Well now that I received this email from the Thor God Donald himself - it is time for me to go enjoy a victory Cigar!

First, I just want to say that when I was 20 years old I was poking holes in the ocean as a team member on a fast attack (my avatar pic) that was the nuclear tip on the razor sharp edge of the Sword of Freedom.

Since Harry S. Truman had the balls to vaporize a couple Imperial Japanese cities to bring our last major World war to a decisive unconditional surrender VICTORY, Donald Trump is the first man I trust to do right by America and Americans while wielding the same Sword of FREEDOM! Unlike the Obamuninst unilateral nuclear disarmament apologist in chief who pissed on the graves of all of our forefathers who died in WWII and since by apologizing at Hiroshima at ground zero just before memorial day.

As Trump says you have to keep your adversaries and enemies guessing and unsure of your next move. Ancient wisdom really: "Keep your plans as dark as night and when you move - move like lightning!" Will he or won't he NUKE us - rather have that going through ISIS, Al Qaeda and Taliban minds rather than that incompetent Obama who tips his hat and lets them know when he is pulling out - likely why Michelle is planning to divorce him after the girls graduate College. Does not want to give up their Secret Service protection just yet.

I would honestly rather die fighting for Mr. Trump to be our next POTUS than live under that malignant globalist anti-American traitor cunt Hillary and what she plans to do to destroy our sacred constitution and beloved country.

Yes, there are still some of us left with warrior blood lines. Enjoy a victory cigar and scotch chaser to the memory of our warrior ancestors this Father's Day weekend - in my case my Dad who served on US Navy Fleet Attack diesel subs in the Pacific in WWII and was called back for Korea.

Enjoy this email from a most worthy man for us to support to the benefit of All Americans.

Donald J. Trump <[email protected]> Jun 16 at 3:58 PM
To:
Deepdiver

http://www.DonaldJTrump.com

- JUNE 16TH, 2016 -
ONE YEAR AGO: THE START OF A MOVEMENT

Dear Deepdiver,

A year ago today, many of you joined me at Trump Tower in calling for real change in Washington, D.C. I am proud to say that with your support we are well on our way to Making America Great Again! Since the moment I rode down the escalator on June 16th, 2015 and decided to run for president, my campaign has been filled with nothing but excitement, dedication, and passion to change our country for the better – and this is only the beginning of our movement!

Yesterday in Atlanta, Georgia we had thousands of loving supporters. Earlier in the campaign we had a record-setting rally in Mobile, Alabama with over 30,000 attendees who joined our movement to Make America Great Again. I am honored and proud to lead our fight to put America first. This past year, I have traveled this great country and met many incredible Americans at our rallies.

The Republican primary began with 17 experienced and talented candidates for president. Following the debate at the Ronald Reagan Library on September 16th, your overwhelming support showed that our campaign has the message that resonates with hard-working Americans and that the DC-centric way of thinking is no longer capable of leading our country.

My campaign has been one of honesty and substance. We have created much-needed dialogue around the important issues facing our country. You’ve seen my leadership in setting the agenda this whole political season on both sides of the aisle. If I weren't running for president we wouldn’t be talking about illegal immigration. We wouldn’t be talking about the drugs pouring in and the bad trade deals costing American jobs. We wouldn’t have called the terrorist attack in Orlando for what it is - radical Islamic terrorism.

The support of many wonderful Americans like you led to resounding victories in the Republican primary race, in which we beat the rigged political system and biased media with landslide victories. Our success began on February 9th with an emphatic win in New Hampshire and reached a high point with our victory in South Carolina on February 20th. We continued our success in Florida on March 15th followed by my home state of New York on April 19th – both huge turning points in our campaign. We had some tough losses along the way but with your support, we were able to bounce back and sweep the Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island primaries on April 26th, along with other monumental wins throughout the primary season. The highlight was our win in Indiana on May 3rd - which made us the presumptive Republican nominee!

The strong vote of confidence that the American voters have placed in our message of Making America Great Again has buoyed us to many victories and is truly heartwarming. While I am thankful for the phenomenal success we have enjoyed in the past year, it is just the beginning! I could not be more thrilled to be your presumptive Republican Presidential Nominee and to officially accept the GOP Nomination at the Convention in July. We must continue to strive towards beating Crooked Hillary in November and Making ALL of America Great Again!

Thank you again for your support.

Best Wishes,

Donald J. Trump

(06-17-2016 03:51 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  Trump Supporter of the Week

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016...n-vandals/

A San Diego man with a Donald Trump yard sign in front of his house confronted a group of would-be vandals with a rifle on Wednesday evening. The vandals panicked and dialed 911. Police questioned the resident, Taren Meacham, but did not arrest him.

Local ABC News affiliate 10 News reports:

At around 10 p.m., a neighbor reportedly witnessed a group of four friends who had been walking down a sidewalk in the 100 block of West Juniper Street meddling with the campaign sign. The friends appeared to have been drinking.

Witnesses told San Diego police, the neighbor allegedly exited his home with a rifle and threatened the group using profanity. At one point he allegedly told them, “I’ve been waiting to use this.”

One of the people attempting to vandalize the sign recalled the event from her perspective:

Ashton Ferejan says she panicked when he pointed the gun at her, her husband and friends,

“I kind of just screamed ‘get back, get back,’ some of us yelled, my husband was like ‘are you serious, put down the weapon, this is ridiculous,'” Ferejan said.

Neighbors reportedly know Meacham, who owns a tattoo shop named “Love and Terror,” as a calm person. Evidently, however, he was prepared to defend his political preferences and his property.

*RVF salute*

Ashton Ferejan the vandal:



Her Linked In

She's also a liar (automatic weapons are illegal in California), you can see by watching the video at the link below that she claims that "this guy just pulled an automatic rifle on us in the middle of the street" as if she wasn't destroying the guys property (and being publicly intoxicated to boot). The police questioned the guy and didn't make an arrest because he had every right to defend his property from being destroyed by vandals.

News Article with Video

Taren Meacham the patriot and guy defending his property against coward vandals (suited up and looking fit/confident):



http://www.artbusiness.com/1open/051410.html

(06-17-2016 03:51 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  Trump Supporter of the Week

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016...n-vandals/

A San Diego man with a Donald Trump yard sign in front of his house confronted a group of would-be vandals with a rifle on Wednesday evening. The vandals panicked and dialed 911. Police questioned the resident, Taren Meacham, but did not arrest him.

*RVF salute*

(06-17-2016 03:34 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Building on this, I think the poll numbers are being manipulated in some way -- even if that way is Trump supporters not admitting their support.

This is a call to anyone in or out of the forum who has access to the old primary poll numbers. As I mentioned, I can't find these numbers. But I remember them being out of whack with what the results actually were.

If anyone from Brietbart or Newsbusters is reading, we could use an article on the discrepancy between how Trump polls and how he actually does in elections. I know this came up at some point and think it's going to be even more relevant as the general election closes in.

I agree that the polls are certainly being manipulated and that the media is launching a united campaign against Trump such that the people who aren't paying attention thus far just assume Trump is bad without thinking deeper.

Unfortunately, if Rasmussen says Trump is losing then he is indeed losing, as they have a well known +R house effect. That Clinton is +4 on Rasmussen is a little disconcerting.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ouse_watch

However, the polls are only good for how things stand today and I'm fairly convinced that the polls coming out now mean jack shit. Once Trump and Hillary get together on live TV for a debate, Trump will crucify her so severely that I wonder if Hillary's best play is to never debate Trump on TV and keep the people who haven't really paid attention thus far ignorant.

We still have plenty of runway left until November.

(06-17-2016 03:51 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  Trump Supporter of the Week

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016...n-vandals/

A San Diego man with a Donald Trump yard sign in front of his house confronted a group of would-be vandals with a rifle on Wednesday evening. The vandals panicked and dialed 911. Police questioned the resident, Taren Meacham, but did not arrest him.

Local ABC News affiliate 10 News reports:

At around 10 p.m., a neighbor reportedly witnessed a group of four friends who had been walking down a sidewalk in the 100 block of West Juniper Street meddling with the campaign sign. The friends appeared to have been drinking.

Witnesses told San Diego police, the neighbor allegedly exited his home with a rifle and threatened the group using profanity. At one point he allegedly told them, “I’ve been waiting to use this.”

One of the people attempting to vandalize the sign recalled the event from her perspective:

Ashton Ferejan says she panicked when he pointed the gun at her, her husband and friends,

“I kind of just screamed ‘get back, get back,’ some of us yelled, my husband was like ‘are you serious, put down the weapon, this is ridiculous,'” Ferejan said.

Neighbors reportedly know Meacham, who owns a tattoo shop named “Love and Terror,” as a calm person. Evidently, however, he was prepared to defend his political preferences and his property.

*RVF salute*

So they were in fear for their lives, but not so afraid they didn't feel the need to run for their lives? The cognitive dissonance is nothing short of amazing. In her mind, it is perfectly acceptable to vandalize his property because she doesn't share his beliefs, and not only that, but he should have no recourse.

(06-17-2016 03:59 PM)Diogenes Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 03:54 PM)Pestilence Wrote:  I'm from a country where it probably doesn't matter who wins ...

I'd have to disagree with you there. I think if Hillary wins there is a non-negligible probability of her starting WW3.

For what reason?

I'm certainly naïve here, but I genuinely want to know. Looking for anyone's brief answer.

Trump Rally in Woodlands, Texas tonight @ 8pm EST!





Trump should be coming on stage any minute now!

We're giving him a proud Texas welcome!

I'll only say this once....Cheers Ya'll!!!!

(06-17-2016 06:49 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 03:59 PM)Diogenes Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 03:54 PM)Pestilence Wrote:  I'm from a country where it probably doesn't matter who wins ...

I'd have to disagree with you there. I think if Hillary wins there is a non-negligible probability of her starting WW3.

For what reason?

I'm certainly naïve here, but I genuinely want to know. Looking for anyone's brief answer.

Hillary is inherently crippled by a fear of appearing weak because of her gender, so she counteracts this by being extra hawkish. Think Cheney/Graham warmongering x10.

The common opinion is that she'd start WW3 by fighting with Russia and Iran over Assad in Syria and the regime in Iran. Syria's been long gone for a while, but Iran is a nationalist behemoth of ~78 million disaffected citizens that have been praying for peaceful regime change since Khomeini revealed himself to be a despotic con man. Hillary's meddling there would ensure that Iran would never become a US ally again, and that Russia and the US would remain in a perpetual cold war until end times.

Edit: Iran is also one of the few nations that has been fighting ISIS from the start. War with them would all but ensure the rapid multiplication of ISIS and a strengthened Saudi Arabia. So then you would have the U.S. allying itself with Saudi Arabia and ISIS to fight Russia and Iran lolol

For more reading, take a look at this surprisingly decent-ish WP article:

Quote:Joseph A. Mussomeli served in the U.S. Foreign Service from 1980 to 2015, including periods as U.S. ambassador to Cambodia and Slovenia.

Most of my former colleagues at the State Department will be appalled by the assertion, but much of the media-fed angst about Donald Trump’s dearth of foreign policy expertise is contrived.

Our cadre of neoconservative foreign policy experts, unhumbled after marching us into a reckless war in Iraq and a poorly conceived one in Afghanistan, who applauded as we bombed Libya and bitterly resent our having failed to bomb Bashar al-Assad in Syria, are frightened. Wisely, they often focus on comments that Trump has made on issues that are of less genuine interest to them — from his strident stance on immigration to his “threat” to our liberties to his sometimes deplorable commentary about women and some minorities. But what really troubles them is his generally level-headed and unmessianic attitude toward foreign affairs. Trump has no desire to make the rest of the world in our image; he is concerned only about the world not making America in its image.

The neocons bemoan Trump’s rejection of a global role for the United States, but Trump has no intent to withdraw the United States from the world stage. He only rejects the wanton use of our young men and women on foreign adventures of questionable value.

The neocons have two clear foreign policy objectives, and Trump may grant them neither. For many of them, their deepest yearning, ungranted even in the waning days of the George W. Bush presidency, is an air campaign against Iran. Trump doesn’t like the Iran nuclear agreement, but his instinct is to make a better deal rather than attacking, while Hillary Clinton has a strong record of supporting the prodigal misuse of military force. Clinton is just another neocon, though wrapped in sheep’s clothing — just as on some foreign policy issues Trump is little more than Bernie Sanders in wolf’s clothing.

But clothing makes a huge difference. Most Americans don’t want the United States to be disrespected, and they want a muscular military that doesn’t take any nonsense — but they also don’t want military adventurism. Trump succeeds in having it both ways: He reassures that the United States will be respected and also that we will not employ our troops as cannon fodder on distant battlefields. Underneath all the tirades against illegal immigration and the need to be tough with our adversaries, there is an inward focus. There is a sense that America — in order to be great again — needs to relinquish its role as global cop and tend first to its needs at home. By sounding caustic, Trump is able to appear more militaristic and tougher than the far more reckless Clinton. Calculating and cavalier, Clinton would agree with her old pal, then-U.N. Ambassador Madeleine Albright: “What’s the point of having this superb military . . . if we can’t use it?” The stern rebuke to that question later provided by Gen. Colin Powell that the military is not a toy is lost on the neocons and Clinton. Among Clinton’s weaknesses, her fear of appearing weak may be her most damning.

The second neocon priority? A new Cold War with Russia. Vladi­mir Putin, unlikable and increasingly uncooperative and antagonistic, admittedly makes this objective more within reach, but Trump might avoid it as well. Clinton repeats over and over that Russia only understands a tough and determined opponent, while Trump may have a more sophisticated and mature approach. Far less petulant than most of the former Republican candidates, Trump says he would actually talk with Putin. That takes real courage given the general view among Republican elites. Contrast that with Clinton, who thinks we should not be talking too much to Putin and that we ought to further expand NATO because , in her view, Russia would be an even greater threat had it not been for NATO expansion. Of course, to admit that NATO expansion triggered the current crisis would be admitting that her husband is largely responsible for it. Trump seems to understand George Kennan’s warning that NATO expansion would directly lead to a more paranoid and aggressive Russia.

During an ambassadorial conference in 2014, a former colleague breathlessly characterized the Ukraine crisis in neocon terms as a Manichean struggle between good and evil. Such comic-book notions now dominate our political discourse, distorting reality and making it nearly impossible to objectively assess complex issues. Trump, for all his bizarre commentary on domestic issues, better grasps the subtleties of global politics and the dangers of thinking ourselves infallible and invincible.

It’s quite an irony: The ostensibly more reckless, infantile, inexperienced and bombastic candidate may actually be more mature, level-headed and reasonable on foreign policy than his critics, who, against all the good advice our parents gave us as children, pout and refuse to talk to those they don’t like, escalate arguments to violence when they are upset, lack any remorse for the harm caused by their past opinions and actions, and fail repeatedly to see that there might be two sides to any disagreement.

I think it says everything about the current climate in the US when random nobodies can just have the ego to fuck with a total strangers property.

You are drunk, you intend to vandalise private property, in a country with many armed citizens and you recoil in shock when the owner comes out sticking a gun in your direction? Fucking retards.

I sure hope America never loses that fire within them for confrontation. In the UK there have been so many stories of home owners confronting scumbags and getting put in a coffin or arrested and charged for defending their property.

Never let these filth take that from you.

(06-17-2016 05:23 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 03:34 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Building on this, I think the poll numbers are being manipulated in some way -- even if that way is Trump supporters not admitting their support.

This is a call to anyone in or out of the forum who has access to the old primary poll numbers. As I mentioned, I can't find these numbers. But I remember them being out of whack with what the results actually were.

If anyone from Brietbart or Newsbusters is reading, we could use an article on the discrepancy between how Trump polls and how he actually does in elections. I know this came up at some point and think it's going to be even more relevant as the general election closes in.

I agree that the polls are certainly being manipulated and that the media is launching a united campaign against Trump such that the people who aren't paying attention thus far just assume Trump is bad without thinking deeper.

Unfortunately, if Rasmussen says Trump is losing then he is indeed losing, as they have a well known +R house effect. That Clinton is +4 on Rasmussen is a little disconcerting.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ouse_watch

However, the polls are only good for how things stand today and I'm fairly convinced that the polls coming out now mean jack shit. Once Trump and Hillary get together on live TV for a debate, Trump will crucify her so severely that I wonder if Hillary's best play is to never debate Trump on TV and keep the people who haven't really paid attention thus far ignorant.

We still have plenty of runway left until November.

I agree, it's way too early to worry about polls right now. He's in striking distance, that's all that matters. So many things have yet to happen and so far the media is hiding Hillary. She won't be able to hide for much longer. If she really as so far ahead, do you think Obama would be so rattled right now? Don't you think Hildog would be out front and center doing her premature victory laps? Is gonna be a tough fight but at least Trump is battle hardened and will fight hard. Look if Trump loses, you can say that the country is too far gone. All we can do is fight, and hope that the majority of people see things our way. Long way to go still.

At a rally in The Woodlands, Texas, Friday night, Trump theatrically said he wished the shooter, Omar Mateen, would have been taken down by an armed Pulse clubgoer.

"If we had people with the bullets going in the opposite direction — right smack between the eyes of this maniac," Trump said, pointing in a gun gesture to his forehead. "If some of those wonderful people had guns strapped right here, right to their waist or right to their ankle, and this son of a bitch comes out and starts shooting, and one of the people in that room happened to have it and goes boom, boom, you know what? That would have been a beautiful, beautiful sight, folks, that would have been a beautiful, beautiful sight."

Normally I don't watch TV anymore but a friend is over at my house here and wanted to turn on the local news. No surprise a dishonest media outlet, Channel 12 Phoenix (KPNX), spewed a massive amount of anti-Trump propaganda. Kept repeating that he has a negative approval rating about 5 times within two or three minutes. Then, the terrible media outlet made it seem like the violence at the Trump rallies was the fault of Trump supporters. Again, completely dishonest and full of lies.

I hate these media hacks so much.

I wear my Trump shirt to the bar and preach the good word of the Trumpening to everybody. Everybody. If you're not doing that you should quit your job and work as a welder or taxi driver (something antifragile). This movement is a lot bigger than anybody's professional reputation or silly desk job.

My apologies if someone's already posted these, I didn't see them on previous pages. It's comforting to see Trump address and dismiss rumors of any RNC coup shenanigans. Hopefully there truly won't be any monkey business at the convention in July.

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The talk that the Republican party is going to oust Trump is mostly being led by the left wing pundits and anti-Trump media outlets. Most of it is wishful thinking. "There is no possible way they will have Trump as the nominee! I know he has more votes and delegates but no way! Current year!"

(06-17-2016 08:29 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 05:23 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 03:34 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Building on this, I think the poll numbers are being manipulated in some way -- even if that way is Trump supporters not admitting their support.

This is a call to anyone in or out of the forum who has access to the old primary poll numbers. As I mentioned, I can't find these numbers. But I remember them being out of whack with what the results actually were.

If anyone from Brietbart or Newsbusters is reading, we could use an article on the discrepancy between how Trump polls and how he actually does in elections. I know this came up at some point and think it's going to be even more relevant as the general election closes in.

I agree that the polls are certainly being manipulated and that the media is launching a united campaign against Trump such that the people who aren't paying attention thus far just assume Trump is bad without thinking deeper.

Unfortunately, if Rasmussen says Trump is losing then he is indeed losing, as they have a well known +R house effect. That Clinton is +4 on Rasmussen is a little disconcerting.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ouse_watch

However, the polls are only good for how things stand today and I'm fairly convinced that the polls coming out now mean jack shit. Once Trump and Hillary get together on live TV for a debate, Trump will crucify her so severely that I wonder if Hillary's best play is to never debate Trump on TV and keep the people who haven't really paid attention thus far ignorant.

We still have plenty of runway left until November.

I agree, it's way too early to worry about polls right now. He's in striking distance, that's all that matters. So many things have yet to happen and so far the media is hiding Hillary. She won't be able to hide for much longer. If she really as so far ahead, do you think Obama would be so rattled right now? Don't you think Hildog would be out front and center doing her premature victory laps? Is gonna be a tough fight but at least Trump is battle hardened and will fight hard. Look if Trump loses, you can say that the country is too far gone. All we can do is fight, and hope that the majority of people see things our way. Long way to go still.

I also agreed that it's a bit too early to worry about anything. Over the next couple of months, we will be seeing an increase of attacks from Trump and Clinton via TV ads, social media, news, etc.

Trump's strategy against Clinton reminds me of Sun Tzu's quotes in The Art of War:

Quote:All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.

Quote:If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

I love good qoutes from General Sun Tsu and Niccolo Machiavelli and Von Clausewitz... the wisdom of the ancients is timeless.

(06-17-2016 10:38 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  I love good qoutes from General Sun Tsu and Niccolo Machiavelli and Von Clausewitz... the wisdom of the ancients is timeless.

Couldn't agree more. Their works should be required reading for any red pill male.

Watch this RINO fag on Fox turn into a total SJW when confronted with facts:

(06-17-2016 09:30 PM)Hades Wrote:  I wear my Trump shirt to the bar and preach the good word of the Trumpening to everybody. Everybody. If you're not doing that you should quit your job and work as a welder or taxi driver (something antifragile). This movement is a lot bigger than anybody's professional reputation or silly desk job.

My contract will take me to retirement, there is something liberating about being in terminal paygrade. My Trump gear comes in next week, Im going to start going to base early and put my MAGA hat on the dash so everyone sees it as they come into the building and Ill be wearing my Trump shirt to the gym too.

I love a little project mayhem, I was thinking of trolling my Tinder profile with a line at the end: "I want to bang a chick with my Trump hat on, swipe right to audition. Lets make Tinder great again!"

(06-19-2016 12:56 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Brave Vladimir Putin has delivered a scathing attack on the New World Order and warned Donald Trump that the ‘secret cabal’ have him ‘in their crosshairs.’

‘There is a secret cabal above the elected rulers of your country, they have very clear goals for the next couple of years…They do not want you to be President, and they are conspiring against you.‘

‘The elites have chosen Hillary [Clinton], the whole world has seen in her emails that the Democrats chose her as their nominee over a year ago and the election over [Bernie] Sanders was a farce.’

Yeah, I call bullshit.
Is there a trustworthy and reputable source for these statements?
Is there a source at all?

Do any of my fellow conservatives have any really liberal friends? If so have you ever succeeded in actually getting them to change their stance on certain issues?

Being a younger person in my 20's, I have quite a few liberal friends and it is just mind blowing to me the amount that don't actually research the principals behind each candidate. I am a very open minded person, but when I ask some of my friends back home who they are voting for and why it seems to be the, "not Donald Trump because he is a racist" card. It is increasingly frustrating to see my fellow college peers voting for people in which they have no idea what each candidate stands for. I wish younger people would start becoming more informed on issues that matter instead of sharing unaccredited news sources on Facebook but I know that's asking an awful lot..

Well, that's my rant for the day.
Trump 2016

^ Scott Adams just put up a blog post today where you gives you ammo to use against common anti-Trump talking points.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/14615702637...ti-trumper

Example:

Quote:Objection 2: Trump is terrible at business, as proven by his several bankruptcies.

Persuasion: Ask how many bankruptcies Trump has had. Most people say between 5-10. Then ask how many entities Trump has his name on. The answer is about 500. Then ask if that is a good performance for an entrepreneur who is often trying things in new fields.

(Asking questions in that fashion is good persuasion technique. It removes the adversarial frame and gives the person a sense of coming to a new conclusion without pressure.)

Then explain how licensing works. Trump puts his name on various products and he gets paid even if the product or company does poorly in the end. That’s an example of Trump taking the LEAST risk in a deal. The other parties take larger risks and frequently fail. Trump gets paid either way. All parties to the deals have lawyers who review everything. Trump isn’t taking advantage of people with his licensing deals. Licensees are knowingly accepting the riskier side of the deal because they also have the biggest potential upside.

Trump doesn’t like risk. We see it in lots of ways. For example, Trump has never been in a physical fight. He asked his wives to sign prenups. He creates separate entities so some can go bankrupt without bringing down the rest. He licenses his name so he gets paid even if the company buying the license does not make a profit. And he diversifies his portfolio to reduce exposure to any one risk.

Based on everything we see, Trump consistently tries hard to avoid risk in everything he does. And people don’t change character at age 70.

The exceptions to Trump’s risk-avoidance include some of the provocative stuff he is saying during the campaign. That behavior looks risky to most observers, but it was exactly what got him the Republican nomination. Evidently, Trump takes risks when doing so makes sense.

I'm conservative and have good liberal friends as well as respected family members who don't share my political opinions. In my opinion, it's not the best idea to use politics to gauge the level or meaning of these relationships. To develop a thought process that liberals are so different from us because they identify as liberals or vote Democrat is premature. The problem with most liberals is that they are easily swayed by the media and controlled by it rather than espousing liberal views as a matter of fact or conviction. The challenge is that as a RVF forum member, our conviction is based on matters of fact and hence it can become difficult to not get frustrated by liberals who don't have conviction from the same source.

I keep politics out of discussion with people close to me. The difference is often lack of information and access to that information rather than straight ignorance of facts.

It's just like game. Some people are controlled by the media narrative and can't be helped. That doesn't mean they don't deserve the same chance others do. Additionally, on a separate level there also are liberals that hate SJWs (even on the forum) yet don't want to vote republican. I have a friend like this and he is a better player than most people I know. I don't think liberal views ever affected his game.

I suggest taking great care in primarily seeing relationships within a political frame. It's not fair to the relationships.