(11-17-2016 05:37 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote: Guys shaking off the rust or find approaching to be daunting should just get in the habit of being observant and social with various folks they come in contact with.
Absolutely. You should always be thinking of an opening. And not just pretty girls. It should be anyone in earshot. There's no agenda, you're just a witty guy being sociable. Getting complete strangers to engage you, genuinely smile with you, or piggy back onto a comment you made goes a long way.
(11-18-2016 09:02 AM)Moma Wrote: Gustavia, you can go in. Black barbers can handle any type of hair. Maybe take a pic of a celebrity that you fancy styling your hair/beard after and they will make it happen for you.
@Gustavia: they'll know how to handle your kind of hair. Do like Moma said and bring in a photo of a style you want for reference. If he does a good job then make him your barber. I.E only see him as he'll have a feel for the style you like each time. Be prepared to get your shit talk on, barbershops are hot spots for debating everything from Galileo Galilei to is Nicki Minaj ass real.
(11-18-2016 04:09 PM)coverdoc Wrote: @Gustavia: they'll know how to handle your kind of hair. Do like Moma said and bring in a photo of a style you want for reference. If he does a good job then make him your barber. I.E only see him as he'll have a feel for the style you like each time. Be prepared to get your shit talk on, barbershops are hot spots for debating everything from Galileo Galilei to is Nicki Minaj ass real.
I would supplement that while talking to strangers is definitely not an approach, it doesn't hurt to talk to strangers when a cute girl is around.
Like when I ride the bus and there happens to be a cutie, I'm definitely talking to the old lady first. Maybe I'll chat up that one guy that is constantly trying to push Allah/Jesus on to people.
Then I'll open the cute chick. Bring her into the conversation.
Just one example of WIA's comment about working the room. Doesn't just have to be at a dinner party y'all. Works wonders at cultural events if you bring a girl with you. Makes it easier to open other girls that are their, too, if you bring a girl with you
Also agree with the concept of taking women for what they are. In my line of work, I'm basically chilling with decent (5-7 range) all day. You come to realize that they just communicate differently from men, and you learn how to roll with it.
(11-20-2016 10:25 AM)BasketBounce Wrote: I would supplement that while talking to strangers is definitely not an approach, it doesn't hurt to talk to strangers when a cute girl is around.
Like when I ride the bus and there happens to be a cutie, I'm definitely talking to the old lady first. Maybe I'll chat up that one guy that is constantly trying to push Allah/Jesus on to people.
Then I'll open the cute chick. Bring her into the conversation.
Just one example of WIA's comment about working the room. Doesn't just have to be at a dinner party y'all. Works wonders at cultural events if you bring a girl with you. Makes it easier to open other girls that are their, too, if you bring a girl with you
Classic Mystery Method - open the set adjacent to the target. Then merge the set.
Just learning the bare minimum of MM would have you swimming in 7's and 8's. You don't even need super pimp game.
The bar for sex is low
The bar for game is low
What's high is people's fear, their reluctance, their deep social programming.
(11-20-2016 10:25 AM)BasketBounce Wrote: Also agree with the concept of taking women for what they are. In my line of work, I'm basically chilling with decent (5-7 range) all day. You come to realize that they just communicate differently from men, and you learn how to roll with it.
I'd go off on a rant about playing "sniper" and how guys like that end up bitter/frustrated or on some unicorn search - but y'all hear that enough from me anyway.
Although it may seem like a bit of celebrity gossip and eyeballing, I'd like to revisit the Pippen situation with his wife sleeping with the rapper Future. Is that just something Pippen has to chalk up to the game or is there something he could have done to prevent that happening? Shaq's wife was also found to be porking her personal trainer.
The Pippen situation lends towards long game. For instance, I was speaking with a young cat the other day regarding lizards. His short game is very efficient in my opinion. He's direct and unapologetic and gets a lot of lays. However, he seems to have baby mama drama so perhaps his long game needs work.
For me, without tooting my own horn, I feel that my long game is better than my short game.
My WIFE would not physically be in an environment to meet Future.
That's rule #1. Keeping your broad out the club is rule #1 for all LTRs.
#2 - if you're that high in status, you can't get married. No good can come from it. There's no upside for a guy worth 50,000, much less someone worth 7-10 figures.
I think the question that a lot of guys ask is what can the player do so that his chick ain't looking for anything else.
You guys know my answer. But I'd love to hear what others have to say.
#1. Never get married. Ever
#2. I'm all about expressing who someone truly is. Why stop my girl from going to the club? If she wants to go let her go. If she fucks a guy, she always had that in her to begin with whether I kept her under wraps or not. After my first GF cheated on me in highschool, I realized it was the best situation for me. It opened me up to the Matrix and let me realize that whores will be whores no matter what.
In regards to Pippen, i'm sure the signs were there. He just chose to ignore them for whatever reasons: She sucked his dick good and promised him nothing was happening, psychological attachment, embarrassment, etc.
When i'm with my LTR and she's looking fly and my guy friends joke like, better watch her or someone will take her, I always respond with: Let them, they'll be doing me a favor and i'll find another one.
WIA, I mentioned before, which some guys disagree with, that the wives are actually an access device to the higher circles of American society. They lend normalcy to the otherwise perceived, overly sexual athlete. MJ lost 150 million to Juanita but became a billionaire. He may not have become that if he was a bachelor his whole life. He would have been viewed by America as weird and probably some sort of sex creep/pervert if he had never married. America doesn't want to invest openly in sex perverts.
(11-22-2016 08:01 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: My WIFE would not physically be in an environment to meet Future.
That's rule #1. Keeping your broad out the club is rule #1 for all LTRs.
#2 - if you're that high in status, you can't get married. No good can come from it. There's no upside for a guy worth 50,000, much less someone worth 7-10 figures.
WIA with the bullseye once again.
Shit even if im in a LTR I can barely trust myself in a club.
You gentlemen each raise some interesting points. Marriage can, and should be beneficial to both parties. At age 40, I sometimes feel awkward introducing my LTR as my "girlfriend" in certain circles. Sometimes, I find it easier to just call her my wife. But, by no means would I EVER get married to avoid social stigmatization.
People, not just women, cheat.
Would we be having the same conversation had Pippen fucked Ciara on the side? All you can do is refrain from placing your livelihood, dignity and happiness on someone else's morality, values or lack thereof.
(11-22-2016 08:01 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: My WIFE would not physically be in an environment to meet Future.
That's rule #1. Keeping your broad out the club is rule #1 for all LTRs.
#2 - if you're that high in status, you can't get married. No good can come from it. There's no upside for a guy worth 50,000, much less someone worth 7-10 figures.
WIA with the bullseye once again.
Shit even if im in a LTR I can barely trust myself in a club.
This is one of the best threads on the forum but I'm not in the demographic, so I don't post here. It's like a 30 year old guy going on the over 40 thread. So slap me down if I'm out of order here.
I'm going to chime in because this is something I know about. The facts of the case: Scottie Pippen is 51 years old. Larsa Pippen is 42 years old. They have 4 kids together, from a pic I saw they look about age 6-15 (just checked, Sophia is age 7). Future is 33.
At 51, I doubt most of you guys will have much desire to go out and hit a club where it's loud, drinks are overpriced, and honestly, WTF are you doing there? Picking up chicks? I'm 49 and if I had Pippen's money, I'd be hanging out with my friends, enjoying the fruits of my hard work, enjoying life, not hustling for some chick's attention.
Women hit this weird thing in their 40s. It's like their biological clock is one of those bombs they do in the movies, where it starts beeping REALLY LOUD when it's about to blow. Her kids are old enough that they're self-sufficient. She's got everything she could want in life. She's wondering if she's still got it. So she's posting sexy selfies on Twitter and IG like some dingbat sorority girl.
EVERY DAMN WOMAN does this. I've seen it happen so many times. Even if she doesn't act on it. I see it in my demographic, 40ish white women go out to the damn Mumford & Sons concert and some 20 year old college kid tries to chat them up and their damn egos go Incredible Hulk.
Future, meanwhile, WTF is he doing playing cub to her cougar? This dude is in the dream spot for most forum members: successful, famous, and early 30s? He's got to have 20 year olds with their fake IDs all over him. So he goes for some married chick 9 years older, who admittedly looks good for her age, but let's face it, she's had 4 kids, married to a rich, famous guy, and is 9 years older? Maybe he just likes a challenge. Most likely in 4 years this guy Future is going to be gone and she's going to be sitting with her girlfriends drinking too much wine and wishing she had a do-over on that one. Too late for her family, but this happens over and over again.
What I'm saying is that as a married dude, there's this dangerous time when your woman hits her 40s, your kids are old enough to be somewhat self sufficient, and she is most definitely going to start asking "what now?"... it's a dangerous time.
Rockhard, you raise a valid point with Pippen and his lizard. I feel like Future took an L on this one. Yes, Larsa looks good for her age but her narni is still 40 and we know Pippen been longnosing that pum for beaucoup years. I don't see the bragging rights on that to be honest. That's like me showing up with naked pics or a video of me digging out Gabriel Union's guts. Yes, she is fine to me but she is still 40. Plus, I'm not Future.
Future is at the level where he's in it for the story.
It's not even about the sex. He's at the point in his fame where he can order a girl of his choice if the ones that are throwing themselves at him aren't good enough.
Like Biggie on I got a story to tell. Fucking some ballplayer baby mama.
Future already got fucked over by Ciara. And the dude who wifed that up, was an idiot.
With Yeezy in the news, I saw something on Reggie Bush's Kim K lookalike wife. Why?
She fine, but he could have triplets as girlfriends.
I don't understand how top tier guys make mad decisions
I think sometimes at a certain level, we overlook the basics that we used to follow when we were beginners and it comes back to bite. It's like when we first started working out, we used to warm up and stretch beforehand. As we got more confident, we thought..pah! Warming up is for beginners and then we start the workout raw. Then we pull a muscle and wish we stuck to the rules.
Even at this stage in the game, some of us still commit game rookie mistakes. I know I committed a rookie one last month.
Rookie mistakes I keep making
- not getting the logistics before I dig in
- taking a chick literally or seriously
- settling
- ignoring red flags, because its only a notch right?
WIA, you raise valid points. The older male should be more particular about his conquests and red flag signs, even if it's just a slam ting. Rookie mistake, I made, took a lizard for drinks but based on the feel, I should have ultimatumed her to Netflix and chill. She drank on my tab - not much but it's the principle that counts - and then proceeded to be unavailable for future plan arrangements.
Vet move recently: Lizard suggested dinner. We went to a resto, she drank and ate heartily and afterwards, I saw the bill and said "Let's Dutch it"
She expressed shock and great dismay and tried to gentleman shame me into retracting on my statement. I held firm.
If I invite a chick out I usually pay. However, our relationship status will dictate the venue. If it's a first time meet n greet, its coffee (ALWAYS). If it's subsequent meetings, its just to build comfort for the inevitable smash. I would never hang with a chic I haven't smashed for entertainment purposes.
Once she's comfortable enough, invite her to the crib for that "world famous" martini I make.
You'd be surprise how tickled a bish will get over a real martini glass, shaker and garnish.
However, I'm that cat that refills Ciroc and Grey Goose bottles with Popov and store brand vodka.