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Gmac · 2019-01-25 13:19:00 · #89056
(01-25-2019 12:59 PM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  There is a thing as being guilty by association and it’s been perfected right here in Murica it’s called conspiracy and that’s what the FEDS are going after by over charging so many Trump associates (squeeze them all until someone spills the beans). You can take potshots and insult my intelligence all day long but even a blind man can see exactly what the Feds are doing here. You’re right I do I have a bias I genuinely dislike like politicians and both shitty parties we have to choose from far right far left they all turn my stomach. The only difference is the lie theyre telling you on any particular day.

Yeah that's not how any of this works.
JohnKreese · 2019-01-25 13:25:00 · #89057
(01-25-2019 01:17 PM)eradicator Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:22 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  I feel like this whole Roger Stone thing is a ploy to make another movie. It'll be like "Letters to Iwo Jima" and "Flags of our Fathers".

"Get me Roger Stone" (good guys, Trump version)

and

"Get me Roger Stone!" (FBI version)

...I tried

Unfortunately that isn't how it works. If we get a film about any of this, it will be made by Michael Moore and be about how brave the CNN reporters and Roger Mueller are.

ohhh. So "Get REE Roger Stone", I guess.
ElJefe1 · 2019-01-25 13:26:00 · #89058
(01-25-2019 01:19 PM)Gmac Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:59 PM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  There is a thing as being guilty by association and it’s been perfected right here in Murica it’s called conspiracy and that’s what the FEDS are going after by over charging so many Trump associates (squeeze them all until someone spills the beans). You can take potshots and insult my intelligence all day long but even a blind man can see exactly what the Feds are doing here. You’re right I do I have a bias I genuinely dislike like politicians and both shitty parties we have to choose from far right far left they all turn my stomach. The only difference is the lie theyre telling you on any particular day.

Yeah that's not how any of this works.

Yea That’s exactly how it works when the FEDS want someone they go after any and everyone around that person anyway they can and they don’t just make threats they overcharge, harass in attempts to apply pressure on their target and the people around until they get what they want. Is that not exactly what’s happening here???
Captainstabbin · 2019-01-25 13:38:00 · #89059
Drudge headline. Trump better not fuck this up.

Quote:SOURCE: SHUTDOWN AGREEMENT REACHED
ANNOUNCEMENT SET FOR 1:30 PM
GOVT TO REOPEN 'TEMPORARILY'
NO WALL FUNDS
**TRUMP LIVE**
MrLemon · 2019-01-25 13:44:00 · #89060
(01-25-2019 12:13 PM)Gmac Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 06:27 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  Breaking news Just now Donald Trump aide Roger Stone arrested smh...: the whole damn squad is going to jail, you just make this shit up. Does no one else think maybe there’s a problem when soooo many people in Trumps inner circle are catching cases mostly for lying about Russia??....

Actual intelligent people understand this is not how things work (it's something you believe when you're biased). There is no such thing as guilt by association being a crime (at least not in America) and all of that nonsense (which has zero to do with Trump) has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Roger Stone was raided on "process charges?" Ridiculous. Which is why the judge set the bail so low and why Roger is already back on the streets.

Trumped up charges and kabuki theatre - aka a WITCH HUNT

Donald Trump isn't going to jail, now or ever. Any attempt to prosecute him will trigger retaliation on a massive scale, culminating, if necessary, in civil war.
ElJefe1 · 2019-01-25 13:46:00 · #89061
(01-25-2019 01:44 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:13 PM)Gmac Wrote:  
[quote='ElJefe1' pid='1928416' dateline='1548415637']
Breaking news Just now Donald Trump aide Roger Stone arrested smh...: the whole damn squad is going to jail, you just make this shit up. Does no one else think maybe there’s a problem when soooo many people in Trumps inner circle are catching cases mostly for lying about Russia??....

Actual intelligent people understand this is not how things work (it's something you believe when you're biased). There is no such thing as guilt by association being a crime (at least not in America) and all of that nonsense (which has zero to do with Trump) has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Roger Stone was raided on "process charges?" Ridiculous. Which is why the judge set the bail so low and why Roger is already back on the streets.

Trumped up charges and kabuki theatre - aka a WITCH HUNT

Donald Trump isn't going to jail, now or ever. Any attempt to prosecute him will trigger retaliation on a massive scale, culminating, if necessary, in civil war.
[/quote


Definitely he’s not going to jail but he’s a politician nothing gets the FBI off more than going after politicians.
budoslavic · 2019-01-25 14:04:00 · #89062

"...determined reporting and interpreting clues revealed in the course of events. That’s called journalism."
[Image: yeahrightsure.gif]

Funny how CNN put out a tweet about their "determined reporting" on the Roger Stone raid, but the Covington Catholic coverage blew up in their faces due to poor journalism (i.e., Nathan Philips isn't a Vietnam Vet). What a shitshow.
Sumanguru · 2019-01-25 14:24:00 · #89063
Looks like Trump caved on the shutdown, right after he caved on the SOTU. Is this *his* decision, or someone advising him? Did he just lose 2020?
fantome · 2019-01-25 14:26:00 · #89064
They are going after votes and trying to win the public court opinion. They don’t have SHIT on Trump. Russians would only leave a paper trail if they wanted. Maybe they just left enough crumbs to start this shitshow.
estraudi · 2019-01-25 14:33:00 · #89065
Caving on the shutdown to re-open for 21 days.
Not impressed.
He truly feels they can work out a deal he approves.
Must be bird-boxed to the fact Democrats are shit.
Libertas · 2019-01-25 14:35:00 · #89066
Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?
redonion · 2019-01-25 14:37:00 · #89067
(01-25-2019 02:35 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

Yup. Bad day for MAGA.

I think this is the end, barring some huge turnaround. But it needs to happen soon.

Prepare yourselves for the coming wars.
Mr. Accuride · 2019-01-25 14:40:00 · #89068
I smell a rat actually.
Government is only funded until Feb 15th.

So...he opens the government to give the State of the Union address then shuts it down again?
What is it that he really wants to get out in front of Congress at the SOTU?

And this statement: "If we do not get a fair deal from congress the government will shutdown AGAIN on February 14th"

Something is up.
Rotten · 2019-01-25 14:41:00 · #89069
He folds?????

Whatever backroom handshake deals that you thought you had with Democrats go away as soon as they get what they want.

If the wall doesn't get done this year, then it doesn't get done election year, Trump loses his base, and the Ben Shapiro leaders of the GOP say after Trump loses "wall is bad politics, please accept infinity immigrants from wherever and please work hard so we can fund their benefits."

This was a good hill to die on. Too bad he didn't do this against that Traitor Paul Ryan.
Johnnyvee · 2019-01-25 14:46:00 · #89070
Why wait three weeks to declare a national emergency? Is there anything that indicates that the Dems will all of a sudden cave, and agree to fund the wall? (No!) The last thing we need now is more drama, like this Stone thing.

Are these things a deliberate distraction to make us forget about the real policy changes we`re not getting? I`m not falling for the drama narratives anymore, it`s like a sitcom now. (And real men don`t watch sitcoms.)
Syberpunk · 2019-01-25 14:55:00 · #89071
(01-25-2019 02:37 PM)redonion Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 02:35 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

Yup. Bad day for MAGA.

I think this is the end, barring some huge turnaround. But it needs to happen soon.

Prepare yourselves for the coming wars.



PUA_Rachacha · 2019-01-25 14:56:00 · #89072
(01-25-2019 02:35 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

[Image: frustrated.gif]

Dude could've done this two years ago with a Republican-controlled Congress. But he listened to that rat Paul Ryan who said to hold off as it would be bad for the base.

This is Trump's Alamo. Either he stands here and fights it out until either being impeached or building the wall, or he becomes a lame duck two years before leaving office.
Libertas · 2019-01-25 15:06:00 · #89073
He needs to declare a national emergency after three weeks and use military funds to build it. End of story.

Some hack judge shopped court will issue an injunction but at least the effort will have been made. And it will eventually be overturned because the law is clear.

This was a shitty, shitty move.
Johnnyvee · 2019-01-25 15:15:00 · #89074
(01-25-2019 03:06 PM)Libertas Wrote:  He needs to declare a national emergency after three weeks and use military funds to build it. End of story.

Some hack judge shopped court will issue an injunction but at least the effort will have been made. And it will eventually be overturned because the law is clear.

This was a shitty, shitty move.

If the plan was to stall then I guess it was a good move. I`m not sure anymore. Probably we will see more stalling after three weeks have passed.
Syberpunk · 2019-01-25 15:17:00 · #89075
Lets say he did get the wall, won't it still be delayed because of people suing the feds for stealing private land? and the next president will defund it anyway half way through because it'll take so much time to physically build the damn thing.
Uprising · 2019-02-25 00:28:00 · #90176
(02-24-2019 04:21 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  He is a racist piece of shit because he viewed black people and others as inferior to white men. Showed the film Birth of a Nation in the White House openly. He was also a Klansman. Like other pieces of shit white nationalists, he was a white knight for women on behalf of "keeping the black man down". Putting the white woman on a pedestal sure was smart now, wasn't it?

If that offends you, please let me know so that I can add you to my ignore list. I have absolutely zero time these days to debate with trash like that.

Also, you should do more research on Wilson. He was not "pro ancestral homeland" like you think he was. He was easily one of the first Globalist presidents. He was one of the first to break from the Isolationist style of American power doctrine. He engineered America into getting into foreign European wars when public opinion wanted nothing to do with Europe. He claimed that Americans did not know better, than their betters (paraphrasing).

Also do not mock my educational background like that. There are plenty of historians more educated than you or me that hold values opposite of you and I. Feminist shaming language has no need here.

TravelerKai, I wasn't mocking your education background. That wasn't my intent and I'm sorry if it came off that way.

I have no issue with you stating facts about Woodrow Wilson or anybody else for that matter. For the record, no I don't support the KKK or any groups like them.

My issue, was your use of the word "racist". That was my only issue with what you posted.

I found a comment on YouTube a couple of days ago that puts into words better than what I ever could in regards to leftist language such as racist, white supremacist, bigot, ext. ext.

Quote:Well this has got more views than I ever expected.

SNIP..........

A few words on 'white supremacy'. White supremacy is a misnomer. That is to say, it is a label used to slur people of European ethnicity (aka white people) who try to stand up for their own interests. That's all it is.

Yes okay there are a few idiots who think that whites reign supreme over others and hate everyone else. You get idiots of all races. I don't hate any other race or nationality. But whites are being dehumanized daily and backed into a corner. Cry me some white tears, you may say. You deserve it for all the bad things your white ancestors did!

And you will only serve to make my point for me. Whites matter too.

Every race of people has their own homelands, except Europeans. Only we are expected to share our countries with everyone, while giving them special rights, which is never enough, we still get called racist every day just for existing.

It can't go on.

Now, obviously the USA is not the homeland of Europeans, but this country has historically been built up on European institutions with traditionally 85 - 90% of the country being European for most of its history, with Africans always at a steady 10 - 15% of the historical population. And yes, Africans who descend from the slaves have just as every right to reside in America as the Europeans do.

With that being said, before the usual suspects come out of the woodwork after reading that quoted YouTube comment to throw the normal leftists slurs at me such as racist, bigot, supremacist, white race troll, ponder this:

The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)
- https://cbc.house.gov/

The Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus (CAPAC)
- https://capac-chu.house.gov/

Congressional Native American Caucus
- https://mccollum.house.gov/about-betty/c...can-caucus

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute
- https://chci.org/

You'll notice, that these American political caucuses, are racial political caucuses. Yes, you can find political caucuses that represent their people on the ethnic level and those caucuses also include people of European ethnicity, Asian ethnicities, ext. ext.

However, the examples that I just listed, were political racial caucuses. Put in the search engine The White Congressional Caucus. You will find nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Now black Americans aside from the recent arrivals, I will give them slack, they don't know what their ethnic groups are. But what are the excuses for the Hispanics, Asians and Native Americans for organizing as a race of people at the political level?

These groups, are clearly putting the interests of their people, their racial group of people, at the forefront. Every single group in America is allowed to organize and advocate for their interests politically on the racial level, except for whites.

The word "racist" is not just a word, it's a weapon.

Do you know how whites in America said the N word openly for the longest time? The whites used that word to hold the blacks down. The N word was a form of power, it subjugated the blacks and held them down.

Today, leftists and people on the right as well openly use the R word, "racist". That word, for at least the past decade or so, has been used to hold the whites down. The R word is a form of power, it subjugates the whites and holds them down, in the same way that the N word was used to hold blacks down.

The R word is used to to shame whites, as a racial group, of the right to organize racially on the political level and as a cohesive group. This is at a time when every other racial group in America is allowed to organize, advocate and lobby for themselves on the racial level, politically.

TravelerKai, in 1984 America, you are allowed to use the R word openly and without fear of economic, monetary and societal consequences. But just know that every time you use that word, whether knowingly or unknowingly, you are complicit in helping to keep whites down and helping to subjugate us, in the same way that the N word was used against your people for so long in this country.
Bienvenuto · 2019-02-25 00:37:00 · #90177
(02-25-2019 12:26 AM)Supernova Wrote:  I don't think Booker has much of a chance. He'll be seen as to far to the left for the middle states I think.

Someone made a joke about him being white but I didn't get the humour.. I thought 'oh, he's Italian or something..'
at which point the scales fell from my eyes. Tucker Carlson said about him a while back "everybody says that he is a stuffed suit" that he's absolutely useless..

Once I thought he was white I immediately thought: "he's Italian or something? What a fucking idiot! what an absolute fucking clown!" The things he says, the way he talks, probably the stupidest man in mainstream politics. If I had a brother like that I would want him tested for every kind of brain impairment and disability so that he could get all the help he could get going through life.
Because someone that stupid is a liability to himself. He's an embarrassment public speaking..

Then he went back to being an identity politics 'person of colour' and just another fuckwit whose hate hoaxes and hate politics I have to endure on my google feed.

Funny how the Left has used colour to force us onto the defensive. Immediately 'not wanting to be racist'.

But he's a terrible candidate. Terrible..
Latinopan · 2019-02-25 00:47:00 · #90178
(02-10-2019 09:35 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  What would be the problem of militias patrolling the border?

Is there a law against that?

(02-24-2019 07:13 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I don't think Arizona is blue (yet). McSally was a fucking horrible candidate and she still only lost by about two points. Governor Ducey was reelected by a massive margin.

The biggest concern I have is Florida. It looks really good, but now it has a million new felon voters. Felon turnout is low, but Florida has such slim margins that anything can make a difference.

Trump got the Cubans in 2016 and most likely will get the Venezuelans too in 2020.
Bienvenuto · 2019-02-25 00:47:00 · #90179
(02-25-2019 12:28 AM)Uprising Wrote:  [quote='TravelerKai' pid='1944270' dateline='1551043260']

SNIP

Following on from above.. I guess its not my fight but -

Agreed as long as we can accept that Woodrow Wilson was potentially a racist. (haven't looked it up).

It doesn't bother me from this distance of time if he actually was or not, but I can see that it would bother others.

I personally think Hillary's racism was a problem. I think Obama's inverted racism was a problem. I think the Dems race plantation racism and anti-white anti-cis-male agenda is a problem.

But that shit doesn't get airtime on the MSM. What gets airtime is the anti-white 'RAYciisssm' you allude to.

Upside down clown world.
Uprising · 2019-02-25 00:57:00 · #90180
(02-25-2019 12:47 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Following on from above.. I guess its not my fight but -

Agreed as long as we can accept that Woodrow Wilson was potentially a racist. (haven't looked it up).

It doesn't bother me from this distance of time if he actually was or not, but I can see that it would bother others.

I personally think Hillary's racism was a problem. I think Obama's inverted racism was a problem. I think the Dems race plantation racism and anti-white anti-cis-male agenda is a problem.

But that shit doesn't get airtime on the MSM. What gets airtime is the anti-white 'RAYciisssm' you allude to.

Upside down clown world.

5 times. In 9 sentences, you used the word racism/racist 5 times. You have learned nothing from my post.
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