(04-07-2017 10:10 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  It looked like Trump Derangement Syndrome mutated last night into a new form of the mental maladay, i'll call it DJTDS, Donald "Jewish" Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's quite disturbing how many of you were so quick to disavow, and cut and run after one news report you don't like. With supporters like some of you, who needs enemies?

And we couldn't say the same for those who completely ignore something that is claimed to not be significant, but in actual fact it is.

I'm not in the business of ignoring what my eyes, ears and experience tells me is a repeat of something dangerous and seen since 9/11.

Lets put it into a context of business.

Donald Trumps set a company's HQ on fire and come the next business week he is buying shares and helping their business along. Prior to that he said he would install fire exstinguishers.

In what world is this a good move? Break it down for me please. His daughter and step son have his ear and we're supposed to say "ok gaiz its ok, Trump Train cannot be co-opted!"

Its not about cutting and running but more stepping back and thinking what the hell just happened.

Within a 24hour time slot the US POTUS declared an act of aggression on a country who cannot defend themselves, is fighting Jihad elements and on top of that the "proof" was spread by known terrorist factions.

Break this down and give rational explanation other than "trump train choo choo get out the way shills".

< It is called tyranny, when the same agenda is continued by seemingly different rulers.

(04-07-2017 03:47 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Long live Bashar al-Assad... fighter of terrorism, Lion of the Desert, and unfailing courageous leader of his people.

Assad will make Syria great again. As you will see by the comments, Assad is loved all over the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzmjdLhM...LhMeNU#t=6

Assad has great photo game and style. Very fit wife too compared to majority of politicians. Met in London when (She's a UK citizen) if I'm not mistaken









Putin checking her out

(04-07-2017 03:07 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:00 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  I didn’t realize that our military knows what every aircraft in Syria is doing at all times. That’s impressive, bordering on hard-to-believe.

AWACS [/img]

Nailed it - there may not be a "no fly zone"

But you'd be damned sure AWACS and Early Warning Systems have their eyes on the sky there.

It's not hard to believe, just not as researched as SAM/AA/Radar deployments.

(04-07-2017 04:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  < It is called tyranny, when the same agenda is continued by seemingly different rulers.

^ Zelcorpion hits the nail on the head.

Quote:"You can't con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you don't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on."

- Donald J. Trump, "Trump: The Art of the Deal," 1987

I want to believe in Donald Trump. But I'm not one to put blind faith into anyone or anything. You can learn more about a person by their actions than their words. We know Trump has said all the right things (to get himself elected), now let's see if he'll do what he promised, what needs to be done, in order to justify the support of all those who voted for him, myself included.

(04-07-2017 03:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 02:51 AM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 10:20 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 10:17 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 10:16 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  I agree with Scott Adams, but I'm unnerved after watching FOX news this past hour, because there's no dissent. Every guest they've brought on thinks this was a good idea. Hannity likes it. Rubio likes it. Gingrich really likes it. Everyone likes it.

Yep. This is like March 2003 all over again.

We've learned nothing......

Seems to the consensus across all the networks:

Even Breitbart is cucking on this. Comments on the site appear to be disabled. Disabling the comments is a great way for the media to force their narrative. Will be curious to see what the polls all say about approval of this operation.

I watched MSNBC tonight. They weren't waxing ecstatic, but they were clearly pleased by this.

Each Tomahawk missile costs $1.4 million. Just in hardware, this operation cost the US taxpayer $82.6 million dollars. The Navy will replace those missiles in their inventory. Raytheon builds these missiles. Raytheon just got a $82.6 million dollar pay day.

It's safe to assume that the shareholders at Raytheon are among the same people who are shareholders at Fox, CNN, and MSNBC.

I hope you all realize that this is just the beginning - it will cost easily tens if not hundreds of billions. After the missiles there will be other interventions.

It was clear from the beginning that the globalists wanted Assad gone.

The Russian support won't help Assad now.

Also Breitbart comment section is pretty clear:

Stop haggling over the price of a few missiles. A million here, a million there, pretty soon you're talking real money!

Those missiles were bought and paid for years ago. Or maybe they weren't. Maybe your grand-children will have to pay for them. No one really knows. This little war cost nothing at all. It's just a topping up of the tankard that is public taxes to pay for private profits that kill innocent children. Ok, maybe only a bit of gravel and old Sukhois or Migs got it this time (doubtful), but who paid for the chemical weapons in the first place? That is if in fact, chemical weapons were even used. I've seen no proof of that yet, let alone who dropped them. Shouldn't we be calling the people who manufactured these monstrosities to book first of all, in a civilised society?

Money isn't real when it comes to bombs. War makes a mockery of dollars and pounds. Nearly a 1000,000000 Dollars for a B-2, and the US got 20 of 'em! That's a lot of potatoes your grand kids are going to have to pick.

Meh, a million for the odd Tomahawk. That money was already spent. No one pays for it. Then again, the future generations will have to pay for it. I've never got a straight answer from anyone how all of this insane war financing works, and I don't expect to get one now.

But Zel is right again, this is just the beginning. Because, you see, all those wonderful missiles have now been spent. So we need some more. No one really pays for them. It's imaginary money. Except to your grandchildren slaves. Sorry, great-great-grandchildren.

War is a racket alright. This is just a shot across the bows. I didn't really get my world war I predicted last week, but it's looking good for next week. I pray I am deluded and wrong.

I'll sign up for Hezbollah before I sign up against Russia.

(04-07-2017 04:03 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:47 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Long live Bashar al-Assad... fighter of terrorism, Lion of the Desert, and unfailing courageous leader of his people.

Assad will make Syria great again. As you will see by the comments, Assad is loved all over the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzmjdLhM...LhMeNU#t=6

Assad has great photo game and style. Very fit wife too compared to majority of politicians. Met in London when (She's a UK citizen) if I'm not mistaken









Putin checking her out

There's that blue eyed ay-rab again.

Better drop some bombs on this "non person" with the BLUE EYES.

I'd much rather trust this guy.



That's a European face I can really trust!

More European faces I like to trust:



Very European, looks just like those Swedish people.

Not like that filthy strange ayrab Assad and his blue eyes.

Fox News currently railing against the false flag idea. Entire MSM is in on it. Marching orders from above, label anyone questioning their story as conspiracy theorists and fake news.

(04-07-2017 01:03 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

Corrected for the sake of the whole world: "Putting 5,000-7,000 American troops in the ground in Syria to help take down ISIS." Then, once ISIS has been eradicated, negotiate a peace deal with (preferably) or without (if absolutely required by various allies) the legitimate president, Al-Assad...

(04-07-2017 04:26 PM)rainy Wrote:  Fox News currently railing against the false flag idea. Entire MSM is in on it. Marching orders from above, label anyone questioning their story as conspiracy theorists and fake news.

Since the establishment won't rest until we're in another fucking World War, I'm leaving this here for posterity...

Quote:"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?"

(04-07-2017 04:26 PM)rainy Wrote:  Fox News currently railing against the false flag idea. Entire MSM is in on it. Marching orders from above, label anyone questioning their story as conspiracy theorists and fake news.

Indeed - because information coming from terrorist infested areas is reliable and has been double-checked by the Snopes-fact checkers. The New York Times has even hired special fact-checkers who have googled the net and checked up on Wikipedia. After such extensive checking and back-checking, it was deemed that the former terrorist doctor interviewed by the terrorist on the US drone-kill-list must be speaking the truth. The facts are in - anyone else is just fake news - Wikipedia-confirmed news is right.

(04-07-2017 04:26 PM)rainy Wrote:  Fox News currently railing against the false flag idea. Entire MSM is in on it. Marching orders from above, label anyone questioning their story as conspiracy theorists and fake news.

Their average age demographic is 70 years old and less than a third of the public still trust them, they are irrelevant.

(04-07-2017 04:26 PM)rainy Wrote:  Fox News currently railing against the false flag idea. Entire MSM is in on it. Marching orders from above, label anyone questioning their story as conspiracy theorists and fake news.

Of course they are. Anything that goes against the ownership's interest is fake news or a conspiracy.

Don't forget Saudi royalty family member Al-Waleed bin Talal owns 6% of Fox News' parent company. Saudi Arabia wants Syria's government eliminated.

Look at Genie Energy. Rupert Murdoch is on the strategic advisory board and might have some ownership interest. They signed an agreement in 2013 with Israel to explore for oil in Golan Heights. Golan Heights is internationally recognized as Syrian territory occupied by Israel. Holy fucking shit of course they want Syria out of the way.

(04-07-2017 04:26 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:03 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:47 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Long live Bashar al-Assad... fighter of terrorism, Lion of the Desert, and unfailing courageous leader of his people.

Assad will make Syria great again. As you will see by the comments, Assad is loved all over the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzmjdLhM...LhMeNU#t=6

Assad has great photo game and style. Very fit wife too compared to majority of politicians. Met in London when (She's a UK citizen) if I'm not mistaken









Putin checking her out

There's that blue eyed ay-rab again.

Better drop some bombs on this "non person" with the BLUE EYES.

Al Assad has blue eyes and looks like De Gaulle, because he obviously has French blood in him, the blood of the French crusaders, engineers and Hospitaliers Knights who ruled over part of Syria (Homs and surroundings) for more than a century...

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51543...pid1144944

(04-07-2017 03:57 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 10:10 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  It looked like Trump Derangement Syndrome mutated last night into a new form of the mental maladay, i'll call it DJTDS, Donald "Jewish" Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's quite disturbing how many of you were so quick to disavow, and cut and run after one news report you don't like. With supporters like some of you, who needs enemies?

And we couldn't say the same for those who completely ignore something that is claimed to not be significant, but in actual fact it is.

I'm not in the business of ignoring what my eyes, ears and experience tells me is a repeat of something dangerous and seen since 9/11.

Lets put it into a context of business.

Donald Trumps set a company's HQ on fire and come the next business week he is buying shares and helping their business along. Prior to that he said he would install fire exstinguishers.

In what world is this a good move? Break it down for me please. His daughter and step son have his ear and we're supposed to say "ok gaiz its ok, Trump Train cannot be co-opted!"

Its not about cutting and running but more stepping back and thinking what the hell just happened.

Within a 24hour time slot the US POTUS declared an act of aggression on a country who cannot defend themselves, is fighting Jihad elements and on top of that the "proof" was spread by known terrorist factions.

Break this down and give rational explanation other than "trump train choo choo get out the way shills".

Go back and read my posts after that one, i've explained myself several times. On the surface I don't like it either, but i'm waiting to see how this plays out before jumping to conclusions and trying to play fortune teller. None of us really know what's going on that high up in the world govts, as much as we like to pretend we do, so it seems foolish to make snap judgments about what's going on right now. Give it a week or so and we will know a lot more.

I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst, as i've been working today on purchasing lead and gold and getting my financials in order in case of war. Bottom line as always is do what you can for yourself and your family, and keep your head above the fray without getting bogged down into the emotional quagmire. Lots of money to be made and lost either way this plays out.

(04-07-2017 05:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Come on - Assad just like Gaddafi were probably offered safe passage to a tropical island before the crap happened. Both rejected those offers, one is dead, the other on the way.

After Assad Syria will descend into a dysfunctional shithole where the moderate beheaders combat it out with the radical beheaders. It would not even matter if ISIS is "defeated" by then - the globalists will disband that group and it will crop up suddenly on the Iranian borders, because that is the next country on the chopping block.

Ah well.... unfortunately it is what it is.

Idi Amin knew what time it was!



He was given a very nice big mansion in Saudi Arabia, in fact.

At this point, Assad is probably saying 'oh fuck it, I tried didn't I?'.

H1N1, I do agree with you on your distaste with regard to Putin - he is no friend to the Russians and not to be trusted at all by the wider international community who view him in such a preferable light just by virtue of the fact he is a counterpoint to their own disingenuous leaders.

I don't trust him either.

But I am genuinely curious where you get your intelligence on Assad from, because as I see it, not one person in this world knows just what the fuck is going on in that Apocalypse Now place. And I know some pretty clued up people. And their viewpoints contradict each other for the most part. But never have I heard any of them speak with the certitude that you have. They have definite viewpoints, but it is all based on their research and therefore, in the bowels of Christ, might be wrong.

I've never been able to get to the bottom of it. I have heard many hard assertions and seen much hand-waving, but each time, when asked for sources, that a simple man such as myself can understand, no such sources were forthcoming.

I realise this is an extremely complex matter. I also realise I am of limited intelligence (certainly far less intelligent than you, for a start). You can probably sense what is coming next.

I just wonder if there is any way I can ask you for any kinds of pointers or further reading on this matter, without seeming somewhat snarky or putting you on the spot. That is not my wish to do so. I hold you in very high regard H1N1. And those are not empty words. You are the best of my countrymen, and when I criticise my other poor brethren, I do not include you in those crass statements that I make.

In a way this is something of an aside, but in another, it is right to the point. I know a thing or two about the Middle East, being brought up there, and following events since I left. I have never heard such a polarised and absolute point of view on Assad, such as you have presented. And I am genuinely intrigued.

Would it be possible to share the information that you are privy to? And by all means point out that I am a dumb-arse and that the information was all the time in the public domain, should I have cared to look. That is always a possibility too. As I said, I'm really not too bright, being somewhat mid-witted.

I still won't believe that Assad did gas his women and children though until I see proof. Even if he is proven to be a monster of the most ill repute -- that is not de facto evidence that he carried out this particular heinous act.

...

As for Idi Amin, is he still alive? Pretty sure he is still in Saudi if he is. Dictators never die, they just sink in to the mist... with the sleeping dogs, best left to lie...

And look what old Idi got away with.

Individually we have no power, but collectively we can speak out and let the President know that this is unpopular. Cernovich is rallying the troops to do this right now.

I just contacted the White House to urge the President to stay true to his word in the campaign that he would cooperate with Russia to fight ISIS and establish safe zones in Syria. We don't support regime change, building a coalition to invade, or a military occupation of Syria.

Take a minute and either call a drop Mr. Trump a line:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

(04-07-2017 04:49 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:26 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 04:03 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 03:47 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Long live Bashar al-Assad... fighter of terrorism, Lion of the Desert, and unfailing courageous leader of his people.

Assad will make Syria great again. As you will see by the comments, Assad is loved all over the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzmjdLhM...LhMeNU#t=6

Assad has great photo game and style. Very fit wife too compared to majority of politicians. Met in London when (She's a UK citizen) if I'm not mistaken









Putin checking her out

There's that blue eyed ay-rab again.

Better drop some bombs on this "non person" with the BLUE EYES.

Al Assad has blue eyes and looks like De Gaulle, because he obviously has French blood in him, the blood of the French crusaders, engineers and Hospitaliers Knights who ruled over part of Syria (Homs and surroundings) for more than a century...

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51543...pid1144944

Perhaps.

Or maybe it is because Levantines are originally European:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-61391.html

(((us)))

(04-07-2017 05:02 PM)rotekz Wrote:  

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Goldberg

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Obsessed with jews

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I was angry today because of this. I didn't support Trump for the country to get involved in pointless wars.

I never cared to even vote before Trump, and every politician I've seen or met has been sleazy, just like nearly every corporate executive.

I do know this; I've become an angrier person by following national politics so closely. I understood the cause, I began shifting from an internal to an external locus of control.

I don't recommend we bury our heads in the sand and ignore the issues we face.

What I'm going to do however is transition to focus on the sphere I can actually influence. My friends, my community, people I care about. That's what most of us I believe deep down are here for. A sense of community with like minded men.

At the end of the day you must be your own salvation. There is nobody, not Trump, not anyone that you shouldn't trust in more than yourself. If you believe in a higher power then know that part of them is in you.

It's like a story I remember from my old priest...

A terrible storm was approaching a man's house. He sees it's dangerous and they are warning to evacuate. He says: "No, I will stay God will save me."

As the storm came his neighbors began to leave and offered him a ride in their car. He said: "No, God will save me."

The flood got so bad he had to climb to his rooftop, he sees a helicopter drop a ladder he says: "No, God will save me."

Finally the storm sweeps him away and he dies. When he's in heaven he asks:

"Father why didn't you save me?" God replies. "I sent you a warning, a car, and a helicopter, what more did you need?"

Trump is not the savior of Western Civilization and he never was.

(04-07-2017 08:19 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  I can't in good conscience use the word 'elites' in the way many here use it. I am from a background whereby I went to school with, and count as friends, many of those you would label as being part of the 'elite'. From a life time of staying at their houses, sharing institutions with them, and being considered a part of that world, I do consider a lot of the wackier stuff about 'elites' and their conspiracies to be fundamentally removed from reality, and divorced from reason.

Like any other group, there are some good ones, some bad ones, and some that probably go either way depending on whether you're in their strata or not.

You will notice, as will any fair minded audience, that I have not been the one to call any names, or cast any aspersions, though one or two have been cast my way in response. I have provided my thoughts, and my reasons for them. They have been substantiated by argument and reference to history, and are there to judge on their own merits.

If there are reasoned objections to the points I have made, then I have yet to hear them. 'Globalist shill' or the implication thereof, is about as close as you, or the others, have come to any kind of meaningful refutation. I'm quite open to debate, quite averse to being silenced by cheap slurs.

You went to school with elites? Well, why didn't you say so before?!

This changes everything! I'll be more than happy to notify respected journalist F. William Engdahl, the deceased Carroll Quigley, or Gary Allen and countless other brave souls who spent decades studying the inner workings and machinations of: ruling classes, Bilderberg conferences, and the Trilateral commission.

Fuck, now it's all null and void due to esteemed RVF member H1N1's groundbreaking revelation that not only did he attend school with elites but that "some of them are good people."

(04-07-2017 11:50 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  ..snip..

Instead of looking and seeing what's right before your eyes, we tend to see what we want to see.

..snip..

As per part of the spiritual revolution -

"I see only what I wanna see"