(06-15-2016 09:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Someone should make a good book in a few years outlining all the US/NATO failures in foreign policy to control Pakistan.

Good post TK.

Steve Coll's Ghost Wars covers the failures of US policies from the start of the Soviet-Afghan war(late 1970s) to 9/11.


Some other good book recommendations on the subject here https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50375.html

The problem with Cernovich's theory is that he focuses on the 202 rounds fired and then claims that because this would imply an unrealistic accuracy on the part of the loan gunman, ergo there must have been another shooter. Except, the existence of a second shooter doesn't resolve his claim about the unfeasiblility of shooting 102 people with 202 rounds - unless the mystery gunman had OCD and very carefully tidied up after himself, collecting and disposing of his shell casings.

Anyone watch Israel's Netanyahu's response to the Orlando's shooting ?






What do you guys think ?

About Mike Cernovich saying there were too few shots fired in the official story: maybe, but I don't necessarily believe it. A bullet in a situation like that could easily hit/pass through 2 or 3 people. The shooter apparently was also able to take his sweet time. It seems hard to miss in that situation, even for someone who's not an expert shot.


But now for a different aspect of this situation. I've been watching social media since this started. While I don't have many very liberal friends (if any) I do keep seeing articles posted from left-wing sources, even if it's usually just a right-wing page posting it to show how absurd it is.

The sheer mindless hatred displayed by liberals in the comments is insane. The first thing liberals thought to do was spew venom at whites, Christians, and 2A supporters, and blame them for the attack, even though they were probably the very people who tried to warn them about this sort of thing. Reminds me a bit of that scene from the Two Towers.

Gun sales among gays and lesbians surge after the Orlando shooting.

(06-15-2016 05:54 PM)Canopus Wrote:  Gun sales among gays and lesbians surge after the Orlando shooting.

I got a lesbo that works for me.

She wanted to borrow the mossberg mariner from my boat.

Due to backwards Hawaii gun laws I can't do that.

Aloha!

Kona what types of guns do you keep on your boats and how do you keep them from getting jacked up with salty moisture?

Sorry for derail.

(06-15-2016 06:21 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Kona what types of guns do you keep on your boats and how do you keep them from getting jacked up with salty moisture?

Sorry for derail.

What kind of question is that ? Coconut Oil and Pineapple Juice duh !

(06-15-2016 06:21 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Kona what types of guns do you keep on your boats and how do you keep them from getting jacked up with salty moisture?

Sorry for derail.

I'm loyal to the Mossberg 500. That's what I trained with the most in the navy. The anticorrosive coating seems to hold up. I have had one for almost ten years.

I also have the line launcher models with the orange stocks. I engineered a harpoon type projectile that could sink a boat easily.

The only real threats I ever come across are either sharks, or people that go out on boats to cook meth. The Mossberg mariner is great for keeping the tweakers away the few times I've had to because they can see it.

I had a camouflage benelli shotgun that had the same coating on it. I realized it was stupid to have as a deterrent since it was harder to see, my mistake.

Shotguns stay on the boats but I usually also bring a glock 35 with me. If the state stops my workers, and a handgun is on the boat that's registered to me, and I'm not there, we all go to jail.

Aloha!

(06-15-2016 05:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Anyone watch Israel's Netanyahu's response to the Orlando's shooting ?






What do you guys think ?

Noble rhetoric, but he's an opportunist like all the rest of them. He has his own agenda, obviously, which comes down to:

1. Give my country everything it wants.
2. Don't question me.
3. Be my private military and attack all my enemies.

If Mr. Netanyahu cared so much about Islamist violence, he can start with telephoning his intelligence chiefs and have them:

1. Stop carrying out airstrikes in in Syria to help Jabhat An-Nusra, and Islamist rebel/terror group.

2. Stop providing aid and sanctuary to Islamist rebels.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/unc...-al-nusra/

Israel has been playing this game for a long time, going back to the 1980s with their support of the Muslim Brotherhood in the early 1980s to overthrow Asad the Elder.

How does a mass murder equal an alleged rape?

(06-15-2016 05:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Anyone watch Israel's Netanyahu's response to the Orlando's shooting ?






What do you guys think ?

Bibi is a dangerous man. I bet he's personally strangled people with those hands.

Omar Mateen Appeared in a 2012 Documentary about the BP oil spill(36:00 time mark), he worked as a security guard for GS4

(06-15-2016 08:50 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

That article is why I have more or less given up on Western civilization. It will survive in some form, but the countries will disappear.

The only good thing is that in the next civil war/ WW3 that is coming "hypermasculine" men will be valued once again and many feminists will find out painfully that their girl moxy powers will account for nothing. In fact millions might get a stint as sex slaves.

Because as the lying scumbag Reza Azlan said - Mohammed abolished slavery. What he did not say was that it worked only on Muslims - non-Muslims were fine to be enslaved in any shape or form.

Some SJW moron did a supposedly massively shared FB meme that compared conservatives with Omar Mateen:

http://rare.us/story/a-mans-angered-resp...right-now/

   
   
   



I did my own set of rather more fitting memes:

   
   

I would mark the day that some prissy-pants leftard accused me of being "hypermasculine".

I would put everything on hold, go to the local trophy store and have a plaque engraved at the base of a rearing brass stallion sporting a terrifying erection. The plaque would read "on this day, the xxth of the x in the year of 20xx BC, Leonard D of clan Neubache was recognised for his hypermasculinity".

(06-14-2016 06:53 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

Dude, how much of a sign of testicular worth is it to say what you did?

You're advocating punishment based on collective guilt on the presumption that queers "overwhelmingly vote for...mass immigration".

I might defend your right to think that, but know that "feeling no sympathy" is merely a slippery slope from "they deserved it and asked for it"; assuming you don't already believe such. You'd dance on their graves, surely not.

Let's transpose your reaction of indifference towards other groups that we believe to be pro-mass immigration. Say this massacre happened in a women's-only safe space or a university campus. Do these demographics similarly deserve to die based on the the fact that the majority of them "vote for those who wish mass immigration on us"?

So tell me, Sean, how do those sentiments make you any better than Islamists that believe in mowing down queers for the simple crime of fucking someone of the same gender? How does it give you more of a moral footing above even ordinary Muslims who'd turn the other cheek on such butchery?

Radical Islam sees our diversity in weakness. They think nothing in pitting straight against gay, man against woman, black against white. The enemy of our enemy might not be your friend, but they are parts of us that will be hacked at until we are no more.

Nice strawman you've got there. Shame if anything were to happen to it.

Who said deserve to die? Few people deserve to die.... and the killer was one of them. Sympathy != deserving. I'm only sad they died before repentance and for the human life ending.

As far as universities, same. I'd have just as much sympathy for them being offed by a Muslim terrorist as the homos in Orlando. God's Judgment knows no borders nor specific criteria. Indeed, God has even used evil men to further His Glory. King of Assyria?

They vote statist, they hate the Christians that protected them for years, they wanted open borders, they swoon for swarthy men, this is the payment for it.

Z.F.G.

(06-14-2016 02:23 AM)kaotic Wrote:  You realize this affects us all right ? Not just those LGBT.

The fact that some crazy mother fucking Islamist Terrorist blew away that many people in a night club is another wake up call, of what we imported and created.

You should care, you should see how the current administration and media are acting.

This isn't a yawn moment. This is a very critical moment for our country and yours.

Especially with Trump's incoming presidency and Americans being sick and tired of being told lies and fed BS.

You're in this fight whether you like it or not. This isn't something you wave your hand to go away at.

As a practicing, Bible believing Christian, this world means little. If two hordes of those that hate those of us like me get into a gunfight (albeit one sided...), not my problem. ZFG. Both groups involved, Muslims and homosexuals, hate western civilization, hate the Christian morality that made the world west of the Danube, and hate pretty much all 10 Amendments of your Bill of Rights.

You want me to worry about what they think? How many of those killed, Mateen included and his family, do you think voted for McCain or Romney? Losers, both, but not Obama and his entourage. How many do you think would vote to repeal the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th thru 8 inclusive amendments if it meant that Christians, Alt-Righters and Republicans would be punished? I'd say north of 85%.

You want me to care about them? Nope, not even a bit. Again, sad they died, human life is precious but anything else? Nothing.

Terrorism prevention in the West is a joke.

Meet the current Homeland security adviser Laila Alawa - Chief Executive Officer & Founder, Coming of Faith.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/...er_1_0.pdf

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/13/syrian...y-advisor/

And here what she thinks of 9/11:



Yeah - 9/11 was indeed good insofar that it spelled the beginning of the end for your kind, but you are just too stupid to realize that. Even now as the traiterous elite invites you over in millions you think that bullshit words like Islamophobia and the idiotic SJWs will protect you.

Trust me - the SJWs will turn on you as soon as their media and academia is ordered to turn on you.

But the audacity of those bastards to hire women like that as "security advisers" - amazing.

What's next?

Heads of Anti-Terrorist division at the FBI:



Oh - I forgot - nevermind:

(06-15-2016 05:38 PM)da_zeb Wrote:  The problem with Cernovich's theory is that he focuses on the 202 rounds fired and then claims that because this would imply an unrealistic accuracy on the part of the loan gunman, ergo there must have been another shooter. Except, the existence of a second shooter doesn't resolve his claim about the unfeasiblility of shooting 102 people with 202 rounds - unless the mystery gunman had OCD and very carefully tidied up after himself, collecting and disposing of his shell casings.

Mike is a smart guy, however he is now totally in marketing mode.

Frankly, if he believes the shit he is posting he's lost all my respect.

(06-15-2016 05:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Anyone watch Israel's Netanyahu's response to the Orlando's shooting ?






What do you guys think ?

I call bullshit. The guy was Muslim/Arab, Israelis don't like them, that's the only reason this statement was made.

If Israel, whom he represents in this video, is so in favor of diversity, why do they sterilize female African immigrants as a condition for them to stay in the country?

Why are Palestinian kids segregated in the school system?

(06-15-2016 05:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Anyone watch Israel's Netanyahu's response to the Orlando's shooting ?






What do you guys think ?

It's a horribly cynical attempt to shill for support for his nation and their wider aims in the region. It's simple exploitation of the event, and as such it is disrespectful.

If he wanted the speech to be effective, he should have merely condemned the attacks and voiced support for the community attacked. Instead, he couldn't resist going for more.

Notice him fitting Iran in there.

He mentions Syria first, and credits ISIS with killing gays in Syria, but Israel's long-strategized plan for Syria and the resultant disempowerment of Assad is what has allowed ISIS to run rampant over Syria and Iraq and be in a subsequent position to "throw gays off of buildings in Syria".

He leaves that out because he expects most people to not know that. Also, he is saying it to keep pressing on for complete overthrow of Syria; not to combat ISIS who he could care less about. Notice the complete lack of care on the part of our "aircraft carrier in the Middle East" (Israel) as ISIS gained momentum and has run rampant in their backyard for years, committing genocide in the process (the worst of all sins, amirite fellas?). It seems to me as if our "aircraft carrier" is missing its crew.

It's a shame that Israel continues to try to virtue signal to people that despise them, and doesn't just admit to who and what they are. Instead of siding with the Western Right, they bind-bendingly continue to try to front as if they are in-league with the rest of western liberal democracy as they:

1. take no refugees,
2. are an explicitly ethno-nationalist nation who demands its Jewish identity and only encourages Jewish immigration,
3. only allows Jews to marry other Jews within the nation,
4. has never and will never allow gay marriage,
5. has a practical theocracy, and
6. is much worse than South Africa ever was in terms of apartheid.

"Our Values". That's funny stuff. If he wanted to help the West, he would have instead admonished them to align themselves closer to political reality. He didn't say it because he doesn't want it. He only wants support for his nation to do so, and for them to continue military operations that will give his nation wider territory in the Near East.

I can respect honesty and honest self-defense. It's a shame that they forwent that route and in the process leave the Western Right out to dry.

Virtue signalling to liberals only enables them. Trying to pretend to be one of them to the loss of the rest of the West is for low lifes.

nevermind