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DamienCasanova · 2016-06-17 00:11:00 · #951
(06-16-2016 11:34 PM)911 Wrote:  
(06-16-2016 02:32 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  



"The lead singer from the Grateful Dead. Completely unable to let go of their dogmas. The boomer generation truly fucked up the world."

I like the Grateful Dead—much like my conservative counterparts, Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson. It’s odd to see Bob Weir speak openly about politics, since the Grateful Dead were notoriously reticent for most of their careers: they rarely spoke on stage, unlike political singers such as Bono. But a cursory overview of Bob Weir’s situation is revealing:

1.) Many fans of the Grateful Dead don’t take his current performances seriously. As far as many Deadheads are concerned, the band ended when Jerry Garcia died in 1995. Many of these fans have stopped going to see the remaining members in concert. Other fans of the band will even mock the remaining members for their attempts to continue playing. No doubt this is frustrating for him.

2.) Bob Weir’s solo career, since Jerry Garcia’s death, has been largely unsuccessful. He has released one album in the last twenty years, Evening Moods, which most of his fans were ambivalent towards. Again, must be frustrating.

3.) He has battled a pain killer addiction over the last few years.

In short…I think that SJW behavior is almost always linked to feelings of personal and/or professional frustration. Think of Lady Gaga, who mocked feminism when she was on top; but then, when her albums started tanking, she began touting SJW platforms in her music.

Being a long-time fan of the band, I was kind of bummed to see this video. I always knew they leaned to the left, but I preferred when they weren’t vocal about it.



Weir is a Bohemian Grove regular.

He and other Grateful Dead members and acolytes are connected with the deep state and the highest echelons of the establishment, while projecting the image of being the polar opposite. Exactly like Gloria Steinem, who was the most important operative in pushing feminism. Steinem posed as a maverick anti-establishment activist but was in fact a CIA-funded demoralization agent whose role was to culturally degrade and socially engineer a vulnerable class of society, women, pitting them against men and breaking down the family foundation.

The Grateful Dead targeted the youth, setting up a breakaway culture that pits boomers against their parents and degrades conservative values. The Dead dumbed down their fans by actively promoting the most destructive drugs (LSD). Their associates manufactured LSD on an industrial scale, which the band promoted and distributed during their tours. And despite producing and distributing literally millions of doses, they only got marginally prosecuted. Many of their contemporaries got locked away for years for far smaller drug offenses.

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/manufacturin...jan-irvin/


When I get a bit of time, I will start a thread focusing on the use of music to disrupt and socially engineer Baby Boomers. This might have been the most radical and successful social engineering project in modern history. It has completely changed Western culture, turning it on its head and nearly marginalizing Christianity in many western countries in the span of a decade.
Popcorn5

Can't wait for that!
Walker · 2016-06-17 00:40:00 · #952
(06-16-2016 10:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Do you seriously think the extent of the future troubles will be having to put up with a few more depressing minority-on-minority shootings?

Why shouldn't I believe that? Why should I believe that muslim states, or small cells that they send abroad, will ever get their act together well enough to launch an organized campaign against the west that can level cities and set up death camps? How will they ever overcome a western military, or even a few suspicious locals with guns backed by a mayor who doesn't want them present in his city?

All they've done so far is kill 10-100 people at a time, a few times, always in micro-regions of cities where they've been allowed to settle and build up for years. I say that's the best they can do, convince me otherwise.
Leonard D Neubache · 2016-06-17 00:57:00 · #953
(06-17-2016 12:40 AM)Walker Wrote:  Why shouldn't I believe that? Why should I believe that muslim states, or small cells that they send abroad, will ever get their act together well enough to launch an organized campaign against the west that can level cities and set up death camps? How will they ever overcome a western military, or even a few suspicious locals with guns backed by a mayor who doesn't want them present in his city?

All they've done so far is kill 10-100 people at a time, a few times, always in micro-regions of cities where they've been allowed to settle and build up for years. I say that's the best they can do, convince me otherwise.

The minority violence in the US and the EU is the problem-solution mechanic for the globalist elite to justify the creation of a soviet style gulag state.

How are you going to tell me that you don't see this?

Islam is a minor day to day threat. The real peril comes from the governments of the world that are putting them in place to cause the destruction they will use to justify the criminalisation of all freedom.
Paracelsus · 2016-06-17 00:57:00 · #954
(06-17-2016 12:40 AM)Walker Wrote:  All they've done so far is kill 10-100 people at a time, a few times, always in micro-regions of cities where they've been allowed to settle and build up for years. I say that's the best they can do, convince me otherwise.

There's this little thread in the Politics/War forum called "Migrant Invasion of Europe." I'd recommend starting at the beginning.
Dr. Howard · 2016-06-17 07:37:00 · #955
Andy Holt. TN State Representative and shitlord has a great response to Orlando.

Holt, was already pissed off about the shootings in Chattanooga last year. (American muslim shot up army and navy offices...where staff can't carry guns) was even more agitated at Orlando. His response was "American's need to arm themselves". To make a strong statement about it he announced that he's giving away 2 AR-15s and will pay for handgun carry permits for the first 5 people that call his office.

Predictably, SJWs have been calling him with death threats.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016...ar-15s-re/

“If I beat somebody to death with a hammer, that’s just a hammer,” Mr. Holt said. “But if I was to take and wrap it up in electrical tape and make it black I guess that would make it an assault hammer.” - confirmed shitlord.
Lucario · 2016-06-17 08:34:00 · #956


C-Note · 2016-06-17 08:54:00 · #957
(06-16-2016 07:44 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  
(06-16-2016 07:30 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  The Anonymous Conservative isn't fucking around in this article.

The worst mass shooting incident in history is the only one where the first gay guy to escape barred the back door and then stood there holding it shut while listening to everyone else trapped inside beat on it as they were desperately trying to get out.

This is the first mass shooter incident where the only way out was past the shooter, who was mowing people down left and right. That is why there were 50 dead.

Everyone needs to blame that little gay Mexican as much as the gunman, and point out his complicity is as great as the shooter’s, and far more than the gun’s complicity. I’d call for a ban on little gay cowards who are out for themselves, before we ban any guns, and point out that it would probably have saved more lives in this case.

That is an amygdala hijack which will make any leftist thus confronted not want to talk about it anymore. Either they need to defend a gay guy whose textbook selfish rabbit behavior was wholly indefensible, or they need to acknowledge his behavior, which itself is hijacking to them, because they know they would do the exact same thing. That subtle sense that you are calling attention to the leftist’s innate cowardice is guaranteed to be immensely triggering, and produce an immediate retreat.

It isn’t as satisfying as full on K-selection, but until the Apocalypse starts, it would be enough.

When it was mentioned earlier in the thread, I had just put it off as nonsense. Like some stupid witness horseshit, or something people would say if they were having trouble opening a door.
Someone actually held the door closed, trapping people inside.
That's some serious fucked up shit. Dude needs to be arrested and put on trial immediately! That's the kind of shit that needs to be made an example of, for the good of society.

It was mentioned earlier in this thread, but this guy was outside on a fenced-in patio. So, he thought he and the others with him had nowhere else to go, so that's why they barred the door. Later, they found a way through the fence.
RexImperator · 2016-06-17 11:30:00 · #958
Quote:FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. » The psychologist who administered the test that established Orlando killer Omar Mateen as mentally fit to carry concealed weapons as a private security guard did the same for another South Florida killer who worked for the same company.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaking-n...er-killer/
RexImperator · 2016-06-17 11:39:00 · #959
What I suspect the Democrat push to ban firearms sales to those on a "watch list" is probably really about:

Quote:White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/white-ameri...es/211608/
Gimlet · 2016-06-17 12:20:00 · #960
Why couldn't they climb the fence? Prison style razor wire at the top?
seniol · 2016-06-17 12:30:00 · #961
So a democrat gay muslim kills 50 gays.

Who is the guilty one in the eyes of the leftists?

Of course the cis het straight white republican men...

WTF
CH-Toronto · 2016-06-17 12:52:00 · #962
In the future - we'll see Islam like Nazis.

Replace Islam Extremist with Naxi Extremist. People would say there is little difference between a Nazi extremist and a "moderate" Nazi.
AFS · 2016-06-17 13:00:00 · #963
(06-17-2016 12:52 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  In the future - we'll see Islam like Nazis.

Replace Islam Extremist with Naxi Extremist. People would say there is little difference between a Nazi extremist and a "regular" Nazi.

YES. I've used this argument before, but sparingly because Godwin's Law has gone out of control, with everybody calling everybody else hitler.

There is no such thing as a "moderate muslim" like there is no such thing as a "moderate nazi." If you identity with nazism after everything that happened with the holocaust, your views are suspect regardless of any other factors.

The same with Islam: no one is forcing them to be Muslim (at least in the west). People left Christianity after the priest abuse scandal, and that's nothing compared to what Muslims do around the world everyday. Why the hell would anyone stick with Islam after all the terror and bloodshed its caused, unless you agree or excuse these evil acts on some level?

If I found out Roosh was behind 9/11, I'd be deleting this forum's cookies and bookmarks faster than you can say "alluh akbar!"
Dr. Howard · 2016-06-17 13:10:00 · #964
(06-17-2016 12:20 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  Why couldn't they climb the fence? Prison style razor wire at the top?

Because it was a gay nightclub.

That is my same answer to "why didn't anyone rush the gunman" and "how could one gunman rack up 100 casualties"

Its the same impact as the gunman going and shooting up a bunch of 12 year old girls at a one direction concert. Total panic. 3 hours of this:

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Simeon_Strangelight · 2016-06-17 13:11:00 · #965
(06-17-2016 01:00 PM)AFS Wrote:  
(06-17-2016 12:52 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  In the future - we'll see Islam like Nazis.

Replace Islam Extremist with Naxi Extremist. People would say there is little difference between a Nazi extremist and a "regular" Nazi.

YES. I've used this argument before, but sparingly because Godwin's Law has gone out of control, with everybody calling everybody else hitler.

There is no such thing as a "moderate muslim" like there is no such thing as a "moderate nazi." If you identity with nazism after everything that happened with the holocaust, your views are suspect regardless of any other factors.

The same with Islam: no one is forcing them to be Muslim (at least in the west). People left Christianity after the priest abuse scandal, and that's nothing compared to what Muslims do around the world everyday. Why the hell would anyone stick with Islam after all the terror and bloodshed its caused, unless you agree or excuse these evil acts on some level?

If I found out Roosh was behind 9/11, I'd be deleting this forum's cookies and bookmarks faster than you can say "alluh akbar!"

It is not so easy to distance yourself from an ideology that is combined with a religion. It took decades to detach Christian Westerners from the religion of Christianity. And Christianity is by far more postive than Islam.

Also Nazism had some redeeming qualities despite their mindless push towards "race purity" and thus genocidal tendencies. Not only did they accuse too many ordinary Jews of the crimes of their top elite, but they also wished to exterminate 75% of Poles, Ukrainians and Russians. Great idea - killing off the now hottest women in the world.

But Islam is such a motherload of bad ideas that we think that it should be easy to detach yourself from it. However it is more difficult, because Islam has many traps set up against leaving Islam - social ostracism, death penalty, honor killings, tax increases, social and financial shunning etc. Leaving Islam is very difficult for Muslims - even the ones in the West. Ex-Muslims call the process staying in the closet and coming out. It is that difficult for them! Also after some time many feel that they have invested so much time and effort in studying those texts, defending the lore and now they find out that those 10 years and countless hours of studying was all bullshit! And this is how the smarter ones feel - never mind the dumber ones.

Trust me - based on the accounts of Ex-Muslims I can tell you that it is nowhere close as leaving Christianity. I left my Catholic faith not because of some negative experiences. I was even an altar boy and most priests were masculine no-nonsense men who were also quite charismatic. There was no feminism in the church back then and they were actually the best that you could imagine that priests could be.

But their lore did not appeal to me since I rather became a mystic and some sort of wisdom seeker. And even then was it somewhat of a step to leave the faith of my birth - me gifted with relatively high intelligence and reasoning power.

Religion is insidious because the young get indoctrinated in it so young. That is why reforms are incredibly difficult and take generations. Even if those ideologies are bad by default.

P.S. I might add that many younglings in the West get indoctrinated in something else instead of religion - cultural marxism, feminism and the full belief in the media narrative. It seems as if most humans need to believe in something so they start believing in that and this is even worse than Christian fundamentalism.
Samseau · 2016-06-17 14:31:00 · #966
(06-17-2016 12:52 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  In the future - we'll see Islam like Nazis.

Replace Islam Extremist with Naxi Extremist. People would say there is little difference between a Nazi extremist and a "moderate" Nazi.

There was never much of a difference, in principle, between Fascism and Muslims. That's why they were allies.

[Image: nazi-islam-03.jpg?w=450&h=302]

http://www.friesian.com/afghan.htm#fascism
kaotic · 2016-06-17 15:56:00 · #967
The above photo did happen, the caption is false, and is Jewish propaganda.

This has floated around my FB from time to time and I don't trust anything Netanyahu says.

Quote:Netanyahu uttered a half-truth when he referred to Hitler’s supposed desire to expel, rather than murder, the Jews. That had indeed been the policy of the German government at least until 1938. Hitler’s reply to Al-Husseini on November 28, however, confirmed that this policy was already a thing of the past before that meeting.

A great deal of evidence indicates that the decision to murder all the Jews of Europe had been taken sometime during the prior six months. The implementation of the policy, indeed, had begun immediately after the invasion of the USSR on June 22, when Einsatzgruppen squads began rounding up and shooting Jews by the thousands as troops advanced into the USSR. On July 31, Reinhard Heydrich of the SS had received a directive to prepare “the total solution of the Jewish question,” The construction of death camps in Poland had already begun, and Heydrich had already sent out invitations for the Wansee Conference, the meeting of high German officials from all involved ministries, that discussed the implementation of the “Final Solution” when it convened in January. Hitler’s reply to Husseini reflects all these decisions and measures.

http://time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/
Simeon_Strangelight · 2016-06-17 16:00:00 · #968
Wow - turns out that Omar's ex texted him during his rampage:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/06/...y-killers/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/16/us/orl...index.html

Quote:The Orlando shooter and his wife exchanged text messages during the Pulse nightclub rampage, a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation told CNN.

Around 4 a.m. on June 12, about two hours after he started the attack and while holed up in a bathroom, Omar Mateen texted his wife, Noor Salman, asking if she’d seen the news, the official said.

At one point, she responded with a text saying that she loved him. Salman also tried calling her husband several times during the standoff, a second law enforcement official said.

The timing of her calls came after reports of the attack had emerged, and apparently after she realized her husband might be responsible. He didn’t answer, the official said.

So during the attack he texts his wife whether she had seen the news.

She responds by affirming her love for him.

Women indeed love killers. Also she knew about the attacks. She must be one of those moderate Muslims.

Heartiste also has funny take on it:

Quote:LOL

Noor: I love you Omaaaar!! ❤️?

Omar: *crickets* *reloads*

Skittles Man, you may have been bested in the aloof and indifferent alpha male jerkboy sweepstakes. Having a girl lovingly swoon for you while you’re mowing down fifty gays is the kind of hold over a woman that few men achieve.

Who doubts that Omar would have drowned in marriage proposals from prime fertility cuties if he had survived to see time in the slammer? Anyone? You sir, in the back? No? Ok then.

REVOKE THE WOMEN’S VOTE

Yeah - he is right on that one. He overdoes it sometimes with his race infatuation (most racial problems can be solved much faster with stable families and support of k-selection, good food & water etc.), but Heartiste is full on in this area.

Also - women should indeed not vote. Their decision making capability as a whole is deplorable and instinct driven - but this time their instincts are leading us straight to the stone age.
2Wycked · 2016-06-17 16:37:00 · #969
^What is there to agree with?

How the Hell is a guy whose identity was so weak he decided to kill people "winning" the sweepstakes of indifference? A guy is now alpha because his wife texted him while he was committing mass murder?

I have no idea how voting rights play into this scenario, but damn the world if the manosphere can't find a way to fit this shooting into their twisted worldview.
Simeon_Strangelight · 2016-06-17 17:01:00 · #970
(06-17-2016 04:37 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  ^What is there to agree with?

How the Hell is a guy whose identity was so weak he decided to kill people "winning" the sweepstakes of indifference? A guy is now alpha because his wife texted him while he was committing mass murder?

I have no idea how voting rights play into this scenario, but damn the world if the manosphere can't find a way to fit this shooting into their twisted worldview.

It does not matter whether he was a wimp most of his life. The moment he became a serial killer, then he was an Alpha to women.

Eliott Rodger would have been a ladies man if had survived his rampage.

Women are like that - Alpha is a very versatile term. You don't become the fullblown Alpha with massive Game and inner convictions over night, but of course can you become a lot more attractive by:

+ being a movie star
+ being a rock star
+ being famous in any cool form
+ becoming a killer
+ a serial killer
+ a dictator

Essentially in all those cases you can still be the wimpy inner Beta and your wives will get bored of you, but your market value rises tremendously in the female attraction spectrum - and Heartiste was right on that front. Though of course I disagree - Skittles guy had way more pussy and frame control than this bloke.
RexImperator · 2016-06-17 17:32:00 · #971
It wild be great if all the texts were released and CH did a post on "Jihad Game".
Lizard King · 2016-06-17 18:52:00 · #972
(06-17-2016 02:31 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-17-2016 12:52 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  In the future - we'll see Islam like Nazis.

Replace Islam Extremist with Naxi Extremist. People would say there is little difference between a Nazi extremist and a "moderate" Nazi.

There was never much of a difference, in principle, between Fascism and Muslims. That's why they were allies.

[Image: nazi-islam-03.jpg?w=450&h=302]

http://www.friesian.com/afghan.htm#fascism

Sorry, but that is historically inaccurate. They were allies because they both opposed the British Empire. Ghandi(not a Muslim or in any way fascist) also allied with Hitler, to oppose British occupation.

WW2 being a direct consequence of WW1, and WW1 being a consequence of British global hegemony(among other things), which was threatened by German unification and the pre-WW1 British-German naval arms race.

While Hitler was getting friendly with the Mufti of British occupied Palestine, he was also actively encouraging the dispersal of German Jews to Palestine, which would be negative(and eventually fatal) to the Muslims of Palestine(Zionism). Remember that Palestine was Ottoman territory prior to WW1. Sykes-Picot also relevant.

Not saying Islam isn't slightly fascist in its manifestation.
Sherman · 2016-06-17 20:41:00 · #973
This situation reminds me of the cartoon where granny brings home a new playmate for Tweety Bird. The playmate is Sylvester the Cat. While granny is introducing him to Tweety Bird, Sylvester is licking his chops. Granny then leaves to go shopping and tells them to play nice together. The gays were the Dematurds favorite pet, but then granny brings home a third world Muslim still living in the Middle Ages who thinks it's normal to kill gays. Granny Hillary tells them to play nice together. All of a sudden the gays realize Granny Hillary is totally bat fucking crazy. The leftards have their new pets. The old style cartoons were completely red pill and taught you everything you need to know about life.

   
Clockwerk · 2016-06-17 21:28:00 · #974
Who cares? It's funny.

(06-17-2016 04:37 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  ^What is there to agree with?

How the Hell is a guy whose identity was so weak he decided to kill people "winning" the sweepstakes of indifference? A guy is now alpha because his wife texted him while he was committing mass murder?
Leonard D Neubache · 2016-06-17 22:23:00 · #975
(06-17-2016 11:30 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  
Quote:FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. » The psychologist who administered the test that established Orlando killer Omar Mateen as mentally fit to carry concealed weapons as a private security guard did the same for another South Florida killer who worked for the same company.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaking-n...er-killer/

These tests are usually highly standardised and rely utterly on the prospective lunatic to either be honest or retarded for the administrator to pick them out as fruit-bats.

A few years ago I had to do a similar test. It was all tick-and-flick.
"Have you ever attempted self harm?"
No
"Have you ever had thoughts you felt you couldn't control."
No
"Do you ever fantasise about killing yourself?"
No

This is an actual example to the best of my memory. They didn't even toss in opposite questions to make the applicant think about the question. I could have just sat there and said "nononononononononono".

The doctor was only too happy not to dig. It wasn't in the script and the faster he was finished the higher his pay scale per hour became. Besides, he knew that if I was an actual threat to society then I'd be smart enough to keep my cool.

These tests are done to appease insurance companies and as a protection against lawsuits. It gives the company a way to say "we did our best to keep out the kooks".
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