Buttplug is calling oit Trump to debate traditional marriage. Like I said earlier, this guy is a troll trying to sink Trump with a homophobia smear.
Trump isnt this dumb but Libs dont use logic.

I don't give a shit about gay marriage but I felt a wave of revulsion looking at Buttgig and his "partner".

If I don't like it I guarantee the rest of America won't either.

Dude's toast, Deep State backing or not.

(05-06-2019 06:33 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 06:01 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 03:15 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  These big companies like Google and Facebook are prime targets for trustbusting, and everybody in the tech industry remembers the hell Microsoft went through in the 90s.

Indeed, Microsoft got massacred for weak stuff like bundling Microsoft Office with Microsoft Windows or setting Internet Explorer as the default starting browser, which were minor annoyances to consumers at best and small disruptions of a highly competitive market at worst.

Google and Facebook openly meddle in national elections and obstruct entire industries and nothing happens to them. Their behavior is the equivalent of Microsoft Windows rigging its OS to blow up power plants.

While the dissenting states certainly viewed it as only a slap on the wrist, the settlement can't honestly be characterized as a "massacre."

Further, IE wasn't just bundled, it was completely integrated with the operating system. So much so that Windows Updates wouldn't even work without the browser.

Those are both simply gross exaggerations. Microsoft was no angel in the situation.

Sorry, I'm European so I was referring to the cases I know from here, not the DOJ one. Namely, a series of €500+ million fines (for a total of €1.69 billion) issued by European Commission:

Wikipedia Wrote:On February 27, 2008 the European Union (EU) competitions commission announced its decision to fine the Microsoft Corporation €899 million (US$1.35 billion), approximately 1/10 of the company's net yearly earnings, for failing to comply with the 2004 antitrust order.[27]

The first decision in this antitrust case was given in 2004 citing that Microsoft withheld needed interoperability information from rival software companies which prevented them from making software compatible with Windows. The commission ordered Microsoft to provide this information. Microsoft agreed to this, providing the information for royalty fees of 6.85% of the licensee's revenues for the product on grounds of innovation (specifically, 3.87% for the patent license and of 2.98% for the information license). The EU found these royalty fees unreasonable and Microsoft was ordered to lower them. Microsoft complied with this, adjusting the royalty rates to 1.2% (changing the rates for the licenses to 0.7% and 0.5%, respectively) in the European Union, while keeping the rate the same for the rest of the world. The EU still saw this as an unreasonable rate, and Microsoft, two months after lowering the rates, reduced the rates yet again to a flat rate of €10,000 or a royalty of 0.4% applicable worldwide. Microsoft's royalty rates, which were deemed unreasonable for the period of 15 months between June 21, 2006 and October 21, 2007 are the cause for the fine. So far, the EU has fined Microsoft €1.68 billion in 3 separate fines in this case. This fine will go towards the European Union annual budget.

The European Anti-trust commissioner Neelie Kroes stated that the fine was "reasonable and proportionate," as the figure could have gone up as high as €1.5 billion, the maximum that the EU commission can impose. She also said that it should act as "a signal to the outside world, and especially Microsoft, that they should stick to the rules" and that "Talk is cheap. Flouting the rules is expensive." Although she also expressed hope that "today's decision closes a dark chapter in Microsoft's record of non-compliance with the Commission."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_..._2008_fine

EU is an abomination, but slapping around arrogant tech giants is one of the few things it does well. Why can't US do the same and slap Google with a, say, $20 billion fine for suppressing competition and illegal lobbying practices?

Because GAFA is deep state.

I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.

If Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Dont lose it yet. 4 more years of Trump and many old lib geezers will be dead. Also I believe some alt right figures have great lawsuits. Gavin and Loomer should win millions.
A few decisive victories and the libs will settle down.

(05-07-2019 11:27 AM)rpg Wrote:  Dont lose it yet. 4 more years of Trump and many old lib geezers will be dead. Also I believe some alt right figures have great lawsuits. Gavin and Loomer should win millions.
A few decisive victories and the libs will settle down.

The younger generations are much more liberal. No matter what, within 10 years the Democrats will run this country top to bottom.

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

I would say the massive increase in immigration cancels out anything positive he has done.

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

I'm not saying we will or will not go to war, I am saying the decision to go to war is incredible short sighted and that alone could cost Trump the election.

I don't agree with the Democrat party policies, but they are growing in popularity and the GOP doesn't really have an answer to it in about 5 to 10 years time. As the % of people working in the USA continues to decline, and it will due to technology alone, much less immigration, taxing the working class will impact less and less people.

(05-07-2019 12:59 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

I'm not saying we will or will not go to war, I am saying the decision to go to war is incredible short sighted and that alone could cost Trump the election.

I don't agree with the Democrat party policies, but they are growing in popularity and the GOP doesn't really have an answer to it in about 5 to 10 years time. As the % of people working in the USA continues to decline, and it will due to technology alone, much less immigration, taxing the working class will impact less and less people.

Honestly, I dont really follow the news much and wish I could watch less. Politics is the most retarded thing to spend a lot of energy on, in my view. All I know is I could confidently walk into a voting booth and pull the lever for TRUMP 2020 right now, and with 100% certainty, will not regret it.

I still get a chuckle thinking about all the loony freaks at the Jacob Javits center waiting for the "glass ceiling" to break. Trump gave me that. Nobody else could have. I will forever be grateful.

(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

Trump really likes the fact he hasn't started any wars. It really ups a lot of people's opinion of him. He won't fight Iran on that alone, though between Venezuela (which a lot of leftists think he WILL declare war on) and Iran, Iran is more likely.

(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency. His experience was in business, where deals are reached by working out how both sides will make money. Not politics, where it would be career ending for any dem to make a deal with Trump, no matter how beneficial it would be. Especially while that retarded investigation was ongoing.

Is he making deals with the elite (Jews)? Yes he is. What he is getting in return is not immediately apparent. They do have extremely powerful intelligence agencies, unlike the neutered US and UK agencies (they will take years to rebuild.)

Is he making deals with the Saudis? Yes he is. They can stabilize the oil supply, allowing us to stand up to other oil rich countries.

The NK situation doesnt look great but what harm was there in talking to little rocket man? We have had time to recalibrate our options and if we do need to move on them, well... at least we tried.

China. Nobody has stood up to them for decades. Economic warfare is real.

NAFTA. TPP. Paris Agreement. Iran Deal. Tariffs.

Trump has done a tremendous amount of good for every American.

NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

And why would they shut down the Strait of Hormuz?

Because of Trump's sanctions (an existential threat.)

Can the (((press))) spin that to justify the war? Possibly.

(05-07-2019 01:22 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:59 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

I'm not saying we will or will not go to war, I am saying the decision to go to war is incredible short sighted and that alone could cost Trump the election.

I don't agree with the Democrat party policies, but they are growing in popularity and the GOP doesn't really have an answer to it in about 5 to 10 years time. As the % of people working in the USA continues to decline, and it will due to technology alone, much less immigration, taxing the working class will impact less and less people.

Honestly, I dont really follow the news much and wish I could watch less. Politics is the most retarded thing to spend a lot of energy on, in my view. All I know is I could confidently walk into a voting booth and pull the lever for TRUMP 2020 right now, and with 100% certainty, will not regret it.

I still get a chuckle thinking about all the loony freaks at the Jacob Javits center waiting for the "glass ceiling" to break. Trump gave me that. Nobody else could have. I will forever be grateful.

I don't think following the news or politics is dumb, but I think allowing it to impact your life such as making you feel angry or depressed is very misguided.

Trump just hasn't really done anything for his base. But I give him one big pass, we can still buy ammo and guns to defend our families. When the Democrats take over this is the first thing they will go after.

All in all, if Trump wins or not, I don't think it changes the course of what is to come. And for that the best all you men can do is try to get away from the urban areas, become self sufficient, and find like minded men to support as things get worse and worse.

(05-07-2019 01:34 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

And why would they shut down the Strait of Hormuz?

Because of Trump's sanctions (an existential threat.)

Can the (((press))) spin that to justify the war? Possibly.

Hey on an unrelated note...

I think you should drop the ((( ))) thing. It's gotten kind of silly. Yes yes, we all know that ((( ))) is a secret code word for "jewish".

But now we all know the secret code, so it's not that cool any more.

I think if you just say "jewish press" or "jewish-dominated press" that will be just as good.

Thanks!

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency.

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

His biggest mistake early on was working with the GOP establishment; followed by pushing out Bannon 8 months into his term and then entirely diverting to Javanka on many things. That's why his technical majority of two years amounted to hardly anything MAGA getting done except tax cuts for multi-national corporations.

If Trump was smart, he would have played hardball with the GOPe. If it blew up into an open conflict with the GOPe, he could have used that as a rallying cry in the 2018 GOP primary mid-terms to push MAGA approved candidates.

Instead, Trump got hardly anything done despite having a technical majority AND we got Never Trumper cucks like Mitt Romney in the Senate in 2018. That's on top of losing the House. And THAT'S on top of him sitting on his ass doing fuck all to protect his people from Big Tech tyranny despite having direct access to tools (like the FBI, DOJ, and FCC) to help.

Whether he is inept or compromised (or both), I don't care anymore. Trump sucks and he has got to go.

(05-07-2019 02:37 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency.

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

His biggest mistake early on was working with the GOP establishment; followed by pushing out Bannon 8 months into his term and then entirely diverting to Javanka on many things. That's why his technical majority of two years amounted to hardly anything MAGA getting done except tax cuts for multi-national corporations.

If Trump was smart, he would have played hardball with the GOPe. If it blew up into an open conflict with the GOPe, he could have used that as a rallying cry in the 2018 GOP primary mid-terms to push MAGA approved candidates.

Instead, Trump got hardly anything done despite having a technical majority AND we got Never Trumper cucks like Mitt Romney in the Senate in 2018. That's on top of losing the House. And THAT'S on top of him sitting on his ass doing fuck all to protect his people from Big Tech tyranny despite having direct access to tools (like the FBI, DOJ, and FCC) to help.

Whether he is inept or compromised (or both), I don't care anymore. Trump sucks and he has got to go.

Once again I've said this MANY times, a lot of those groups are actively working against Trump AND the legistlative branch not the executive branch that needs to push Twitter's shit in by demanding they stop being a gay "private company" and pick either a publisher or a platform. Either way we win. As a platform we can't be censored period and as a publisher, yeah you can be censored but that will make people (and therefore revenue) plummet among other things.

(05-07-2019 01:58 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 01:34 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  Can the (((press))) spin that to justify the war? Possibly.

Hey on an unrelated note...

I think you should drop the ((( ))) thing. It's gotten kind of silly. Yes yes, we all know that ((( ))) is a secret code word for "jewish".

But now we all know the secret code, so it's not that cool any more.

I think if you just say "jewish press" or "jewish-dominated press" that will be just as good.

Thanks!

((())) = 6 characters
jewish-dominated = 16 characters

I rest my case.

(05-07-2019 02:37 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency.

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

His biggest mistake early on was working with the GOP establishment; followed by pushing out Bannon 8 months into his term and then entirely diverting to Javanka on many things. That's why his technical majority of two years amounted to hardly anything MAGA getting done except tax cuts for multi-national corporations.

If Trump was smart, he would have played hardball with the GOPe. If it blew up into an open conflict with the GOPe, he could have used that as a rallying cry in the 2018 GOP primary mid-terms to push MAGA approved candidates.

Instead, Trump got hardly anything done despite having a technical majority AND we got Never Trumper cucks like Mitt Romney in the Senate in 2018. That's on top of losing the House. And THAT'S on top of him sitting on his ass doing fuck all to protect his people from Big Tech tyranny despite having direct access to tools (like the FBI, DOJ, and FCC) to help.

Whether he is inept or compromised (or both), I don't care anymore. Trump sucks and he has got to go.

I agree that Trump miscalculated in working with the GOPe and sided with Jared Kushner and his daughter instead of Steve Bannon. Trump should have been more aggressive in pushing his agenda and even if he could get some, the GOPe denying him his other agenda items would have redpilled people alot faster. However, remember that Steve Bannon himself is no saint, especially that he too also has a strong relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu. So when Trump worked with Javanka, he chose them only because he knew them more than Steve Bannon and blood > water!

However, there is noone out there better than Trump who satisfies our interests, so Trump stays for the time being.