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I would play hard to get, should be easy since you don't care that much. Tell her perhaps. Then tell her you're very busy and don't have a lot of time to waste on her if she's going to be unsure like last time. You don't want to say yeah and then have her waste your time like last time. Since she contacted you after a few months, clearly she is interested now. You want to meet up with her knowing that you're gonna get something. That's how I'd handle it.

A FWB I'm seeing has really initiated/escalated cuss words/swearing into our texts. Wondering if I should double down and go toe-to-toe or just ignore and remain normal.

As a background
-She's 23, Aussie chick
-Whenever we meet up (once every 2 weeks or so), she is very sexual, compliant, essentially no LMR
-Although it's hard to tell, she does seem somewhat invested in me as she has paid for things equally overall and even recently bought me a thoughtful gift. However, unlikely that we'll end up LTR as we're heading in different directions the next few years
-On the one hand she has the "naive, young girl who wants to be cared for" side to her and she wants to start a family and have children
-On the other hand she drinks a lot and this side of her pops up where she swears a lot
-Funnily enough, she said she gets turned on by intellectual conversation and I didn't actually believe her until one time where I had finished explaining something to her and she was ridiculously wet

Anyway, She's started using the word cunt and fuck a lot in texts including referring to me directly.
I'm not a fan of swearing when there's no real reason to, just not my style. Personally think it's a bit sad if people need to swear that much.
However, I don't have a problem with swearing incessantly and sending a few cutting/brutal texts of my own
I'm just unsure if I should ignore it, double down and play along with it or call her out on it (although risk coming across as sensitive/butthurt and potentially blow up FWB)
Obviously if she was LTR I would call her out on it early.

I just want to keep banging her for as long as I can until we go our different ways. She is great in bed so don't want to upset the apple cart too much since we're FWB.

How should I proceed:
1. Just match her with swearing texts when she does it. This may show me up as a reactive beta but may be the best middle ground
2. Ignore her swearing and just reply to texts normally without resorting to that language. I don't know if this will pain me as a major beta / nerd and she will friendzone me
3. Just keep up the swearing throughout and really send brutal/cutting texts whenever we text - this seems like the most alpha thing to do but I fear that it may hit her hard if she has her vulnerable moments (which she does from time to time)

Becuase we only meet up every 2 weeks or so, I do need some text game to keep in touch and not lose touch completely and it wouldn't be difficult for her to find new cock

So, there's a girl i met on a concert 2 days ago, here's the text

Me:-hi! Was it a good party yesterday?
Her:-Hi! NO, i didnt have energy to go to the city afterwards
Were you get home that night?
Me.-Yeah i catched the last train succesfully
Are you studying now, what did you say when will you have your exam?
Her:-That's cool then
Yeah im learning, the big day will be on 27th.
Attached picture
Search for yourself
Me:-Well i bet theres a better picture of me somewhere
Say, how do you have free time after your exam?

Now here she took a little more time to answer, above texts were 15-45 min delayed (mine as well, that last one took me an hour , so i tried to take the 2/3 rule)
But she texted this me today:

Her:-Please, who can see that far

So what now? its kinda obvious i wanted to get to know her schedule, but as it seems, i couldnt, and i dunno how next.

Fenyoluc. They're are alot of texting going on in which she reposition your frame into her frame.
I would State your objective and set parameters of what you expect from her. For every good deed she does reward accordingly to create Pavlov's law. After you have stated your intentions because you're not a beta mirror her playing/gang style. While doing all this have other women join your team to fill in the space the times when radio silence is needed. Good luck.

Well this is a great general advice but i neked something mire concrete now. Thanks tough i appreciate it

(06-20-2018 04:01 AM)FenyoLuc Wrote:  So, there's a girl i met on a concert 2 days ago, here's the text

Me:-hi! Was it a good party yesterday?
Her:-Hi! NO, i didnt have energy to go to the city afterwards
Were you get home that night?
Me.-Yeah i catched the last train succesfully
Are you studying now, what did you say when will you have your exam?
Her:-That's cool then
Yeah im learning, the big day will be on 27th.
Attached picture
Search for yourself
Me:-Well i bet theres a better picture of me somewhere
Say, how do you have free time after your exam?

Now here she took a little more time to answer, above texts were 15-45 min delayed (mine as well, that last one took me an hour , so i tried to take the 2/3 rule)
But she texted this me today:

Her:-Please, who can see that far

So what now? its kinda obvious i wanted to get to know her schedule, but as it seems, i couldnt, and i dunno how next.

She seems like she could be interested, but is definitely taking frame and not giving you a lot. I'd go radio silent or tease her with "go study, I'll have fun for you" or something like that. Or just ignore it and tell her you should celebrate after her exam is done and then go radio silent and hit her up the night of her exam or the next day.

Please critique my game.
The girl is a 28 year old Russian who I met and got the number of last week. Here's the last three days of texts

2 days ago:
Her - we should play tennis sometime
Me- Yup! 245 meeting ttyl

Yesterday;
Me- wow Russia won again, that's cool in front of the home crowd.
Her- you follow them more than me lol

Today
Her- hey you
Me- hey you I am ready to see you again
Her- Lol!! Did you ask me if I'm ready??
Me- oh haha um ya that too
Her (815 pm) I just got done tutoring

How should I have followed this up? I called her half an hour after I got the text and we had a nice chat and tentavtively scheduled something for Friday. Should I have pursued her tonight? She lives thirty minutes away and I have to get up early tomorrow so I wasn't planning on doing anything tonight, but it seems like there may have been an opening there.

(06-20-2018 09:18 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  She seems like she could be interested, but is definitely taking frame and not giving you a lot. I'd go radio silent or tease her with "go study, I'll have fun for you" or something like that. Or just ignore it and tell her you should celebrate after her exam is done and then go radio silent and hit her up the night of her exam or the next day.

Well i tried to go with the tease, "till you crawl out from your notes, should i have fun for you too" Not the exact sentence but close to it. Let's see what happens, if nothing then fuck it, silence from me.

(06-20-2018 09:51 PM)phluff127 Wrote:  Please critique my game.
The girl is a 28 year old Russian who I met and got the number of last week. Here's the last three days of texts

2 days ago:
Her - we should play tennis sometime
Me- Yup! 245 meeting ttyl

Yesterday;
Me- wow Russia won again, that's cool in front of the home crowd.
Her- you follow them more than me lol

Today
Her- hey you
Me- hey you I am ready to see you again
Her- Lol!! Did you ask me if I'm ready??
Me- oh haha um ya that too
Her (815 pm) I just got done tutoring

How should I have followed this up? I called her half an hour after I got the text and we had a nice chat and tentavtively scheduled something for Friday. Should I have pursued her tonight? She lives thirty minutes away and I have to get up early tomorrow so I wasn't planning on doing anything tonight, but it seems like there may have been an opening there.

Planning something a couple days later is completely fine. The only thing you risk is for the lead going cold and giving her more time to flake.

The last text exchange you had with her wasn't ideal. She tested you and you fell right into her frame. You started off well, you just didn't finish.

Her- Lol!! Did you ask me if I'm ready??
You- forgot it takes you 5 hours to get dolled up

Keep in contact with her until your meet up Friday. Don't need to blow her up but make sure you keep the lead warm.

Keep us posted and good luck.

I went on a date last week with this girl.

I texted her on Monday, "Hey this is dragan how are you doing?"
-"I'm fine... on my way to birthday party (sunglasses emoji).
I respond, "cool, you like my neighborhood (where we went on the date)?"
-"Yesss...MAFIA CAFE "
I respond, "ill show u more", "thursday?"
-"Sorry I have a lot of work to do..."
I say "OK I'll delete your number"
-"hahahahha ok"

Yeah, I don't think that girl was all that interested Dragan. Classic flake there.


If there were one thing I would recommend, though, it's to use less question marks. It makes you seem less "needy" if that makes any sense.

(06-21-2018 12:00 PM)Rang off the Pipe Wrote:  Yeah, I don't think that girl was all that interested Dragan. Classic flake there.


If there were one thing I would recommend, though, it's to use less question marks. It makes you seem less "needy" if that makes any sense.

thank you for the advise. I'll keep it in mind in future texting interactions.

Why do girls say “where is that?” when you tell them to meet you at xx bar? Any normal human being would google it. Is it a shit test to grab frame and if so, what’s the right response? “Google it”?

(07-18-2018 04:50 PM)winterfell Wrote:  Why do girls say “where is that?” when you tell them to meet you at xx bar? Any normal human being would google it. Is it a shit test to grab frame and if so, what’s the right response? “Google it”?

I don't think so, it's just them being dumb and hasty. Likely she wants a little info about the venue and talk some more. Link them to the google page and tell them to check it out

What do you do when a girl is texting/messaging you, but not giving you anything to work with? This is from the SA thread in the Newbie forum, but the guys there said I was doing it wrong and should ask for advice here.

I had messaged this girl a few weeks prior, but she hadn't come back to the site. Finally got a message from her. Her profile talks about how she likes good beer.

Her: Hey
Me: Hey you. Ready for that beer tasting?
Her: Yes haha
Me: Cool, we should definitely meet up
Her: I like how you’re dominant
Me: I like how you're submissive, hehe
Her: Only in the bedroom
Me: Cool with me. You can text me at xxx-xxx-xxxx

Didn't hear from her for a while, so I followed up with:

Me: Btw, if you're not comfortable giving out your number yet, I'm also xxxxxxx on kik [yeah, at this point I knew this was beta and was putting the ball in her court]
Her: Lets do that yeah?

A while later I get the following from a new person on kik:
"Hey"
I reply "Hey, are you the beer lover?"
Her: "Yeah thats me"

I'm not really seeing an opening here. What do you say when a girl is giving you nothing but these curt, terse replies?

@arcite don't put any more energy into it than what she is willing to put in, if she actually went through the trouble of adding you on kik that means she's interested at least on some superficial level. You already brought up meeting once so no need to push it until she is more interested. Try to make it about her and do a cold read about her personality or something to see if she bites. "You're a xxx type of girl aren't you..." or "Your pics... I know you're into xyz." Other than that if she doesn't bite just charge it to the game and focus on your next prospect.

(07-21-2018 10:40 AM)Arcite Wrote:  What do you do when a girl is texting/messaging you, but not giving you anything to work with? This is from the SA thread in the Newbie forum, but the guys there said I was doing it wrong and should ask for advice here.

I had messaged this girl a few weeks prior, but she hadn't come back to the site. Finally got a message from her. Her profile talks about how she likes good beer.

Her: Hey
Me: Hey you. Ready for that beer tasting?
Her: Yes haha
Me: Cool, we should definitely meet up
Her: I like how you’re dominant
Me: I like how you're submissive, hehe
Her: Only in the bedroom
Me: Cool with me. You can text me at xxx-xxx-xxxx

Didn't hear from her for a while, so I followed up with:

Me: Btw, if you're not comfortable giving out your number yet, I'm also xxxxxxx on kik [yeah, at this point I knew this was beta and was putting the ball in her court]
Her: Lets do that yeah?

A while later I get the following from a new person on kik:
"Hey"
I reply "Hey, are you the beer lover?"
Her: "Yeah thats me"

I'm not really seeing an opening here. What do you say when a girl is giving you nothing but these curt, terse replies?

Call, talk to her.

Alternately, stick in text/kik hell. You may be able to progress there, but I'd definitely push for a meetup but also mention you want to make sure she's not a serial killer first that type of thing to disarm her and get her chasing. You are the prize, don't give her too much, but get her out or you'll never get it in.

I'm sleepy and I can't get inspration:


Me: Okay, I might cook something for you one day
Her: Who knows?
Her: It is difficult to surprise me
Me: ?

(07-23-2018 11:31 PM)crispytaco Wrote:  I'm sleepy and I can't get inspration:


Me: Okay, I might cook something for you one day
Her: Who knows?
Her: It is difficult to surprise me
Me: ?

You haven't lost but you took her bait with your "?". It shows you care and rae keen to please, aka "I have no other prospects, thus will go to great lengths (read: cook) and chase you around the block to secure the bang". You've buffered off the neediness by writing "I might cook [...]", instead of "I will cook [...]" and a wink at the end but that's not enough - you need to give her a (playful) rub and see how she takes it. It's a subtle power play unfolding, methinks.

Reframe. (Gently) mock her. Show her you won't bite and play her game. I'd send that kind of pic and take it from there:

Oh thanks. I didn't put the "?". I haven't reply yet.

Met a FINE "christian" white girl in a coffee shop yesterday. Was real chatty and we were from the same area but she has a weird Ned Flanders overly nice vibe to her. We chatted for about 29 minutes.When she was leaving and I asked for her she looked like she did just to be nice. I went with rooshs text routine and when I hit her with would you like to hang out some e she said (paraphrasing)Next time our crew is in XYZ (city where we reside)does something fun I'll let you know!"

Social circle plays a good presence in my area but I'm focused on making money and don't have much time to socialize. What's the best way to flip this text to let her now I'm all about the date/bang but not come off as a creep.

What's a good response when a chick ghosts on you for a few days and then responds with what seems like a legitimate reason ?

For a little background (and I can provide more details), a chick I've been seeing/smashing on the regular for the last six months. Over the last couple of weeks, she's had a lot going on and couldn't meet up (kid stuff and work stuff).

Here's where I'll point out that, while she's a good girl to have around, pleasant, good company, and submissive in the bedroom, the ease in which I converted her to a notch has already disqualified her from being anything more than a very good fwb.

Last Friday I'd ran my standard setup texts for our usual Friday night meetup, but this time I wasn't asked when I was coming over to her place (like I usually am). At that point she ghosted on me, and a couple days later (Sunday night) I sent the following gif (and got no response):



Over the next few days, I'd posted some stories on one of my social media accounts, and sent her (and a handful of other contacts) some private pics as well. Still no response (this particular app has a setting where you can see when someone has opened your message), and the message sat unopened...

Until today.

She responded with a smiley face and the message "Sorry I haven't been around much, the ex has started semi stalking me and not leaving me alone again."

*I should note here that an older version of this app (that I use on my older phone) has a 'hack' where you can see the person's message without them knowing you've seen it. So as it stands now, as far as she's concerned, I haven't seen the "ex stalking" message.

My first thought was that the above is legitimate.. that there's better 'excuses' than the "stalking ex". Sick relative that's out of town, phone problems, out of the country (I/we live within an hour's drive of the Canadian border). All more believable reasons than what she gave. So I'm leaning toward legitimate.
Another part of me thinks she may have been testing her SMV over the last couple of weeks. Still another part thinks that maybe she and her ex tried to give it another go and failed miserably.

But I think I'm "too close to the elephant" to fashion a response that doesn't seem invading, bitter, or beta (?).

Any good response to potentially flush out more information without seeming like I'm trying to flush out more information ?

Why do you care so much? She mentioned she ghosted because of an ex all because you kept double/triple/quadruple/etc texting here.

You don't need more info you need to take a hint. If you cought feelings on a girl you're "smashing" that's on you. Who's playing whos game here? Whos winning?

(07-25-2018 11:35 PM)Sam Malone Wrote:  She responded with a smiley face and the message "Sorry I haven't been around much, the ex has started semi stalking me and not leaving me alone again."

*I should note here that an older version of this app (that I use on my older phone) has a 'hack' where you can see the person's message without them knowing you've seen it. So as it stands now, as far as she's concerned, I haven't seen the "ex stalking" message.

My first thought was that the above is legitimate.. that there's better 'excuses' than the "stalking ex". Sick relative that's out of town, phone problems, out of the country (I/we live within an hour's drive of the Canadian border). All more believable reasons than what she gave. So I'm leaning toward legitimate.
Another part of me thinks she may have been testing her SMV over the last couple of weeks. Still another part thinks that maybe she and her ex tried to give it another go and failed miserably.

But I think I'm "too close to the elephant" to fashion a response that doesn't seem invading, bitter, or beta (?).

Any good response to potentially flush out more information without seeming like I'm trying to flush out more information ?

Personally I wouldn't worry about flushing out more information over text. There are a million possibilities for her lack of / delayed response, legitimate and illegitimate. I wouldn't read too much into the ex– thing, and pestering her about it will be perceived as, and is, insecure. At any rate, her only behavioural transgression was not to invite you over, and she apologised – I would consider that minor.

Obviously your FWB relationship so do as you see fit. But the ball is very much in your court. I would wait a week or two, check the text so that she sees you have, and make contact as you usually would. If she doesn't invite you but you want to see her, invite yourself over, nothing wrong with that.

If she becomes increasingly flakey with time and that's a boundary for you (ie. a waste of your time), you have the option to let her go and pay more attention to other plates.