(11-23-2016 06:26 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:53 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If i ever open up shop someplace,, I'll have an apartment above the business. If I end up moving in with a chick, I'll still need a separate spot with a bed, kitchen and shower.

Internet empire trumps brick and mortar business in terms of liquidity, freedom, and growth potential.

Hit us with the data sheet.

I'm still drafting the first e-book.
I got some amazon affiliate sites.

But I'm trying to get to that next level.

If I could do 15-20k a month online - that would free up a ton of time, and open up a lot more possibilities because I have my time back.

WIA

(11-24-2016 01:27 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Hit us with the data sheet.

I'm still drafting the first e-book.
I got some amazon affiliate sites.

But I'm trying to get to that next level.

If I could do 15-20k a month online - that would free up a ton of time, and open up a lot more possibilities because I have my time back.

WIA

Have you looked into coaching? I'm sure there is demand for that. I would be interested in your coaching.

Speaking of hair cuts, what style do you guys rock?

I cut my own hair and keep it simple. not bald, but low enough so that non-black people think I'm bald.

I'm cheap

As for the long game, I imagine you would want her to invest in you somehow? Be in a business that you're constantly surrounded with younger prospects. If you're corporate, find out whichever department has the most girls, get cool with the manager, and be the guy that hosts "team building" activities for them or something.

Get that hypergamy to work for you!

(11-24-2016 03:32 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(11-24-2016 01:27 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Hit us with the data sheet.

I'm still drafting the first e-book.
I got some amazon affiliate sites.

But I'm trying to get to that next level.

If I could do 15-20k a month online - that would free up a ton of time, and open up a lot more possibilities because I have my time back.

WIA

Have you looked into coaching? I'm sure there is demand for that. I would be interested in your coaching.

Appreciate that ISO.

If you got general questions, happy to answer them here in the thread.
If you got very specific ones, hit me on the pm.

I think a lot of us that are in the workforce now, realize that trading our time/youth/health for dollars is not the move. We wants bonds that pay interest, real estate that pays rent, online businesses that don't require us to grind.

WIA

(11-24-2016 03:39 PM)BasketBounce Wrote:  As for the long game, I imagine you would want her to invest in you somehow? Be in a business that you're constantly surrounded with younger prospects. If you're corporate, find out whichever department has the most girls, get cool with the manager, and be the guy that hosts "team building" activities for them or something.

Get that hypergamy to work for you!

Sort of, but chicks don't seem to really respond to that kind of set up.
They don't respond to things that involve delaying gratification.

Sometimes you can bargain with a guy to take a short term loss for a long term gain. Women, by and large, don't respond to that.

Think about it.

You want the chick to invest in the relationship.

Realistically though, the most logical thing a chick can do is invest in HERSELF.

A chick should
- eat right
- work out
- find out where the best guys are
- figure out what it takes to get them, get a bunch of them so that she has options.

That's what she should do.

But what does she actually do?


She eats herself into a hippopotamus.

So if she's not going to do right by herself, why would she do right by you?

Guys want girls to do things that they have no incentive to do.

WIA

(11-24-2016 04:36 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
She eats herself into a hippopotamus.

So if she's not going to do right by herself, why would she do right by you?

Guys want girls to do things that they have no incentive to do.

WIA

Man, you ain't never lied. So frustrating to see so many sistas blow up big as a house and still expect to courted by virtue of a shared cultural experiences an extrinsic value. IDGAF if you got 4 Master degrees, if I gotta lift your stomach up to put my dyck inside you, ain't nothing up!

(11-25-2016 02:02 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(11-24-2016 04:36 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
She eats herself into a hippopotamus.

So if she's not going to do right by herself, why would she do right by you?

Guys want girls to do things that they have no incentive to do.

WIA

Man, you ain't never lied. So frustrating to see so many sistas blow up big as a house and still expect to courted by virtue of a shared cultural experiences an extrinsic value. IDGAF if you got 4 Master degrees, if I gotta lift your stomach up to put my dyck inside you, ain't nothing up!

As a side note, understanding that women really just can't resist what's happening here and now
- why they eat
- why they impulse spend
- how one night stands happen
- why she can be so in to you right now, but the next bright shiny thing grabs her attention
- why her phone is your #1 cockblock

It's real easy to point these out in women...but grab that mirror above your bed and do a once over on yourself.

Men can also be impulsive, just not to the same extent. We have an overall tendency to just be stubborn.

With that in mind, what sort of vices, time sucks, and other bullshit can you take out of your life and replace with something that's actually going to be better for you.

From there, it's trying to figure out systems that make you AUTOMATICALLY do things.

"Routine, in an intelligent man, is a sign of ambition" - WH Auden.

WIA

(11-23-2016 12:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So knowing this FACT about women, how do you adapt?

How have you adapted?

WIA

My midrange goal is to get to the point where I able to maintain a strong masculine frame with every woman I interact with. No matter how fine and how good her game is. I want the control and focus of the relationship to be on me an my goals. I also accept that no matter how good my game gets, this may never be enough to keep her indefinitely. So I will always keep my options open and make sure she knows it! I dont see marriage in the cards any time soon. I would not consider marriage with out a prenup, and unless I was in the financial situation where I could still maintain a condo and a house on my income alone. My exit strategy if we were to split would be that she gets the house and I get the condo. I havent worked out the rest yet.

(11-25-2016 04:11 PM)Ogunn Wrote:  My midrange goal is to get to the point where I able to maintain a strong masculine frame with every woman I interact with. No matter how fine and how good her game is. I want the control and focus of the relationship to be on me an my goals. I also accept that no matter how good my game gets, this may never be enough to keep her indefinitely. So I will always keep my options open and make sure she knows it! I dont see marriage in the cards any time soon. I would not consider marriage with out a prenup, and unless I was in the financial situation where I could still maintain a condo and a house on my income alone. My exit strategy if we were to split would be that she gets the house and I get the condo. I havent worked out the rest yet.

I love it when it brothers get to the specifics

Good shit

WIA

(11-24-2016 01:27 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 06:26 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(11-23-2016 02:53 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If i ever open up shop someplace,, I'll have an apartment above the business. If I end up moving in with a chick, I'll still need a separate spot with a bed, kitchen and shower.

Internet empire trumps brick and mortar business in terms of liquidity, freedom, and growth potential.

Hit us with the data sheet.

I'm still drafting the first e-book.
I got some amazon affiliate sites.

But I'm trying to get to that next level.

If I could do 15-20k a month online - that would free up a ton of time, and open up a lot more possibilities because I have my time back.

WIA

I'm only 24...nowhere near some of the vets in this thread, but let's think it through.

Property is expensive AF. Benefits:
-Marketing to pedestrians
-Storage
-Increased legit-ness factor
-Meeting space
-Can be used as a coverup
-Need employees

Internet business:
-Work from home
-Custom balling home office (standing desk, big screen, stereo system)
-Save a shit ton of money
-Location independent
-More freedom of decision

Each of these will have a monetary value due to the nature of your business.

Restaurants, dry cleaning, lawn care, must-buy stores (think CVS, Circuit City) 100% need a storefront.

Niche stores (comic books, collectibles, supplements, clothing, you name it) are on the fence and would greatly benefit from a storefront but don't need it.

Consulting businesses (Personal Trainers, Accountants, WIA Pickup Coaching Inc.) do not need a storefront at all, but would benefit. How many people go to H&R Block just because it's a storefront? Are their accounts that much better? No, and an accountant could make more money freelancing out of his apartment vs. giving up commissions to H&R corporate. I digress.

The problem with brick and mortar is that no matter what, NO MATTER, you will be doing business on the internet. Internet marketing, sales, consulting, blog posts, instagram, SEO, all of this is so good ROI that there is no reason to avoid it. In that case, why would you want to tie yourself to one location?

Brick and mortar is good in two instances: 1. You could build up a conglomerate and have strong management at each location. There are a bunch of folk on reddit making lawn care, maid services and essentially doing turnkey in each location:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EntrepreneurRideAlong/

2. You truly love the business and are not trying to turn a huge profit (see my previous post).

Overall time and money investment is huge for a storefront and you're stuck with the business. Location independence is worth so much to me, as it should be for most of the forum, that internet is the way I'm going for now..

(11-25-2016 09:11 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Consulting businesses (Personal Trainers, Accountants, WIA Pickup Coaching Inc.) do not need a storefront at all, but would benefit. How many people go to H&R Block just because it's a storefront? Are their accounts that much better? No, and an accountant could make more money freelancing out of his apartment vs. giving up commissions to H&R corporate. I digress.

The problem with brick and mortar is that no matter what, NO MATTER, you will be doing business on the internet. Internet marketing, sales, consulting, blog posts, instagram, SEO, all of this is so good ROI that there is no reason to avoid it. In that case, why would you want to tie yourself to one location?

LOL. McPlayer's
"#2 special with a side order of openers, you want any style tips with that?"

I was reading something about game/dating apps.
I could see someone doing what Don Draper did in that episode of Black Mirror.
____________________________________________

I'm in my 40's, and the idea of having a Brick and Mortar storefront with a Online presence is actually appealing to me -if it weren't for the realities that I see in actually having a storefront, holding that inventory, employee expenses, etc.

I'd love to open a very focused West Indian restaurant - but there's no real money in it. And if the owner isn't there yelling at people - the food will be crappy.

I'm leaning more towards coming up with funds to buy into rental property, and have someone else do the management for 10% gross.

That's 5 figures for the first property, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

But the Storefront/Dating Consultancy office is really about having a place to sleep if that live in broad starts acting up.

If I ever sleep on the couch ever again..

WIA

(11-25-2016 09:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-25-2016 09:11 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Consulting businesses (Personal Trainers, Accountants, WIA Pickup Coaching Inc.) do not need a storefront at all, but would benefit. How many people go to H&R Block just because it's a storefront? Are their accounts that much better? No, and an accountant could make more money freelancing out of his apartment vs. giving up commissions to H&R corporate. I digress.

The problem with brick and mortar is that no matter what, NO MATTER, you will be doing business on the internet. Internet marketing, sales, consulting, blog posts, instagram, SEO, all of this is so good ROI that there is no reason to avoid it. In that case, why would you want to tie yourself to one location?

LOL. McPlayer's
"#2 special with a side order of openers, you want any style tips with that?"

I was reading something about game/dating apps.
I could see someone doing what Don Draper did in that episode of Black Mirror.
____________________________________________

I'm in my 40's, and the idea of having a Brick and Mortar storefront with a Online presence is actually appealing to me -if it weren't for the realities that I see in actually having a storefront, holding that inventory, employee expenses, etc.

I'd love to open a very focused West Indian restaurant - but there's no real money in it. And if the owner isn't there yelling at people - the food will be crappy.

I'm leaning more towards coming up with funds to buy into rental property, and have someone else do the management for 10% gross.

That's 5 figures for the first property, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

But the Storefront/Dating Consultancy office is really about having a place to sleep if that live in broad starts acting up.

If I ever sleep on the couch ever again..

WIA

My goal is to build passive income through real estate. Specifically by purchasing apartment buildings.

As WIA mentioned these types of properties can be managed by other people. For example a 400 unit property would need a staff consisting of a prop manager 2 assistants, a handyman and a couple of assistants. At that point I would just manage the manager. This should equal no more than a couple hours of work a day, all by phone.

The catch is the buy in is at least 100K (outside of emergency funds). I am in the processes of stacking that paper. This will get me started with small 5 - 10 unit properties. I am looking for returns anywhere from 18 - 24% per year. Because of the tax write offs. I can expect to pay little to no taxes on that income. On average about 5%.

The best part with apartment buildings is the price of the building is primarily based on the net income not just comparable sales. If I buy a prop that was neglected by the previous owner. I will fix it up. Then I will raise rents. Wait 6 months then go to the bank and do a refi and take out 80& of the new value. Since this a loan it is not considered income I will not have to pay income taxes. I can then take that money and put into another deal and just keep that money snowball rolling until it becomes a boulder. My passive income goal 250K a year with a tax liability of no more than 5%.

It is for reasons like these that real estate is the number one source of wealth in the U.S.

(11-25-2016 09:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-25-2016 09:11 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Consulting businesses (Personal Trainers, Accountants, WIA Pickup Coaching Inc.) do not need a storefront at all, but would benefit. How many people go to H&R Block just because it's a storefront? Are their accounts that much better? No, and an accountant could make more money freelancing out of his apartment vs. giving up commissions to H&R corporate. I digress.

The problem with brick and mortar is that no matter what, NO MATTER, you will be doing business on the internet. Internet marketing, sales, consulting, blog posts, instagram, SEO, all of this is so good ROI that there is no reason to avoid it. In that case, why would you want to tie yourself to one location?

LOL. McPlayer's
"#2 special with a side order of openers, you want any style tips with that?"

I was reading something about game/dating apps.
I could see someone doing what Don Draper did in that episode of Black Mirror.

Elaborate for those of us who don't watch TV?

Quote:I'm in my 40's, and the idea of having a Brick and Mortar storefront with a Online presence is actually appealing to me -if it weren't for the realities that I see in actually having a storefront, holding that inventory, employee expenses, etc.

I'd love to open a very focused West Indian restaurant - but there's no real money in it. And if the owner isn't there yelling at people - the food will be crappy.

I'm leaning more towards coming up with funds to buy into rental property, and have someone else do the management for 10% gross.

That's 5 figures for the first property, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

But the Storefront/Dating Consultancy office is really about having a place to sleep if that live in broad starts acting up.

If I ever sleep on the couch ever again..

WIA

Yeah, quantifying the value of storefront is difficult because features have varying importance to every guy. If your business is breaking even...but you get a free place to stay (value ~$10k/year), could be worth it to you. Same reason why I'd be OK breaking even with a gym...I value the freedom to buy random stuff off RogueFitness.com and writing it off LOL.

The best way to answer this is to really, REALLY visualize what your life would be like if you open storefront vs. stay liquid (internet).

When I was young I wanted to be a marching band director (bring the haters). I didn't want to make money, because giving back to the kids, keeping them off the streets, and cultivating values *seemed* so important. One day I noticed my HS band director couldn't afford to fix her Chevy Impala's broken bumper, because she only made....$30k a year? I took a step back and pictured raising kids on that budget. Nope! Now I make much more than that, and can afford to spend my money in ways that benefit the country.

What are you specifically thinking of doing? (PM if you don't wanna air it out)

Consulting - I would not get a location at all. Scale your business and buy an apartments. Rent it out on AirBnB 90% of the year, sleep on it 10% when you need to get away from the missus.

Product - maybe meet halfway and have a location, but not a storefront. More of a warehouse. You can hold inventory, have a meeting place for employees, and a place to sleep, but save money by putting it out in the sticks vs. a pedestrian friendly location.

(11-26-2016 09:47 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(11-25-2016 09:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-25-2016 09:11 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Consulting businesses (Personal Trainers, Accountants, WIA Pickup Coaching Inc.) do not need a storefront at all, but would benefit. How many people go to H&R Block just because it's a storefront? Are their accounts that much better? No, and an accountant could make more money freelancing out of his apartment vs. giving up commissions to H&R corporate. I digress.

The problem with brick and mortar is that no matter what, NO MATTER, you will be doing business on the internet. Internet marketing, sales, consulting, blog posts, instagram, SEO, all of this is so good ROI that there is no reason to avoid it. In that case, why would you want to tie yourself to one location?

LOL. McPlayer's
"#2 special with a side order of openers, you want any style tips with that?"

I was reading something about game/dating apps.
I could see someone doing what Don Draper did in that episode of Black Mirror.

Elaborate for those of us who don't watch TV?

A new player is at a christmas party. Sees a girl he likes.
His contacts are cameras and there is a microphone.
Audio and Video are transmitted to John and a team of players that gives him real time advice on how to bag the chick.

"say that line we practiced"
"now reach for her"

Basically a play by play of the pull.

Won't spoil the rest, but clearly whoever wrote the episode did some research on the game.

WIA

WIA

I'd love to open a very focused West Indian restaurant - but there's no real money in it. And if the owner isn't there yelling at people - the food will be crappy.


What about this sort of restaurant in a foreign land?

I have toyed with this idea for many years, just never pulled the trigger.

Look at the examples someone spoke about in Germany, 5 euros for a beef pattie with lettuce and bread. Surely, there is a market over there and a killing to be made.

Restaurant game would be like taking candy from a baby, the "clientele" would come to you. Just drop a few "yeah mon" to make it seem you are straight from yard.

Archie and Rudebwoy in partnership.
I am sure I would be doing most of the cooking, while Archie works the floor.

I have looked at another country, I really cannot see it failing. You don't have any competition, other than a ristorante, pizza/burger joints and there is one Chinese and another ethnic spot I know off.

African brothers seem to make a living doing the same thing across Europe, I remember my ex going to a African shop to buy plaintain in Hungary.

After a year or so, I would hope a local might buy me out. Unless, the money and good times are too good.

(11-26-2016 02:35 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Look at the examples someone spoke about in Germany, 5 euros for a beef pattie with lettuce and bread. Surely, there is a market over there and a killing to be made.

The only reason there is a market to make a killing in Germany is because the food there is shit. By far the worst place I've been to in terms of food. It's no wonder why the Turks dominate food over there. There are a lot of opportunities to be had there to open a non-German/US/Turk food store.

After working with a few restaurants here
I'd say it's a ton of work... Even with the best location
There's a ton of competition and running a full service restaurant usually means making just enough to pay your rent and the help...especially if you're just starting out.

The restaurants that do well here seem to be the small fast food places that are placed in a good location with foot traffic...next to a mall for example...

Low overhead, no waiters and quick delivery/great location give you the best path to making a profit.

I agree. In the states, new restaurants have a 91% failure rate, whereas franchises have nearly 90% success rate. I'd never try to reinvent the wheel with statistics like those.

What I have noticed though, after moving to the west coast from the Midwest, where there are lots of similar transplants, opening a spot that specializes in food native to a significant amount of folks hometown cuisine can be beneficial. I.e., Chicago style hot dogs, Greek Coney Island joints etc.

(11-26-2016 03:41 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 02:35 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Look at the examples someone spoke about in Germany, 5 euros for a beef pattie with lettuce and bread. Surely, there is a market over there and a killing to be made.

The only reason there is a market to make a killing in Germany is because the food there is shit. By far the worst place I've been to in terms of food. It's no wonder why the Turks dominate food over there. There are a lot of opportunities to be had there to open a non-German/US/Turk food store.

Food is def not the highest quality.. Its alot of work like Apollo said but def think theres opportunity... I'll give an example:

In Cologne there is no Chipotle, Qdoba or anything like that.

An American dude I know who had experience in the US working in a burrito place came over to Cologne and opened a Chipotle duplicate in a very expensive high foot traffic area. Everytime I roll through the place is packed wall to wall and now hes opening a second location in the mall here. (he was personally invited to open a spot in the mall)

So if you got a good idea or even want to make an American duplicate and bring it here theres opportunity.

Everyone here talks about Cheesecake Factory like theres no tomorrow.

Iso - if you say the worst food you have had is in Germany, I take it you have not been to the UK. I found the sausages(bratwurst) was very delicious in Germany, I think the choices are lacking.

Kirdiesel - thank you for those examples, I have no doubt that could be replicated in many of those Euro countries over there. Overhead is the only thing that would concern me.

I keep starting and restarting this damn book.

None of which include everything I've written on line.

My style of game is derived from everything that I've been exposed to. And it's been hammered by experience, trying out what other people have talked about, and also using things that I've uncovered by going out. Often what I find out myself will show up in something that I will eventually read.

So this is my working definition of the game

*The player creates something in her mind.*

Once you have that, by any* means necessary, he can do whatever he wants.

He can do it in a billion different ways, but the end goal is for him to cause something to happen inside of her mind.

Maybe he maximizes his appearance
Maybe he knows what to say and when to say it
Maybe he knows how to work through third parties

These three formulations are three of many. I could talk fame, money, power, stylish clothes, being in the right place

The key is that he is doing something to make her feel a certain way. It could be that what he is broadcasting works on lots of women all at the same time. Or it could be just the one woman.

Good cologne is something that can hit a chick when she's least expecting it and prompt her to make a comment. For that cologne to work, the man has to be in a setting where she comes in to it. Close quarters, like an elevator, that's just the two of you.

The player has all of these tools to build this thing in her mind.

Using the tools is the game. Not using the tools is beating your head against the wall.

Most men, sadly most guys in the game, don't know about the tools, don't want to use them... And if they wise up, they pick the worst tools for the job, barely put in any effort, and complain about the lack of results.

I sincerely believe that any man can have game.
Much like any man can have a six pack, or buy things at a low price and sell them somewhere else at a higher price.

But as a gender, we're too stubborn.

Since this conversation comes back to the Beyonces of the world, recognize that Mos Def hit that before she met Jay. (Hip Hop opera Carmen).

What did Mos have?

Access.

More later

WIA

*be reasonable in your inference

If you really want to finish your book I'd suggest doing a podcast series with Moma and Rudeboy where you cover each chapter/topic and then have the audio transcribed and edited into a book.

It's the fastest way to get started and the easiest way to get a book done.

Okay lads, thanks for your patience, we have been labouring behind the scenes but we are finally live with our latest podcasts on a new platform.

Check us out at http://www.repstylez.com. Comments are encouraged and welcomed!

(11-29-2016 03:57 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  If you really want to finish your book I'd suggest doing a podcast series with Moma and Rudeboy where you cover each chapter/topic and then have the audio transcribed and edited into a book.

It's the fastest way to get started and the easiest way to get a book done.

That's an interesting idea.

I rework some of my thoughts as I write.

WIA

(11-29-2016 09:36 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 03:57 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  If you really want to finish your book I'd suggest doing a podcast series with Moma and Rudeboy where you cover each chapter/topic and then have the audio transcribed and edited into a book.

It's the fastest way to get started and the easiest way to get a book done.

That's an interesting idea.

I rework some of my thoughts as I write.

WIA

A solid outline is paramount. You'd be surprised at how much content can fill up a skeletal outline.