Wife Hunting Abroad
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Kid Twist 路 2016-09-12 10:19:00 路 #626
(09-11-2016 12:38 AM)username Wrote:(09-10-2016 01:45 PM)thomasthewise Wrote: A lot of them divorce under the illusion that they can all get a handsome, rich, good looking guy in his late 20s early 30s, without realizing that none of these guys wants an EE headache. Then they either are alone forever and become ugly or settle for an average guy.
Exactly. Many of them may confuse guys finding her attractive with guys who would wife them up. So they already have a pretty good guy now but have a "male 9" hitting on them. That "male 9" has a million options in the world and 99.9% of the time just wants to rack up notches. So this girl will burn down her pretty good life thinking she will upgrade when all that will happen is a pump and dump.
Definitely something that needs to be screened against before getting married to her.
Is this actually what makes the world go 'round or just show that women can't look at obvious things, objectively?
Are there so few women (or were they the one that found out the hard way) that understand that most guys just want to bang them, and a guy being attracted to you and giving you attention doesn't mean he wants to stay around? This seems like the most obvious thing in the world for any guy growing up in the world, but maybe that's because we know how we all are programmed to think
It almosts gets crystallized in the new dating app world where these women think dudes actually are swiping right because somehow the profile or their average pictures suggest quality. No, ladies, they are number hunting for easy bangs, and looking past your mediocrity for one night.
is this the ultimate in hamsterization?
stpete 路 2016-09-12 10:52:00 路 #627
A lot of talk recently in this thread about bringing them back or not. Then if you do bring them back, what to expect. Isn't this summed up by now?
I mean to me it's pretty straightforward and simple, and several have summed it up well including Travesty.
I don't know what else there is to say about it. The good thing is it is one thing that is simple and straightforward.
It's been talked about on other forums for years. People always come to the same conclusions that have been mentioned here recently. Even from forums with married guys living abroad married and bringing them back to their Country.
The only reason to keep on is that people might speak from conjecture and not experience. Or if you don't "date" much in your own country so you go to some Country on a whim for a wife. But all that is summed up well here.
I prefer hearing about the comparisons of the different wife hunting locations. This is something that seems to always have different and intersting opinions. Either way I like the thread.
I mean to me it's pretty straightforward and simple, and several have summed it up well including Travesty.
I don't know what else there is to say about it. The good thing is it is one thing that is simple and straightforward.
It's been talked about on other forums for years. People always come to the same conclusions that have been mentioned here recently. Even from forums with married guys living abroad married and bringing them back to their Country.
The only reason to keep on is that people might speak from conjecture and not experience. Or if you don't "date" much in your own country so you go to some Country on a whim for a wife. But all that is summed up well here.
I prefer hearing about the comparisons of the different wife hunting locations. This is something that seems to always have different and intersting opinions. Either way I like the thread.
Laner 路 2016-09-12 11:13:00 路 #628
As this is a thread about wives, which I assume is the desire to start a family, I will share some recent experiences of mine.
There is one place where all sorts of parents come together to spend afternoons; The Playground.
Here are the ways that I see the moms of my neighborhood in regards to their role as wife and mother. I will start with who I deem to be the 'best' mothers/wives and go on down the list.
1. Chinese Canadian: The moms are relaxed and very well taken care of. They maintain their beauty, while still having fun and playing in the dirt with their kids. The dads, too, are having fun and acting out games with their kids, running around. The parents and kids seem very happy together. Pleasantville.
2. White Canadian: The moms, while much more plain and without much desire to be attractive, are still very pleasant and happy. They are fun to be around for both kids and parents. They are mostly PC, but with an underlying intelligence that many Canadian people have. The dads are much more under the radar here, which is different from the suburban playgrounds.
3 (tie). Mexican: In Vancouver, most of the families are fresas but without the snobby stereotype. The women are attractive and the families seem very close knit. They are friendly, smart and love to laugh. Their kids are happy and intelligent. The downside, and the only reason they would not be a bit higher, is the dads. They are much more PC than other groups, and much more so than the few naco that show up sometimes, who are mostly cool as fuck artists/entrepreneurs, but they are not many.
3 (tie): Japanese/Korean: I lump these two together, and tie them with the Mexicans. There are not too many Koreans families yet, but lots of singles so this will change soon. The Korean moms are fantastic, although very strict. The Japanese moms are amazing. Gentle, intelligent and even childlike in their interactions with kids. Most of the kids really love the Japanese moms, their snacks are the healthiest and the best, and their voices are lovely when speaking to children. They are not number one mostly because of their inability to select good mates. If they have a good husband, they are number 1 easily. But most of these moms have fathers that are not very good. Sometimes weak, sometimes just cruel. Too bad.
4. Slavic (mostly Russian): The moms are the hottest, best dressed, and stay out of the playground and in the shade. They talk among themselves, and are fairly closed off. Their kids are free and seem happy, but also more likely to pick on the smaller kids. The dads are rarely there. Being Russian, its almost impossible to tell if they are happy or not. Keeping their Hermes clean must be a chore in a playground full of kids.
5. Chinese: Like the Russians in many ways. In fact they seem to get along better than I thought. Sexy as fuck in their little dresses and high heels, seeking shade with the Russians. They talk beauty, take lots of pictures and selfies, compliment dresses and outfits, etc. The kids seem almost bored, and are prone to lash out for no reason. They certainly seem to hunger for attention more than the other kids.
That is my neighborhood for the most part. There are some Punjab Indians who are great, and an increasing amount of Muslims, who stay completely isolated. Not sure where, as I only ever see them walking. They tried taking over the library, but Canadian parents pushed back and now I am not sure where they went. They don't let their kids play with non Muslims, so it pisses a lot of parents off.
If you have the chance to go and hang out in a playground in a multi cultural hood, go. Its a real eye opener and gives so much insight into how different cultures see motherhood and family life.
There is one place where all sorts of parents come together to spend afternoons; The Playground.
Here are the ways that I see the moms of my neighborhood in regards to their role as wife and mother. I will start with who I deem to be the 'best' mothers/wives and go on down the list.
1. Chinese Canadian: The moms are relaxed and very well taken care of. They maintain their beauty, while still having fun and playing in the dirt with their kids. The dads, too, are having fun and acting out games with their kids, running around. The parents and kids seem very happy together. Pleasantville.
2. White Canadian: The moms, while much more plain and without much desire to be attractive, are still very pleasant and happy. They are fun to be around for both kids and parents. They are mostly PC, but with an underlying intelligence that many Canadian people have. The dads are much more under the radar here, which is different from the suburban playgrounds.
3 (tie). Mexican: In Vancouver, most of the families are fresas but without the snobby stereotype. The women are attractive and the families seem very close knit. They are friendly, smart and love to laugh. Their kids are happy and intelligent. The downside, and the only reason they would not be a bit higher, is the dads. They are much more PC than other groups, and much more so than the few naco that show up sometimes, who are mostly cool as fuck artists/entrepreneurs, but they are not many.
3 (tie): Japanese/Korean: I lump these two together, and tie them with the Mexicans. There are not too many Koreans families yet, but lots of singles so this will change soon. The Korean moms are fantastic, although very strict. The Japanese moms are amazing. Gentle, intelligent and even childlike in their interactions with kids. Most of the kids really love the Japanese moms, their snacks are the healthiest and the best, and their voices are lovely when speaking to children. They are not number one mostly because of their inability to select good mates. If they have a good husband, they are number 1 easily. But most of these moms have fathers that are not very good. Sometimes weak, sometimes just cruel. Too bad.
4. Slavic (mostly Russian): The moms are the hottest, best dressed, and stay out of the playground and in the shade. They talk among themselves, and are fairly closed off. Their kids are free and seem happy, but also more likely to pick on the smaller kids. The dads are rarely there. Being Russian, its almost impossible to tell if they are happy or not. Keeping their Hermes clean must be a chore in a playground full of kids.
5. Chinese: Like the Russians in many ways. In fact they seem to get along better than I thought. Sexy as fuck in their little dresses and high heels, seeking shade with the Russians. They talk beauty, take lots of pictures and selfies, compliment dresses and outfits, etc. The kids seem almost bored, and are prone to lash out for no reason. They certainly seem to hunger for attention more than the other kids.
That is my neighborhood for the most part. There are some Punjab Indians who are great, and an increasing amount of Muslims, who stay completely isolated. Not sure where, as I only ever see them walking. They tried taking over the library, but Canadian parents pushed back and now I am not sure where they went. They don't let their kids play with non Muslims, so it pisses a lot of parents off.
If you have the chance to go and hang out in a playground in a multi cultural hood, go. Its a real eye opener and gives so much insight into how different cultures see motherhood and family life.
phluff127 路 2016-09-12 11:24:00 路 #629
It shouldn't matter whether or not you bring a foreign girl back. Why? Because the only reason to get married is to have kids. Therefore, marry a girl and get her pregnant immediately and repeatedly. If you have 3 kids for instance, this will mean she will be unable to date anyone for about 6 years whether she lives on a farm in Poland or Miami beach. By the time the 6 years are up you now have 3 little rugrats running around, whom she loves deeply and must care for which is a full time job. Moral of the story- marry and impregnate.
Travesty 路 2016-09-12 12:58:00 路 #630
(09-12-2016 10:52 AM)stpete Wrote: I prefer hearing about the comparisons of the different wife hunting locations.
Me too...
me too...
The questions and debate surprisingly are getting slightly worse consistently as time goes on. With a couple retards placing their hand in the cookie jar from time to time.
More data less conjecture.
thomasthewise 路 2016-09-13 02:17:00 路 #631
(09-12-2016 10:14 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:The level of religiosity in that part of the world is low, especially among the Orthodox. The protestants there are, tend to be more religious. If you are the right person, most all ladies will move. Sometimes the protestant girls might not dress as hot, but I suppose you would have to meet in person. The place to find them would be in church, or I suppose you could join one of those missionary trips. If you are into that lifestyle. That being said, one of the worst whoremongers I ever met in Kiev was an American minister in charge of one of the biggest protestant denominations in Ukraine. I will not mention his name. There are some Ukrainian/Russian immigrants in the USA and Canada who are quite observant, too.(09-10-2016 01:45 PM)thomasthewise Wrote: If you live in a flashy area, or a big city, she will be happier, but since your EE 7 is now a US 10, she will be hit on constantly. This can warp the mind of women who are less than quality character-wise.
This is what hangs in the balance. The guys in these situations try to take advantage of the disparity and how crappy in general western women have become, but then don't realize that the game has changed in a weird way when you enter back into the western cesspool of relatively average or bad girls, constant (social) media and newfound attention.
thomas, do you find that religious girls (thus, greater character) are available, or are they not because they don't typically move being more traditional, or are they generally less hot?
I had seen posted on other sites that if you did get an EE girl, you should look at the parents and basically try to understand that she was a solid christian, which would solve many of the above problems. I'm not sure how common that is in any of these countries post Soviet, though they historically have a great culture in that regard.
Actually, now that you mention it, there is a significant number of people who are Tatar or part of other Muslim groups in that part of the world. They do tend to more family oriented. Especially as travel in the Caucasus region. I would not go to Chechnya, however, and it has been a while since I was in Nalchik so I don't really know about safety. In Nalchik the Kabardians are in my opinion some of the nicest people in the world (very conservative), but the Balkars, a Turkic people, are very closed to outsiders. Tatar girls have the reputation of being a little devious.
Armenian girls are also much more loyal but they tend to put on the pounds.
Once you get outside of Minsk, in Belarus you will find mostly solid, traditional girls. Mogilev, Vitebsk, Novopolotsk, Gomel for the most part, for example. I do not know Brest or Hrodna as well.
Travesty 路 2016-09-13 13:13:00 路 #632
^ Excellent.
rudebwoy 路 2016-09-14 10:23:00 路 #633
(09-08-2016 12:05 PM)Travesty Wrote: ^ I am not understanding from multiple angles.
You've said in the past you have had consistent success with good looking girls in TDot. Why not bring a girl back at the same level of looks, just a much nicer personality?
If TDot thirst is so bad you couldn't even bring back a similar level of looks girl then it seems like it would be bad for gaming on top of it. So what is the advantage? Not good for LTR, not good for a player. A paycheck then you are in a coffin?
I live in SoCal right now. Looks wise and age wise I can do a 8-10 year younger 7 (there are lots of good looking girls her, lots of competition too though). And I am sure it could have a decent chance of working out.
Even with this though I won't roll the dice and will certainly move when I settle down to a place in the U.S. that is more family-oriented, affordable, and stable for relationships. Women are too status obsessed here in general.
There seems to be a certain tone in your threads.
This is the second time you have made some slick comment towards me, is their a problem?
I speak from my experiences, not something I have read.
I know multiple men who have bought women back from different countries, some work but often most do not work.
I have seen it destroy men and they never really recovered from it.
Everybody likes to think it won't happen to them.
Money like all relationships/marriages seems to be the main factor, so make sure you are making enough to make her happy.
rudebwoy 路 2016-09-14 10:33:00 路 #634
(09-12-2016 11:24 AM)phluff127 Wrote: It shouldn't matter whether or not you bring a foreign girl back. Why? Because the only reason to get married is to have kids. Therefore, marry a girl and get her pregnant immediately and repeatedly. If you have 3 kids for instance, this will mean she will be unable to date anyone for about 6 years whether she lives on a farm in Poland or Miami beach. By the time the 6 years are up you now have 3 little rugrats running around, whom she loves deeply and must care for which is a full time job. Moral of the story- marry and impregnate.
Kids doesn't mean she will stay.
Some women may even prolong getting pregnant.
scotian 路 2016-09-14 11:41:00 路 #635
I'm not sure if its been mentioned on here already but a few years back legendary RVF member Hooligan Harry posted an excellent thread where he compiled a bunch of data showing that foreign bride marriages are more successful, here it is: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-20053...57134.html
Also, a strategy I've thought about it going for deported chicks abroad. Obviously not criminal ones but girls who spent part of their youth in the US before getting shipped back because of paper work. I met a few of these chicks in Bogota, many of them are working at call centres there and are fluently bilingual. I went on a date with one girl who lived in Florida for 12 years from 5-17 before her family was deported for overstaying, she then lived back home in Bogota for 6 years and is now married and living in Europe. I know this seems like an odd strategy, but there are guys out there who don't want to live or frequently visit a place like Colombia, don't want to learn Spanish and want a girl who is familiar with the culture of their home country, deported girls could be an option.
Also, a strategy I've thought about it going for deported chicks abroad. Obviously not criminal ones but girls who spent part of their youth in the US before getting shipped back because of paper work. I met a few of these chicks in Bogota, many of them are working at call centres there and are fluently bilingual. I went on a date with one girl who lived in Florida for 12 years from 5-17 before her family was deported for overstaying, she then lived back home in Bogota for 6 years and is now married and living in Europe. I know this seems like an odd strategy, but there are guys out there who don't want to live or frequently visit a place like Colombia, don't want to learn Spanish and want a girl who is familiar with the culture of their home country, deported girls could be an option.
rudebwoy 路 2016-09-14 12:31:00 路 #636
^Harry Hooligan was one of my top fave all time posters on this forum.
He wasn't a normal dude to say the least. He was all business.
So what would work for him, might not work for others.
He wasn't a normal dude to say the least. He was all business.
So what would work for him, might not work for others.
scotian 路 2016-09-14 14:48:00 路 #637
(09-14-2016 12:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: ^Harry Hooligan was one of my top fave all time posters on this forum.
He wasn't a normal dude to say the least. He was all business.
So what would work for him, might not work for others.
He wasn't writing about his personal experience, he was writing about actual studies on the success of mail order bride marriages, literally men in the west who never met the woman they ordered until they arrived in the country. Those marriages were successful in 80% of cases, compared to a rate of 50% among western men and women of their country.
Cattle Rustler 路 2016-09-14 14:56:00 路 #638
Hot non ghetto Mexicans?
Fuck, I need to move to Canada....I mean "invade Canada".
Fuck, I need to move to Canada....I mean "invade Canada".
rudebwoy 路 2016-09-14 15:17:00 路 #639
(09-14-2016 02:48 PM)scotian Wrote:(09-14-2016 12:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: ^Harry Hooligan was one of my top fave all time posters on this forum.
He wasn't a normal dude to say the least. He was all business.
So what would work for him, might not work for others.
He wasn't writing about his personal experience, he was writing about actual studies on the success of mail order bride marriages, literally men in the west who never met the woman they ordered until they arrived in the country. Those marriages were successful in 80% of cases, compared to a rate of 50% among western men and women of their country.
There are many studies on all matters.
Like everything else it is a crap shoot.
I wish you luck, when you take the plunge.
Travesty, you sound really angry
Nice 3,000 posts though
Nice 3,000 posts though
Slam 路 2016-09-14 23:10:00 路 #641
This is gold. Scotian wins smartest parcero in the room.
(09-14-2016 11:41 AM)scotian Wrote: Also, a strategy I've thought about it going for deported chicks abroad. Obviously not criminal ones but girls who spent part of their youth in the US before getting shipped back because of paper work. I met a few of these chicks in Bogota, many of them are working at call centres there and are fluently bilingual. I went on a date with one girl who lived in Florida for 12 years from 5-17 before her family was deported for overstaying, she then lived back home in Bogota for 6 years and is now married and living in Europe. I know this seems like an odd strategy, but there are guys out there who don't want to live or frequently visit a place like Colombia, don't want to learn Spanish and want a girl who is familiar with the culture of their home country, deported girls could be an option.
Brosemite 路 2016-09-15 00:03:00 路 #642
(09-14-2016 10:33 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:(09-12-2016 11:24 AM)phluff127 Wrote: It shouldn't matter whether or not you bring a foreign girl back. Why? Because the only reason to get married is to have kids. Therefore, marry a girl and get her pregnant immediately and repeatedly. If you have 3 kids for instance, this will mean she will be unable to date anyone for about 6 years whether she lives on a farm in Poland or Miami beach. By the time the 6 years are up you now have 3 little rugrats running around, whom she loves deeply and must care for which is a full time job. Moral of the story- marry and impregnate.
Kids doesn't mean she will stay.
Some women may even prolong getting pregnant.
There's plenty of women in "the west" who got pregnant early with multiple kids only for them to start rebelling around their early/mid-30s by sleeping with other dudes. I know too many like that...
Patriarch 路 2016-09-15 07:08:00 路 #643
I don't mean to shit on the Vietnam hype train, but Vietnamese women are some of the most cunning, deceitful girls you will ever meet. There are definitely some great girls here, but the extent that they will go--both in severity and length--to deceive men is breathtaking to behold.
If you're looking for a wife here, either screen Vietnam cupid VERY carefully or, better yet, develop a social circle and have people screen girls for you. Any decent english ability should be a red flag.
If you're looking for a wife here, either screen Vietnam cupid VERY carefully or, better yet, develop a social circle and have people screen girls for you. Any decent english ability should be a red flag.
Travesty 路 2016-09-15 19:11:00 路 #644
I'll stop posting garbage, I've been shitposting since I was 9 on AOL chatrooms.
My next post will be data on Mazatlan, Montreal, or Romania and Serbia.
My next post will be data on Mazatlan, Montreal, or Romania and Serbia.
Kaizen 路 2016-09-15 20:55:00 路 #645
(09-15-2016 07:08 AM)Patriarch Wrote: I don't mean to shit on the Vietnam hype train, but Vietnamese women are some of the most cunning, deceitful girls you will ever meet. There are definitely some great
LOL. This response eventually shows up on any thread where women are being hyped.
You could substitute that bolded word above with thai/indian/black/white/indigenous/russian you name it and it will still be true.
As they say in the boxing game...protect yourself at all times.
Patriarch 路 2016-09-15 22:52:00 路 #646
Consider the ao dai:
![[Image: md_285_ao_dai_17jp.jpg]](http://aodaivinh.com/images/detailed/4/md_285_ao_dai_17jp.jpg)
Like Vietnamese women, the ao dai reveals everything, yet reveals nothing.
Like Vietnamese women, the ao dai reveals everything, yet reveals nothing.
Balkan 路 2016-09-16 21:32:00 路 #647
Yeah it's pretty apparent travesty is a king shitposter. He trolls around all the time. I'd take it more as a sign of affection than anything else. Here's a video of him from last weekend 
Travesty 路 2016-09-17 18:11:00 路 #648
^ My heart just melted finally someone understands me. 
Also strangely enough, guy in the video and I look quite a bit alike.
Also strangely enough, guy in the video and I look quite a bit alike.
aeroektar 路 2016-09-17 21:06:00 路 #649
(09-12-2016 11:24 AM)phluff127 Wrote: It shouldn't matter whether or not you bring a foreign girl back. Why? Because the only reason to get married is to have kids. Therefore, marry a girl and get her pregnant immediately and repeatedly. If you have 3 kids for instance, this will mean she will be unable to date anyone for about 6 years whether she lives on a farm in Poland or Miami beach. By the time the 6 years are up you now have 3 little rugrats running around, whom she loves deeply and must care for which is a full time job. Moral of the story- marry and impregnate.
I've seen a lot of men, good successful men who have their shit together, do exactly that and lose it all, the house, the kids, the dogs, the cars, everything they've worked for.
Even in a house in rural America raising 4 kids all day, you cannot shelter her from corruption, she has access to social media, the internet, TV, books.
She loves the kids, the kids love you, your a happy family, and if the wrong things influence her it won't matter at all.
In America she faces no consequences, just everyone else.
Travesty 路 2016-09-17 23:41:00 路 #650
^ I love these responses I don't even need to answer against these CareBear sentiments.