(09-05-2016 01:27 AM)Wutang Wrote: (09-04-2016 11:19 PM)Latinopan Wrote: (09-04-2016 08:07 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: I was Googling how Pepe became associated with Mr. Trump, and it has everything to do with the You Can't Stump The Trump videos. Both that Trump Pepe and a link to the fourth episode of You Can't Stump The Trump were tweeted to Mr. Trump. When he retweeted it, that Pepe became permanently associated with him.
I like the mission statement of the Alt-Right, as well as our strategy of being either intellectually philosophical or trollingly demoralizing depending on who we're taking to. The only downside is that Mr. Trump can't officially endorse our demoralizing tactics.
We are his secret shock troops.
I have been watching news videos about the Alt-Right, one common theme you see in the people on the left and journalist is, they point out how tech savy and smart the Alt-Right is, how they are winning the cultural war, even Time Magazine had a cover about it:
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The left is used to deal people on the right who only listen to radio, and maybe some hours of Fox News, not people with knowledge to track Hillary's handler identity to the point to force her to disappear him, or knowing what a meme is, the left has never deal with the other side in the same battlefield, they have dominated online since always, they simple do not know what to do with people who outperform them at what they believe to good.
A person like Milo or Lauren Southern hit the left in America in different ways the left did not expect, both are young, Milo is gay European and Southern is Canadian, we all know how the left price Europe and Canada as epitome f hat America should be, having people from these countries and supporting Trump, gun rights etc.
I've always thought that the biggest reason why the left has been so successful with the cultural war and resonates so much with millennials isn't with the much maligned "leftist Marxist college professors"[b][b] but because of people like Stephen Colbert and John Stewart as well as other "cool" celebs, cultural figures, and media. I'm sure Colbert has done more to turn the country left then all of the gender studies classes in colleges. The very reason why now see a bit of a resurgence of right wing ideas (though of course very different from the neo-con Moral Majority conservativism of the 80s and 90s) is now the right finally has figures like Milo and Gavin. For the first time in forever, right wingers are in the position of being the scrappy, rebellious counter-culture street fighters, a position that the left has traditionally occupied and which has allowed them to control the minds of the young.[/b][/b]
There is one aspect of young people that republicans were not addressing, young people like to be rebellious, they like the feeling of revolution and fighting against the empire, young republicans simple did not have anything to hold them up, imagine a republican teen in high school on Monday after John Oliver snarky episode, every comedy politician talk show is a way for liberals to claim "common sense", we ll know how liberals say "republicans are not funny because comedy is about telling the true", like if republicans can get a right wing show on mayor network.
Samantha Bee, Noah, and all those people can portray themselves as edge and outrageous because there was not equivalent on the other side, this is why is so hard for young republicans to fight a cultural war, when everyone you know in college is sharing Trevor Noah new segment where he "school" stupid right wings on Facebook and you have to simple take it.
Now something new happens, it could be said it started with #gamergate and the people whom came with it, Milo became the voice of gamers in short amount of time, he almost alone without knowledge of video game became a voice, the fact he was gay also helped a lot against the left that claim every to own every minority group.
The biggest blow was Trump, he was so unexpected that DNC leaks did not even mention him at all, the republican establishment and the media did not take him seriously but they forgot the fact that the republican base have been waiting for somebody on their side for so long they they are wailing to forgive some aspect of his life and policies (3 wives, abortion).
Then at the same Trump is calling out the media and journalist dishonest in their faces people are talking online, this is the first time for many young republicans they feel like they can stand up and feel proud of being republicans, and he first time for many older republicans in a long time.
Now we have people like Milo, Gavin or Stefan Molyneux, they are now the "extreme" and "outrageous", young see them as edge and rebellious, adding to the fact that young people are consuming more online media while TV is dying.
A gay British guy is able to be embraced by the conservative American party, while a real state Mogul is winning the presidential race by using memes and defeating 16 other candidates.
The so called "edge" people on the like Larry Wilmore are getting cancelled, Noah and Colbert are having horrible ratings, the right is making the left look boring and lame, even if we planned we not make such strategy plays out, this is something out of political novel books.
These young rebels, a subset of the alt-right, aren’t drawn to it because of an intellectual awakening, or because they’re instinctively conservative. Ironically,
they’re drawn to the alt-right for the same reason that young Baby Boomers were drawn to the New Left in the 1960s: because it promises fun, transgression, and a challenge to social norms they just don’t understand.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29...alt-right/
(09-05-2016 01:46 AM)Adonis Wrote: (09-05-2016 01:27 AM)Wutang Wrote: (09-04-2016 11:19 PM)Latinopan Wrote: (09-04-2016 08:07 PM)MMX2010 Wrote: I was Googling how Pepe became associated with Mr. Trump, and it has everything to do with the You Can't Stump The Trump videos. Both that Trump Pepe and a link to the fourth episode of You Can't Stump The Trump were tweeted to Mr. Trump. When he retweeted it, that Pepe became permanently associated with him.
I like the mission statement of the Alt-Right, as well as our strategy of being either intellectually philosophical or trollingly demoralizing depending on who we're taking to. The only downside is that Mr. Trump can't officially endorse our demoralizing tactics.
We are his secret shock troops.
I have been watching news videos about the Alt-Right, one common theme you see in the people on the left and journalist is, they point out how tech savy and smart the Alt-Right is, how they are winning the cultural war, even Time Magazine had a cover about it:
The left is used to deal people on the right who only listen to radio, and maybe some hours of Fox News, not people with knowledge to track Hillary's handler identity to the point to force her to disappear him, or knowing what a meme is, the left has never deal with the other side in the same battlefield, they have dominated online since always, they simple do not know what to do with people who outperform them at what they believe to good.
A person like Milo or Lauren Southern hit the left in America in different ways the left did not expect, both are young, Milo is gay European and Southern is Canadian, we all know how the left price Europe and Canada as epitome f hat America should be, having people from these countries and supporting Trump, gun rights etc.
I've always thought that the biggest reason why the left has been so successful with the cultural war and resonates so much with millennials isn't with the much maligned "leftist Marxist college professors" but because of people like Stephen Colbert and John Stewart as well as other "cool" celebs, cultural figures, and media. I'm sure Colbert has done more to turn the country left then all of the gender studies classes in colleges. The very reason why now see a bit of a resurgence of right wing ideas (though of course very different from the neo-con Moral Majority conservativism of the 80s and 90s) is now the right finally has figures like Milo and Gavin. For the first time in forever, right wingers are in the position of being the scrappy, rebellious counter-culture street fighters, a position that the left has traditionally occupied and which has allowed them to control the minds of the young.
Disagree. The reason the left has been so successful in the culture war is that they have used unconventional warfare aka fighting dirty, while the right has maintained the "high ground". The right has fallen for it hook, line, and sinker but with the rise of the alt-right (and all its iterations), fire is being fought with fire. Its akin to conventional maneuver units (cuckservatives) fighting a guerrilla force (transnational socialists, aka tranzies) and losing until special forces (alt-right) starts giving them the business in their sanctuaries.
Edit: Added quote tree to maintain context.
I found it funny when Michelle Obama said during the the convention, "when they go low we go high".
The left fight with the most dirty and immoral ways they can find.
(09-05-2016 06:04 AM)NerdyNomad Wrote: I'm afraid Hillary will try to weasel out of the debates. She's playing the run out the clock strategy the best she can.
Even with the biased moderators, Trump gonna destroy that evil wretch.
I wonder if they will let her sit down during the debates. I don't think she could make it through. Also a decent chance she short circuits on stage if there are actually 3 debates.
They know Trump will point out anything they do, if they are sitting he will stand and tell her right in front of her and the audience.