(05-14-2019 04:20 PM)kaotic Wrote:(05-14-2019 03:48 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote: I think what needs to be mentioned is that we live in a world in which its getting easier to build a nuke. Rouge nations like Iran, who supports terrorism, need to be ground in to dust.
Nah we don't need to fight Iran, unless you're just another neocon warmonger.
Guess you forgot how the US destabilized Iran back in the day, weird.
If my enemy had fucking nukes you damn well know I'll be trying my best to create nukes to defend myself with MAD.
Rogue nations like X (US & Israel) who support terrorism need to be ground in to dust.
(See what I did there?)
Quote:We were hit on 9/11 with an attack that killed 3,000 Americans. We do not need a suitcase or container ship nuke attack that could kill 300,000.
What does this have to do with anything? Besides that it was done by the Saudi's and hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed in Iraq & Afghanistan?
Yeah apples to apples right there
Quote:I understand Iraq turned into a shit show with Obama and the cost in dollars and cents is staggering. That does not in any way mean that war is never necessary.
Under Obama? Guess you conveniently forgot that Bush and Neocons invaded Iraq, oh AND Afghanistan, did I mention we're still in the Stan' ?
Obama did his fair share with Libya, Egypt, Syria, and the Arab spring, oh and Ukraine.
Please explain in detail why the war in Iraq was "necessary", I'd love to hear your answers on this.
Quote:I thought it was obvious back in 2008 or there abouts that we needed to roll into Iran (while we had the equipment and troops already there) and let Iraq burn. They are responsible for hundreds of American service members deaths.
Our troops were mismanaged, misused, and leaders were misguided.
That's why needed the surge after the "MiSSioN AcComPliShEd" speech.
Not to mention we fucked the Iraqi hierarchy up so bad that we let roving death squads kill eachother in sectarian violence for years.
Oh did I mentioned it ended with us leaving Iraq and then ISIS coming to power to which the US helped ISIS destabilized Syria and that shit show?
Quote:Fuck them. the world needs to know that we aint fucking around. If you start building nukes and have a bunch of terrorists fucking shit up, you get ground to dust.
Fuck NK too. I'd give China one more chance to get them under control. If they dont, than they can suck ass when it comes time to see who will control the New Korea.
FuCk IrAn & ChInA & nK (unless I have to go to war myself and fight them!).
Get the fuck out of here with your warmongering BS - noones buying it - unless you're bought and paid for by Isreal and the Saudis.
(05-14-2019 11:19 AM)kaotic Wrote: Looks like the whole Iran shitshow is going to happen.
-First it was saber rattling like usual
-Then "credible threats" from who knows where
-Deployment of more navy groups
-Bombers being moved into the theater,
-Then "sabotage" of ships local to the region
-Now he wants to deploy troops?
Fuck that, we do not need another middle east shit show on behalf of Israel & Saudis.
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(05-14-2019 07:22 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:
Left-wing outlet the Guardian complained about President Trump and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán “manspreading” during their White House meeting today.
https://summit.news/2019/05/13/guardian-...e-meeting/
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(05-14-2019 03:48 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote: I think what needs to be mentioned is that we live in a world in which its getting easier to build a nuke. Rouge nations like Iran, who supports terrorism, need to be ground in to dust. We were hit on 9/11 with an attack that killed 3,000 Americans. We do not need a suitcase or container ship nuke attack that could kill 300,000.
(05-14-2019 07:06 PM)The Black Knight Wrote: Frankly, the next GOP contender after Trump should run on that platform: "Peaceful separation." Everything else is small potatoes and secondary in the long-run and it's just going to get harder and harder each election cycle to pull off. That said, we are gonna need a real deal visionary for that to even have a remote chance though.
Goddamn it... I just wish I could get Trump and the GOP cucks to wake the fuck up.
(05-15-2019 06:29 AM)Hypno Wrote: hat tip to Anonymous Conservative.com
(05-14-2019 07:22 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:
Left-wing outlet the Guardian complained about President Trump and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán “manspreading” during their White House meeting today.
https://summit.news/2019/05/13/guardian-...e-meeting/
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(05-14-2019 07:22 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:
Left-wing outlet the Guardian complained about President Trump and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán “manspreading” during their White House meeting today.
https://summit.news/2019/05/13/guardian-...e-meeting/
(05-14-2019 03:48 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote: I think what needs to be mentioned is that we live in a world in which its getting easier to build a nuke. Rouge nations like Iran, who supports terrorism, need to be ground in to dust. We were hit on 9/11 with an attack that killed 3,000 Americans. We do not need a suitcase or container ship nuke attack that could kill 300,000.
I understand Iraq turned into a shit show with Obama and the cost in dollars and cents is staggering. That does not in any way mean that war is never necessary.
I thought it was obvious back in 2008 or there abouts that we needed to roll into Iran (while we had the equipment and troops already there) and let Iraq burn. They are responsible for hundreds of American service members deaths.
Fuck them. the world needs to know that we aint fucking around. If you start building nukes and have a bunch of terrorists fucking shit up, you get ground to dust.
Fuck NK too. I'd give China one more chance to get them under control. If they dont, than they can suck ass when it comes time to see who will control the New Korea.
(05-15-2019 01:09 PM)Deepdiver Wrote: Regarding Secession - a direct breakup of the USA - would be alien to the vast Majority of Oath Taking Veterans to protect and defend the entire USA from all enemies both foreign and domestic...
Rather than retreat from clusters of Marxist Socialist Communist treason in dominance in primarily Sanctuary Cities and States... I submit that forming new Freedom Loving Constitution supporting power centers in States that are already Live Free or Die Freedom lovers and expand nationwide is a more peaceful long-range plan for Freedom Loving Patriots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project
All organizations are subject to human flaws yet the FSP seems to be comprised of Ron Paul style Freedom Lovers and few if any White Power extremists whose presence was used to crush many militias during the Obamunists Marxist Socialist hate whitey reign.
Quote:The Free State Project (FSP) is a political migration founded in 2001 to recruit at least 20,000 libertarians to move to a single low-population state (New Hampshire, selected in 2003) in order to make the state a stronghold for libertarian ideas.
(05-15-2019 05:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: I don't want to answer for TBK but try to avoid thinking about it in terms of autistic moral quibbles which have no capacity to come about in a real geo-political jungle.
The reality is that a state or group of states would sue for secession and everyone in them when the curtains came down would be part of that new country. In all likelihood those who wished to leave would be allowed to do so while those who wished to enter would have to make their case on a basis of lineage or local holdings or perhaps merit.
Most minorities would be looking to exit rather than enter. They've gotten used to having a vast raft of welfare and legal/workplace/college protections that wouldn't exist by default in a new nation. Given that it would also be a time of extremely heightened tensions in-group preferences for hiring/service would be savage.
But tedious moralising about "is my 1/1024th black friend not invited" is a waste of time. Any secessionist movement is going to built on practicality, not moralistic autism, and any purges are almost guaranteed to be religiously based rather than racially.
(05-15-2019 01:30 PM)Uprising Wrote:(05-15-2019 01:09 PM)Deepdiver Wrote: Regarding Secession - a direct breakup of the USA - would be alien to the vast Majority of Oath Taking Veterans to protect and defend the entire USA from all enemies both foreign and domestic...
Rather than retreat from clusters of Marxist Socialist Communist treason in dominance in primarily Sanctuary Cities and States... I submit that forming new Freedom Loving Constitution supporting power centers in States that are already Live Free or Die Freedom lovers and expand nationwide is a more peaceful long-range plan for Freedom Loving Patriots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project
All organizations are subject to human flaws yet the FSP seems to be comprised of Ron Paul style Freedom Lovers and few if any White Power extremists whose presence was used to crush many militias during the Obamunists Marxist Socialist hate whitey reign.
From the Wikipedia:
Quote:The Free State Project (FSP) is a political migration founded in 2001 to recruit at least 20,000 libertarians to move to a single low-population state (New Hampshire, selected in 2003) in order to make the state a stronghold for libertarian ideas.
And of course they chose New Hampshire, which is 94% white. Of course.
Any idea why they didn't choose someplace like Delaware, Deepdriver? Delaware is a North Eastern state, very small population like New Hampshire. Why not Delaware instead of New Hampshire?
Delaware is only 68% white. I'm sure that had nothing to do with their state selection. New Hampshire is just naturally more "Ron Paul style Freedom Lovers" than what Delaware is. Give me a break.