(09-09-2015 02:25 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:53 PM)Oilrig Wrote:  Every time I go back to my hometown Houston, TX it seems like the quality just gets worse and worse on tinder. There used to be so many hot college and post grad girls, but now all you see are trashy and ethnic girls. It appears as if all the hot girls moved over to hinge.

Not sure how big it is in your area but give Bumble a look too.

Yep, a lot of hot girls have migrated to Hinge and Bumble.

“There is just so much opportunity on Tinder that we need to build features that help you filter through and find that one special person.”

When did it become about finding your soulmate? Perhaps it's that one special person for the night?

Unfortunately I haven't been able to download Bumble, I think Hinge may require that 8.0 upgrade as well.

@Greg I fit a similar description. A good majority of the matches I get don't respond after the opener. The only girl that was really down gave me her number in 4 messages and we me up in real life.

I'm 5'11, dread locs, and have my own style (nothing hip hop or street). I've certainly had better luck meeting girls outside of dating apps. Its an alternate reality. I just haven't been able to push those interactions into something more since getting into game.

I went direct with my bio, using some Manospherian-ish speak as a test run.




Some girls are opening me up. My first hit:

Vlad why not take it to text after the number grab? You've created somewhat of a DTF/Direct profile. Perhaps you could do an alternative one and compare the results?

I also don't think it was necessary to tell her that you will Tinder her.

(09-10-2015 12:06 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  Vlad why not take it to text after the number grab? You've created somewhat of a DTF/Direct profile. Perhaps you could do an alternative one and compare the results?

I also don't think it was necessary to tell her that you will Tinder her.

It was kind of late. Almost 10pm...no point in dragging it out. I once lost a girl because I yapped on for longer than I should have.

Will just follow up with her tomorrow. No Big Deal.

And yes i did. The more conservative/witty approach gets a lot of matches where it doesn't go anywhere. Of course it works too, except I'm feeling lazy and decided to go this route where my intentions are unavoidable from teh get-go.

(09-10-2015 12:06 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  I also don't think it was necessary to tell her that you will Tinder her.

Hey my good man...i understand but i wasn't overthinking it. I was misspelling and using bad grammar all over the place. She wants the Serbian D --that much is clear. We'll just see if she flakes out tomorrow or not.

Vicegrip tight game Vlad, All fucks are yours.

Just did my first round of Tinder swiping.

Living dangerous with that 1% battery @Vlad

Alright, just got back from seeing the girl. She didn't flake.

Things went good. We talked a lot...she asked me a lot of questions. I found out some things along the way. She is a Jewish-Atheist-Feminist who isn't "really looking for anything serious". After a good while of talking, I decided to ramp up the touching and kissed her. I talked myself into having her drive me to her place since she lived closer by. At first she resisted saying "i'm not driving you back, I'm not your sugar mama" to which I countered, no you're not but you're a responsible adult; you're not like these 20 year olds to which she said "That's true". But I made a major mistake which cost me --- I kissed and touched her when we were about to get into the car - and she changed her mind and just said "I think I'm just gonna walk you to your car" and something about "maybe you should invest into me some more" or something. It was over but I got one more good french kiss out of it as she walked me to my car --- considering that I might not see her again.

Big mistake on getting too touchy on the way to her car, but it I felt that it was the right thing to do at that point. In hindsight I should have just held off and see how far I can go to her place without any touching/kissing. The only reason I did is because we talked enough already.

(09-10-2015 09:37 PM)Goldhawkstar Wrote:  Just did my first round of Tinder swiping.

Is that real?

'active 10 hours ago'. I guess she reached her swiping limit and is waiting out the 12 hours for the next go around, until she matches with Thor Thundercock.

(09-09-2015 05:41 AM)GregGodard Wrote:  Using it for pipelining to 2 cities. (Berlin & Prague)

I'm 6'3 Black Guy with dreads (yeah odds are stacked against me). I'm not sure on where
I stand lookswise, I'm not bad looking but I wouldn't consider myself a Tyrese or something. I do get compliments on my looks, but than again I've also gotten remarks (not on tinder) from girls who were not into me at all.

I took 2 photo's with a system camera (lumix GF7) and the rest of my photo's are pictures with friends in Beverly Hills, Club with a girl (girl is cut out for the most part) and Club with friends acting as total fools.

I'll be leaving for Berlin tomorrow, but I will only stay for 1 day before I departure to Prague.

I've been using Tinder for 12 days and so far I've gotten:
- 35 Matches (I unmatched 2, because they were bots & 3 unmatched me)
- 16 didn't respond to my opener
- 2 Numbers (I don't really push for the number)

So far Berlin is pretty much a bust. A lot of hippie chicks, vegan bitches who all love traveling but never travel. It doesn't help that I will only be staying for a day, so I can't
really blame them for not being enthusiastic about my arrival. One of the girls that unmatched me was on my first day on Tinder and she was really eager to meet me, but unmatched me when I told her I wasn't in Berlin yet.

Planning to do some day & night game when I arrive and we'll see what happens. I'm actually more excited to do daygame, as I never really do that at all.

Pipelining Prague has been more promising. I have 2 waiting for my arrival (hence the numbers), but they are of the kind that I've grown tired of. Average quality girls who really want black men and I get a feeling that it doesn't even matter how I look. I have lost interest in that type, I don't even go out to clubs where I know that being a 6'3" black man is in my advantage. The reason I'm getting into game is not because of a lack of pussy, but for the thrill of the hunt. These girls are hunters and that's not my thing, but I'll keep 'm around just in case I get a dry spell.

I wasn't using Tinder back when it was really popular, but I do think there is probably a decline in action on Tinder. Most girls have ridiculous bio's full of instructions on how to behave. They never start the conversation and some even say so in their bio, as they think it's a man's job to initiate conversation. Even the wannabe feminist types from Berlin say this.

A lot of women are using Tinder to promote their Instagram. Atleast half of the women that didn't respond to me had their Instagram account on there. I don't open with 'hey'. I usually open with a comment about something in their picture. I tried the smiley opener 4 times, just to test it out, no response yet. I'll try it while I'm in Prague, as I will spend less time on the App.

The App has something addictive and I see the potential for making a person complacent, but It's definitely not a replacement for real life game. The girls that I can close in a club situation will not regularly swipe right on Tinder.

I'm a brother in Berlin too,been here since yesterday, two matches, no responses, though a girl just sent me a message on okc we will see how that goes

(09-11-2015 08:46 AM)Mabina Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 05:41 AM)GregGodard Wrote:  Using it for pipelining to 2 cities. (Berlin & Prague)

I'm 6'3 Black Guy with dreads (yeah odds are stacked against me). I'm not sure on where
I stand lookswise, I'm not bad looking but I wouldn't consider myself a Tyrese or something. I do get compliments on my looks, but than again I've also gotten remarks (not on tinder) from girls who were not into me at all.

I took 2 photo's with a system camera (lumix GF7) and the rest of my photo's are pictures with friends in Beverly Hills, Club with a girl (girl is cut out for the most part) and Club with friends acting as total fools.

I'll be leaving for Berlin tomorrow, but I will only stay for 1 day before I departure to Prague.

I've been using Tinder for 12 days and so far I've gotten:
- 35 Matches (I unmatched 2, because they were bots & 3 unmatched me)
- 16 didn't respond to my opener
- 2 Numbers (I don't really push for the number)

So far Berlin is pretty much a bust. A lot of hippie chicks, vegan bitches who all love traveling but never travel. It doesn't help that I will only be staying for a day, so I can't
really blame them for not being enthusiastic about my arrival. One of the girls that unmatched me was on my first day on Tinder and she was really eager to meet me, but unmatched me when I told her I wasn't in Berlin yet.

Planning to do some day & night game when I arrive and we'll see what happens. I'm actually more excited to do daygame, as I never really do that at all.

Pipelining Prague has been more promising. I have 2 waiting for my arrival (hence the numbers), but they are of the kind that I've grown tired of. Average quality girls who really want black men and I get a feeling that it doesn't even matter how I look. I have lost interest in that type, I don't even go out to clubs where I know that being a 6'3" black man is in my advantage. The reason I'm getting into game is not because of a lack of pussy, but for the thrill of the hunt. These girls are hunters and that's not my thing, but I'll keep 'm around just in case I get a dry spell.

I wasn't using Tinder back when it was really popular, but I do think there is probably a decline in action on Tinder. Most girls have ridiculous bio's full of instructions on how to behave. They never start the conversation and some even say so in their bio, as they think it's a man's job to initiate conversation. Even the wannabe feminist types from Berlin say this.

A lot of women are using Tinder to promote their Instagram. Atleast half of the women that didn't respond to me had their Instagram account on there. I don't open with 'hey'. I usually open with a comment about something in their picture. I tried the smiley opener 4 times, just to test it out, no response yet. I'll try it while I'm in Prague, as I will spend less time on the App.

The App has something addictive and I see the potential for making a person complacent, but It's definitely not a replacement for real life game. The girls that I can close in a club situation will not regularly swipe right on Tinder.

I'm a brother in Berlin too,been here since yesterday, two matches, no responses, though a girl just sent me a message on okc we will see how that goes

I've found having long hair as a black guy gives me more of an advantage especially if you can dress well. In regards to online dating for everyone, tinder/okc/POF these bitches are fucking neurotic. I try to approach at least as much as I match with. I get about 35-40 matches per month and don't consider myself handsome haha. Everyone knows online dating is shit these days, it's literally just an extension of chick's facebook/twitter/instagram.

@Greggodard: You need to read my post in the best of tinder thread for how to pipeline, you almost never tell chicks you aren't in town, they lose interest within seconds for the slightest shit.

-CD

I unistalled tinder cuz it had such a low ROI compared to my experience in badoo, got few matches and because of that I always had the doubt about age range
i'm 30, if my settings show me girls having 20-32 years old, does that mean that every girl has set up her age range to include 30 year old guys? or can my tinder show me girls that I will never have a match with because I'll never appear in hers due to being out of her age range?

For anyone using two truths and a lie, which you probably should be if you aren't, its worked really well for me. If we both guess wrong a good little line I use is: "Wow both wrong, clearly we don't know each other well enough. We should get together sometime and fix that." Or some variant of, almost always get the number after that.

(09-11-2015 01:10 AM)VforVlad Wrote:  Alright, just got back from seeing the girl. She didn't flake.

Things went good. We talked a lot...she asked me a lot of questions. I found out some things along the way. She is a Jewish-Atheist-Feminist who isn't "really looking for anything serious". After a good while of talking, I decided to ramp up the touching and kissed her. I talked myself into having her drive me to her place since she lived closer by. At first she resisted saying "i'm not driving you back, I'm not your sugar mama" to which I countered, no you're not but you're a responsible adult; you're not like these 20 year olds to which she said "That's true". But I made a major mistake which cost me --- I kissed and touched her when we were about to get into the car - and she changed her mind and just said "I think I'm just gonna walk you to your car" and something about "maybe you should invest into me some more" or something. It was over but I got one more good french kiss out of it as she walked me to my car --- considering that I might not see her again.

Big mistake on getting too touchy on the way to her car, but it I felt that it was the right thing to do at that point. In hindsight I should have just held off and see how far I can go to her place without any touching/kissing. The only reason I did is because we talked enough already.

I would analyze it differently and say that the problem was not that you kissed her, it was that you didn't kiss her enough, for reasons I explained in a couple of posts in the "Going Back to Her Place" thread https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-40601.html

I've banged scores of girls at their place, and in my experience, it is rare for a girl to invite you to her place if she is in a sexually cold state. In almost every case, I got the invitation after I had made out with her quite a bit, including groping her naughty parts, to the point she was very aroused. A wet and aching pussy is what she needs to motivate her to invite a guy she barely knows to her home for a bang session.

In your case, the girl obviously liked you, but her rational mind was still running things and she shut you down because she wasn't aroused enough. Girls are dominated by their moods and she wasn't horny enough yet.

Tuth's First Date Bang Recipe and BlurredSeven's Zero Date Bang Formula both say don't sexualize prior to isolation, but they are both in the context of the girl coming to your place, which is psychologically very different. In my experience, if a girl invites you to her place, especially at night, she has the intention of fucking you, so she has to be craving sex to make that invitation.

When I go on a first date or have a cold approach encounter where the logistics dictate that sex has to occur at her place or a hotel, I'm aggressive physically to see if I can motivate her to take me to her place. It works a good percentage of the time, others you never see her again, sometimes she invites you to her place on the second date. These are much better odds than not escalating a lot which in my experience almost never results in her inviting you to her place

Guys,

I'm still tindering but bumble has been gold for me during my 1st three days. I've already gotten a bang and another date at my place tonight. Bitch shields are way lower along with attention whoring. If a girl messages you then you will get the number 90% of the time.

The quality is also much better as well.

^ Currently on that iphone 4 time. No 8.0 update...so no bumble for me. Is it on android?

^^not sure

Girl just flaked on me though, oh well.

I guess no real app or even real life interaction is immune to a flake situation. Just found a cute asian girl I night gamed some months back on Tinder. She's definitely the player type so I guess she found the right app. When I was talking to her she said she was talking to like 2 dudes, (but she was texting a few others on her phone). I went with more of the FWB approach, "let's chill sometime when I'm out here in the area." Got her number but my phone situation wasn't good so I took an L.

Wouldn't be mad if we matched though...not at all.

(09-12-2015 03:55 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(09-11-2015 01:10 AM)VforVlad Wrote:  Alright, just got back from seeing the girl. She didn't flake.

Things went good. We talked a lot...she asked me a lot of questions. I found out some things along the way. She is a Jewish-Atheist-Feminist who isn't "really looking for anything serious". After a good while of talking, I decided to ramp up the touching and kissed her. I talked myself into having her drive me to her place since she lived closer by. At first she resisted saying "i'm not driving you back, I'm not your sugar mama" to which I countered, no you're not but you're a responsible adult; you're not like these 20 year olds to which she said "That's true". But I made a major mistake which cost me --- I kissed and touched her when we were about to get into the car - and she changed her mind and just said "I think I'm just gonna walk you to your car" and something about "maybe you should invest into me some more" or something. It was over but I got one more good french kiss out of it as she walked me to my car --- considering that I might not see her again.

Big mistake on getting too touchy on the way to her car, but it I felt that it was the right thing to do at that point. In hindsight I should have just held off and see how far I can go to her place without any touching/kissing. The only reason I did is because we talked enough already.

I would analyze it differently and say that the problem was not that you kissed her, it was that you didn't kiss her enough, for reasons I explained in a couple of posts in the "Going Back to Her Place" thread https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-40601.html

I've banged scores of girls at their place, and in my experience, it is rare for a girl to invite you to her place if she is in a sexually cold state. In almost every case, I got the invitation after I had made out with her quite a bit, including groping her naughty parts, to the point she was very aroused. A wet and aching pussy is what she needs to motivate her to invite a guy she barely knows to her home for a bang session.

In your case, the girl obviously liked you, but her rational mind was still running things and she shut you down because she wasn't aroused enough. Girls are dominated by their moods and she wasn't horny enough yet.

Tuth's First Date Bang Recipe and BlurredSeven's Zero Date Bang Formula both say don't sexualize prior to isolation, but they are both in the context of the girl coming to your place, which is psychologically very different. In my experience, if a girl invites you to her place, especially at night, she has the intention of fucking you, so she has to be craving sex to make that invitation.

When I go on a first date or have a cold approach encounter where the logistics dictate that sex has to occur at her place or a hotel, I'm aggressive physically to see if I can motivate her to take me to her place. It works a good percentage of the time, others you never see her again, sometimes she invites you to her place on the second date. These are much better odds than not escalating a lot which in my experience almost never results in her inviting you to her place

You're absolutely right now that i think about it in hindsight. The girl caught me off guard by being smarter/more articulate than I thought. We had some good conversations by me not even having to try to keep her entertained. That was the problem. I did touch her legs quite a bit from the get-go though---though it never occurred to go all the way up teh skirt.

I have had a 'network error' on tinder for three days now. I am wondering if my iPhone 4s is too old for the newer tinder versions.

(09-13-2015 07:13 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I have had a 'network error' on tinder for three days now. I am wondering if my iPhone 4s is too old for the newer tinder versions.

I kept getting this, but found out my ac was banned.

(09-11-2015 02:45 AM)VforVlad Wrote:  Is that real?

Yep. I was in shock when I saw it, I couldn't believe it. At first I thought it had to have been a joke profile, but I'm pretty sure it was 100% legit.

(09-13-2015 07:17 AM)Druber Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 07:13 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I have had a 'network error' on tinder for three days now. I am wondering if my iPhone 4s is too old for the newer tinder versions.

I kept getting this, but found out my ac was banned.

Do you suspect why you were banned? I have no idea why I would be banned, I don't use mass-swipe apps and I paid for Tinder+.