Guys, a lot of liberals and minorities are actually climbing on the Trump Train. Like I mentioned, the riots and the outrageous rhetoric of the left are doing us a favor.

Basically, anyone who doesn't think Trump is "literally Hitler" or down to block an interstate are thinking "...wait, what?"

I also think the very fact that Trump WON, which many people did not think was possible, was enough to change people's perception of him.

Think of it this way. You're sitting at the bar having a drink, when a guy walks up to the hottest chick in the place and says "nice tits". You're probably thinking, this guy has balls, but there's no way that works.

If you look over ten minutes later and see them making out in the corner, now you're thinking "damn, this guy is good".

Winning took Trump from a guy who has a lot of balls and money, to a guy who's got balls, money, and is smart as fuck. People are afraid of uncontrolled strength, but they respect calculated strength.

If you like manga, somebody did this long reinterpretation of the Second Debate...

(11-10-2016 10:59 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:46 PM)cibo Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:43 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:41 PM)cibo Wrote:  Honestly, I hate people always proposing term limits.

It's one of those sounds good on paper but never works out in practice.

What happens is you end up with an assembly line of people coming in and learning the job. Once they get experienced, they get replaced.

This results in political parties becoming stronger relative to elected officials. It also means that to get a new job you have to kiss the party's ass and do whatever is on the party platform when you transition in/out of your current position.

As opposed to what - relentless populism and near-dictatorial conditions under FDR, who casually ignored the custom of term limitations and whose reign prompted the Constitutional amendment that brought term limitations in for the Presidency?

You can vote people out of office.

Further, you can look at california to see what happens you have relentless term limits on everything. There's probably a middle ground between 2 terms and infinity but do realize you're increasing the strength of the establishment parties in a different way.

Someone like Sessions coming out and supporting Trump would not happen as often in a situation when it would impact his career further down the line. Because he has a stable senate seat, he can take unpopular positions within his party.

I respect and take your point, but in my view you should only trust the judiciary with effective life appointments. (EDIT: Indeed there seems to, respectfully, be something of a contradiction in your argument: you say that you can always vote a person out, but then go on to say it's good that some Senators have stable, i.e. safe seats, i.e.e seats that they can't be turfed out of, because then they can take unpopular positions.)

In Australia we had a couple of runs with long-sitting Prime Ministers, who don't have any term limitations: Menzies and Howard. Menzies was conservative, but he also retarded our development as a Pacific nation rather than a British one. Howard was a good Prime Minister, but when he lost - thus exposing us to the joys of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd administration and a hung Parliament - it was in part because the Liberals had nobody left of his experience and because they'd started knifing each other in the back to get the top job when he retired.

Without taking a massive survey sample of history, there seem to be very few longrunning rulers who manage to safely pass their legacies on. Vigour in ruling lines seems to be correlated with relative shortness of successive reigns. Queen Victoria, for example, was the longest-reigning British Queen until our current Lizzie came along. When she died people had literally forgotten all the ceremonies for installing a new monarch, and her son Edward VII oversaw the last decline of the British Empire. But as I say this is hardly an exhaustive survey.

My position isn't a contradiction. Voting channels the people's preferences into real power. For the politicians that are popular, they can take their popular support from the people to tell the party what to do. It results in a politician that fights for his district and can take stands against the rest of the party. For shitty politicians, they get in line with the people or they get kicked out. Why bother with term limits since the people already have a method to enforce politicians bad behavior? This is a unique feature of the american system in comparison to parliamentary systems since ours is candidate focused not party focused.

The real problem in Washington is the revolving door of lobbyists and public office, constant need for money to run campaigns,and most of the career bureaucrats. These result in undue influence which we the voters cant do shit about since they're isolated from voting mechanisms.

@scott_foval has been suspended from Twitter, possibly due to this tweet. #TrumpProtest

(11-10-2016 10:24 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:16 PM)Adonis Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 09:48 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/bos...esign.html

Quote:If you voted for Donald Trump, you may not feel welcomed at Grubhub.

The CEO of Grubhub, an online food delivery service, sent a company wide email Wednesday suggesting employees who agree with President-elect Donald Trump’s behaviors and his campaign rhetoric should resign.

“If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here,” wrote Matt Maloney, Co-Founder of Grubhub. “We do not tolerate hateful attitudes on our team."

“I absolutely reject the nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump and will work to shield our community from this movement as best as I can,” Maloney wrote about Trump’s supporters.

“I want to reaffirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States.”

They are getting DESTROYED on Twitter, he deleted some tweets and is trying to deflect and do a stealth retract without apologizing.

Just shows that you can be a CEO of a tech startup, probably very skilled at programming and business, yet be a complete idiot when it comes to social awareness.

I don't use GrubHub, but I can appreciate taking the simple idea of food delivery and finding a technical way to disrupt the industry. But half of the country just voted Trump, and insulting half of your potential customers is horrible business practice.

Thought about this some more, was a big customer in the past.

Primarily city based. I bet their biggest markets layover perfectly with the blue urban centers on the voting map. They pissed on half the country but only about 15%, at best, of their target market.

However, the company is dead to rights anyways. Dozens of competitors are popping up and have been for years. Race to the bottom at this point B/C they didn't pivot their customer funnel and first mover advantage into more monopolistic. The culture there tanked very quickly after they IPO'd.

When companies go social activism, their R&D department is already closed up. The activism is their product now. It doesn't matter how he wants his team to act. What matters is how his suppliers and customers perceive him.

Just goes to show, our tech autists are better than their tech autists.

(11-10-2016 11:29 PM)cibo Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:59 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:46 PM)cibo Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:43 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:41 PM)cibo Wrote:  Honestly, I hate people always proposing term limits.

It's one of those sounds good on paper but never works out in practice.

What happens is you end up with an assembly line of people coming in and learning the job. Once they get experienced, they get replaced.

This results in political parties becoming stronger relative to elected officials. It also means that to get a new job you have to kiss the party's ass and do whatever is on the party platform when you transition in/out of your current position.

As opposed to what - relentless populism and near-dictatorial conditions under FDR, who casually ignored the custom of term limitations and whose reign prompted the Constitutional amendment that brought term limitations in for the Presidency?

You can vote people out of office.

Further, you can look at california to see what happens you have relentless term limits on everything. There's probably a middle ground between 2 terms and infinity but do realize you're increasing the strength of the establishment parties in a different way.

Someone like Sessions coming out and supporting Trump would not happen as often in a situation when it would impact his career further down the line. Because he has a stable senate seat, he can take unpopular positions within his party.

I respect and take your point, but in my view you should only trust the judiciary with effective life appointments. (EDIT: Indeed there seems to, respectfully, be something of a contradiction in your argument: you say that you can always vote a person out, but then go on to say it's good that some Senators have stable, i.e. safe seats, i.e.e seats that they can't be turfed out of, because then they can take unpopular positions.)

In Australia we had a couple of runs with long-sitting Prime Ministers, who don't have any term limitations: Menzies and Howard. Menzies was conservative, but he also retarded our development as a Pacific nation rather than a British one. Howard was a good Prime Minister, but when he lost - thus exposing us to the joys of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd administration and a hung Parliament - it was in part because the Liberals had nobody left of his experience and because they'd started knifing each other in the back to get the top job when he retired.

Without taking a massive survey sample of history, there seem to be very few longrunning rulers who manage to safely pass their legacies on. Vigour in ruling lines seems to be correlated with relative shortness of successive reigns. Queen Victoria, for example, was the longest-reigning British Queen until our current Lizzie came along. When she died people had literally forgotten all the ceremonies for installing a new monarch, and her son Edward VII oversaw the last decline of the British Empire. But as I say this is hardly an exhaustive survey.

My position isn't a contradiction. Voting channels the people's preferences into real power. For the politicians that are popular, they can take their popular support from the people to tell the party what to do. It results in a politician that fights for his district and can take stands against the rest of the party. For shitty politicians, they get in line with the people or they get kicked out. Why bother with term limits since the people already have a method to enforce politicians bad behavior? This is a unique feature of the american system in comparison to parliamentary systems since ours is candidate focused not party focused.

The real problem in Washington is the revolving door of lobbyists and public office, constant need for money to run campaigns,and most of the career bureaucrats. These result in undue influence which we the voters cant do shit about since they're isolated from voting mechanisms.

You're not accounting for gerrymandering, among other things. My US representative is a piece of shit, but she just won her 16th term in office. Why? Because her district looks like an octopus on the map.

It is absolutely ridiculous for members of congress in either house to be there for decade after decade. That was never the intention of the founding fathers, and there's no way they will stay connected to the real world when they have to suffer none of the consequences of their actions. Congress routinely exempts itself from laws that apply to the rest of us, as a small example of that.

The fact is, given the real problems that we have right now, establishing term limits is a good solution. Maybe you disagree in the abstract, but the real world is where we live. The system we have is a disaster. I seriously doubt it will make things worse if politicians know going in that they're not making a career of their position.

(11-10-2016 11:52 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 11:29 PM)cibo Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:59 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:46 PM)cibo Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 10:43 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  As opposed to what - relentless populism and near-dictatorial conditions under FDR, who casually ignored the custom of term limitations and whose reign prompted the Constitutional amendment that brought term limitations in for the Presidency?

You can vote people out of office.

Further, you can look at california to see what happens you have relentless term limits on everything. There's probably a middle ground between 2 terms and infinity but do realize you're increasing the strength of the establishment parties in a different way.

Someone like Sessions coming out and supporting Trump would not happen as often in a situation when it would impact his career further down the line. Because he has a stable senate seat, he can take unpopular positions within his party.

I respect and take your point, but in my view you should only trust the judiciary with effective life appointments. (EDIT: Indeed there seems to, respectfully, be something of a contradiction in your argument: you say that you can always vote a person out, but then go on to say it's good that some Senators have stable, i.e. safe seats, i.e.e seats that they can't be turfed out of, because then they can take unpopular positions.)

In Australia we had a couple of runs with long-sitting Prime Ministers, who don't have any term limitations: Menzies and Howard. Menzies was conservative, but he also retarded our development as a Pacific nation rather than a British one. Howard was a good Prime Minister, but when he lost - thus exposing us to the joys of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd administration and a hung Parliament - it was in part because the Liberals had nobody left of his experience and because they'd started knifing each other in the back to get the top job when he retired.

Without taking a massive survey sample of history, there seem to be very few longrunning rulers who manage to safely pass their legacies on. Vigour in ruling lines seems to be correlated with relative shortness of successive reigns. Queen Victoria, for example, was the longest-reigning British Queen until our current Lizzie came along. When she died people had literally forgotten all the ceremonies for installing a new monarch, and her son Edward VII oversaw the last decline of the British Empire. But as I say this is hardly an exhaustive survey.

My position isn't a contradiction. Voting channels the people's preferences into real power. For the politicians that are popular, they can take their popular support from the people to tell the party what to do. It results in a politician that fights for his district and can take stands against the rest of the party. For shitty politicians, they get in line with the people or they get kicked out. Why bother with term limits since the people already have a method to enforce politicians bad behavior? This is a unique feature of the american system in comparison to parliamentary systems since ours is candidate focused not party focused.

The real problem in Washington is the revolving door of lobbyists and public office, constant need for money to run campaigns,and most of the career bureaucrats. These result in undue influence which we the voters cant do shit about since they're isolated from voting mechanisms.

You're not accounting for gerrymandering, among other things. My US representative is a piece of shit, but she just won her 16th term in office. Why? Because her district looks like an octopus on the map.

It is absolutely ridiculous for members of congress in either house to be there for decade after decade. That was never the intention of the founding fathers, and there's no way they will stay connected to the real world when they have to suffer none of the consequences of their actions. Congress routinely exempts itself from laws that apply to the rest of us, as a small example of that.

The fact is, given the real problems that we have right now, establishing term limits is a good solution. Maybe you disagree in the abstract, but the real world is where we live. The system we have is a disaster. I seriously doubt it will make things worse if politicians know going in that they're not making a career of their position.

Then fix the gerrymandering. You think term limits are going to solve shitty districting? You're just going to get another political boss that will be in that district year after year.

California eventually created a bipartisan commission and dealt with that issue because that was the other part of our term limit problem. We actually rammed through a lot of election system changes the last decade since everything that is taking place at the federal level happened in california for years.

(11-10-2016 11:21 PM)Enigma Wrote:  Guys, a lot of liberals and minorities are actually climbing on the Trump Train. Like I mentioned, the riots and the outrageous rhetoric of the left are doing us a favor.

Basically, anyone who doesn't think Trump is "literally Hitler" or down to block an interstate are thinking "...wait, what?"

I also think the very fact that Trump WON, which many people did not think was possible, was enough to change people's perception of him.

Think of it this way. You're sitting at the bar having a drink, when a guy walks up to the hottest chick in the place and says "nice tits". You're probably thinking, this guy has balls, but there's no way that works.

If you look over ten minutes later and see them making out in the corner, now you're thinking "damn, this guy is good".

Winning took Trump from a guy who has a lot of balls and money, to a guy who's got balls, money, and is smart as fuck. People are afraid of uncontrolled strength, but they respect calculated strength.

I'm seeing more or less two reactions. A lot of them are going into hysterics and seem to think they can cry their way into getting this reversed.

The others actually watched his acceptance speech and meeting with Obama and are rapidly realizing that he's.....not an insane lunatic.

(11-10-2016 09:54 PM)Oz. Wrote:  Angela Merkel's Message to Trump

Quote:“Germany and America are connected by values of democracy, freedom and respect for the law and the dignity of man, independent of origin, skin color, religion, gender, sexual orientation or political views,” she said in a statement, adding: “I offer the next President of the United States close cooperation on the basis of these values.”

The refugees must be acting civilly

(11-10-2016 11:35 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  @scott_foval has been suspended from Twitter, possibly due to this tweet. #TrumpProtest

Sure that's not just a troll account? If it was really his account, wouldn't it have that verified thing?

^ It's my understanding Scott Foval quit Twitter soon after the Project Veritas videos were released. It's a phony account.

Balls....this guy has balls and is a lone wolf against that huge herd of sheep.

I want to find this guy and buy him a beer.



http://www.fox4news.com/news/216822789-story

(11-11-2016 12:06 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 11:35 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  @scott_foval has been suspended from Twitter, possibly due to this tweet. #TrumpProtest

Sure that's not just a troll account? If it was really his account, wouldn't it have that verified thing?

Most likely it's a troll account. The key is the pictures of the anti-Trump protesters that are holding the yellow signs, which tell us one thing: George Soros.

(11-10-2016 11:28 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  If you like manga, somebody did this long reinterpretation of the Second Debate...

Jesus Super Saiyan Christ, it feels like my whole childhood led to that shit.

There's so much winning in a Trump presidency that it's important to remember the small things, like Black Lives Matter. These disgusting freaks burned down poor black neighborhoods, torching and looting at the behest of their masters without a thought for the people who actually had to live there. They were shielded from their crimes by a corrupt Justice Department acting at the behest of Obama. But Trump is running things now, and he's not going to be lenient towards them at all. He remembers all the times they threatened or hurt his supporters, and I'm sure he remembers the BLM assassination attempt that shut down his Chicago rally during the primaries.

A Trump-led FBI and DoJ are about to fall on them with the fury of a thousand angry lions, and they will be torn to shreds. I'm talking RICO prosecutions out the ass. I'm talking jail times stretching into decades. Backbone-shattering fines. There will be nothing left.

If you want a preview of what's about to happen to every one of these assholes, from the looter who threw a brick through the window of the only place the locals could buy groceries for three miles around, to the manager who bused him in, all the way up to the big bosses who run the whole thing...

Please to enjoy this video of Black Lives Matter supporters being run down by cars, set to catchy Eurodance!

(11-09-2016 07:05 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  I swear that this really happened.

So, while the bar I was at across from the Trump Hotel in DC the energy went out of the room after Florida and emptied after Wisconsin, I figured people would go to bed, get up in the morning, and go to work like every other day.

I work in downtown DC and I noticed on the way in from Arlington the subway was not as crowded as I suspected. This time of year no one in on vacation and the trains are usually packed.

"Hmm ... " I thought, "that's odd."

Then after a busy morning I decided to take a short walk at lunch to get some fresh air on a lovely day. After a minute, I looked around and realized, "Where are all the people?"
Now, to someone not familiar with DC the streets and roads would have looked quite busy, but there were noticeably less people walking and cars on the street, even more so than on a Jewish Holiday or a Federal Holiday not usually observed by private sector employers such as Columbus Day.

"Nah, it couldn't be" I thought "couldn't be because of the election. Trump is good but nobody is that good. Maybe I should check out some usually busy restaurants."

I checked out 3 that are normally always packed with long lines. I saw no lines. They were half empty!

"My God, he rattled people that badly that they took the day off or telecommuted. The Trump Stumped DC residents."

Now maybe a metro line broke down (more than usual) and I didn't see the news, but google news & twitter isn't showing anything.

Maybe by simply winning last night, Donald Trump has already begun to #DrainTheSwamp.

OMG! It wasn't just my perception or just my home town.

Captain Capitalism (aka Aaron Clarey) saw the the same thing in MINNEAPOLIS!!!

link here

Seriously, read the whole story. Cappy Cap, while always entertaining, is in fine form.

Choice quote:

"There are so many weak, emotionally fragile people that a democratic election triggered them to the point they had to call in sick for a day. "

Also, Fender_Bender, who hasn't made it to 250, has another great meme that I am honored to share.



We have the best <250'ers.

Figures. Anti-Trump Protesters Were Bussed in to Austin #FakeProtests







http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/...eprotests/

Get rid of Soros and people like him and Trump can win reelection by default.

(11-10-2016 09:45 PM)rpg Wrote:  Obama might be an incompetent moron but he still put Osama Bin Laden at the bottom of the ocean. Got to give credit where credit is due. He wacked that motherfucker with the best special forces we have at our disposal.

Are you kidding me? Our intel community and special forces put Obama down. Zero credit can go to the man for this. The only real credit I give Obama for given his 8 worthless years in office is blocking a few companies from merging that would have decreased competition. That's it. The sum total of worthwhile accomplishments. Monumental failure doesn't begin to describe him.

Might be time for a post election riot thread.

Portland anti-Trump protest declared a riot

Quote:PORTLAND, Ore. — Portland Police have declared the Portland anti-Trump protest Thursday night a riot, after reports of criminal and dangerous activity.

The third day of the protest started around 5 p.m. at Pioneer Courthouse Square. Thousands of people marched over the Hawthorne Bridge, through the Lloyd Center. At that point, the protest appeared to break apart when some people began using bats to bash in cars at a car dealership.

Dozens of people who are describing themselves as anarchists and radicals then moved on to the Pearl District around 9 p.m. They've broken windows of several businesses and restaurants, and bashed in a transformer in an effort to cut electricity. Police have said rioters have also thrown projectiles at officers.

Officers in riot gear and Oregon State troopers have responded to the North Park Blocks area, where an apparent showdown between rioters and officers is imminent.

At least three people have been taken into custody. No injuries have been reported. Portland Police have told peaceful protesters to head to Pioneer Courthouse Square for their own safety.

KATU News Facebook


chopper cam
http://www.kptv.com/category/233600/watc...o-stream-2

iffy stream
http://koin.com/2016/11/10/anti-trump-pr...-11102016/

kgs news
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/more-trump.../350855158

pdx scanner feed
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/20613

^Oregon is the liberal hypocrisy capital of America. This coming from a place that once barred blacks from moving to the state.

(11-11-2016 08:09 PM)8ball Wrote:  WTF?

e-verify is currently available as an option? So over the summer when i had to present my ssn card and proof of residence/citenzeship to new employer, have done this for every job in the US, you telling me that other employers don't do this? What kind of companies are these? I am very curious...

Yes, it is currently an optional program. Once a company starts using it they have to use it for every new hire, however there is no mandate that a company starts it up. Takes an admin assistant level person less than 30 minutes to complete the entire process.

I can't think of a less painful, more obvious way to help Joe American than making this mandatory.

@parcelus: Fuck that mate, Central Americans are worse than Mexicans. Those niggas don't know the basics of hygiene and tend to have tapeworms coming out of their ass. No kidding dude, one time this dude told me back in El Salvador they would take out tapeworms out of each others ass....and it's the not the first Salvadorian who has told me that. These guys have a bigger victim complex than Mexicans...you know, because Mexicans have all the good illegal jobs and they don't. Also, they will pop 5+ kids and then start gangs like MS13. CA women look like little ewoks who use "zipote" instead of "niño" and "vos" as a noun. Even Mexico is building a southern wall to keep them out.

So basically it's a trade off? Our tapeworm illegals for your rapefugees? I guess we can prescreen them, we keep the hot ones.

Average central american woman...they wear jeans with loafers or some chunky wedges:

I wrote an article describing what Trump's victory means for us:

Quote:The celebrations have ended and we’ve all come to absorb the fact that Donald Trump is our next President, an outcome that many of us have aggressively worked for in the past several months. Now that we’ve gotten what we wanted, it’s time to describe exactly how a Trump presidency will improve our standing.

http://www.returnofkings.com/100669/what...ns-for-men