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philosophical_recovery · 2016-09-12 20:28:00 · #39955
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RaccoonFace · 2016-09-12 20:42:00 · #39956
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Eastside · 2016-09-12 20:48:00 · #39957
From BallotPedia:

Quote:If a nominee dropped out of the race and was replaced by his or her party, what kind of ballot access obstacles might they face?

States require political parties to submit names of presidential candidates in order to certify them for the general election ballot. Every state has some sort of official or unofficial deadline for this (see the table below). Some states have earlier deadlines than others because of early voting and voting by mail and absentee voting. As of February 2016, 34 states offered early voting in some form or another, and several states allow voting as early as late September.[10] Three states (Colorado, Oregon and Washington) use all-mail voting systems, thereby eliminating the need for early voting.

August/early September
The bulk of the dates for certifying the names of major party presidential candidates are in August and September. Mid August was the point at which either party could have found a replacement nominee and still have been able to get his or her name on the ballot in enough states to be competitive in November without having to navigate the courts and ballot access issues. For example, if a nominee had dropped out in late August, his or her name would already have been certified to appear as their party's candidate for president in about 20 states. If he or she dropped out in late September, that number rises to almost 40 states.

Late September
Replacing a candidate's name in late September could prove challenging. The parties would likely have to look to the courts. As Politico noted on August 4, 2016, the courts have shown a willingness to work with the parties on the issue of deadlines: "Courts have tended to discard ballot deadlines in favor of having two parties represented on the ballot.”[11] In 2002, for instance, the New Jersey Supreme Court allowed Democrats to replace their nominee for a U.S. Senate seat 15 days after the certification deadline.[12] In addition to this, election officials in the states have been known to show some leeway on the deadlines. Richard Winger, an expert on ballot access laws, told Ballotpedia by email, “even when major parties have missed deadlines for certifying presidential and vice-presidential nominees, or presidential elector candidates, election officials have always set the deadline aside.”[13]

The other factor to consider, however, is whether or not the opposing party would file lawsuits seeking to enforce state laws as they are written and prevent a replacement nominee from appearing on the ballot. This would consume a considerable amount time, energy, and resource for both parties but would likely exacerbate the struggles of the party trying to get its replacement nominee on the ballot.

October/early November
In October, especially later in the month, and in early November (before November 8) the situation becomes significantly more complicated. At this point, nearly all ballot certification deadlines have passed, many ballots have been printed off, and voters in some states will have already cast their ballots. This begs the question: what happens if a candidate has dropped out of the race but wins the popular vote in a state? Would the replacement nominee just receive those electoral votes? The answer lies in what that state has to say about its electors in the electoral college. The Constitution does dictate how electors must cast their votes. But some states do. More than half the states have laws dictating how electors must vote. If the former nominee won in a state that does not have a law on how its electors vote, then, theoretically, they could win all of that state's electoral votes. But if the former nominee won in a state that does have a law on how its electors vote, then, one would have to look at that law's fine print to see what would happen and if the state's electoral votes could go to the replacement nominee.

So from this it seems like if they decide on a replacement in 2-3 weeks and get the process started on replacing the names on the ballots the same day, it would be a tough task. Lets say that on October 1st (a little over 2 weeks from now) they were to replace Hillary as the nominee. It would be very difficult to get things switched and set up for a new candidate in every state. The logistical and legal problems would not be easy to overcome in a rapid amount of time, as most of the state deadlines would have passed already, and the Republicans at the state level could probably stall and prevent things from happening in time in enough states that it would be close to impossible to win. If even a couple blue or purple states don't get the new Democrat candidate cleared to be on the ballot or have any issues at all with it, it becomes very tough for them to win even if everything else in the switch goes as well as possible. If the whole nationwide electorate knows the new Democrat candidate is not on the ballot in a few states as well, the Democrat voters everywhere will be extremely demoralized and I don't see any way they could win. Turnout would be terrible. They would need to absolutely vote like crazy in every state that they were eligible and probably have to turn red states blue. Given how they are already low-energy this year, the odds of that are basically zero and they still have to contend with naturally high-energy Trump supporters. Unless Hillary is swapped out within the next week, it would be pretty tough to pull it off. If it is in October they are pretty much fucked (great for us though!).

This is a complicated topic, however, so if anyone has more information then I'd love to see it.
Enigma · 2016-09-12 21:04:00 · #39958
^ Would this affect Bernie? Or is he already registered?

My worry is that someone like Biden or Bernie, who are less unlikable and knowingly corrupt than Hillary, would suck up a lot of the #NeverHillary and "both candidates suck" votes.

Many liberals, conservatives, and independents fall in either of those two camps.

I'm very confident Trump will beat Hillary, but a lot of that rides on the fact that people hate her. I've always thought she was the much better matchup than Bernie for this same reason. Trump vs. Bernie is more of a fact based, ideological battle, and I don't trust the American people to pick Trump over Communist "Free Stuff for Everyone" Sanders.

That being said, I think Bernie would possibly lose the neocon vote that is pushing for Hillary. But he also seems like less of a maverick and easier to control by the establishment, so who knows.
RaccoonFace · 2016-09-12 21:10:00 · #39959
The infamous Carl The Cuck slayer did some great street interviews. That black guy actually knew the seizure video, that surprised me. I also didn't expect a lot of them to be so open about their support of Trump.


Last Parade · 2016-09-12 21:16:00 · #39960
This is real life: Hillary's website has a page titled "Donald Trump, Pepe the frog and white supremacists: an explainer"

http://archive.is/j6h3G

The Pepe-as-Nazi-Frog meme is still really hilarious to me. They're just grasping at straws, so desperately.

Pepe on Chris Matthews:





And then they cut to, of course, a gay black man who writes for the deplorable Washington Post to admonish them. He would've gotten full credit had he said "we've gone from dog whistles to frog whistles" but alas, he's not that good.
Eastside · 2016-09-12 21:22:00 · #39961
(09-12-2016 09:04 PM)Enigma Wrote:  ^ Would this affect Bernie? Or is he already registered?

My worry is that someone like Biden or Bernie, who are less unlikable and knowingly corrupt than Hillary, would suck up a lot of the #NeverHillary and "both candidates suck" votes.

Many liberals, conservatives, and independents fall in either of those two camps.

I'm very confident Trump will beat Hillary, but a lot of that rides on the fact that people hate her. I've always thought she was the much better matchup than Bernie for this same reason. Trump vs. Bernie is more of a fact based, ideological battle, and I don't trust the American people to pick Trump over Communist "Free Stuff for Everyone" Sanders.

That being said, I think Bernie would possibly lose the neocon vote that is pushing for Hillary. But he also seems like less of a maverick and easier to control by the establishment, so who knows.

It would be the same situation for any replacement, including Bernie, because he was only on the primary ballots and not the general election ones. Regardless, if they want to switch to a replacement they need to do it fast. At this point, each day they don't make a switch makes it harder and harder to do so. If they did something in October it would be close to impossible to get back on every single state's ballot. Making a switch just from a campaign standpoint is not an easy task either. Remember that Hillary's campaign has 700-800 people working for it and everything for the past several years at the DNC has been geared up for her candidacy. Doing a last minute swap won't just be as easy as taking out JUST Hillary and inserting JUST Biden, Bernie, or whoever. It would probably take a little while to even get the rebooted campaign settled and make the other necessary adjustments before making the official switch. It's a tough task, so they will probably just stick with Hillary is what I'm thinking. Either way, its not an easy place to be for the DNC, especially if Hillary faints again before the vote.
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beta_plus · 2016-09-12 21:33:00 · #39963
It's astonishing how badly the alt-right has shaken the left. Milo, Cernovich, PJW, and their legion of green nazi frogs under Obergruppenführer Harambe have them in hysterics by simply making a bunch of tweets, youtube videos, and silly jpgs.

They can't control the narrative anymore and it has them terrified. I wonder if in all of history a major ruling power has been brought to its knees by so little.

4chan was right:
There is no god but Kek and Pepe is his prophet.
Latinopan · 2016-09-12 21:40:00 · #39964
Deplorables is being embrace by Trump people

Team Deplorables! Trump supporters embrace Clinton's dig and showcase their pride with themed mugs and T-shirts



-Deplorable-themed merchandise has popped up online in just three days
-Supporters can now buy necklaces proclaiming: 'Call me deplorable'
-T-shirts and tank tops read: 'Proud member of the basket of deplorables'
-Hillary Clinton used the term against Trump's supporters Friday night


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Now Deplorables will become a badge of honor, being called names by Hillary? perfect, this had the opposite effect, the base republican voters are not going to feel bad for name calling.
Dismal Operator · 2016-09-12 22:06:00 · #39965
Yeah I saw a few MSM outlets shitting themselves over the fact Don Jr. shared a WHITE SUPREMACIST symbol on his instagram. Then they showed the pic and I was genuinely confused. I was seriously looking for someone maybe slipping a white hood onto one of the people, or someone having a swastika armband or something. I checked and double checked looking for this supposed white supremacist symbol and couldn't find it, so I just moved on with my day.

Never even crossed my mind that it was Pepe, the fact that they think Pepe is a WN symbol is hilarious. Pepe memes are like the first thing you come across on the internet these days if you're on any sort of forum or read any comment section, so it's rather odd that these MSM outfits who are staffed with millenials don't know that. They look completely out of touch on this, but I guess it's par for the course.
Laner · 2016-09-12 22:13:00 · #39966
This election has been a wake up call and all over the world governments are cringing at the knowledge that Americans, not just white people as the media wants us to believe,are pushing head first into internet meme wars, street game battles and are pulling the pants down of anyone they see fit. No one on the left is safe from this sharp, pointed humour, and they know it.

If there is one thing as a Canadian that I have always envied of American culture, its the way that people walk around head up and are always ready to speak their mind. Its one thing that foreign people always remark about; the confidence of average Americans.

Watching that Infowars video and then watching the media videos about Pepe, man they really have not a clue. We think that the left is scrambling now, well I think that they have been scrambling since the first debates.

The are rushing to put a label on this, but they are too stupid to realize that this movement does not get a label. They are missing the whole point. They need to label Pepe as something, so "white nationalist" it is. While they try and try again to label us, to put us in boxes and divide us, Americans are still doing what they do. Going to football, talking shit to strangers on the street and really just having a laugh.

America really is an outrageous country, just when the world thinks it has the place figured out this happens. Its pure panic mode now, and I don't see that stopping. Our confidence has never been so high, our humour so on point, and our energy so contagious.

What a time.
Eastside · 2016-09-12 22:20:00 · #39967
I hope when Trump is declared the winner of the election he changes his twitter avatar to Trump Pepe just for the lolz and exploding liberal heads.

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Isaac Jordan · 2016-09-12 22:21:00 · #39968
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RaccoonFace · 2016-09-12 22:38:00 · #39969
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greekgod · 2016-09-12 23:11:00 · #39970
(09-12-2016 06:09 PM)Last Parade Wrote:  
(09-12-2016 03:53 PM)Enigma Wrote:  
(09-12-2016 11:23 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
(09-12-2016 11:03 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christian-...25968.html

Look at this degenerate Huff Po article. they've gone full retard, they see defeat and refuse to acknowledge it. Mass suicides will come after November 8.

I would kuote the article but the website doesn't let me do it. Read it at your own peril, it's brain cancer inducing...

Christian Gabriel Wrote:WE ARE DYING.

Lol. Hey Christian... stop your dying and die.

This just in, Neo-Nazi Trump supporter says all Christians must die. More at 11.


I can't even, I literally can't even. I'm shaking right now.

(09-12-2016 10:48 AM)Curunír Wrote:  
(09-12-2016 08:25 AM)godzilla Wrote:  Here's my plausible prediction....

http://www.270towin.com/maps/pD0Pd

Funny I was concluding with the same map this morning.

NH and NV will be tight so this is scary, but then if he could flip one of the ME districts, Michigan or Virginia, he wins.

Winning Ohio and Florida seems doable as of now, and I'm and always have been a Trump optomistic, but it's a very narrow path.

We would need to see a tight race in NJ, Connecticut, Virginia and CO to start breathing a little bit.

Whenever I model a 269-269 result it ends up like that (which would be a perfect capstone to this unbelievable election cycle).

Here's one thing I don't get: a lot of poll prognosticators have New Hampshire as safely Democratic territory, and Trump's consistently behind in the polls there despite:
-Hillary getting killed in the primaries
-Trump having a yuge win in the primaries
-Ayotte (Republican senator) building a bit of a lead in her senate race
-NH has a more rebellious attitude relative to their east coast neighbours

I don't get why the hell Trump isn't in the lead there yet...

The polls saying Hillary is leading in NH is about as honest as your girl saying her phone was dead the whole time she was in vegas and thats why she didn't respond to your texts.

NAPALT you say?

Brother, come sit, for one moment. I've been all over the most populous parts of the state the past month. I have seen 6 or so hilllary signs. Untold Trump signs.

BUSINESSES, SMALL AND LARGE, ARE DISPLAYING LARGE, IN YOUR FACE TRUMP SIGNS in areas that have somewhat decent hispanic populations. A lot of consumers come up 28 to do buy things tax free. A fucking equestrian school has a big Trump Sign. People put the 14 in lawn signs inch the back windows of cars.

I mean, when small mom and pop businesses are confident enough to be this brazen, they have it on good confidence that it won't hurt and maybe help their business.

The thing about NH is it isn't a "true blue" state. It votes "issues" more than ideology. Huge heroin epidemic here. The wall implicitly says "Drugs, you have to go". Trump has expressed sympathy and named the problem here. Hillary hasn't really even been to NH much and can't compete on the drug platform.

So combine those factors and the D+8 polls in a state which can't be tamed and you reach your logical conclusion; ALL POLLS ARE LIKE THAT, bullshit.

He's winning NH and hes winning big.

APALT, get used to it.
porscheguy · 2016-09-12 23:21:00 · #39971
My sister is 13 months older than me. Her birthday is 9/11. We've never really spoken of 9/11. She doesn't watch the news very often, and she's just never come off as the type with political thoughts. Rather than wish her a happy birthday, I tend to wish her a happy terror day or something equally fucked up. So last night I wished her a happy terror day, and she replied with a pic of the pentagon where it was damaged with a red circle drawn on one area. Inside the red circle was where the sea container for her husband's employer had been. He He had the option to stay there that day or go to another jobsite. 15 minutes before the plane crashed he rolled out. Had he stayed, he would have died. Needless to say, 9/11 had a profound affect on those two. She even said "we can never forget."

Obviously my next question was "forget what radical islamic terrorists did?"
She replied "that's right."
I said "So you're voting for Trump?"
"Yes."

She wasn't enthusiastic about it. She was merely matter of fact. Her husband was a union guy before moving to management, and they're still both pro union. You could say they were both traditional blue collar democrats. And now they're voting for Trump.

There are a lot of people who aren't making a big scene out of it, but quietly, they plan to pull the lever for him.
Latinopan · 2016-09-12 23:22:00 · #39972
Affluent high school is accused of racism after holding a Trump-themed pep rally before football game against racially-diverse team - complete with their own wall they said their opponents would pay for

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I like how they mention "Affluent", set the narrative of rich people attacking poor people, I was waiting for white blondes blue eyes students, the pro Trump students look damn diverse to me. Now supporting Trump means you are not a minority.
Rush87 · 2016-09-12 23:31:00 · #39973
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And people [Even on here] have been quoting this chinless hack as if his polling data is even remotely unbiased.

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How could you trust anything this guy says... He needs one of those 'void' stamps plastered across his photo. Better yet, instead of 'void' it should say 'cuck'.
Tactician · 2016-09-12 23:36:00 · #39974
Minority status is a social construct.
Lizard King · 2016-09-13 00:20:00 · #39975
It's time to place bets on Trump before the price gets too low.

I placed my first bet around a month ago and got a nice price of 3.75(11/4), it's now 2.37(11/8).

Hillary's odd's have gradually shifted up, Trumps down. They're starting to become aware of what's happening.

If you're a betting person, bet now because you won't get better prices as time goes on.
Leonard D Neubache · 2016-09-13 04:08:00 · #40001
(09-13-2016 02:27 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  I got into a argument with some strange old bitch on Facebook under a video someone posted of when Hilary called us deplorables. She posted this under the video:

"He's more deplorable than most. Actually, the statistics prove her right-49% of Trump supporters admit to be racist, hating women etc just like him.
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Forfty percent of all people are too fucking stupid to live.
eradicator · 2016-09-13 05:07:00 · #40002
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Cobra · 2016-09-13 05:45:00 · #40003
(09-12-2016 11:22 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  Affluent high school is accused of racism after holding a Trump-themed pep rally before football game against racially-diverse team - complete with their own wall they said their opponents would pay for

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I like how they mention "Affluent", set the narrative of rich people attacking poor people, I was waiting for white blondes blue eyes students, the pro Trump students look damn diverse to me. Now supporting Trump means you are not a minority.

They are also healthy looking minority kids which is probaby due to solid parenting and a healthy lifestyle. That's key.
YossariansRight · 2016-09-13 05:55:00 · #40004
The Enperor at work: Having his surrogate, who also happens to be a black neurosurgeon, attack Hitlery. Tie that in with the inroads The Emperor has made with minority voters and the MSM can once again suck his balls.

Dr. Ben Carson: Security Wasn’t Surprised By Hillary’s Collapse – Are They Accustomed To It?

Ben Carson was a world-renowned neurosurgeon before he ran for President. If anyone understands the potential neurological issues facing Hillary after her collapse on 9/11, it’s him.

Dr. Ben Carson told Buzzfeed he has real concerns about Hillary’s health:

“In the case of Hillary Clinton, because she has had a brain injury in the past and there is a question of venous sinus thrombosis, the result of a recent specialized MRI would be very helpful. The stakes are too high for us to blindly elect someone to the presidency of the United States when we have the possibility of examining real evidence upon which to make a decision.”

Then, he said something even more interesting:

“The fact that the security detail assisting her as she clumsily attempted to enter her vehicle after abruptly ending her participation at a 9/11 event did not appear surprised as if dealing with something new, makes one wonder if such awkward moments are something they have become accustomed to.”

http://americanlookout.com/dr-ben-carson...med-to-it/
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