Post: #1

Hey guys,

So lately, I've been meeting girls for dates outside of my town. Usually a 20-30 drive. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to escalate back to a girls place without straight up inviting myself over? Or is that actually the best way? I generally date a few years younger than myself... Mid to late 20's.

Post: #2

"I need to use the washroom"
"I need to sober up a bit before driving"

Post: #3

The key is to schedule the date within walking distance of her place. Then you can use

If you can't do that, you can still deploy a "want to go back to your place and watch some TV/have some wine/<something else she's mentioned>?"

Remember that game isn't mind control, you're responding to the possibilities she's allowing herself to take part in. If she's into you and is comfortable with the idea of some foreplay/sex, she'll be OK with having you back to her place.

I've found the more direct and nonchalant I phrase it, the more comfortable she seems to be with the idea.

Post: #4

Just remember, the away team can still win, just logistics make it a tiny bit more difficult.

Post: #5

I do notels/hotels or their spot.

You shouldn't be bringing chicks you meet off the street immediately into your home; it's 2014, bitches be crazy.

Post: #6

This is my specialty.

Over the last few years I've banged dozens and dozens of women, mostly on the first or second date, and never once has the notch occurred at my place. In fact, only a couple of them have ever been to my place regardless of how many times I banged them. Why? I like my privacy, bitches be crazy, some have husbands/boyfriends necessitating security measures, I've had stalkers, and some of them I just didn't want hanging around.

So, I'm banging them at hotels or their place. Hotels aren't the subject of this thread, but sometimes they are the best option if both of you are far away from home or drunk. I did a mini datasheet on hotel game if that helps /thread-22114-...#pid404419.

I wish I could give you a script, but I can't because I don't use one. One thing I rarely do is say "Hey let's go to your place" or similar-I think that often invites resistance. In some cases, if she asks what we should do next, I've said "Well, we could go watch a movie (or TV)" without specifying where. If she's thinking about it, this gives her an opportunity to invite you. but mostly, I don't even do that. I just game her, and kino and kiss her just enough to get her horny.

Then I wait for her gambit. By this I refer to her ploy to set up a situation that will get you to her place with plausible deniability meaning for some reason other than sex.

The most common one is the "Are you ok to drive?" and its variants. She is casting herself in the role of good samaritan, helping this poor man out who is too drunk/tired to drive and might be involved in a crash on his way home. You need her help! She can offer you a place to sleep so that you can go home safely in the morning. Actually, it's a cover to get you home with her. You response to this should be a reluctant "Well...probably not" or similar with a resigned shrug. She will then tell you that you can come home with her. sometimes this is accompanied by a "no funny business" warning and sometimes not. Either way, say "Well, ok, thanks a lot I really appreciate it" in a sincere way and go from there. Once at her place, settle in a bit then make your move. You will get the bang in a very high percentage of these cases.

Another gambit used while driving- "Let's stop at a convenience store and get some beer" or similar. She doesn't really say why, but when you buy the beer she'll suggest drinking it at her house

"Do you want to watch a movie?" Yes, girls use this too for the same reason.

"I have to go home" suddenly for some reason to check on her dog, hamster, whatever. She invites you along.

Whatever the gambit is, the key is that you must play along as if it is real. No smirks, not sexual innuendos. You are the straight man in this little mini drama. She knows it, you know it, she may know or not that you know it, but you can never show that you know it. If you do, plausible deniability is destroyed and her ASD will kick in, and you'll probably end up sleeping on the couch, if you make it that far.

That said, every once in a while a woman will just outright invite you home. "Do you want to come home with me?" or Do you want to stay with me tonight?" You can't depend on this though.

Other than responding to her what can you do?

One thing you can do is try to pick her up at her house in the first place. This is best done on a second date when she trust you more. Most girls will not allow this on the first date for understandable reasons though it does happen sometimes and I seldom ask to do this on the first date because i think it might put them off. Second date though , I often suggest this. When you drop her off, hope for an invite in and if not try to weasel your way in.

A good proactive technique is what I will call the Reverse Good Samaritan. You and she have driven separate cars to a meeting spot and had some drinks and things are going well but it's getting late. You tell her you don't think she should be driving and you offer to drive her to her place and tell her she can take a cab to her car the next day. I used this technique this past week to excellent effect

I met a woman for a first date at a lounge in a city neither of us lived in. We both drove. We hit it off immediately and I suggested we go to another venue. She said she could just ride with me. We went to several more spots and it got late. She was in town on business and staying at a hotel. I told her I didn't think she should be driving especially as the cops in this city are notorious for pulling drivers over at night to check for DUI (true). I would drop her at her hotel and she could get a cab to her car in the morning. As we got close to the hotel she told me I should just stay with her rather than driving all the way back home to my town. Well, ok, thanks. Enthusiastic bang.

I will admit, however, in a small number of cases I have gone very direct. A couple of years ago I was on a second date with a chick in her town and after a lot of drinking I turned toward her at the bar and said "I want to fuck you" She responded "I want you to" and we left and went to her house.

In another case last year, I was on a first date with a girl I was really attracted to and after drinking at several places i walked he back to her car. I was rather drunk and after several minutes of kissing she sat down in the driver's sea to leave and I just decided to go for it. I leaned in and said "I want to go home with you." She looked at me shocked and said "OK' and I followed her to her house and we banged. But these were exceptions in which the sexual vibe was really high and we both were drunk. I don't think very direct will work in most cases.

This is mostly a game of subtlety; game her well and wait for an opening if she's going to give you one. I might be criticized for not being aggressive enough, but I can tell you that playing it like this has worked for me many times

Post: #7

Solid advice MrXY... rep awarded.

Post: #8

(09-21-2014 03:50 PM)BadgerHut Wrote:  The key is to schedule the date within walking distance of her place. Then you can use

If you can't do that, you can still deploy a "want to go back to your place and watch some TV/have some wine/<something else she's mentioned>?"

Remember that game isn't mind control, you're responding to the possibilities she's allowing herself to take part in. If she's into you and is comfortable with the idea of some foreplay/sex, she'll be OK with having you back to her place.

I've found the more direct and nonchalant I phrase it, the more comfortable she seems to be with the idea.

Shit, left a sentence incomplete.

"The key is to schedule the date within walking distance of her place. Then you can use" the 'can I use your bathroom' line or just walk her home real quick.

Post: #9

Props to the good advice MrXY and the other guys!

I got a similar situation coming up this week. I'm meeting a girl at her town for a nice stroll along the lake and have a drink at a bar. Of course it's not supposed to end like this.

The thing is, due to bad logistics and privacy reasons I can not take her back to my place. As I found out she lives in an apartment (I think alone). We use public transport here so the car driving tricks do not work for me. My last train back to my place is around 1am so I either have to close the deal before that or 'miss' the train.
Of course I'm putting myself into the risk that I end up taking a cab (which is freakin' expensive) if I miss the train and can't manage to invite myself over to her place. Is it worth the risk?

For your information, it is the first date after I got her number during nightgame. She seems very enthusiastic about meeting up and there are a lot signs of her being DTF:

- She texted me first just a few hours after we met.
- She told me I should let her know when I'm around her town.
- She already tried to arrange activities such as hiking even though we barely talked for an hour. (Wtf... does she wanna get fucked in the forest?!)
- In general she puts a lot of effort into interaction.

Did I come across a 'don't-fuck-it-up-game' in this case?
She's a solid 8.

In case of success, I'll definitely contribute to the 'I just had sex' thread.

RedGuard

Post: #10

Because I live in the sticks and 35-45 minutes away from major cities, roughly 90% of my game involves getting back to women's places. Not only because it is the most feasible logistically but because I really do have to drive a long ass way while inebriated.

As others have said.

"Can I use your bathroom real quick" and "I may need to sober up a little bit" are your workhorses.

I add "real quick" and "a little bit" here because it implies a time constraint and that you'll be leaving soon, which usually makes them more comfortable.

But I think the key to supercharging these lines is threaded throughout the entire date. When drinking (even 2-4 drinks) I legitimately have to use the bathroom a lot, but I ham it up a little and go more than I have to, to the point that it becomes a bit of an inside joke about me having a small bladder (maybe 2-4 times on a 3-4 hours date). Now when you drive her home and use that line it has a greater air of legitimacy and usually will elicit "oh my god again... you're like a girl" That may seem to beta-fy yourself a little, but it has never played against me.

With the drunk driving line the two seeds you plant are:

1)"I'm such a light weight, I think I'm part Asian" or "I haven't drank in weeks I've been so busy with work... I really need to build up my tolerance again"

These are said with the last or second to last drink you plan on having.

2) "Thank god I'm moving soon, the drive here is a killer"

If you live in the sticks like me you can make a joke about living with hill people and bumpkins. Women are usually good at remember biographical facts, but adding a little humor and talking about these points in more detail keeps them fresh in her mind.

What does this do? It increases the chances of, as MrXY puts it, throwing out her own gambit, "Are you sober enough to drive?" and even if she doesn't your last ditch, "Hey I'm tipsy and live far away, can I just come to your place" seems less weasily and contrived.

Bonus Options:

Ask her about her favorite Netflix/Movies and about her cooking skills specifically what she likes to late night binge / drunk snack on.

When she says Orange is the New Black or Bagel Bite filled empanadas you have two options

1) I've never seen that / I've never had those. What's all the hype about? The premise seems kind of dumb / That sounds kind of gross.

Now you've got a frame in which she has to prove her show or food to you later.

2)Nice I love that show. /Nice I love bagel bites too. That shows my weakness but I haven't seen it in forever / Those are my weakness but I haven't eaten them in forever.

Now you've got the frame of "You might be a bad influence on me." Don't try to turn me into some hot-pocket eating Netlfix zombie" or whatever.

And of course you've got a combo move now.
Her: Are you okay to drive
Me: Eh... I'm not sure... maybe not.
Her: Hah oh no, how are we going to sober you up
Me: I don't know but my drunk self is totally craving bagel bites now, do you have a delivery service.
Etc.. Etc..

I favor these last two less but throw them in for good measure.

And finally, from my experience if you are trying to get to her place you generally have to stay on the date a little longer. Most of my success in this area has come from dates that last 3-5 hours, but it nearly always happens (90% of the time) on the first or second date for me.

Post: #11

Just wanted to bump this excellent thread and thank all the previous posters for their tips.

I've been.daygaming at colleges pretty far from where I live so am trying to implement these strategies for college girls

Post: #12

Read Bang again.
Or if you haven't... read Bang.

Questions answered.

Post: #13

(09-21-2014 05:47 PM)jariel Wrote:  I do notels/hotels or their spot.

You shouldn't be bringing chicks you meet off the street immediately into your home; it's 2014, bitches be crazy.

My approach. "lets buy a bottle of wine", the old tried and true "gotta use the restroom", date logistics in her hood, go somewhere lame and leave looking for something else to do, near her place. You have to consistently put yourself in those situations to learn how to make it work.

Post: #14

It actually works the opposite of Tuth's First Date Formula. That requires you play it cool and don't escalate much at all verbally or physically, so that she will feel comfortable if she goes to your place maybe at most a makeout will happen

The Her Place Bang strategy requires that you have to get her so horny that she is consciously wanting to fuck you, otherwise she won't be motivated enough to invite a guy she barely knows to her place. You really have to get her sexual brain to take over and start running things. Taking kino pretty far and alcohol are key. Needless to say, this doesn't work well with prudish girls with low sex drive so screening is important. If my only logistical option is her place and I get a vibe from her that she not too sexual or not into me I'll bail out since I know it isn't happening.

Post: #15

(08-29-2015 04:56 PM)MrXY Wrote:  Taking kino pretty far and alcohol are key. Needless to say, this doesn't work well with prudish girls with low sex drive so screening is important. If my only logistical option is her place and I get a vibe from her that she not too sexual or not into me I'll bail out since I know it isn't happening.

Thanks man. Solid specific advice. Gave ya a +1.

I mentioned this in a few other threads but I'm a big advocate for subtle handholds early in meeting to screen out who's cool with my touch or not but I've also hooked up with girls who do NOT drink. So I guess I might not push for going back to girl's place unless she either

1) Is okay with my touch and acknowledges she drinks (or smokes)

2) Okay with EXTREME kino (massages my hand back and/or touches me first) and I just feel it's "on" even if she doesn't drink

Post: #16

(09-21-2014 05:47 PM)jariel Wrote:  I do notels/hotels or their spot.

You shouldn't be bringing chicks you meet off the street immediately into your home; it's 2014, bitches be crazy.

If you live in a building which has a doorman, it's a little better, although I have stayed in places where the doorman or guy working the gate conveniently disappears once in a while.

Post: #17

(08-29-2015 04:56 PM)MrXY Wrote:  The Her Place Bang strategy requires that you have to get her so horny that she is consciously wanting to fuck you, otherwise she won't be motivated enough to invite a guy she barely knows to her place. You really have to get her sexual brain to take over and start running things. Taking kino pretty far and alcohol are key.

This is a good point. If the chick is horny enough, she will bend over backwards to make the logistics work. Mark Manson suggests a similar strategy: if the chick is reluctant to come back to your place because of shitty logistics, you just start escalating toward sex with her in a public place (e.g., alleyway, beach, &c). Usually she will stop you, but you'll have gotten her so turned on that she'll be willing to bowl over logistical obsticals. And sometimes she won't stop you and you just fuck her wherever you happen to be. (full explanation is in the last section "Being Appropriately Inappropriate" http://postmasculine.com/how-to-get-laid...-and-clubs )

Post: #18

Good point Donkey but then this becomes a whole other conversation. What public places are good to fuck and logistical challenges to deal with.

I almost closed a girl on first date in movie theatre bathroom but she didn't follow me in BUT we started making out in front of a local community college where we were still within sight of drivers on main street. Had I just been further in the campus, I would have gotten further in HER (drum hit) as she was grabbing my dick and masturbating my finger in the theatre.

She never called or texted me back after that night

Post: #19

"I drank too much and shouldn't be driving. Can I use your couch to sober up?"

When you arrive, head for her bed.

Post: #20

I just learned on last night completely by accident and it's gold.

I met this girl at her place and it was raining outside. I took the subway to her neighborhood and the rain had died down a lot by the time I got there, though I was still wearing a rain jacket. When I got to her place I just my jacket inside before we left to go to the venue since I didn't need it anymore and didn't want to carry it around.

The short-term leave-behind.

I ill note this tactic was not necessary in this particular scenario - I was confident in getting the invite and the bang ahead of time regardless, but I still stand by it.