#FireKushner

(04-07-2017 05:35 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 08:19 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  I can't in good conscience use the word 'elites' in the way many here use it. I am from a background whereby I went to school with, and count as friends, many of those you would label as being part of the 'elite'. From a life time of staying at their houses, sharing institutions with them, and being considered a part of that world, I do consider a lot of the wackier stuff about 'elites' and their conspiracies to be fundamentally removed from reality, and divorced from reason.

Like any other group, there are some good ones, some bad ones, and some that probably go either way depending on whether you're in their strata or not.

You will notice, as will any fair minded audience, that I have not been the one to call any names, or cast any aspersions, though one or two have been cast my way in response. I have provided my thoughts, and my reasons for them. They have been substantiated by argument and reference to history, and are there to judge on their own merits.

If there are reasoned objections to the points I have made, then I have yet to hear them. 'Globalist shill' or the implication thereof, is about as close as you, or the others, have come to any kind of meaningful refutation. I'm quite open to debate, quite averse to being silenced by cheap slurs.

You went to school with elites? Well, why didn't you say so before?!

This changes everything! I'll be more than happy to notify respected journalist F. William Engdahl, the deceased Carroll Quigley, or Gary Allen and countless other brave souls who spent decades studying the inner workings and machinations of: ruling classes, Bilderberg conferences, and the Trilateral commission.

Fuck, now it's all null and void due to esteemed RVF member H1N1's groundbreaking revelation that not only did he attend school with elites but that "some of them are good people."

Ahem .... elites .... the true globalist elites is one thing, being around 1% or even 0,01%ers is something completely different. Even someone being best buddies with the Bushes would not necessarily be any wiser. And neither would you be if all your friends are billionaires.

I am certain that individual perception of elites and elites varies greatly between each and everyone of us.

And yes - when many of us talk about elites then they mean the group that Carroll Quigley is talking about and not jet-setters who have houses in the Hamptons and get drunk each day at 5pm on prime scotch.

Just remember, DJT is the master of 4D rhetorical chess in campaign mode. Governing and geopolitical action is a completely different ball game.

He's been billyclubbing the MSM for 40 years. Foreign policy practice, no so much and isn't infallible.

Anybody notice a huge sigh of relief on all the news anchors faces? They look at ease which makes me uneasy. GAY!

Did you notice how shitty he looked giving that speech last night? His eyes were strained beyond belief. Looked like he hadnt slept in days.

Maybe the chess move is since the wall is being stalled to go into war and have all the illegals sign up as conscripts and they can get immediate amnesty if they win.

^I know that is a terribly flippant and shitty thing to say but personally I need some levity around this.

Anyways, memeing is still fun.

Okay, everyone needs to just chill the fuck out already. And I mean it.

Look at the disinformation coming out of the press. Russia was notified. Russia was not notified. There were 0 casualties. There wer 6 casualties. There was 1 casualty. The missiles hit mainly strategic locations. Putin was in on it because the US warned the Russians. The US ddi not warn the Russians. The US was at fault because they warned the Russians but not the Syrians. Nobody was at the base. Somebody was at the base. Chemical weapons were stored at the base. Chemical weapons were not stored at the base, but the base was used to drop them on civilians. Because Assad was winning the war against insurgents. Or he was losing and got desperate. Because what's the reason to drop a bunch of chem weapons when you're winning. Unless the Obama regime doesn't seem to mind. But maybe it did. Who the fuck knows.

Point being, let's let this sit for a little while until more reliable facts come in. The only thing we know so far (I think) is that Assad didn't do it.

(04-07-2017 05:41 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

#FireKushner

It's not Kushner, why are you obsessed with jews?

(04-07-2017 06:01 PM)aphelion Wrote:  The only thing we know so far (I think) is that Assad didn't do it.

Do you think one of us here should relay this to the White House? They apparently still don't know.

(04-07-2017 06:20 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  

hehe - I'll agree with that.

(04-07-2017 04:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  < It is called tyranny, when the same agenda is continued by seemingly different rulers.

There is tyranny and there is believing utter horse shit.

On every alt media youtube video and twitter responding to this thing there are a lot of people all for it and calling out people for not being loyal.

Either Correct The Record has a new script or people have been genuinely brainwashed and cannot see for their own bias. This doesn't seem to be like CTR, its too good and it should be a a worrying prescedent.

"Aassad is bad man, must be replaced!" - No questions, no investigations, just feelings. Fuck feelings, investigate this shit before we have a million more active Jihad warriors at our throats.

The same people who are claiming this is good are the people who hate the fact we went into Iraq. Leaving me very confused on this.

It's mostly Shareblue shills with some really stupid people. Reading comments at Breitbart hurts my head.

(04-07-2017 03:08 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 11:24 AM)stugatz Wrote:  Also, someone clear something up for me. The media is going bonkers over how Gorsuch got nuked in and it's horrible - yet a quick look on Wikipedia shows me that Clarence Thomas was confirmed by an even narrower margin (52-48) and Samuel Alito was under 60 too (58-42). Is the sixty-vote rule for Supreme Court nominations just willy-nilly gotten rid of whenever, and nobody remembers?

The 60 vote rule is for any cabinet nomination - not just Supreme Court - but there are ways around this as you noted. If you have less than 60, the other side can fillibuster which basically means wasting time by reading the phone book, encylopedia, etc. That is really a nuclear option if you ask me, but it has a long precedent.

Clarence Thomas was basically an Affirmative Action hire - he really didn't have the standing to be on the Court when nominated, although you could probably say the same about Sotomayor and Kagan. He also has a white wife if I recall correctly and that was probably the unspoken reason for the opposition. Don't know if anyone remembers this but he had a former employee, Anita Hill, lodge some very implausible sexual harrassment claims against him.

Alito was a solid right winger when nominated, hence the opposition.

OK - these rules are confusing, I forgot all about "cloture". Apparently if you don't have the sixty votes and the other side can filibuster, you can avoid the sixty votes if you can get enough of the opposing party to agree that it's time to stop arguing and vote. That's pretty crazy if we couldn't even get a cloture vote.

Looks like this partisan smearing of the justices has been going on for quite a while, I had no clue until this week that it was going on under Bush. If I'm not mistaken, it started all the way back in 1987 when the Democrats smeared the hell out of Bork. Anyone here particularly informed on this? Maybe it started even before then.

(04-07-2017 06:08 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 05:41 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  ...

It's not Kushner, why are you obsessed with jews?

Wrong question. The correct questions to ask would be: is Jared Kushner a MAGA or a Globalist supporter? And should we trust him?

Personally, I just do not trust him because of his business relationship connections with George Soros in the past.

Even though I understood it was just "business", but why the hell should we trust someone who was involved in a business relationship with a Globalist like George Soros?

59 Cruise Missiles to obilerate one air field in Syria was a Message to Red Chi Communist President Xi Xin Ping and his circus clown client NKor Commie cuck Dim Dum Uuun. Genghis Khan Level chess now... From our CiC with Prussian Viking chieftains ancestry.
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I will know he is really serious when he uses Neutron concentrator warheads instead of just high explosives...

NBF Nuke Boats Forever

https://youtu.be/eAQtej2LhMg

I posted this in the Syria thread. Relevant here as well.

(04-07-2017 06:17 PM)Cobra Wrote:  What I know...

Even the most hardcore liberals I know are praising Trump for the bombing. This is no fluke.

What I think...

Some of you guys are drawing conclusions way too early regarding the outcome. If Trump wanted WW3, why would it have been a shitty airbase. Putin had to say that this was "escalation" for saving face, not because he's going to do anything. If that were the case, he would have already done something.

Let's not be propagators of pushing the fake news of WW3. There are variables that many of us are not considering.

Just politics. Checkmate!

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't trust Jared Kushner.

Perhaps I need to put on my tin-foil hat whilst writing this post, but I think it's important to remember (((Kushner))) paid a record price to acquire 666 Fifth Avenue, and according to a Breitbart article (sorry I don't have the link, as I'm on my phone) has been entrusted by Trump to help broker a peace deal in the Middle East...

Move over Obama, seems like we have a new Antichrist contender.

I'm only half-joking.

(Breitbart article was called "Five Delicate Problems Trump Trusts Kushner To Solve")

(04-07-2017 05:35 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 08:19 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  I can't in good conscience use the word 'elites' in the way many here use it. I am from a background whereby I went to school with, and count as friends, many of those you would label as being part of the 'elite'. From a life time of staying at their houses, sharing institutions with them, and being considered a part of that world, I do consider a lot of the wackier stuff about 'elites' and their conspiracies to be fundamentally removed from reality, and divorced from reason.

Like any other group, there are some good ones, some bad ones, and some that probably go either way depending on whether you're in their strata or not.

You will notice, as will any fair minded audience, that I have not been the one to call any names, or cast any aspersions, though one or two have been cast my way in response. I have provided my thoughts, and my reasons for them. They have been substantiated by argument and reference to history, and are there to judge on their own merits.

If there are reasoned objections to the points I have made, then I have yet to hear them. 'Globalist shill' or the implication thereof, is about as close as you, or the others, have come to any kind of meaningful refutation. I'm quite open to debate, quite averse to being silenced by cheap slurs.

You went to school with elites? Well, why didn't you say so before?!

This changes everything! I'll be more than happy to notify respected journalist F. William Engdahl, the deceased Carroll Quigley, or Gary Allen and countless other brave souls who spent decades studying the inner workings and machinations of: ruling classes, Bilderberg conferences, and the Trilateral commission.

Fuck, now it's all null and void due to esteemed RVF member H1N1's groundbreaking revelation that not only did he attend school with elites but that "some of them are good people."

Hold on a minute. Don't piss a golden opportunity down the drain.

If esteemed RVF member H1N1 says he went to school with the elites, then I believe him, and good for him. We should be embracing him, not shooing him away.

He didn't say what his level was at. It might be superfluous or he might be king of the free world. I tend to think that he is just sharing with us a certain sphere of influence that he might have enjoyed. He's not the enemy.

Stuff like this is Gold to us downtrodden Brits. We never get to speak to these people. It's pretty obvious that H1N1 is a cut above, and I mean that in a genuine way. Not snarky, not obsequious.

I know that H1N1 doesn't need idiots like me fighting his corner, but steady on!

He was just giving a glimpse in to life as he saw it. We might not even have to agree with him, but to just have a go at him for sharing his world with us? Not on.

It's really hard to fight the corner of someone like H1N1, because he will never look for outside influence to help him in his cause. So I'm not fighting his corner.

He certainly doesn't need me to help fight his battles. I'm not trying to. But I would like to hear what he has to say about current affairs if he can spare the time.

Don't get all knotted up by words like 'elites' or whatever. Everything is relative. I'm pretty sure his upbringing was 'elite' compared to mine. But he has shown me nothing but true respect in his dealings with me.

If he chooses to share a little bit of his world with us, then I say we should not scare him away. It sounds silly me saying this about a much more high post high rep high iq member. H1N1 is a rare gem on this forum. Maybe you need to be a Brit to understand that. Please don't take his words at such surface value.

I've got a lot of things that I would like to ask him, and he says a lot of things I do not understand. But I already agree with most of you. I want H1N1 to explain his position if he can, because I believe it will enrich me.

We don't need safe spaces here, but I just want to say I'm all ears for H1N1 to just elucidate on some of the points he has made. If he didn't make those points earlier for whatever reason, well I can understand that. But I like to be able to hear what a man has to say. H1N1 does not mince his words and does not shirk his position on things.

And if he is really 'elite' and comes from a good family, then so what? As long as he has the interest of his peers in mind, then that is all good. Nothing he has said or done makes me think this is not the case. We need interfaces with other worlds and strata of society.

We must not turn on each other. Every man here has a 'common purpose' and aim. We must be able to communicate. And then we will be able to judge upon the facts presented, or just the general 'feel' of things presented.

We are all brothers here. Until proven different.

I really take exception to several things he has said, but I will wait for him to answer himself. And I am sure he will, in good time.

General Mattis's thoughts on Syrian intervention in a 2013 video - interviewed by Fake News Wolf Blitzer at The Aspen Institute.




“We need to be very clear about our military end state, contributing to what political end state."
“Otherwise, you’re liable to invade a country, pull down a statue, and then say, ‘Now what do we do?’”

Well said by one sane voice.