(09-22-2016 05:14 AM)Going strong Wrote:  That's also why I refrain from insulting opponents from the same (Conservative) side, during a political race. Thing is, there will have to be a reconciliation at some point, so, no point in getting too personal against a same-side opponent... On this thread for example, I don't think calling Cruz a "rat", is a reasonable, profitable move. I for one never called him that on this thread or elsewhere (Ok, I do have a soft spot for openly-religious people, and Cuban right-wing migrants: anti-commie people).

Ted Cruz is a rat though.

And the #NeverTrump crowd has done everything in their power to sabotage and disparage Trump and his supporters for months. Many of them were more than willing to sell out the country for a small amount of money or power.

As I pointed out previously in a post about Van Jones, people need to stop being so merciful and forgiving.

In fact, that's one of the main reasons the West is in the situation it's currently in. There comes a point where you have to accept human nature and realize that people aren't going to stop trying to screw you over or kill you because you're nice to them.

If Cruz can be useful to the Trump campaign, that's great -- but until then, he's a rat. And if he runs for office again in the future, he will still be a rat then too.

(09-22-2016 11:46 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:14 AM)Going strong Wrote:  That's also why I refrain from insulting opponents from the same (Conservative) side, during a political race. Thing is, there will have to be a reconciliation at some point, so, no point in getting too personal against a same-side opponent... On this thread for example, I don't think calling Cruz a "rat", is a reasonable, profitable move. I for one never called him that on this thread or elsewhere (Ok, I do have a soft spot for openly-religious people, and Cuban right-wing migrants: anti-commie people).

Ted Cruz is a rat though.

And the #NeverTrump crowd has done everything in their power to sabotage and disparage Trump and his supporters for months. Many of them were more than willing to sell out the country for a small amount of money or power.

As I pointed out previously in a post about Van Jones, people need to stop being so merciful and forgiving.

In fact, that's one of the main reasons the West is in the situation it's currently in. There comes a point where you have to accept human nature and realize that people aren't going to stop trying to screw you over or kill you because you're nice to them.

If Cruz can be useful to the Trump campaign, that's great -- but until then, he's a rat. And if he runs for office again in the future, he will still be a rat then too.

More or less what I was going to post.

If we can use the rats for now, fine. But there is no fucking way we should simply forgive them and reconcile. Their true colors are known, are we going to turn a blind eye?

Use them, then replace them as soon as practical.

(09-21-2016 10:08 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  George HW Bush is being ridiculous betraying his party like this. He and Hillary share ZERO values in common. At least, that is what he has portrayed all his life to conservative people that respect him...

That just goes to show you how little he cares for the people of this country. He never cared about the common man. He was a rich oligarch/plutocrat back before he was president and still now. He goes to football and baseball games all the time, but make no mistake. He isn't down there hanging out with Joe Six Pack...CIA is CIA. He has been all about subversion of people and dirty backroom deals his entire life.

Great post.

He also stabbed Saddam in the back. (Yes, I honestly miss the old bastard. He went down with the ship but did it like a man.)

His words to posterity:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKiesJwDbm0/...y=qcurtius

"Always be a man, and die trying."

.

   

^^^^^ this perfectly describes my life right now

Hillary (and Trump) got roasted on Zach Galiafianikis' show Between Two Ferns.





Best part?

They play a freakin' ad for the Donald himself in the middle of the interview!

Zach's show is supposed to show that famous people have self-awareness and can laugh at themselves. However, the things brought up here are a bit too true (the sea of shit, and consistency and smell of said shit, is getting deeper for HillDawg with every passing hour), and HillDawg's responses are lame and cliché enough to put a meth addict on a bender to sleep. She also missed opportunities to display anything resembling charm.

For example:

Zach: "So, how can I best reach you? Email?"

Hillary: *Parkinsonian stare*

This almost makes me wonder if Zach is secretly stumping for Trump... Nothing anti-Trump that is said in this video is hurting him. He's almost antifragile.

(09-22-2016 11:46 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 05:14 AM)Going strong Wrote:  That's also why I refrain from insulting opponents from the same (Conservative) side, during a political race. Thing is, there will have to be a reconciliation at some point, so, no point in getting too personal against a same-side opponent... On this thread for example, I don't think calling Cruz a "rat", is a reasonable, profitable move. I for one never called him that on this thread or elsewhere (Ok, I do have a soft spot for openly-religious people, and Cuban right-wing migrants: anti-commie people).

Ted Cruz is a rat though.

And the #NeverTrump crowd has done everything in their power to sabotage and disparage Trump and his supporters for months. Many of them were more than willing to sell out the country for a small amount of money or power.

As I pointed out previously in a post about Van Jones, people need to stop being so merciful and forgiving.

In fact, that's one of the main reasons the West is in the situation it's currently in. There comes a point where you have to accept human nature and realize that people aren't going to stop trying to screw you over or kill you because you're nice to them.

If Cruz can be useful to the Trump campaign, that's great -- but until then, he's a rat. And if he runs for office again in the future, he will still be a rat then too.

I see your moral point and respect your principles, but, this is not the way politicians (and I dare say businessmen even) work. They have to "forgive" past "enemies" (or say opponents, being in politics or business), when the situation asks for it, because if not, it'd be too awkward and unpractical. All things considered, only the end-result matters: defeating blind-globalism and the Crooked one.

And I disagree with the following: "If Cruz can be useful to the Trump campaign, that's great -- but until then, he's a rat. And if he runs for office again in the future, he will still be a rat then too".
Because, imagine that Cruz openly (and convincingly) endorses D. Trump, who then goes on to win (by a thin margin) against Health-Hazard-Hillary... then, if there is reason to think that Cruz's endorsement did help, did turn out to be, say, "marginal-in-absolute-figures" but decisive, then you and every other normal man on the planet would be in debt with Cruz, forever, whether you like Cruz or not.

When Conservative people do not succeed in burying the hatchet, like what happened with the (usually-excellent) Farage, who always treated Marine Le Pen in a snobbish, dismissive way, bad things happened (Marine Le Pen was almost unable to create a EU parliamentary group because of the smug way Farage treated her). My point is, well, let's resume it: No enemy on the Right, especially in the midst of a decisive fight.

As to mister Bush father, by the way, I don't believe what they say about him "endorsing" E.L.E. Hillary: same thing happens in France with old, dying, Parkinson-ridden Chirac (Bush's old pal); Leftists pretend that Chirac endorses leftist candidates but hey, the man is too old to speak for himself! How weak, and disgusting, are these Leftists who put words into Bush's (92 years old isn't he? please...) or Chirac's mouths.

(09-22-2016 01:05 PM)Going strong Wrote:  I see your moral point and respect your principles, but, this is not the way politicians (and I dare say businessmen even) work. They have to "forgive" past "enemies" (or say opponents, being in politics or business), when the situation asks for it, because if not, it'd be too awkward and unpractical. All things considered, only the end-result matters: defeating blind-globalism and the Crooked one.

Yes, he can graciously accept his endorsement. The point is to not actually "forgive" him.

He has already shown his true colors, and he should be treated as if he will betray Trump again as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

Quote:And I disagree with the following: "If Cruz can be useful to the Trump campaign, that's great -- but until then, he's a rat. And if he runs for office again in the future, he will still be a rat then too".
Because, imagine that Cruz openly (and convincingly) endorses D. Trump, who then goes on to win (by a thin margin) against Health-Hazard-Hillary... then, if there is reason to think that Cruz's endorsement did help, did turn out to be, say, "marginal-in-absolute-figures" but decisive, then you and every other normal man on the planet would be in debt with Cruz, forever, whether you like Cruz or not.

No, we wouldn't be in debt to Cruz.

1. Trump can and will win without Cruz.

2. If Cruz does endorse Trump, it's for his own interests. He got slammed after his stunt at the convention, and could easily see his political career burn out if he doesn't regain some ground. If Trump were on the verge of losing, I doubt Cruz would even be considering an endorsement.

3. All of his actions and words up to this point hurt Trump.

4. Former candidates endorsing the nominee is what is expected in the first place -- and Cruz had already agreed to do so.

Trump doesn't owe Cruz a debt at all. In fact, I would argue that Cruz would owe Trump a debt if he were to publicly "forgive" him.

Quote:When Conservative people do not succeed in burying the hatchet, like what happened with the (usually-excellent) Farage, who always treated Marine Le Pen in a snobbish, dismissive way, bad things happened (Marine Le Pen was almost unable to create a EU parliamentary group because of the smug way Farage treated her). My point is, well, let's resume it: No enemy on the Right, especially in the midst of a decisive fight.

Again, it was Cruz and the #NeverTrumpers that tried to tear the party apart.

They were willing to sell out their values and their country for short term political or monetary gain.

No one is saying we should put them in front of the firing squad (though some may argue for it), but they should be replaced in power by people who are more loyal to the country.

Imagine you're at sea, and half your crew tries to mutiny. In the mutiny are your chief engineer and the only navigator on board. What do you do once you quell the mutiny?

You probably need to keep using your engineer and navigator until you're back in port. You can't just lock them in the brig or throw them overboard, because as captain you can't work 24 hours a day, and you can't be in two places at once even if you have the skills for both their jobs. So you use them to keep the ship on course and moving.

But once you're in port, are you going to keep them on your crew? Hell no. You may let them walk free if they assisted you after the mutiny, but the trust is gone and will never return. What you should do at that point is cut them loose and blackball them, so no other captain is betrayed by them the way you were.

(09-22-2016 12:54 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Hillary (and Trump) got roasted on Zach Galiafianikis' show Between Two Ferns.





Best part?

They play a freakin' ad for the Donald himself in the middle of the interview!

Zach's show is supposed to show that famous people have self-awareness and can laugh at themselves. However, the things brought up here are a bit too true (the sea of shit, and consistency and smell of said shit, is getting deeper for HillDawg with every passing hour), and HillDawg's responses are lame and cliché enough to put a meth addict on a bender to sleep. She also missed opportunities to display anything resembling charm.

For example:

Zach: "So, how can I best reach you? Email?"

Hillary: *Parkinsonian stare*

This almost makes me wonder if Zach is secretly stumping for Trump... Nothing anti-Trump that is said in this video is hurting him. He's almost antifragile.

It's likelier that Zach actually believes in the same tone-deaf way as Hillary that this actually came across as positive for Hillary. It had it's funny moments, sure, but overall Hillary was portrayed in a negative light (as is Zach's comic style in general) and Trump was sort of made fun of, but the ad is very positive and it ends with Hillary looking idiotic for taking the interview.

Why in the world would you as a presidential candidate go on a show where the host talks about steaks being from the "asshole" part. How unpresidential.

I've been thinking about the debates.

My thoughts have shifted a bit since that "warm up" with Lauer.

They are going to give Hillary the questions beforehand.

Those questions are going to have some obscure "Allepo" type foreign policy entanglements that are designed to make Mr. Trump look stupid and uninformed.

They're going to beat up on him (this will backfire if just beating up on him) but if it's done in tandem with making him look uninformed it could be deadly.

If she comes out ahead in the first one, she may very well not attend the last two.

For what it's worth, Mr. Trump has made comments that make me think he's aware of the ambush.

I'm telling you, if D. Trump does win, which God willing he will, we Conservative people will be so overcome by joy, that we (yes, you included) will drink champagne and party one solid week (month?) and forgive Ted Cruz and the others. I mean, think of the joy, the pure felicity that will flood our minds and veins! Think of Hillary doing the concession speech (actually, like CFK, she won't), think of hundreds of CNN journalists boiling with defeated rage, SJWs falling in tears to the ground, heading for Canada (the racist bastards hate Mexico, it seems) in droves, think of Hollywood satanists committing suicide, think of Merkel hospitalized in shock etc...

It is not living under four years of a Hillary Clinton administration that I fear most.
What I fear the most is living under four years of Hillary Clinton's Clone's administration once that old hag croaks, if she hasn't already.

Compare Hillary's interview with Obamas. He maintains frame and owned it. Hillary is incapable of maintaining frame and is always on the defensive.

(09-22-2016 01:50 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 12:54 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Hillary (and Trump) got roasted on Zach Galiafianikis' show Between Two Ferns.





Best part?

They play a freakin' ad for the Donald himself in the middle of the interview!

Zach's show is supposed to show that famous people have self-awareness and can laugh at themselves. However, the things brought up here are a bit too true (the sea of shit, and consistency and smell of said shit, is getting deeper for HillDawg with every passing hour), and HillDawg's responses are lame and cliché enough to put a meth addict on a bender to sleep. She also missed opportunities to display anything resembling charm.

For example:

Zach: "So, how can I best reach you? Email?"

Hillary: *Parkinsonian stare*

This almost makes me wonder if Zach is secretly stumping for Trump... Nothing anti-Trump that is said in this video is hurting him. He's almost antifragile.

It's likelier that Zach actually believes in the same tone-deaf way as Hillary that this actually came across as positive for Hillary. It had it's funny moments, sure, but overall Hillary was portrayed in a negative light (as is Zach's comic style in general) and Trump was sort of made fun of, but the ad is very positive and it ends with Hillary looking idiotic for taking the interview.

Why in the world would you as a presidential candidate go on a show where the host talks about steaks being from the "asshole" part. How unpresidential.

I liked the video. It showed Hillary being very tired (speaking slowly, deflated even), totally low-energy (I almost pity her, she is seriously sick, it's more obvious by the day, she's faltering like a candle after a long night).

Also, see Zach at the beginning, disguised as Death itself, stalking Hillary... wow. Hillary understood the meaning (the reference to her health): Hello, I'm the grim reaper, coming for you, soon.

Trump extended an olive branch once to bury the hatchet and gave Cruz the privilege to speak at the Republican Convention. How did Cruz return the favor? He pulled this giant bait and switch garbage; further inciting division within the party:





Now that it's becoming more clear and accepted by the mainstream that Trump is looking like he has a solid shot at winning (AFTER having to do extra clean up work due to Cruz's lack of endorsement), NOW Cruz wants to come in and get on the bandwagon?

FUCK HIM!

His endorsement is welcomed but Cruz has A LOT of debts left to pay. And even when paid off, I personally would never trust him to honor his agreements in the future.

Cruz should count himself extremely fortunate if he is even allowed to exist in the Republican Party under a Trump administration. EXTREMELY fortunate.

And Cruz better accept REAL quick that he is Senator Bitch under a President Trump or he will be losing his Senate seat in the re-election primary in a few years.

And just for good measure while I'm at it: fuck that Kevin Costner Wanna-Be Super Mailman John Kasich faggot traitor.

I'll never stop calling Rafael 'the Canadian Anchor Baby' Cruz a rat.

When Trump is president and Hillary is in jail dead I'll still be calling Lyin' Ted Cruz a rat.

When I'm 80 years old I'll be telling my grandchildren stories about the foolish El Rato that scurried down from the frozen land of leftist exiles, which was then a country called Canada, and thought he could stump the God-Emperor(Praise be!).

A billion years from now when the Earth is a deserted dry wasteland this post will be discovered by Imperial Archivists from the Galactic Empire of Trump and our distant descendants will know that Ted Cruz was a rat.

Since many are dubious about the fairness of the debate on Monday, I propose that each candidate has the right to ask the other a few questions so that no bias can be mentioned for the most part.

Either way, it's gonna be fun to watch.

First picture of Secret Service Ivanka Marvel





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...etail.html

Notice Jared dominant position while Ivanka has her hand on his knee.

(09-22-2016 02:24 PM)iop890 Wrote:  I'll never stop calling Rafael 'the Canadian Anchor Baby' Cruz a rat.

A billion years from now when the Earth is a deserted dry wasteland this post will be discovered by Imperial Archivists from the Galactic Empire of Trump and our distant descendants will know that Ted Cruz was a rat.

God-Emperor Trump forgiving Ted, the little, lost black sheep:



While iop890 looks on, unconvinced and... unforgiving:

Why aren't I ahead by 50 points?

Trump: Clinton isn’t ahead ‘because she's terrible’

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/tr...ble-228511

Donald Trump stops for Philly Cheesesteak at Geno's in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. [/align](9-22-16)

(09-25-2016 09:55 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  She's a middle-aged women driving a Jetta. If you see a middle-aged woman driving a hot college freshman's car, you know she's unstable.

EDIT - Cheap wrist tattoo and lousy haircut are two other warning signs.

From the 'Forum Lounge 'Everything Goes' thread :

(09-25-2016 02:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  She tried to dox the guy she harassed, and is currently learning about online trolls, Trump supporters, and 4Chan. So she put on some make-up toned her voice down, and made a video full of horse shit in response:

https://www.minds.com/archive/view/626408145471680531

No need to watch this. Boilerplate feminist hamstinatrix. It is here for background only.

(09-25-2016 10:55 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Donald Trump stops for Philly Cheesesteak at Geno's in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. [/align](9-22-16)

"Trump gets more audience at a food counter than Hitlery at a staged event."

I am somewhat concerned that Trump is not prepping much of the debate and plans to wing it. That may backfire if Hillary starts tossing out a lot of facts he can't rebut and the moderator won't challenge because Holt is in the tank for Clinton. Also, if Trump just speaks in cliches it may hurt him with independents who want him to be more presidential.