For the first time ever I saw a Muslim woman in a hijab (not full blown burka) walking from a Starbucks with another Muslim woman.

I see Africans but not much more than what I saw in 2011.

(08-30-2015 10:54 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  Interesting video about Poland's paramilitary, I don't think it's been shared here before:





It seems that unlike in other EU countries (namely Germany), patriotism and traditional values are deeply ingrained in Polish culture. It is safe to say the decline won't be as bad.

I dunno man.... They looked like they are more likely to be shooting each other in the ass then conduct any real combat drills.

I'm glad Poland doesn't have the money to give handouts hand over fist like Western Europe..

The last thing I came to Poland to experience was teeming brown hordes demanding money and handouts. We have enough of those in the USA.

The good thing about Poland is Poles generally have a strong work ethic and shun such things. The last thing the Poles want is a bunch of refugees and why should they?

Europe is literally being destroyed by people on the inside promoting this pro-immigration trash.

(08-30-2015 12:47 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:How many African and middle eastern immigrants flooded Poland this month?

For the first time ever I saw a Muslim woman in a hijab (not full blown burka) walking from a Starbucks with another Muslim woman.

I see Africans but not much more than what I saw in 2011.

Generally people have to work in Poland, so it's not an attractive place for Blacks or Arabs. And the Poles don't like them either because they are considered lazy and sexually aggressive.

(08-30-2015 05:21 PM)zeitgeist Wrote:  I'm glad Poland doesn't have the money to give handouts hand over fist like Western Europe..

The last thing I came to Poland to experience was teeming brown hordes demanding money and handouts. We have enough of those in the USA.

The good thing about Poland is Poles generally have a strong work ethic and shun such things. The last thing the Poles want is a bunch of refugees and why should they?

Europe is literally being destroyed by people on the inside promoting this pro-immigration trash.

Yes - in Poland aside from maybe some initial financial aid the ones that stay need to either have money themselves or work ASAP. I saw first time a young couple with children - a woman with a Hajib and her husband. They did not look like tourists as their children were babies in a stroller. But they did not make the impression of poor people, so maybe they had some cash - which they actually need there.

In Poznan especially there seems to be a hotbed for far right activity - I don't want to call them Nationalists, because that is a positive thing.

http://wyborcza.pl/1,75478,18324703,szyk...-tego.html



In Poznan there were some demonstrations by the Polish Defense League:

http://polskaligaobrony.org.pl/

Their plan seems to be to make non-Christian non-White immigrants not feel welcome. Also I might stress that the far right has actually little against Ukrainian immigrants. I personally saw mostly girls which is great and since their people share a similar race, religion and values - also they look the same generally.

In any case it certainly helps to be on the lookout - whether pepper spray is necessary during night game in Poznan remains to be seen.

The actions of the far right frankly are hardly necessary in Poland. Social security here is such a pittance that you can only survive on it if you own your own cheap flat in the city or have a farm. Even if Poland takes in 50.000 instead of 2.000, most of them will soon try to move to a Western country. The few that remain will be very productive here.

I might also add that I don't accuse the immigrants here.

The elite has caused the "Arab spring" by causing a rise in global food prices (strangely through "green" policies which let big agro plant fuel instead of food), using covert agencies and toppling leaders in the Middle East. Also they have financed and used psychopaths like Al Quaeda in Libya and now Syria to oust other dictators. They knew that this would cause many refugees which is another plan. They wish to destroy the uniformity of the European nations by immigration - just like they do in the US and Canada. The few far right organizations won't be able to do anything against it. By the way - don't let the Australian government's words fool you - immigration goes on without pause there too.

Currently there is little to be afraid in Poland except the usual drunk aggressive Pole who got no pussy - but that can happen almost anywhere.

I found some cheap flights to Warsaw this week and was thinking of taking a trip. Is it worth going to Warsaw this time of year or is Kiev a better choice? We will only have about ten days.

(08-31-2015 10:14 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  I found some cheap flights to Warsaw this week and was thinking of taking a trip. Is it worth going to Warsaw this time of year or is Kiev a better choice? We will only have about ten days.

Both are great

I was told by one polish person that the (limited amount) of refugees here in Poland get 3500zl a month. A second person once told me that they get more than 3000zl a month. I don't know how much truth there is in that but I do know it would be stirring shit here when the local people work for 2000 a month if they are lucky.
Also the same reason why you have massive nationalist demos in East Germany and not so much in West Germany. West Germans get paid more and are less pissy about the immigrants getting so much money from the government.

(08-31-2015 12:07 PM)spalex Wrote:  I was told by one polish person that the (limited amount) of refugees here in Poland get 3500zl a month. A second person once told me that they get more than 3000zl a month. I don't know how much truth there is in that but I do know it would be stirring shit here when the local people work for 2000 a month if they are lucky.
Also the same reason why you have massive nationalist demos in East Germany and not so much in West Germany. West Germans get paid more and are less pissy about the immigrants getting so much money from the government.

If that is true, then they get x-times more than the average Polish social security recipient. Poles get something in the vicinity of 750zl per month - maybe some more if they have kids, but it certainly does not pay enough to not work in Poland.

So given the amount of 3000zl+ I think that the EU has told Poland to pay immigrants that much. Interestingly enough the information is not public on how much they get, but it is very likely that they receive much more than the locals. Some even talk about 3000 Euros per family, but I don't know about that.

In any case - I doubt that anyone from here has to fear much. If I walk into a village club in Poland I can get beaten up too as an obvious bloke from the big city. Poland is not a dangerous country in that respect and it likely won't be in the near future.

I was talking to a colleague at work about this topic and I confirm that they receive around 3,000 pln, depending their situation (kids, etc.). The fact is they were still trying to get to Germany because they were not happy about that (facilities, accommodation, etc.).
When winter will come it will be another story.

The good thing is there will be elections in october, right-wing faction is going to win so Poland will accept no refugees, maybe except some people from the Ukraine who has polish extraction.

(08-25-2015 02:00 AM)melina Wrote:  Few things I left out.

I was told Polish girls love America (whatever that means) so being an American guy you could have an advantage over the local men. American guys are supposedly 3rd to Italian and Latin men according Polish girls on the Polish forum I posted.

You might try to open with "Cześć, Jestem Amerykaninem" pronounced.... Chi-shh-tsh, Yes-Tem Amair-e-con-knee-nem ... roll the r. Meaning, "Hi, I'm American" this should peak her interest. Not only does she now know you're American but I was told Polish people LOVE when foreigners try to speak their language because of how tough it is, this will be good in keeping a conversation going, she will be happy to teach you some words in Polish. Cześć is hard to say at first, I would youtube it and listen and listen and listen some more. And trust me Polish is fucking hard. Just listen to the alphabet and some sentences - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJI6JDAxUd4 <---yeah...

When Polish girls speak English, my god is it sexy. Roosh you will especially love hearing them say RRRoosh with that rolling of the r lol.

I hope you like Techno/House/Trance, that's what they play in most clubs. Here is an exceptionally good Polish Techno song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HOd9mpGeZs

And here is an exceptionally hot polish porn star Kasia (kasha) - tube8 or here <-- trust me you will fap to this at least 30 times in the next week.

haha, you must be trolling us.

What did they respond to your great opener, "aha, okey, that's nice" ?

(09-04-2015 03:25 AM)Booyah Wrote:  haha, you must be trolling us.

What did they respond to your great opener, "aha, okey, that's nice" ?

Probably these people live on the moon, and haven't any idea on what Poland is in 2015.
Maybe this opener could work twenty years ago.
Being a foreigner is no longer an advantage, as well as speaking some sentence in Polish. Nightlife was insane in Krakow until 2011. Now high-end klubs are everywhere, and in most of the cases, attitude of girls is even bad than in West. It's a sausage fest compared to 2-3 years ago, when was still good compared to West. Too many roosters are singing in the same place.
I am pretty sure that now it's easier to achieve results in West, with the same level of game, status, look, etc.

(09-06-2015 06:03 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 03:25 AM)Booyah Wrote:  haha, you must be trolling us.

What did they respond to your great opener, "aha, okey, that's nice" ?

Probably these people live on the moon, and haven't any idea on what Poland is in 2015.
Maybe this opener could work twenty years ago.
Being a foreigner is no longer an advantage, as well as speaking some sentence in Polish. Nightlife was insane in Krakow until 2011. Now high-end klubs are everywhere, and in most of the cases, attitude of girls is even bad than in West. It's a sausage fest compared to 2-3 years ago, when was still good compared to West. Too many roosters are singing in the same place.
I am pretty sure that now it's easier to achieve results in West, with the same level of game, status, look, etc.

I agree, specially with Warsaw or Krakow. I liked a few polish girls enough to try again. But now...is it worth trying a small city like Lublin or Gdansk if you are over 30?

(09-06-2015 11:38 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 06:03 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

(09-04-2015 03:25 AM)Booyah Wrote:  haha, you must be trolling us.

What did they respond to your great opener, "aha, okey, that's nice" ?

Probably these people live on the moon, and haven't any idea on what Poland is in 2015.
Maybe this opener could work twenty years ago.
Being a foreigner is no longer an advantage, as well as speaking some sentence in Polish. Nightlife was insane in Krakow until 2011. Now high-end klubs are everywhere, and in most of the cases, attitude of girls is even bad than in West. It's a sausage fest compared to 2-3 years ago, when was still good compared to West. Too many roosters are singing in the same place.
I am pretty sure that now it's easier to achieve results in West, with the same level of game, status, look, etc.

I agree, specially with Warsaw or Krakow. I liked a few polish girls enough to try again. But now...is it worth trying a small city like Lublin or Gdansk if you are over 30?

I just can't agree with this. I was in Wroclaw for 2 nights and Krakow for 5 earlier this summer and within that time I had a 7+ polish girl in each city wanting to date long-term. Months later they still message me. My decent looking asian travel buddy had a similar experience. I would rate my game as beginner and I rarely approached at the time. Sure you might get more ONSs in the West but I'd take going out in Poland to going out in every US city, NYC withstanding, any day of the week.

Although I got a few harsh rejections, Polish girls attitudes were definitely better than their western counterparts. Both girls I was with were extremely feminine, studying medicine, and I met them at night. I met this caliber of girl 1/year in NYC. Perhaps it was even better a few years ago and you guys are reminiscing on the change but I'm currently stuck in LA and wishing I could go back to Poland.

But according to what you guys are saying maybe I fit the demographic as I'm early 20's and could pass for being Polish (but don't speak the language).

If you're in Krakow, make sure you're hitting up shine on Saturdays. That place was a goldmine for me. Here's a pic I took from the upstairs balcony.

(09-06-2015 11:38 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  I agree, specially with Warsaw or Krakow. I liked a few polish girls enough to try again. But now...is it worth trying a small city like Lublin or Gdansk if you are over 30?

It should be better I suppose but I also would consider how the quality of living/opportunities of self improvement there would be impacted. If you come for vacation, that's fine, but on a long term I don't see many work opportunities as in Krakow and Warsaw.

I have an update on the recent far right activity observed in Poland:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1106263

Turns out there was recently a brutal crime - axe-killing of a 10 year old girl by a Syrian immigrant (no drugs, no psychotic state). The media covered it all up, but I guess the Neonazis found out soon enough.

But as people observed here - there is hardly anything to fear here even if you are Middle Eastern looking. Poland is a relatively safe country - the hoodlums, criminals and psychos left for the UK & Ireland - heh. No kidding - they really did - I heard stories from before 2006 which were not pretty in many areas in Poland. Back then I wasn't here so I cannot tell.

(09-07-2015 09:15 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But as people observed here - there is hardly anything to fear here even if you are Middle Eastern looking. Poland is a relatively safe country - the hoodlums, criminals and psychos left for the UK & Ireland - heh. No kidding - they really did - I heard stories from before 2006 which were not pretty in many areas in Poland. Back then I wasn't here so I cannot tell.

I cannot really agree about it. Most of us would have been to Poland, stayed in a short or mid-term in what we can call tourist "places". Meaning the heart of the cities where you have some police presence.
For example, if you stay in Krakow in old town during one week, you would say that it's very safe. Of course it is, a lot of policemen secure the place, day and night. Same story for Warsaw if you stay near the train station or around, it's quiet safe.

However, you have really shitty places in both of these cities, just to name it. In Warsaw, if you go to Praga at night, you have to be careful, everything can happen. I was walking around with a polish friend and she told me to not speak English when we were passing by guys to not get into trouble. In Krakow, some part of Nowa Huta and Podgorze are terrible. But as a tourist you are not likely to go to such places. To avoid places where you have football games is also a good advice. Both Krakow teams hooligans are mainly the only ones who didn't sign this European tract about football fans where you cannot used knifes and weapons during football fan battles. During Krakow derby, polish people call it "machette day" because fans are roaming in the streets looking for opposite football fans with knifes and machettes.

Anyway, the main difference between Poland and some western cities, is that you won't get into big troubles if you are not looking for it. In some countries, you cant just get stabbed because some guys wanted to, without any reasons. In Poland, if you are not giving stares to guys or trying to act like a moron, then you are not likely to have troubles.

Just gotten back from a weekend attending a wedding in Poland and it was amazing. Planning a proper trip right now.

Those weddings are awesome aren't they?

just a funny truth sometimes .

i still would bang i think .

(09-07-2015 02:29 PM)zuma Wrote:  I cannot really agree about it. Most of us would have been to Poland, stayed in a short or mid-term in what we can call tourist "places". Meaning the heart of the cities where you have some police presence.
For example, if you stay in Krakow in old town during one week, you would say that it's very safe. Of course it is, a lot of policemen secure the place, day and night. Same story for Warsaw if you stay near the train station or around, it's quiet safe.

However, you have really shitty places in both of these cities, just to name it. In Warsaw, if you go to Praga at night, you have to be careful, everything can happen. I was walking around with a polish friend and she told me to not speak English when we were passing by guys to not get into trouble. In Krakow, some part of Nowa Huta and Podgorze are terrible. But as a tourist you are not likely to go to such places. To avoid places where you have football games is also a good advice. Both Krakow teams hooligans are mainly the only ones who didn't sign this European tract about football fans where you cannot used knifes and weapons during football fan battles. During Krakow derby, polish people call it "machette day" because fans are roaming in the streets looking for opposite football fans with knifes and machettes.

Anyway, the main difference between Poland and some western cities, is that you won't get into big troubles if you are not looking for it. In some countries, you cant just get stabbed because some guys wanted to, without any reasons. In Poland, if you are not giving stares to guys or trying to act like a moron, then you are not likely to have troubles.

Polish cities are currently safer than most Western European ones.

What you are describing in Praga/Warsaw is just a socio-economic thing. They wouldn't single you out because you are a foreigner, but because speaking English tells them that you have at least some money. The same would happen to a wealthy-looking Pole. But the most that you can expect for now is a stupid: "You looking at me?! You think you are better than me?!" kind of behavioral pattern.

I live here long-term for now and I go at Krakow-Nowa Huta jogging / driving a bike sometimes at midnight as I enjoy the architecture there and it is a far enough workout since I live on the other side of the city. Sometimes guys look at me since I don't look Polish and I don't seem to be poor - but that's more curiosity of an exotic dog. The girls give me looks as well - for similar reasons - heh.

I only know one Polish guy who was robbed by 4 youths in recent times and that guy is an average overweight 45 year old Pole - it was something done by youth who grew up at social housing projects nearby.

As I said - here it's a socio-economic issue. Football hooligans are another matter - avoid them. They are revved up and want to hit someone - any excuse is good enough for them.

Still - all of this is easy to avoid frankly. I have been to rougher areas in relatively safe US cities like San Diego or Boston. In those areas I sensed a far greater potential danger to my life than in any area in Poland so far.

Lol I'm not sure what to believe on this post.

My 4 weeks in krakow have been amazing, I'm liked here even more than in Zagreb which is even more remarkable considering I have a social status in Zagreb that I don't here. I'm a brown Indian guy who isn't a hunk by any means and I'm tired of what has happened in these 4 weeks. I have 7 polish friends who are hooligans for cracovia and Wisla respectively and they don't give a fuck that I'm brown and don't give a shit about their football teams, they also don't give a fuck that I'm fucking their women. I'm not sure what else to add really. Women are hot as long as you hit on the hotties, Daygame is great, night game is great, gaming at work is great, gaming on train platforms is great. I'll see zelcorpion soon enough though

You must be a hunk then. Here in Warsaw I have never seen an Indian guy with hot white gf. There are lots of Indian guys working in my office building in the central part of the city. They always hang out outside of the building in groups never accompanied by local women.