this, gents.

WIA, a respected Game figure on this forum, ultimately chose not to pursue LTRs in the West.

Meanwhile, at the RoK meetup in Warsaw, of the roughly dozen local Polish guys who showed up (aged about 20 to 40), almost all of them were in LTRs or married. And they admitted they were much more into politics than Game. I should also add that I and another American - forum member Nick - also had girlfriends, and we're at least Game intermediates.

Let that sink in.

P.S. Also didn't know WIA was at least 40:

(05-31-2016 04:44 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  The god damn career robbed me of my 30's.

Was the ROK meeting the same as the ROK comments section?

What is the comments section like?

@rudebwoy - As a foreigner (no matter your skin color) you still need Game in Europe, especially Western Europe, but local guys obviously seem to do fine. My guess is they meet their girls the way our dads met our moms - through social circles they were already in.

@DjembaDjemba & @Moma - Hehe, nah. The difference between the RoK meetup and the RoK comments section is similar to the difference between forum members meeting and the forum itself, though obviously the RoK comments section starts at a less moderated level, to put it politely.

262, what kind of game is needed in Western Europe? What is the results of bad game in Europe? You hear of guys in Western Europe complaining that they can't get puss? I'm just asking, I never knew it to be the case. If you notice, this forum has a fair amount of European guys and I never hear a peep in complaints to the decline of the lizards. Even the black guys on this thread in Europe have no complaints. That's like an American guy complaining that he can't find a fat chick to ogle in the United States.

^ As a foreigner (again, no matter your skin color), since you don't have the social circle ties that the local guys do (no matter their skin color), you'll either need Game or time to build said ties. That, coupled with the lower obesity, improves the situation for Europeans, even Western Europeans.

We do have a few Europeans on the forum, but from my observations on the ground after a year, most of them stick to their own scenes, either for language or cultural reasons. Here in Poland, for instance, RSD has on-line and off-line materials and meetings - in Polish. And even in English-speaking UK and Ireland, my guess is those guys (like an English cousin I have) mostly stick to their local scene, most likely the London Game scene.

Another difference between the US and Western Europe is the flavor of feminism. The US version is a bit more confrontational than the Western European one - think where you'll hear, "I don't need no man!"

All the above being said, don't get the idea that Western Europe is pussy paradise. There's a reason London guys like Krauser come to Eastern Europe, and there's a reason a good number of the forum members in Eastern Europe are from Western Europe.

(06-02-2016 03:23 AM)Moma Wrote:  262, what kind of game is needed in Western Europe? What is the results of bad game in Europe? You hear of guys in Western Europe complaining that they can't get puss? I'm just asking, I never knew it to be the case. If you notice, this forum has a fair amount of European guys and I never hear a peep in complaints to the decline of the lizards. Even the black guys on this thread in Europe have no complaints. That's like an American guy complaining that he can't find a fat chick to ogle in the United States.

As an American black guy living in Germany the only complaint I have here is that the higher end girls here seem extremely hard to get and aren't interested in us. I prefer girls 8 and up and seems most of the girls who will give black men a run are in 7 and below range. So theres lizards to be had and I would say its def easier then the East Coast of America (where I am from) but its no pussy paradise.

262 - tell me more what "game" you use in Europe? Why would I need to be part of a social circle?

I am sure you are aware that Moma and I were born in the UK and lived there for several years. So we are not talking out of our arses or talking politics when we live in our mothers basement.
I have traveled Europe quite a bit and met quite a few girls, not all did I bang. We can talk feminism, obesity, RSD, skin colour (funny since I never mentioned skin colour) but WE both know that women in Europe have less hang ups and are much easier to deal with.

As for Krauser, no comment.

Kirdiesel - the only thing stopping you from getting a 8 or above in Germany is status and money. Germany we can agree on is a favourable spot for the black man, I know Americans and Africans who have done well there. The few times I passed through Germany, I had the opportunity to game very nice looking girls.

The last time I was in Germany (Nuremburg Airport), I was sitting in the departure lounge waiting for my plane back to London. I could feel eyes on me, I glanced to the right and saw two blonde Lufthansa flight attendants staring at me like I was Tyson Beckford. Trust me I look nothing like him.

I wish rudebwoy was my travel agent, lol. Already PM'd you about Iceland and I'm considering messaging you again about Germany too!

Riffing off what KirDiesel said about not being able to get better than a 7 in Germany

7's and 8's vs 9's and 10's

What are your thoughts?

WIA

I'll take a solid down to earth 7 or 8 any day. As the homie TK Kirkland said, when you go from a Geo to Lambo you have to expect your insurance will go up. Simply put, 10's do come with a higher cost of ownership, lol.

Thanks for the kind words Walkingman, PM any time.

The only problem with Germany and Western Europe is the cost, Eastern/Central Europe are much cheaper and offer better value. I believe Roosh wrote that he lived on $1500 per month during the time he was posted up in Poland.

In Croatia, I spent like $40 a night for a nice small loft in the capital. In hindsight, I was a 20 minute walk from the main square and needed to be closer.

Last time in Sweden, I dropped $250 per night on a hotel and beer in a glass at the club cost me $15, so not exactly a place I will be running back too.

I have been on a bit of a break, itching to get on the plane again and check out some new frontiers. It seems like it is even easier now to meet local women, just fire up your Tinder and have them meet you at the airport or at your apartment when you land. Would you call that "game"?

@Archie - Does the 8 or 9 have a personality and what can she do for me?

If she has attitude and doesn't think her shit doesn't stink, then it is a complete turn-off.

I prefer a 6 with a 9 body, 69 if you will.

I wouldn't call it game. I can fire up Tinder right now and some fat chicks will check for me.

As Shotgun once said, I'm a player not a dog catcher.

WIA