(06-03-2016 11:51 AM)Moma Wrote:  Do Americans really have hangups about sex? The lizards here give it away like coupons. Or maybe it's the higher scale white lizards that are difficult to certain groups. Naughty Nomad lived in NYC for a bit and was battering it.

You're a player Moma! What happens to regular guys doesn't apply to you. Even if you don't think your regular life is all that special, most guys who look just like you want a tenth of your success.

Chicks in general
- have more opportunities for sex with people they want to have sex with
- have more sex
- have more diverse sex (because biologically, she's in the receiving end. Whereas a guy has to do all the work)

When it comes to the amount and variety, the middle class chick is more likely to be vanilla and judge chicks for being sluts.

Lower class chicks have nothing better to do. Hood chicks are more likely to be judged for it, but they are also getting a lot more alpha attention. Trailer parks included.

Upper class chicks tend to be bored, so they're more up for kinky stuff. The chicks that wanted first night anal and for me to choke them were always from better socio economic classes than me. And there's an extra level of danger for a black man, when Caitlin wants you to put your hands on her.

Men tend to be the conservative ones, and this game board shows that everyday.

Men
- most have less sex, with less attractive than they would prefer
- have more vanilla sex

That is part of the reason that the "secret society" concept is so powerful. When a man shows a chick that he's not afraid of sex, not afraid of her sexuality, that he can recognize her poorly hidden sexual being, that he will escalate - he moves up a notch. Little if any game required.

WIA

(06-03-2016 11:51 AM)Moma Wrote:  Do Americans really have hangups about sex? The lizards here give it away like coupons. Or maybe it's the higher scale white lizards that are difficult to certain groups. Naughty Nomad lived in NYC for a bit and was battering it.

I've noticed these "hangups about sex" in American girls as well. But it doesn't mean they're hard to bang. American girls are actually sluttier, wilder and crazier than mainland Euro girls. But it takes more (game, status, bankroll, physique) to bring out that sluttiness in American girls.

In Germany for instance, an average looking guy with no game can walk into a bar/club, throw down a couple Beck's, meet a girl, talk a bit and if she is attracted to him ... she'll politely invite him to her home and they'll have sex. They might exchange numbers or just part ways in the morning. Period. I was surprised how earnest German/Dutch/Belgian girls were about sex. They'll met you half-way to make it happen.

In America ... a girl might be attracted to you and like you but that's just part of the battle. You met at a bar, convo & liquor is flowing, booty is shaking, she wants to fuck BUT it's almost like they want you to trick them them into going home with you so they don't feel like sluts. An attitude which is almost non existent in the Euro countries I mentioned above.

Hence all the "who do you think lies more? Men or women?", false time constraints, kino escalation and smoke & mirrors shit like Netflix & Chill or "there's an afterparty at my place" - which I've found to be overkill & unnecessary in Europe.

I'd go as far as saying that game (beyond the basics) is not necessary in Europe. A dweeby looking guy like RSD Tyler with great game can pull 8's in America every night. In Europe, he'll get exactly the type of girls his looks warrant - a plain Jane 5 or 6.

Europe doesn't punish bad game as harshly as America. Doesn't reward great game like America either.

(06-03-2016 11:14 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I am not picking on you but I am hearing a lot of excuses, your last statement said there are multiple factors at play. Please explain?

I understand you are Indian, things will work differently for you.
For me trying to break into a social circle will not work for me. I am a "serious threat" to the males in that group. In fact, I have had some dudes try to befriend me in a mocking way to show "their" gals they are cool and to neutralize me.
I don't play that game.

As Archie so eloquently stated, most dudes are meeting girls by swiping left or right. Look at this forum, the Tinder thread is huge. I am not knocking just stating the the obvious.

I'm Southeast Asian. Sorry, no IRT here

When I said "multiple factors at play here though" I simply mean there's more to getting laid in Europe than just showing up. Just saying "hi" to a girl they just saw in real life, for starters, which let's be honest, most guys anywhere won't do, even with alcohol. Hence the Tinder thread, as you mentioned.

Also, it may or may not be true that as a black guy, breaking into a social circle won't work for you. I'm more inclined to believe you've got to go about it differently. My guess is, just like I have to prove I'm not asexual to the girls in the group (lifting, dressing right, and Game help in that regard), you may have to show you're not a horn dog joining the group solely to get laid. Maybe make it a point to befriend the males first, most likely by sharing an experience with them. Playing a sport with them comes to mind, and is an easy - and yes, stereotypical - association for them with you, especially if you're good. In my social circle in the US, that seemed to be what worked for the black guys I knew.

Hope that helps.

262, Rude is not saying that as a black guy, breaking into a social circle won't work. He's saying that as per his temperament and experimentation, it doesn't work for him. I do certain social circles personally and they work but I don't do them to get laid. The byproduct is, they do work as they are unconventional, lay stomping grounds. Basically, be creative with what you do and one size doesn't fit all.

^
Fair enough. But then I don't understand why he'd be a "serious threat" then. Perhaps he's tried to adjust his temperament to suit, but no luck? Genuinely curious. Always want to understand and help good guys on the forum if possible. Side benefit is I might learn something I can use or adapt for myself.

(06-04-2016 05:09 AM)262 Wrote:  ^
Fair enough. But then I don't understand why he'd be a "serious threat" then. Perhaps he's tried to adjust his temperament to suit, but no luck? Genuinely curious. Always want to understand and help good guys on the forum if possible. Side benefit is I might learn something I can use or adapt for myself.

It's his experience. You take gems from others and apply it to your own situation. Some people are viewed as threats to a group based on how they come forth and others play down that energy and try and conform for the time being. It doesn't mean that it's a universal law or strategy. As Archie says, game is a custom suit. Sorry, I had to edit that. Game is a custom suit. You customise it for your personality, outlook and energy.

262 - Breaking into any social circle has never been a problem for me, I can sit down with almost any group of people and chop it up. I would even go one step further and say I am almost an expert at doing this.

Trying to break into a social group to meet girls, is a waste of my time. I would never try to come across asexual or act gay just to make others feel comfortable. If that is your "game" and it works for you, so be it. There are other ways to skin a cat.

I never said that all you have to do is show up and say "Hi". What I am saying is that getting girls in Europe is easy to the point you cannot call it game. Meeting girls on the street is a part of life in most countries, if you are a foreigner then the chances are she will be receptive. You will not get the screwface or instant brush off like you do in the West.

The joy for me of travelling, is that it is easier to meet girls. I also like to learn about other cultures, so it isn't all about women. In my 20 years of travelling, I don't recall a negative experience in dealing with women. The biggest problem was always lack of time and not being in a place long enough.

Lastly, you are in Poland. There is a reason why many guys go there, guests on our show have raved about it (Drew Morrisey show). Germany, Hungary and Scandinavia always get mentioned by our guests as well. Look at the travel section and there are a handful of countries that get mentioned and have there own threads. I know first hand that there are many guys that are beating down certain countries right now (ahem FSU) and are keeping it quiet.

@WIA, thanks for laying that explanation down for me. I understand the source of this idea better now.

You also explained why I got into this stuff in the first place. I was tired of always being chosen. I wanted the power of being the chooser.

I'm planning on getting a piercing and earrings in a couple months. What are you guys rocking? Don't like the diamond sparkle ones though. Anything that's been heavily complimented by women?

(06-05-2016 09:37 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I'm planning on getting a piercing and earrings in a couple months. What are you guys rocking? Don't like the diamond sparkle ones though. Anything that's been heavily complimented by women?

Rock whatever works for you. I don't wear jewellery or earrings. Too many people were doing it in my circle and I was never a fan of following the crowd all the way. Same thing with tattoos. I used to have lizards perusing my body after sex looking for ink and I said I don't have any.

My experiences are my tattoos.

I just have one in each ear and look like plugs but arent.

(06-05-2016 09:37 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I'm planning on getting a piercing and earrings in a couple months. What are you guys rocking? Don't like the diamond sparkle ones though. Anything that's been heavily complimented by women?

Man, I haven't worn an earring in years. But my left ear is pierced since I was 19 when some chick talked me into it, lol
I thought about getting a nice diamond earring to wear every now and again.
I have one tattoo on my bicep. Thought about getting something on my chest, but nothing really comes to mind and I won't put anything for the sake of having a tattoo.
On another note, I think I'm going to buy a nice chain to wear occasionally. Especially when I'm at the pool shirtless. Nothing fancy, just a 30" stainless steel byzantine w/ an Egyptian Ankh charm.

Overall though, a nice pair of sunglasses is really the only accessory you need in the summer time.


Question, how are you guys rocking your hair? Bald fade, completely shaven, twist, dreads, etc?

I usually wear a tight fade, but I'm thinking of rocking a bald head this summer for that clean look

No tattoo's for me, still don't understand why black guys get them. I can hardly see them and they look like slave markings to me.

No ear rings either, I also had one in high school but out grew that.

Bald head, had the straightened slick black look many years ago. The strong chemical killed my scalp (fuck you TCB).
Ever notice how many black guys have lost their hair or are losing their hair. In the Caribbean, you hardly see many bald heads.

Lol, I definitely agree on the indiscernible tattoos. I got my kids birthday written within the tattoo on my arm, and that shit looks like Arabic writing now. I absolutely despise visible tattoos on women. It's damn a near deal breaker for any kind of serious LTr consideration. I attend a lot of black tie functions and scoff at the idea of my chick wearing a spaghetti strap dress with crazy ass tattoos all over.

I think the male pattern baldness is strictly genetic, but definitely could have something to do with the dangerous chemicals most hair products are comprised of.
I remember growing up were told to put grease in our hair? That trend is basically non existent except for the 360 wave guys.

(06-06-2016 11:34 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Lol, I definitely agree on the indiscernible tattoos. I got my kids birthday written within the tattoo on my arm, and that shit looks like Arabic writing now. I absolutely despise visible tattoos on women. It's damn a near deal breaker for any kind of serious LTr consideration. I attend a lot of black tie functions and scoff at the idea of my chick wearing a spaghetti strap dress with crazy ass tattoos all over.

I think the male pattern baldness is strictly genetic, but definitely could have something to do with the dangerous chemicals most hair products are comprised of.
I remember growing up were told to put grease in our hair? That trend is basically non existent except for the 360 wave guys.

Someone told me that lizard with tattoos have emotional issues and are good for rough anal.

Yeah one thing I learned a while back is you don't even need to put grease in your hair to get waves. All you need is water, a brush and a wave cap (and your hair be short enough to wave up). Also I've heard that it's unnecessary for us to shampoo our hair more than two or three times a week. More than that and you are stripping your hair of essential natural oils it produces.

As far as hair loss my hair is thinning slightly and I've been experimenting with the ORS (Organic Root stimulator) products, and have noticed some regrowth it just takes a while to see results.

Any non-drinkers out here gaming?

Alcohol has always played a significant role in my past dating, hell it was damn near synonymous. I stopped drinking nearly 3 years ago and reflected on how I had really only smashed a small handful of tricks while completely sober. Long story short, it was one of the reasons I buckled down with my current LTR because drinking while dating just seemed unavoidable. I had this preconceived notion that I needed alcohol to smash. It took me awhile to overcome this self inflicting myth.
Since then, I've been back out there and have discovered that I really didn't need alcohol, and actually enjoy having full dominion over my senses while dating/sexing females.

Lol, I did recently have a chick tell me she didn't trust people who don't drink while hanging out. I had limited interest in her to begin with so it didn't go anywhere, however I don't mind chicks who drink, but can't stand sloppy drunk ones. If she's drinking I'll have a ginger ale with a cherry in it.

dime, I don't always drink, I don't see it makes a difference to my approach now. You can pretend you are drinking to those lame lizards by ordering a water with a straw in it and some ice to make it look like you are drinking a tonic. Former Miami member Mixx used to practise this technique (he was a teetotaler).

Not really a field report from this weekend but something funny happened:

I was out with a girlfriend of mine and she brought out her friend of hers and she told me explicitly her friend doesn't like black guys.... Well now looks like she changed her mind... I didn't close it but she wouldnt have done done the stuff she did with me if she wasn't. The girl could barely speak English too!

Don't get discouraged sometimes if you hear a girl isn't interested in black men... Just keep moving forward until you get real pushback.

(06-06-2016 01:02 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  Any non-drinkers out here gaming?

Alcohol has always played a significant role in my past dating, hell it was damn near synonymous. I stopped drinking nearly 3 years ago and reflected on how I had really only smashed a small handful of tricks while completely sober.

I also used to drink heavily while gaming but ive noticed it affects my game greatly... I get way too sloppy and lackadaisical so ive cut back immensely. It helped with approach anxiety but when I had to have conversations with girls the wit and tact went out the window..

Much better results cutting back on the alcohol. Approach Anxiety has also been better recently.

(06-06-2016 03:29 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Not really a field report from this weekend but something funny happened:

I was out with a girlfriend of mine and she brought out her friend of hers and she told me explicitly her friend doesn't like black guys.... Well now looks like she changed her mind... I didn't close it but she wouldnt have done done the stuff she did with me if she wasn't. The girl could barely speak English too!

Don't get discouraged sometimes if you hear a girl isn't interested in black men... Just keep moving forward until you get real pushback.

Lol, glad you got to see how full of shit most woman can be first hand.

Hell I don't like white trash chicks, but catch me at the right moment and I'll buy her ass a six pack of tall can Keystone Light and have that trailer rockin!

(06-03-2016 12:35 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:51 AM)Moma Wrote:  Do Americans really have hangups about sex? The lizards here give it away like coupons. Or maybe it's the higher scale white lizards that are difficult to certain groups. Naughty Nomad lived in NYC for a bit and was battering it.

You're a player Moma! What happens to regular guys doesn't apply to you. Even if you don't think your regular life is all that special, most guys who look just like you want a tenth of your success.

Chicks in general
- have more opportunities for sex with people they want to have sex with
- have more sex
- have more diverse sex (because biologically, she's in the receiving end. Whereas a guy has to do all the work)

When it comes to the amount and variety, the middle class chick is more likely to be vanilla and judge chicks for being sluts.

Lower class chicks have nothing better to do. Hood chicks are more likely to be judged for it, but they are also getting a lot more alpha attention. Trailer parks included.

Upper class chicks tend to be bored, so they're more up for kinky stuff. The chicks that wanted first night anal and for me to choke them were always from better socio economic classes than me. And there's an extra level of danger for a black man, when Caitlin wants you to put your hands on her.

Men tend to be the conservative ones, and this game board shows that everyday.

Men
- most have less sex, with less attractive than they would prefer
- have more vanilla sex

That is part of the reason that the "secret society" concept is so powerful. When a man shows a chick that he's not afraid of sex, not afraid of her sexuality, that he can recognize her poorly hidden sexual being, that he will escalate - he moves up a notch. Little if any game required.

WIA

I see that you have your website up and running. Congrats. I know what my new home page is going to be. I think I might start a new thread every day if you are going to keep writing up answers to my threads on your blog

(06-06-2016 03:29 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Not really a field report from this weekend but something funny happened:

I was out with a girlfriend of mine and she brought out her friend of hers and she told me explicitly her friend doesn't like black guys.... Well now looks like she changed her mind... I didn't close it but she wouldnt have done done the stuff she did with me if she wasn't. The girl could barely speak English too!

Don't get discouraged sometimes if you hear a girl isn't interested in black men... Just keep moving forward until you get real pushback.

I love how a person's perception of me changes in real time as soon as I open my mouth, girls included. It's like they don't expect me to sound the way I sound, and to look at them they way I "dare" to look at them. The element of surprise is my best friend

(06-06-2016 07:29 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 03:29 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Not really a field report from this weekend but something funny happened:

I was out with a girlfriend of mine and she brought out her friend of hers and she told me explicitly her friend doesn't like black guys.... Well now looks like she changed her mind... I didn't close it but she wouldnt have done done the stuff she did with me if she wasn't. The girl could barely speak English too!

Don't get discouraged sometimes if you hear a girl isn't interested in black men... Just keep moving forward until you get real pushback.

I love how a person's perception of me changes in real time as soon as I open my mouth, girls included. It's like they don't expect me to sound the way I sound, and to look at them they way I "dare" to look at them. The element of surprise is my best friend

Have any of you black guys had that happen to you? You talk about something that it isn't stereotypically black, and the (usually white) girl is surprised and doesn't know what to think? It happens to me sometimes when I talk nerdy stuff to a white girl. I had one occasion on the train where I saw a white girl with a libertarian book (nerdy topic). I asked her about the book. She was shocked when she found out that I read the book and knew quite a bit about the author. I don't think she knew what to think since she never expected a black guy to hit on her on the train talking about Libertarianism.

Archie - site looks good my man, respect rasta!

Ever thought about adding a forum to your site?