Post: #426

I like the people finally confirming some truth.

There have been some pretty watery opinions in this thread I have been surprised by:

1) Find an American chick in a small town that are full of fatties and she is the one thin chick. Don't worry she'll stay thin!

2) Phillipines. I have heard too many bad things from people I trust that have been there. Anyone mentions Phillipines I am replying with "BOOOOOOOOO! OUT OUT OUT!"

3) Singapore. Yeah, heard bad things. They are like ugly boring Chinese chicks. Pass. I have seen several here in SoCal. All ugly.

4) Kuala Lumpur. You can barely drink there and the chicks again are like ugly Chinese chicks!

I'll give Mexico one more small shot in the future. I have decided I have complete opposite tastes from any poster that thinks Mexico is a good spot for visiting or for girls, if my next hop there goes flop.

Post: #427

Have you written off Colombia?

Post: #428

I love Colombia. I love the people. I love the terrain. I love the their Spanish accent (makes Mexican accent look like ugly fat screeching fat chick).

I presented a list of contenders in my first post in this thread. I want to run through all those contenders unless one in my gut yells YES!

Colombia yelled YES! for being a lifelong playboy, at this point though I myself felt there could be better places for LTR girls.

Colombian girls seem way too crafty. Their culture is very cool, yet I can feel that there is a mistrustful undercurrent. Too many broken up families and girls that seem like they have emotional problems.

If I ran out of my entire list of contenders I may give Colombia another chance in the future.

I have been to 9 countries so far it is the only one I would think about relocating to.

My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

I was hoping Brazil would be a good contender, I just think with its economy, rising crime, people witnessing chance of danger much higher than Colombia I think it is off the table for me right now. One of my best friends had an accident baby out there. Lived in Rio 4 years. Says the whole country gone down hill fast since 2012. Plus I am not very attracted to the common Brazilian girl facial features much of the time. Unlike Colombia where the Pochahantas looks gets me every time.

I placed Poland at the back of the list too from all the slut stories and butterface stories around here.

Post: #429

(04-03-2016 08:51 PM)the biggest cheetah Wrote:  My ltr.....

My pleasure to give you first rep point for well -thought out explanation of LTR selection.

It sounds "alpha" to have an insanely stringent list of requirements and not to brook any exceptions, but then one ends up sounding like an American woman screening for a husband.

That can't be good.

There are problems that show enduring character flaws, like a history of being a bar girl-- it means week after week she went back to a negative environment etc .

Actually being a single mother is a big practical problem-- hard to get privacy with the wife, financial load, the kid will always come before you. I'm willing to tolerate a little girl but not a son of the ex. It's just too mych like having the ex around.

But a woman only has to be horny and drunk or infatuated one night to be a single mother.

When you aren't a 6'3" Alpha God and/or under 40, even in the third world you aren't going to get the millionaire's daughter medical student to marry you.

You are going to make some compromises or not get a wife.

Each person has to be aware of what they find intolerable.

For me one thing is low intelligence. Being around an 85 IQ chick several hours a day would be a nightmare. This usually shows itself as a very slow sense of humor. A dull girl won't be happy either, I will appear to be speaking nonsense to her. Sexually for me a girl has to be very thin. Opposite of big booty lover.

One area where I've turned around is religiosity. I am pretty much an atheist, but women who are not religious tend to have inferior character in my experience. You WANT some naive trust in a woman. Yeah, God exists. Sure he does. Interestingly, I believe Nietzche himself ("God is dead") thought that women without religion were flawed.

And don't argue with ME--ask Mozart: "I think a bachelor is only half-alive" ( From a letter to his beloved sister.)

And the best description of happy marriage, Shakespeare:

For what is wedlock forced but a hell,
An age of discord and continual strife?
Whereas the contrary bringeth bliss,
And is a pattern of celestial peace.

You should feel a sense of loss when you part from her.

The old saying has a lot of wisdom in it:
You shouldn't marry somebody you can live with, you should marry someone you can't live without

Post: #430

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I love Colombia. I love the people. I love the terrain. I love the their Spanish accent (makes Mexican accent look like ugly fat screeching fat chick).

I presented a list of contenders in my first post in this thread. I want to run through all those contenders unless one in my gut yells YES!

Colombia yelled YES! for being a lifelong playboy, at this point though I myself felt there could be better places for LTR girls.

Colombian girls seem way too crafty. Their culture is very cool, yet I can feel that there is a mistrustful undercurrent. Too many broken up families and girls that seem like they have emotional problems.

If I ran out of my entire list of contenders I may give Colombia another chance in the future.

I have been to 9 countries so far it is the only one I would think about relocating to.

My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

I was hoping Brazil would be a good contender, I just think with its economy, rising crime, people witnessing chance of danger much higher than Colombia I think it is off the table for me right now. One of my best friends had an accident baby out there. Lived in Rio 4 years. Says the whole country gone down hill fast since 2012. Plus I am not very attracted to the common Brazilian girl facial features much of the time. Unlike Colombia where the Pochahantas looks gets me every time.

I placed Poland at the back of the list too from all the slut stories and butterface stories around here.

I agree with you on Colombia and Poland.

Unfortunately, I haven't been back to Romania in a few years. I think it has better potential than Mexico. Girls are hotter and English levels are higher.

I wouldn't give up on Brazil. The best girls I have met there have been from Minas Gerais.

Post: #431

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

Would you mind explaining why Serbia and Romania are on the list? I found the Balkans extremely tough especially if you want to find anything better than a 7. Usually the 8s, 9s and 10s are all reserved for the local high rollers who drive around in Porsches and wearing expensive golden necklaces.

Furthermore I think Serbian girls are quite happy with their local guys. They usually tall and many of them workout a lot.

For Romania I also found the girls there not easy but I think a tier 2 city like Cluj or Sibiau would be good. In Bucharest I found that the girls are already acting like western girls most likely because of the massive influx of tourists especially during the summer.

I spent a total of maybe four month in these two countries so I might not be an expert but that's just my opinion.

Post: #432

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I was hoping Brazil would be a good contender, I just think with its economy, rising crime, people witnessing chance of danger much higher than Colombia I think it is off the table for me right now. One of my best friends had an accident baby out there. Lived in Rio 4 years. Says the whole country gone down hill fast since 2012. Plus I am not very attracted to the common Brazilian girl facial features much of the time. Unlike Colombia where the Pochahantas looks gets me every time.

Not sure what the divorce rate is like in Brazil..but I knew a bunch of divorced people down there old/young. It's a society where people fall in & out of love rather quickly. Passionate short relationships publicized on Facebook only for a sudden breakup to occur just months later.

Many prefer to hang out with friends & family during NYE and Carnaval. Every now and then however, a passionate romance will spark up between two people so that they impulsively take a trip with another for one of those holidays only for the fling to end several weeks after.

In the most developed parts of Brazil, there is no shortage of good looking dudes from reputable families that share the same sense of humor, cultural values, upbringing, and emotional tendencies with best looking gals down there. Brazil can be difficult finding that long-term wife material, but a very rewarding experience. Long-term investment for sure.

(07-22-2016 05:59 AM)superschalk Wrote:  Would you mind explaining why Serbia and Romania are on the list? I found the Balkans extremely tough especially if you want to find anything better than a 7. Usually the 8s, 9s and 10s are all reserved for the local high rollers who drive around in Porsches and wearing expensive golden necklaces.

Furthermore I think Serbian girls are quite happy with their local guys. They usually tall and many of them workout a lot.

For Romania I also found the girls there not easy but I think a tier 2 city like Cluj or Sibiau would be good. In Bucharest I found that the girls are already acting like western girls most likely because of the massive influx of tourists especially during the summer.

I spent a total of maybe four month in these two countries so I might not be an expert but that's just my opinion.

Mad props to those that have found long-term and short-term success with South Slavic Balkan women. I wasn't one of them during my short stay there or when meeting those gals in other areas, haha. I just don't gel with them.

It's not just the hot 9's and 10's...but even the 5s-7s will prefer local South Slavic men who can reciprocate the same emotional tendencies back at them. Cool friendly people overall though. Appears as if the guys who did best there day gamed the college aged gals on streets opposed to nightlife.

I've personally clicked better with Romanian chicks from my limited experiences.

Post: #433

(07-22-2016 05:59 AM)superschalk Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

Would you mind explaining why Serbia and Romania are on the list? I found the Balkans extremely tough especially if you want to find anything better than a 7. Usually the 8s, 9s and 10s are all reserved for the local high rollers who drive around in Porsches and wearing expensive golden necklaces.

Furthermore I think Serbian girls are quite happy with their local guys. They usually tall and many of them workout a lot.

For Romania I also found the girls there not easy but I think a tier 2 city like Cluj or Sibiau would be good. In Bucharest I found that the girls are already acting like western girls most likely because of the massive influx of tourists especially during the summer.

I spent a total of maybe four month in these two countries so I might not be an expert but that's just my opinion.

Romania is on the list because there were quite a few great posts back on a guy that lived there and thinks it was the one of the best places for a wife. He explained why in detail.

Also I have known a few Romanians, one quite well. I like how they act. They have a lot of life in them in a good way. I like the way Romanian chicks look.

For Serbia I have heard repeatedly Belgrade is great.

I am over 6ft and over 200lbs lean so I think I would be average there I guess. The culture and women seem intriguing. If for nothing else if I go there I will learn a thing or two from Serbian guys it seems.

Do you have better countries in mind for LTR?

Post: #434

I am betting my bottom dollar an Asian country will win out. These discussions about LA and EE may be inconsequential for me.

I have had more than a few Asian chicks pretty much worship me for how white I can be. I have never had another race of woman come close to giving me what seems like a +1.5 due to my race/looks except for a couple black chicks.

I had one Chinese girl high rich government daughter 7.5, 27 at the time two years older than me literally holding on to my leg begging me stay longer to fuck her again when I had to leave. This even though she expressed worry and possible cultural embarrassment I was too young for her if she ever showed me off. This is when I had maybe half the game I have now at best and much less in shape.

Another one a Chinese 24yo 7.0 worshiped how white my skin was in bed claiming how she felt dirty and dark in comparison when she seemed fairly light for a Chinese chick.

Other stories on top of this with various other Asian chicks.

These attractive girls from higher class families were like fish in a barrel for me. They both were mad clingy off the bat, they seemed attractive and together enough they would get plenty of beta orbiters and were used to rejecting guys.

I could have gamed these chicks blindfolded they made it so easy.

I have my most value there by far.

Post: #435

^ Every society has their own advantages & disadvantages. Your personality tendencies will be more tolerant of certain cultural aspects than others.

Speaking of Serbian women, the ones I've met in the US tend to be the most family oriented and less corrupted by westernized serial dating, etc. Makes them great LTR material...just entering that personal dating space is a bit harder though it could be more rewarding?

Post: #436

(07-22-2016 05:59 AM)superschalk Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

Would you mind explaining why Serbia and Romania are on the list? I found the Balkans extremely tough especially if you want to find anything better than a 7. Usually the 8s, 9s and 10s are all reserved for the local high rollers who drive around in Porsches and wearing expensive golden necklaces.

Furthermore I think Serbian girls are quite happy with their local guys. They usually tall and many of them workout a lot.

For Romania I also found the girls there not easy but I think a tier 2 city like Cluj or Sibiau would be good. In Bucharest I found that the girls are already acting like western girls most likely because of the massive influx of tourists especially during the summer.

I spent a total of maybe four month in these two countries so I might not be an expert but that's just my opinion.

I think you guys are exaggerating the height of Balkaners in general.

I have met a few Serbs and Bulgarians in the USA and they seemed average to me, 2 of them were actually skinny.

I dont know how much you have tried it, but if you have good game you can have plenty of success in Serbia, especially if you bring financial comfortability with you, dress well and behave like a man.

I have heard bad things about Romanian girls so i dont know, they dont seem like marriage material to me.

Post: #437

If anyone has read this thread it is the exemplar example why you cannot trust guys' opinions on countries until you visit unless you know the guy and his tastes extremely well in real life.

Post: #438

(07-22-2016 11:34 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Do you have better countries in mind for LTR?

Georgia, Armenia (and more widely, Caucasus countries/republics) are very marriage-oriented and family-oriented traditional societies - as Central Asia countries (Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, ect) for that matter.

Made a short post about Tbilisi recently in case you missed it: /thread-57041...pid1350180

Post: #439

Yeah I am sure, that is pretty hardcore though for my travel experience at this point. Maybe I would soften up to visiting a place like Uzebekistan after I knew some Russian and had visited UA or Russia.

Post: #440

(07-22-2016 02:37 AM)Dantes Wrote:  I wouldn't give up on Brazil. The best girls I have met there have been from Minas Gerais.

They're not only known in the forum for being LTR-worthy girls. For those that don't know, in Brazil it's well known that the mineiras make good girlfriends.

On my facebook news feed, I could go back 5 years for some of my friends and family and they're still with the same partner today. For many men and women in MG they will experience the polar opposite of the player/carousel lifestyle. Monogamy can be common, especially outside the capital.

That's not to say relationships are perfect of course. I also know men and women who've divorced. But that's how it is anywhere really.

Post: #441

(07-23-2016 12:04 PM)Vronski Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 11:34 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Do you have better countries in mind for LTR?

Georgia, Armenia (and more widely, Caucasus countries/republics) are very marriage-oriented and family-oriented traditional societies - as Central Asia countries (Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, ect) for that matter.

If you've stayed long enough in the Caucasus to know, what is the level of social integration (building a circle of local friends and acquaintances, being accepted) that a foreigner can expect to achieve (especially after becoming intermediate in the local language and establishing LTR with a local woman)? Are Georgia and Armenia more or less accepting in this regard than most of eastern Europe?

I ask because even in western Europe, especially Germanic and Scandinavian countries, I've noticed that it seems quite difficult for foreign men to find their way fully into a local social circle. Of course, knowing the language helps a lot, as does marrying a local woman, but even then, the status of being Auslander can still linger and have its effects. At least from a distance, it doesn't appear that eastern European societies are all that different. I'd be very interested from anyone who's spent time in eastern Europe, the Balkans and/or the Caucasus, as to how this dynamic plays out in those regions. Of course expatriation to a new culture is never easy or simple, and no one should expect to be greeted with a parade, but it's important to think about the long-term prospects of assimilating into a culture and society.

Post: #442

(07-23-2016 03:50 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Yeah I am sure, that is pretty hardcore though for my travel experience at this point. Maybe I would soften up to visiting a place like Uzebekistan after I knew some Russian and had visited UA or Russia.

Georgia is not really "harcore", contrarily it becomes a trendy destination. My advice, try to visit Georgia before it becomes too touristic. Last time I was there I spotted many tourists, including large groups of Chineses on touristic tours (and not just in Tbilisi, but also in historic small towns). Go figure. Chineses in Georgia . They are everywhere.

Post: #443

How many people there speak English well in your experience?

Post: #444

(07-24-2016 05:57 AM)Travesty Wrote:  How many people there speak English well in your experience?

In the younger generations, much more so than in the slavic countries. Keep in mind that Georgia is a very americanophile country -part of the main road that leads to Tbilisi airport is even named George W. Bush Street !!

Post: #445

Besides the Georgia cultural talk (which is fascinating but covered before) what has been experience from those who have gone there, and done extensive day-gaming/online game/night-game? Is it easier or harder than say countries like Poland, Balkans or the Baltics?

Post: #446

(07-22-2016 05:59 AM)superschalk Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

Would you mind explaining why Serbia and Romania are on the list? I found the Balkans extremely tough especially if you want to find anything better than a 7. Usually the 8s, 9s and 10s are all reserved for the local high rollers who drive around in Porsches and wearing expensive golden necklaces.

Furthermore I think Serbian girls are quite happy with their local guys. They usually tall and many of them workout a lot.

For Romania I also found the girls there not easy but I think a tier 2 city like Cluj or Sibiau would be good. In Bucharest I found that the girls are already acting like western girls most likely because of the massive influx of tourists especially during the summer.

I spent a total of maybe four month in these two countries so I might not be an expert but that's just my opinion.

Hooking a 8 of 9 anywhere is tough.

Travesty:

Do you like Asians girls or do you like them because a lot of them worship white dudes?

Post: #447

Both are special to my heart.

I will tell you this I am not the white guy that thinks any Asian 6 is a hot anime girl in waiting. I have grown up with these chicks in large amounts where I live since junior high. Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese, Singaporian, Filipinos, Taiwanese with a few scattered Japanese and Thai. I know the ugly or plains ones when I see them and Asian pussy isn't some new exotic thing for me.

These chicks give me an SMV +1.0-1.5 pretty often (foreign born that haven't been here long or are sheltered, American Asians ones that have went on dates give me more like a plus +0.5 but are a much worse breed!). That is huge especially when your SMV is already high.

This means if I walk around America as a 7 I need pretty tight game to bang a much younger 7 (10 year difference). Over there I will now be an 8 and it means those 7s that were tough to game are now knocking on my door.

Not too bad.

Post: #448

(07-21-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  My gut tells me Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Serbia, or Romania will beat it.

I would strongly recommend you add Korea to the above list.

For the many reasons people say that Korea is the hardest Asian country for a "bang trip" (check out hte Korea threads, not easy lays for the most part), it also makes it one of the best countries to find a wife. Here is why I think it should be #1

Pros
1) Hottest women in Asia. Tall, skinny, feminine women who dress to the 9s for all occasions
2) Tied with Japan for the #2 highest average IQ (106) in the world. Some smart cookies over there. https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
3) Possible to find cute 25 year old virgins still living at home with parents, who would like nothing more than to meet a guy and settle down. (I didn't say easy to find...you will have to create and work your network, won't find them at bars. Or you could get lucky at daygame but not easy at all)
4) English ability is decent, they study from elementary school but are often shy to speak it, however their overall ability is good
5) Feminism has not infected the country yet, for the most part. People understand men and women are different and should have different roles in society. Many women would be happy to be stay at home moms and take great care of their man. Many but not all, filter accordingly.
6) High standard of living, very safe, and modern country.

Cons
1) Korean women can be hard to get, and obtaining that 25 year old virgin can take a long time. But not to worry, there are plenty of "Foreigner groupies" to keep you company who are not wife material, but are plenty of fun, once you learn the lay of the land. They can keep you company while you wife search. Just don't get trapped wifing up one of them.
2) You should be willing to settle down in Korea for at least a year to give yourself time to acclimate.
3) Many Koreans won't want to leave korea. So if you meet your perfect wife, you may not be leaving.
4) Speaking Korean isn't required, but sure is helpful. And it is one of the hardest languages in the world for English speakers to learn (over 2200 hours required according to State Dept) http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com...difficulty

Good luck!!

Post: #449

^ Korea sounds hard as balls. I would have to be absolutely in love with the country from what I have read to stay there for the women. Who knows, I think I would still try Taiwan, China, and Japan all before Korea.

I have had Korean girl classmates since junior high. I never thought the Korean look was anything special. I have my Korea flag, she had fake tits and small white micro scars at the bottom of her nostrils from plastic surgery. I almost laughed thinking of the RVF stereotypes. That said, I didn't like the plastic feel, and the girl I know is a sample of one, but from Koreans in general they seem quite reserved which I don't like.

Post: #450

(07-26-2016 01:32 AM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Korea sounds hard as balls. I would have to be absolutely in love with the country from what I have read to stay there for the women. Who knows, I think I would still try Taiwan, China, and Japan all before Korea.

I have had Korean girl classmates since junior high. I never thought the Korean look was anything special. I have my Korea flag, she had fake tits and small white micro scars at the bottom of her nostrils from plastic surgery. I almost laughed thinking of the RVF stereotypes. That said, I didn't like the plastic feel, and the girl I know is a sample of one, but from Koreans in general they seem quite reserved which I don't like.

Yup I think its a very valid point, living in Korea is great (in my opinion, but not for everyone). That being said if you don't like it, totally not worth it.

As for the epidemic of plastic surgery, sometimes it can be very enjoyable, sometimes the surgery can be pretty noticeable, and sometimes you actually find a natural one.

Also, I think Taiwan would be my second choice. I spent a few months there, women are generally much easier then Korea and Japan as well, and still very cute. Not a bad way to go at all. English ability was lower, especially outside of Taipei. But that was part of the adventure I guess.

Anyway, so many options! Best way to to sample them all before you decide. Spend a month in each place if you can to get a feel for it.