(09-22-2015 04:37 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  Accidentally had my Tinder Plus location set to a city further up north in Europe where I am, where I don't expect to be for just over another fortnight. Got a bunch of matches there. Reckon it wouldn't be too long a timeframe for them to lose interest?

Just don't message them until close to the time that you'll be there. I don't think it really matters how long you take to message them after you first match. Girls get so many matches that until you message them you're just lost in the crowd of the thirsty tinder hordes. I have a date tonight with a chick I matched with like 3 months ago but just messaged for the first time recently

Instagram now has direct messages, like proper ones where you don't have to send a picture with it.

It's now much easier to bypass the whole algorithm thing by just following bitches on instagram and see if they follow back then message them. Might want to wait to see if they like your photos or w.e just to make sure, check their follower/follow ratio stuff like that.

(09-22-2015 02:33 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  Instagram now has direct messages, like proper ones where you don't have to send a picture with it.

It's now much easier to bypass the whole algorithm thing by just following bitches on instagram and see if they follow back then message them. Might want to wait to see if they like your photos or w.e just to make sure, check their follower/follow ratio stuff like that.

Have you gotten a bang this way?

(09-22-2015 03:16 PM)storm Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 02:33 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  Instagram now has direct messages, like proper ones where you don't have to send a picture with it.

It's now much easier to bypass the whole algorithm thing by just following bitches on instagram and see if they follow back then message them. Might want to wait to see if they like your photos or w.e just to make sure, check their follower/follow ratio stuff like that.

Have you gotten a bang this way?

I'm curious to know this as well. I had always just assumed IG would be pretty useless for game purposes, too much thirst and attention whoring I thought. Maybe not though

Nah not yet, some numbers I didn't chase up, most i got is a couple of dates. More of a testament to my real life game and lazyness though. I know of people who get laid via IG and even twitter so it's obviously possible. If you let me play the numbers game for awhile though I have no doubt it is a possibility. This mostly works for people with good IGs though if that wasn't obvious.

Instagram is more of a young guy's game, since the vast majority of people on Instagram are 16-25 year olds. Not to mention it's extremely status-based. So unless you're in the top 10% of looks or have a lot of followers, don't even bother.

I ran instagram game for a while, it's really hard targeting random chicks. But had a super super cute one, she was skeptical at first but gave me her number. Never led to a bang though, she flaked and I realized the amount of time I put in I could have just went to the local mall and got way higher ROI. Target cute chicks with low followers for best results.

-CD

Starting to hate tinder a little bit. I haven't been heavy on this app for a few months. After the one date I had and matches going cold, I didn't put any effort into pursuing the prospects. Today while I was working I saw that I had a new match. A cute 7.5 brunette volleyball player. About 5'3 with a funny bio that makes fun of her height and best feature.

An hour or two later I fire off a lame opener and check my email. Tinder auto-renewed (forgot to cancel it) my plus subscription. I'm almost sure that I have a few matches that I haven't gotten because I don't use the app as much and because I hadn't paid the subscription right away (rarely open the app store on my iphone).

After two months (this will be the third) on plus, I've only seen a few decent matches but nothing solid. My matches were either on weeks ago...or probably deleted the app from their smartphone. I think my challenge with this app is not my look or my profile but hooking right away. A lot of these girls have no bio and using canned lines isn't my thing.

Tinder made it too easy to be honest. I finally made a Tinder profile over the fourth of July and since then I've met up with about 30 girls, made out with 25 of them and banged about half of them. I actually got sick of girls for a bit because it was so easy and literally a different girl every other night.

(09-24-2015 10:37 PM)AllStar Wrote:  Tinder made it too easy to be honest. I finally made a Tinder profile over the fourth of July and since then I've met up with about 30 girls, made out with 25 of them and banged about half of them. I actually got sick of girls for a bit because it was so easy and literally a different girl every other night.

What city are you in?
What do you look like?

(09-21-2015 09:52 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(09-21-2015 07:54 PM)Mabina Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 10:37 PM)Iso Wrote:  I got Tinder a month ago. Maybe I'm missing something, but I find Tinder to be either terribly disappointing or I am really ugly. I got Tinder Plus and have probably swiped at 500+ girls so far. All I got was like 10 matches with most of them either unmatching within a few hours or bots (when did they become a thing?). The matches I got were ugly and didn't amount to anywhere. Was Tinder always this bad or was it better a few years ago? I'm hoping that I'm not getting automatically left swiped because of my black. Apps like Tinder make you really self-conscious about issues that you don't worry about in real life.

When I went to Europe, I got around 25 matches of much better quality (granted it didn't go anywhere with most of them). 0 bots. Only 2 girls unmatched me there.

I'm black as well, it could be your location, in my hometown I get zero when I travel I get a lot more matches, don't beat yourself up over it my good man just keep swiping.

Im in DC. Sometimes I wonder if Tinder even shows my profile to girls. My match rate is embarrassingly low.

Definitely location for sure. DC is terrible for tinder imo. You should visit NYC for a weekend and try tinder there. MUCH MUCH Better.

Tinder is officially dead in my area.

It's been infected with tons of bots who have:

-3-5 pictures no bio
-You start noticing they all have simliar sayings.
-Bio says they're located in NYC - I'm on the west coast.
-They even have fake IG's and Snap names in their bio.

The actual real girls are hard to find between all of this and most are a dud - the talent is horrible.

I've been using Bumble - I only matched with one who messaged me, an SJW I did get another match but she didn't message me.

OKC is also not panning out, the only one that has been real solid is POF, Coffee Meets Bagel netted me 2 numbers last week.

Someone has to invent something new, I wish I had more fucking time to approach in person.

Continuation from: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19115...pid1090480

Alright guys, time for an update.

It's been almost 2 weeks since I've started using Tinder again. Here are my stats.

Matches: 51 (Not counting hooker bots)
Opened: 43
No reply/ few messages exchanged: 21
Conversation: 22
Numbers: 4
Dates: 0
Bangs: 0

I'm not sure what's going on with Tinder, but it's not doing it for me this time around. Girls can barely keep a conversation going. It starts with a good flow and dies off 3-5 messages in before the natural flow leads me to the number. I end up restarting after a few days and it either stays dead or she replies with a couple brief messages before it dies again. Even weirder is that 1/4 of my matches open me complimenting some feature and they still don't lead to a number.

The 4 numbers I did get all ended up being dead ends. The first number I got was from a cute 6, but after going through her pictures again I found out she had no arm. Another was from a milf which is a 6 at best which I haven't bothered with. Two were from 7s who were terrible at texting and stopped responding after I said we should hanging out.

My texting game is a mix of comfort and humor with very mild flirting to not scare the cat. I keep it light, brief, and easy to respond to. My main focus is to get her out. After I get her out and let her feel my vibe, I change my texting up and flirt more.

Unfortunately, I don't have the money to get professional photos taken but I've been told my pictures are good. I didn't use professional pictures last year so I don't think this is an important problem.

As for my openers I've been using a variety since I'm not getting a good response rate from any particular one. They range from a compliment, two truths one lie, you look like trouble, or something specific about their profile.

My personal criticism is that I am not engaging enough in my texting. I can post a few conversations by request.

Maybe I'm out of sync with the new Tinder environment. I'd be happy to show you guys my pictures through PM. I'm going to keep grinding through it and let you guys know if I discover a new tactic.

Edit:
I've also been using Tinder moments more frequently then before. Anytime I am doing or making some cool, I take a picture and throw it up. Responses have been pretty good and I've been reopened because of it.

(09-25-2015 03:25 PM)Cronus Wrote:  Continuation from: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19115...pid1090480

Alright guys, time for an update.

It's been almost 2 weeks since I've started using Tinder again. Here are my stats.

Matches: 51 (Not counting hooker bots)
Opened: 43
No reply/ few messages exchanged: 21
Conversation: 22
Numbers: 4
Dates: 0
Bangs: 0

I'm not sure what's going on with Tinder, but it's not doing it for me this time around. Girls can barely keep a conversation going. It starts with a good flow and dies off 3-5 messages in before the natural flow leads me to the number. I end up restarting after a few days and it either stays dead or she replies with a couple brief messages before it dies again. Even weirder is that 1/4 of my matches open me complimenting some feature and they still don't lead to a number.

The 4 numbers I did get all ended up being dead ends. The first number I got was from a cute 6, but after going through her pictures again I found out she had no arm. Another was from a milf which is a 6 at best which I haven't bothered with. Two were from 7s who were terrible at texting and stopped responding after I said we should hanging out.

My texting game is a mix of comfort and humor with very mild flirting to not scare the cat. I keep it light, brief, and easy to respond to. My main focus is to get her out. After I get her out and let her feel my vibe, I change my texting up and flirt more.

Unfortunately, I don't have the money to get professional photos taken but I've been told my pictures are good. I didn't use professional pictures last year so I don't think this is an important problem.

As for my openers I've been using a variety since I'm not getting a good response rate from any particular one. They range from a compliment, two truths one lie, you look like trouble, or something specific about their profile.

My personal criticism is that I am not engaging enough in my texting. I can post a few conversations by request.

Maybe I'm out of sync with the new Tinder environment. I'd be happy to show you guys my pictures through PM. I'm going to keep grinding through it and let you guys know if I discover a new tactic.

Post some of the convos. Can be difficult to keep it going on there so I try to go for the digits asap.

I don't want to spam the whole page with pictures so here are the links.

Girl 1:
This is generally my style. Keep it brief, interesting, and go for the number.
http://imgur.com/k55reHq
http://imgur.com/PohP4G8

Girl 2:
http://imgur.com/RCtRRhQ
http://imgur.com/c4ycrc5

Girl 3:
Might have trolled this one too hard.
http://imgur.com/AY4HTFi
http://imgur.com/SsHMSTn

Girl 4:
This one I tried a new style of texting. Not what I regularly do with having long messages. Too drawn out.
http://imgur.com/uFg1UMp
http://imgur.com/05VpXeF
http://imgur.com/nAPqZch
http://imgur.com/2hk2VnB
http://imgur.com/adYG5kN

Any advice is appreciated.

Edit: Some of the things I asked on here are based on her profile. Like for girl 2 there was some sarcastic joke about ice cream.

Cronus, my approach is more direct

It involves either making a check list of things I like about their bio or pics (things their doing, sports, activities, etc)

or I'll make some joke about the distance or location. It makes more of a connection than the standards 2 truths and a lie (every girl at this point has heard about that from some other dude)

Granted yes, it does work.

I try and make a connection as fast as I can a majority is qualifying them, especially with traveling, work, or education - then I "compliment" them by saying they "seem chill/genuine, let's do a meet and greet over a drink, see how we vibe, you in ?"

I always get numbers this way fast, I never tell them they're cute, or anything about their physical appearance.

Tinder has been going downhill since the beginning of this year.

Hinge just revealed some interesting stats on what are the best openers

http://nextshark.com/hinge-pickup-lines/

(09-25-2015 04:16 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Cronus, my approach is more direct

It involves either making a check list of things I like about their bio or pics (things their doing, sports, activities, etc)

or I'll make some joke about the distance or location. It makes more of a connection than the standards 2 truths and a lie (every girl at this point has heard about that from some other dude)

Granted yes, it does work.

I try and make a connection as fast as I can a majority is qualifying them, especially with traveling, work, or education - then I "compliment" them by saying they "seem chill/genuine, let's do a meet and greet over a drink, see how we vibe, you in ?"

I always get numbers this way fast, I never tell them they're cute, or anything about their physical appearance.

Tinder has been going downhill since the beginning of this year.

Good strategy. I'm going to start being more direct with my future matches. Online game is in constant flux. Being able to adapt is a skill of its own.

I would love to join the hate, but I really can not. Was winning on Tinder in Mexico for the amount of time I put in, and am winning here back in the states. My pics are pretty good though now and i've been killing it with the two truths one lie game. Actually have a tinder date come pick me up from the library in a few minutes for drinks.

-CD

Spoke too soon, she fucking flaked guys haha.

Third post the charm. So the flaker mentioned above text me the last night to come out to bar with her friend. Went there and she profusely apologized about flaking the night before. Her friend was actually on a tinder date herself, and the shit was going TERRIBLE haha, actually told my date she likes me more than her date.

Long story short, turned the sarcastic ass hole game to level 9000 like american girls like. She's all over me and at the end of the night says "You're coming back to my place, but no funny business" Needless to say there was funny business.

Guys how do you use pre-selection to make it raise your value instead of appearing like a try-hard/douche?

I have a photo with a solid 8 in a bikini in my arms on the beach. I appear relaxed, and she looks happy as can be. Another photo is me in a suit with two 8's on either side, my arms around their waists, at an event.

I haven't used them yet as I'm getting a couple of other professional shots to go along with them.

Finally met up with Tinder au pair last night after communication for about 2 weeks. Caucasian 6 from Canada with a crazy backstory. Dated a muslim for 2 years and claimed she had abstained from sex because of it among other things. Also believed 911 was a conspiracy plotted by the US government (found out all these nuggets after meeting). Was very annoying and flaky via text. Because of her behavior, I ensured to make the logistics highly favorable (public park within 5 minutes of where I live/no money spent). Tried to pick her up to control the logistics further but she declined.

Spent about an hour and change at the park. She was receptive, laughing with good body language. Wanted to try a more reserved strategy for some stupid reason. Didn't want to escalate too quickly and scare the cat. I normally go for the kiss/makeout by an hour into the meet (sometimes less). She doesn't hesitate when I touch and I linger with my arm around her at one point while we're sitting on a bench (this is where I needed to go in for the kill). We then plan to head over to a venue for a drink. She still refuses to get into my car and says she'll follow me to the venue in her ride. I get in my car and see her drive away down the road. Oof. She probably got bored and I needed to escalate faster.

Imagine buying drinks or meeting up midway with a girl and she pulled this shit? Meet up with enough girls and these online nut jobs and you see it all.

(09-24-2015 11:40 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:37 PM)AllStar Wrote:  Tinder made it too easy to be honest. I finally made a Tinder profile over the fourth of July and since then I've met up with about 30 girls, made out with 25 of them and banged about half of them. I actually got sick of girls for a bit because it was so easy and literally a different girl every other night.

What city are you in?
What do you look like?

I'm in a college town in the Midwest. A bigger city is also about an hour and fifteen minutes away. Girls tell me I'm good looking, and I also have a nice car and nice job, but about half of them don't even know that. Being in great shape also matters. Plus I'm only 5'7" for those of you who say height matters - 90% of the time it does not. Today I had a repeat Tinder bang and yesterday I had two new Tinder bangs. The first one drove over an hour to meet me and she was a solid 7. It's more about the chase for me as I get bored once I know I can have them. It really comes down to if your good looking and can throw some game at them once they meet you they'll drop the panties fairly easily. Tinder has literally changed my life as I went from around one date a week to about 5 dates a week.

Just got a number off the app in four messages. Got her over to text, shoot for confirmation pics after the reintroductory process and she goes cold...plz not be catfish.