(09-17-2016 08:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:  What are you talking about? I'm meeting Jeff Sessions today.

I just looked up his Wikipedia page. This is from the first paragraph.

Quote:An ethical dwarf, there is nothing redeeming about this man, and he does more damage to the country in a day that most people could possibly do in a lifetime.

People act like Trump is behind some iron wall. His NYC staff isn't more than 50-75 paid people.

It would be easier getting a email up that command chain vs (insert random large) Company.

They dip the toes in the water a lot and use to temp gauge from the public to project positions. They likely read any email that isn't hate/spam. If anything sending a old school certified letter would likely get more attention as nobody does that much anymore.

(09-17-2016 07:55 AM)Suits Wrote:  Yes, it's just a joke, but it's a joke that will cement the impression of Sickly Hillary into people's minds.

That's the image that'll be at the forefront of their minds when they go to vote.

I read the Scott Adams tweet and it's almost like it's implied that Fallon was decked out in that mask the whole time.

The video shows that it's more of a joke than anything.

But I understand your point.

(09-17-2016 08:14 AM)Sam Malone Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 07:55 AM)Suits Wrote:  Yes, it's just a joke, but it's a joke that will cement the impression of Sickly Hillary into people's minds.

That's the image that'll be at the forefront of their minds when they go to vote.

I read the Scott Adams tweet and it's almost like it's implied that Fallon was decked out in that mask the whole time.

The video shows that it's more of a joke than anything.

But I understand your point.

The image is all that matters. In the irrational mind it confirms Shillary as sick and unfit to serve.

Anything that acknowledges Hillary's health on any level is a negative for her at this point. The best thing for her camp would be to completely ignore it as much as possible.

(09-17-2016 05:31 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

^The reaction of a media shill who's been successfully trolled.

I didn't realize Garrett was such a cuck. No wonder he left Fox news.

Integrity. Likeability. Strength.

This is what most people vote on in modern elections. And it only matters in the context compared to your competition at that particular time period.

Do I trust this person?

Do I like this person?

Will this person protect me and/or my interest(s)?

Reagan vs Carter
Reagan vs Mondale
Bush vs Dukakis
Clinton vs Bush
Clinton vs Dole
Bush vs Gore
Bush vs Kerry
Obama vs McCain
Obama vs Romney

The winners are on the left. The losers on the right.

If you think about the three aforementioned questions and look at the above list objectively, it's fairly easy to see why the winner won: the winner overall had more total points for them in relation to all three questions compared to their competition.

I said a while back that September 26th, the 1st debate date, is where this whole election rides or dies because it is where the contrast between Trump and Clinton on the three questions will be overwhelming obvious to everyone; including casual followers and the simpletons.

The contrast is obvious to us and the internet crowd because we have been following every major and minor development since the beginning. We analyze issues, study out the bullshit, and have giant circle jerks because we have enormous amounts of evidence that the other person is full of shit.

But there is still a large chunk of people who really are just indifferent and/or lack a solid opinion on who to vote for at this point and they will be making their voting decision largely based on the debate performances. This also includes a huge chunk of people who have completely checked out of voting process; people who will overwhelming be for Trump by default given his message that the system is broken. For those that don't know, voter turnout in the past several elections has never breached past 60%. That's A LOT of untapped votes out there.

Keeping the three questions in mind, Trump is going to murder Clinton on the debate stage as long as he doesn't look overly ignorant or stupid.

He is already guaranteed to look:

Way more likeable than Hillary.
Way more stronger than Hillary.

And trust? Hillary has set a stupid low standard due to her own actions and she has almost no room to improve on this front. Again, as long as Trump doesn't come off like a total buffoon on basic stuff, he should be fine. And EVEN then, Trump has quite some leeway because he is new to politics, is likeable, and projects strength in a time when safety and security is a big deal.

Do you think people are really gonna give a shit if Hillary stumps Trump on some foreign policy non-sense if they still believe Trump will protect them better at the end of the day? I know FAGGOTS who are voting for Trump because they believe Trump will do a better job protecting them vs Hillary.

We have black voters finally waking up to the fact that the democrats don't give a shit about them.

Blacks and gays. Voting for a republican?! HAHAHA who would have thought... And we see these trends going in a positive direction already PRIOR to the debate. Hillary has basically NOTHING to offer to these people. In fact, she really has nothing to offer to anybody. She is selling the "Anybody but Trump" message and that's all she's got. And that generally doesn't work if you look at election history.

People want to vote FOR something. Make America Great Again vs Anybody But Trump? The former style almost always win.

As for the almighty woman vote:

Everyone here knows game to some degree and knows (or should know) that women talk mad shit and express displeasure in everything and anything that rubs them the wrong way; especially men like Trump who give zero fucks about speaking their mind and being real. But at the end of the day, many of these women will come around when survival instincts kick in. Hillary is dying on national TV and Trump has more energy than a nuclear reactor.

Ever ultimately bang a chick who said all night prior to the bang: "We're not having sex"...?

Same deal.

"I'm not voting for Trump. Not happening. He's mean. An asshole. Stupid."

*Sees Trump looking strong vs dying Hillary*

That chick is voting for Trump. Women flip like this all the time in the 11th hour.

That all said: This election is NOT in the bag. Not yet at least. Everything is lining up for Trump to take this home though. Oz is right that Trump needs to avoid unforced errors and unnecessary overly outlandish comments that bring no value to his overall message. That shit works great in firing up a base and they are fired up. But Trump MUST get some of the middle ground votes to win this thing and to get that, those people need to trust him to act a bit more "presidential." I don't like it but that's the game right now.

We are this close though, goddammit. So close to turning this ship around. Just have to get through these debates without a major catastrophe on Trump's end and not say anything too out there and it's wrap.

"Weaponised autism" might just be my favourite notion out of this whole election process.

This is an incredible clip which shows a rare glimpse into what the Clinton administration / foundation really are all about. This kind of thing is not usually spoken in public, but here it is. With the Clintons, it all boils down to dirty money in Corn Flake boxes.

Black Knight, I like your optimism. I really do; but I may be less so. To add to your points, beyond actual votes is the possibility of rigging in a state like Florida and media bias that could provide Hillary the momentum to fill the gap. We cannot afford to underestimate these couple things. LOZ's cautious optimism is realistic to me.

(09-17-2016 08:54 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 05:31 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

^The reaction of a media shill who's been successfully trolled.

I didn't realize Garrett was such a cuck. No wonder he left Fox news.

The reporter's facial expression was priceless and hysterical at the beginning of the clip.

(09-17-2016 10:12 AM)Cobra Wrote:  Black Knight, I like your optimism. I really do; but I may be less so. To add to your points, beyond actual votes is the possibility of rigging in a state like Florida and media bias that could provide Hillary the momentum to fill the gap. We cannot afford to underestimate these couple things. LOZ's cautious optimism is realistic to me.

These are valid concerns.

Voter rigging/fraud - We have the alt-right media, smartphone recording tech, Trump's attitude of never settling with a billion+ warchest, and a law enforcement population that is overwhelming pro-Trump. So, I'm not too worried about this. People are already on pins and needles looking for it; people are EXPECTING Hillary to cheat already. All it will take is one youtube video of some blatant voter fraud from Hillary's camp and they are fucked. There will be county sheriff's (like the Wisconsin one) watching ballot boxes like hawks.

Media Bias/Hillary Momentum - The media has thrown every shade of shit at Trump while shining up Hillary's turds to make them look like gold and it's STILL not working. And Trump has tone down a lot his more controversial opinions/statements. If the media starts a shit storm that contrasts with what viewers saw in the debates, it will just further erode their credibility; of which they barely have any of at this point. You're forgetting that people are hurting and have been for a long time and no media shitstorm is gonna convince a man in a burning house that his house isn't on fire.

I think Mr. Trump's outreach to the minority community has been very effective and has helped him rise in the polls, but not for the reasons you might think. This outreach is helping him solidify white vote. There's a lot of white people who won't vote for a "racist" and all they are hearing in the media is how "raaayyysssisss" Mr. Trump is. Then they see pictures in the paper or online or on the news of Mr. Trump among smiling black people, or having a cordial meeting with the president of Mexico, and they think "oh, maybe he isn't raysis" and isn't a "very bad person."

The minority outreach gives cucked whites permission to do what they really want, vote for this man.

He should do more of it from now to election day.

Please someone, send this to Mr. Trump's staff.

I'm outside Philly and things are starting to heat up. Team Blue is running attack ads non-stop against the Republican senator who is up for election. Just this morning I encountered a bunch of college kids with Hillary shirts trying to register people. I told them I would vote for Trump and passed them by. On the way back I told them I planned to vote for Jill Stein just to mess with their heads. I expect we'll see the big white caddy soon that drops off the union guys from Philly. You can always tell them because they have clipboards in hand and walk up and down the street in a search for the Team Blue addresses. They get weirded-out when I stop and want to know what they are doing in my neighborhood.

(09-17-2016 02:14 AM)Sirob Wrote:  LoZ is absolutely right. I saw that Miami speech and that comment he made was just jarring.

Don't confuse your own sensitivities with why Trump is popular. No one cares about this anymore. It's a movement, not a one person show.

(09-17-2016 10:40 AM)Dusty Wrote:  I think Mr. Trump's outreach to the minority community has been very effective and has helped him rise in the polls, but not for the reasons you might think. This outreach is helping him solidify white vote. There's a lot of white people who won't vote for a "racist" and all they are hearing in the media is how "raaayyysssisss" Mr. Trump is. Then they see pictures in the paper or online or on the news of Mr. Trump among smiling black people, or having a cordial meeting with the president of Mexico, and they think "oh, maybe he isn't raysis" and isn't a "very bad person."

The minority outreach gives cucked whites permission to do what they really want, vote for this man.

He should do more of it from now to election day.

Please someone, send this to Mr. Trump's staff.

Disagree.

First of all I think the Hillary health attacks are overall ineffective with the majority of Americans. Remember Trump had the white vote in the bag long before this. He also does has a commanding lead among men.

The only place the Hillary health issue matters is among low information voters and I think the recent spike with black voters is most likely because of this. It shows people who don't really follow politics see their implied candidate wobbly and sick, a wobbly sick old woman, if you're a low information voter, that's the kind of stuff you base a decision on.

With the rest of voters, Hillary's health is completely non-factor, Trump has votes FOR him in majority, not against Hillary. To some degree, the focus on Hillary's health is an easy ploy for clicks, true it might be, while the real deal here would be the Clinton Foundation. If you could prove pay for play, if you could really get through to the public with how Clinton is a prostitute for Saudi Arabia, then it would impact white women a lot more than attacks on her health.

Reporter tries to slip in a misrepresentation of something Trump said as an innocent question, and Trump calls him out on it, makes him repeat the full quote, demands an apology, bats away all of the reporter's weasely responses, has enough, tells him he's a bad reporter, and moves on.


I love stuff like this. Do forum strategists think this helps him, or is it too argumentative, unpresidential, etc.?

(09-17-2016 12:33 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Reporter tries to slip in a misrepresentation of something Trump said as an innocent question, and Trump calls him out on it, makes him repeat the full quote, demands an apology, bats away all of the reporter's weasely responses, has enough, tells him he's a bad reporter, and moves on.


I love stuff like this. Do forum strategists think this helps him, or is it too argumentative, unpresidential, etc.?

I think he should continue to do it even as president.

(09-17-2016 12:19 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 10:40 AM)Dusty Wrote:  I think Mr. Trump's outreach to the minority community has been very effective and has helped him rise in the polls, but not for the reasons you might think. This outreach is helping him solidify white vote. There's a lot of white people who won't vote for a "racist" and all they are hearing in the media is how "raaayyysssisss" Mr. Trump is. Then they see pictures in the paper or online or on the news of Mr. Trump among smiling black people, or having a cordial meeting with the president of Mexico, and they think "oh, maybe he isn't raysis" and isn't a "very bad person."

The minority outreach gives cucked whites permission to do what they really want, vote for this man.

He should do more of it from now to election day.

Please someone, send this to Mr. Trump's staff.

Disagree.

First of all I think the Hillary health attacks are overall ineffective with the majority of Americans. Remember Trump had the white vote in the bag long before this. He also does has a commanding lead among men.

The only place the Hillary health issue matters is among low information voters and I think the recent spike with black voters is most likely because of this. It shows people who don't really follow politics see their implied candidate wobbly and sick, a wobbly sick old woman, if you're a low information voter, that's the kind of stuff you base a decision on.

With the rest of voters, Hillary's health is completely non-factor, Trump has votes FOR him in majority, not against Hillary. To some degree, the focus on Hillary's health is an easy ploy for clicks, true it might be, while the real deal here would be the Clinton Foundation. If you could prove pay for play, if you could really get through to the public with how Clinton is a prostitute for Saudi Arabia, then it would impact white women a lot more than attacks on her health.

Don't confuse your own sensitivities with why Trump is popular. No one cares about this anymore. It's a movement, not a one person show.

^^^Not at all. It helps highlight the truth and exposes the MSM for what they are, liars.

A lot of boomers see this and begin to distrust what they see and hear from big name news outlets. This is good because it weakens their grip on the narrative.

Anecdotally, I know a lot of elder adults who are second guessing what is reported in the news and openly distrust what reporters say. This is a good thing.

(09-17-2016 10:40 AM)Dusty Wrote:  I think Mr. Trump's outreach to the minority community has been very effective and has helped him rise in the polls, but not for the reasons you might think. This outreach is helping him solidify white vote. There's a lot of white people who won't vote for a "racist" and all they are hearing in the media is how "raaayyysssisss" Mr. Trump is. Then they see pictures in the paper or online or on the news of Mr. Trump among smiling black people, or having a cordial meeting with the president of Mexico, and they think "oh, maybe he isn't raysis" and isn't a "very bad person."

The minority outreach gives cucked whites permission to do what they really want, vote for this man.

He should do more of it from now to election day.

Please someone, send this to Mr. Trump's staff.

I agree with people saying that some members of D. Trump's (high-energy) team certainly are reading this thread. And a good day to them! MAGA!, and don't forget to hire iop890 as State Secretary, Samseau as Defense Secretary, and Damien Casanova as chief engineer for the Wall... and Roosh as General Surgeon (Health Secretary), to piss off obese feminists, too.

Well, seriously, RVF do rank first on google for many searches, after all... Also, hey, last Conservative man to be interviewed by Dr Oz before the Emperor, was Roosh himself, isn't that right?! I guarantee you (because it is the logical thing to do), Trump studied Oz's interview of Roosh.

Unfortunately, the other camp also read us: Health-Hazard-Hillary disappears 4 days, comes back tweeting about "ranking women from 1-10" and "pay for play politics": The blue-bespectacled bed-ridden lunger has been reading, between tweets (and Huma humid humps), RVF, while coincidentally Bill also was looking at the site (Bill is probably Giovonny anyway )...

In any case, maybe we'll have a proof someday soon that Trump and Hillary do read RVF: if Trump starts using my E.L.E. Health-Hazard-Hillary , or if I disappear in a plane accident over Little-Rock, we'll know for sure! Or, imagine Trump saying to Hillary (or Biden, or the biased debate moderator): "do you lift"!?

Breaking: Donald Trump to speak on the Michael Savage any minute now. 3:10pm EST. Check local stations on I Heart Radio. Savage Nation.

(09-12-2016 11:36 PM)Tactician Wrote:  Minority status is a social construct.

Especially in Texas, LA and indeed London.

(09-19-2016 01:10 PM)Dusty Wrote:  If Mr. Trump wins, the left is going to get very ugly and use the courts and bureaucracy to thwart him. They'll institute a courts/bureaucracy dictatorship with enthusiastic support from the press.

They'll weaponize the IRS, EPA, etc. to do their dirty work.

I bet the EPA will try to prevent him from building the wall for example.

George Soros funded advocacy groups will be filing lawsuits to gum up the works, and find sympathic lefty judges to rule in their favor.

As I've said on Twitter several times, if Trump manages to cut through the likely electoral fraud Hillary has planned and does gets in, there better be some metaphorical civil service blood on the goddamn floor on January 17, 2017.

These people have to go as much as the criminal illegal aliens, or his entire term will just be Trump vs. the executive branch of the US gov't.

EDIT: I'm totally serious. It should be the metaphorical equivalent to the "Red Wedding" for the Federal Civil Service. Very few people should be left afterwards in any senior or middling positions.

(09-19-2016 02:37 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  

(09-19-2016 01:10 PM)Dusty Wrote:  If Mr. Trump wins, the left is going to get very ugly and use the courts and bureaucracy to thwart him. They'll institute a courts/bureaucracy dictatorship with enthusiastic support from the press.

They'll weaponize the IRS, EPA, etc. to do their dirty work.

I bet the EPA will try to prevent him from building the wall for example.

George Soros funded advocacy groups will be filing lawsuits to gum up the works, and find sympathic lefty judges to rule in their favor.

As I've said on Twitter several times, if Trump manages to cut through the likely electoral fraud Hillary has planned and does gets in, there better be some metaphorical civil service blood on the goddamn floor on January 17, 2017.

These people have to go as much as the criminal illegal aliens, or his entire term will just be Trump vs. the executive branch of the US gov't.

EDIT: I'm totally serious. It should be the metaphorical equivalent to the "Red Wedding" for the Federal Civil Service. Very few people should be left afterwards in any senior or middling positions.

Only the most senior managers in federal cabinet agencies are political appointees. Usually the top two levels.