(04-18-2018 01:29 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: (04-18-2018 07:18 AM)TravelerKai Wrote: (04-17-2018 05:09 PM)Enigma Wrote: I've seen a lot of chatter claiming that when the tunnel collapsed in NK in late 2017, killing 200 workers, it was actually the US remotely detonating one of NK's nuke projects.
I haven't seen any definitive evidence, but that does make sense given the quick 180 from Kim.
If that is true, that is raw as fuck.
Would not surprise me. The North Koreans won't admit it, because that would make them lose face. Besides - it's not as if it's so incredibly difficult to subvert people in North Korea. There are likely countless agents milling around North Korea financed by the South, the US and by China. When you have people as poor as that, then it's comically easy. Also - there are plenty of routes to smuggle people off the country.
I doubt that North Korea is much of a threat to anyone. China is utterly unconcerned about them and that means that they know more about the state of their program than Kim Jong funny-hair. Any announcement of theirs and the other side is the usual neocon rattling to get an increase in military funding.
It was rumored they tested out the Thor Weapon on the nuke site, aka Rods From God. They drop Tungsten Rods on a target from space, and they hit with the devastation of a meteor strike, without the radiation from a nuclear bomb.
The North Koreans were ready to shelve their nuclear program the next day....
https://taskandpurpose.com/kinetic-bomba...-weaponry/
In the 1950s, Jerry Pournelle imagined the military equivalent of the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Toiling away as a Boeing operations researcher in the afterglow of the Manhattan Project and the Soviet Union’s First Lightning nuclear test in 1949, the U.S. Army veteran envisioned a weapons system armed not with munitions and other chemical explosives, but massive rods forged from heavy metals dropped from sub-orbital heights.
Those “tungsten thunderbolts,” as the New York Times called them, would impact enemy strongholds below with the devastating velocity of a dino-exterminating impact, obliterating highly fortified targets — like, say, Iranian centrifuges or North Korean bunkers — without the mess of nuclear fallout.
Pournelle, whose years of experience in aerospace would fuel a career as a journalist and military science fiction writer, named his superweapon “Project Thor.” Others just called it “Rods From God.” In reality, weapons researchers refer to it as a “kinetic energy projectile”: a super-dense, super-fast projectile that, operating free of complex systems and volatile chemicals, destroys everything in its path.
And gravity hasn’t always been necessary. For decades, militaries have used ultra-dense “kinetic energy penetrators,” also known as KEPs, specially designed shells often wrapped in an outer shell (a “sabot”) and fired at high velocity rather than dropped from the sky, to defeat defense armor. That’s the fundamental logic underpinning the U.S. Navy’s highly touted electromagnetic railgun, which can blast a 25-pound “hypervelocity projectile” with 32-megajoule muzzle energy through seven steel plates and obliterate whatever that armor is supposed to protect.
Whether dropped from the sky or fired from a cannon, the principle behind these weapons is the same: hitting the enemy with something very hard and very dense, moving very fast. And the kinetic energy projectile may become a staple of modern warfare sooner than you might think.
“The classic way of delivering hurt against a target has been to pack a lot of chemical explosive into a container of some kind, a barrel or a cannonball or steel bomb,” Weingart told Task & Purpose in a phone interview. “The violence comes from the chemical explosive inside that bomb sending off a blast wave, followed by the fragments of the bomb case. But the difference with kinetic energy projectiles is that the warhead arrives at the target moving very, very fast — the energy is there to propel those fragments without the use of a chemical explosive to accelerate them. The more mass, the more violence.”
The concept of the hypersonic impact that defined Project Thor and its devastating potential hasn’t been lost on defense officials. Military researchers are continuing to explore battlefield applications that “take advantage of high terminal speeds to deliver much more energy onto a target than the chemical explosives they carry would deliver alone,” as Army Maj. Gen. William Hix put it at the Booz Allen Hamilton Direct Energy Summit in March.
“Think of it as a big shotgun shell,” Hix told the assembled crowd. “Not much can survive it. If you’re in a main battle tank, if you’re a crew member, you might survive but the vehicle will be non-mission capable, and everything below that level of protection will be dead. That’s what I am talking about.”