(07-31-2016 07:32 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Looks like the crowd size is getting smaller and smaller for HRC. The MSM is pretty desperate in trying to control the narrative.

This is what the crowd size comparison look like in PA:

Hillary Clinton

And that is a VP and a former former POTUS right there, imagine how thing will turn out in 3 weeks.

Yeah, definitely fake. I was too hasty. Some tweets were ridiculous but the Muslim statistics and chastising Melania got me. It's precisely what I thought a Muslim would say.
"Although 81% of US Muslims *completely* oppose terrorism, 6% aren't sure. It's this 6% @realDonaldTrump's Muslim ban could radicalize."

It's unbelievable how selective my skimming is.

(07-31-2016 07:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Also when comparing Trump to Shillary rallies, THOUSANDS are turned away at the door because the venue is full.

I don't see how this is supposed to be a close elections when turnouts between the two candidates are so vastly different. The only way Clinton beat Bernie was by rigging the election. Unless she feels she can do the same for the general, what the fuck exactly is her strategy?

The DNC 2016 was such a disaster that the liberal media is trying to paint a rosy picture of HRC (because of her vagina) leading Trump in a number of *phony* polls. The Trump's rallies tell a different story, which we all know that the media won't cover.

Just saw this tweet:

Quote:Lauren [email protected] 1 hour ago
My 3rd grade talent show had a bigger crowd than this #ClintonKaine rally. Who was #unelectable again? #StillBerning

(07-31-2016 07:44 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Disingenuous



Unless there is a terror attack every couple of day we should not take action against radical Islamic terrorism.

I think that's a parody.

   

(07-31-2016 07:25 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 07:16 PM)Mr West Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 07:10 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Trump needs to retweet this... how can we make him see this pic?

I emailed it to Cernovich, he might have a line to Trump's campaign.

Good stuff since he's got it up now (and thanks to Roosh too for tweeting)

It's just too perfect and encapsulates everything that we know the media is about nowadays.

(07-31-2016 09:43 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  If Trump could meet with this Khan couple and treat them with real gentleness and respect, while holding firm to his views and proposals on what must be done to protect the country, it would the kind of move that sways voters and wins elections.

Ignore the Actors in the situation and whatever emotional response is being prompted. It's manipulation.

Any kind of conciliatory reaction is a signal to the Left that his campaign is vulnerable to the Appeal To The Pathetic, so they just need to find the most pathetic actor.

You know where this ends up? The Disney Film Bullshit that I think of as being "The Sad Crying Kitty Shivering Under A Tree In A Thunderstorm" moment.

You'll end up with a tiny, cute-but-damaged in some way six year old Mexican girl hobbling up on stage, perhaps on a crutch, telling 'Mister Twump' that she escaped persecution / saw parents killed / survived brutal border crossing and how terrified she is of being sent back home because she came here "Iwegalwy".

This is classic manipulation. I'll bring this up, not to be pretentious, but to show you how far back it goes.

'Oliver Twist' (1838) came up in conversation this morning. Dickens was a Social Reformer, and that novel is a classic example of making political points and urging social action whilst using the pathetic to gain sympathy for his causes, and this played well with the upper and middle classes, who became scandalised by the treatment of the poor (whilst simultaneously-thrilling to the class tourism), and demanded that Something Must Be Done.

As such, the 'good' characters are painted as Moral Saints whose agency is restricted institutional structures (class, poverty, far beyond their control. The implication is that it's these structures that taint their innate higher morality, and threaten to lead them to commit crime to survive.

So you have Nancy, the hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold, with the implication that she would have been a good woman if poverty hadn't forced her into prostitution.

There's a ridiculous / hilarious scene - I find Dicken's verbosity and over-the-top sentimentality very, very entertaining - where two of the saintly Workhouse Children are fighting illness, and one child holds the dying other one as he gives a speech along the lines of "It's OK to die. I'll go to heaven to see God and I'll get to see [even more pathetic little sister who died the year before] again."

"Mister Twump, don't sent me back to that bad place...."

Here's Oscar Wilde, (the Victorian version of Milo Yiannopoulos), calling out Dickens at the time, referencing "The Old Curiousity Shop":

Quote:"One must have a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell without laughing."

Back to your earlier comment:

(07-31-2016 09:43 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Too many guys here mistakenly believe that voters will just see through all the bullshit and emotional appeals; this is simply not true, and it's not true in particular of the voters that Trump needs most: middle class suburban white women.

This problem was accelerated by An Appeal To The Pathetic:



Which is why this similar Appeal To The Pathetic is guaranteed to be playing even heavier on Middle Class White Women, and, as such, I haven't been surprised to hear the conversation change.



Why this in particular?

It punctures the Female Aspirational Fantasy bubble.

Ages back I jokingly-mentioned what I think of as being the ubiquitous aspirational fantasy trajectory of women.

It was something like Vampire Boyfriend (teens) -> New York Magazine Writer (20's) -> Rural Vineyard Owner in the South Of France or Tuscany (late 40's).

The romantic construct of France is as Basic Bitch as you can get. Go into any stationary store or female garage sale. Read their Facebook and Pinterest feeds. Look at the cheap art on the walls of their twenty-something dwellings or the note their 40-something Hamptons Sterile Cold Chill White Spaces, methodically-designed with the belief that these Useless Pretty Things arranged just so are evidence of their inner higher value.

Somewhere in all of your interactions with things aimed at women, I guarantee there'll be some image of the fucking Eiffel Tower on something, which some kind of tacky Instagram-ish Filter feel to the art.





Paris (and France by extension) as Aspirational Fantasy is Core Female Instinct.

So, in the middle-aged female mind.

Terrorist Attack at a Rock Concert? They're older than that, they've never heard of the band. Shrug.

Terrorist Attack on Public Transport? They don't know anyone who doesn't have a 4WD. Shrug.

Terrorist Attack on an Army Base. Male space. Not her world. Shrug.

See the pattern?

By constrast: walking along the water's edge in a city in France, trendy eateries around you, watching the fireworks with your tall, mysterious, dark and sexy EatPrayLove French husband, your cute little girl, dressed adorably and just so, sitting on his shoulders, all watching the holiday fireworks together, with her clapping her hands excitedly and holding up her doll so she can see the fireworks too. She's up so far past her usual bedtime, but soon you'll all go back to your renovated rural Chateau together - he's such a good carpenter! his hands are so strong, yet so gentle - and you'll hang her little hat on the coatrack that is actually a repurposed aged wooden stepladder you found in one of the barns that was just so cute and shabby chic. You remember him dabbing the whitewash brush on your nose as you both painted it together. She'll be yawning, and Mr EPL will smile at you charmingly, and tell you, don't worry, he'll put her to bed - oh, he's so good with children! - and why don't you pour a couple of glasses of your own vineyard's award-winning wine, relax on the couch and he'll join you soon....

Do you see now how a photo of a little girl with a Michelin Tyre Tread imprint across her skull on a French Promenade is a deep, personally-relatable attack on your average, sheltered middle class woman? You couldn't ask for a stronger narcissistic injury other than Terrorists gunning down the cast of 'Sex In The City'.

Realistically, there'll be another attack soon enough, and all this will be forgotten.

Now that I finished watching an interview with Eric Trump he mentions how companies like the Trump Co have strong security systems to protect information, resorts, golf courses, hotels ----> credit cards numbers, social security, personal address.

One of the leaked emails from DNC shows DNC faking ads for the Trump company about hiring sexy looking women up for sexual harassment.

Now I wonder, if at some point will the Trumps bring a lawsuit against the DNC for this? they can hammer the DNC more if they want to, just at the right time, faking to be a company is already a crime, and running ads pretending to be said company is way worse.

(07-31-2016 07:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Also when comparing Trump to Shillary rallies, THOUSANDS are turned away at the door because the venue is full.

I don't see how this is supposed to be a close elections when turnouts between the two candidates are so vastly different. The only way Clinton beat Bernie was by rigging the election. Unless she feels she can do the same for the general, what the fuck exactly is her strategy?

I think her strategy is to use the attack ads, she has the full media behind her(all networks and cable tv) trying to rig the public opinion in her favor, she has social media networks like facebook trying to help her with favorable news feeds, and right now she is currently ahead slightly in the polls. I can't wait for the debates and to see what else wikileaks can dump on her, the first wikileaks leak was awesome(the emails), then the next was just some disgruntled voicemails. I was like "what is the point of the voicemails, that is a let down"

^^ Pence with the quickness

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(07-31-2016 08:56 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  [quote='The Lizard of Oz' pid='1363174' dateline='1469976213']


By constrast: walking along the water's edge in a city in France, trendy eateries around you, watching the fireworks with your tall, mysterious, dark and sexy EatPrayLove French husband, your cute little girl, dressed adorably and just so, sitting on his shoulders, all watching the holiday fireworks together, with her clapping her hands excitedly and holding up her doll so she can see the fireworks too. She's up so far past her usual bedtime, but soon you'll all go back to your renovated rural Chateau together - he's such a good carpenter! his hands are so strong, yet so gentle - and you'll hang her little hat on the coatrack that is actually a repurposed aged wooden stepladder you found in one of the barns that was just so cute and shabby chic. You remember him dabbing the whitewash brush on your nose as you both painted it together. She'll be yawning, and Mr EPL will smile at you charmingly, and tell you, don't worry, he'll put her to bed - oh, he's so good with children! - and why don't you pour a couple of glasses of your own vineyard's award-winning wine, relax on the couch and he'll join you soon....

Do you see now how a photo of a little girl with a Michelin Tyre Tread imprint across her skull on a French Promenade is a deep, personally-relatable attack on your average, sheltered middle class woman? You couldn't ask for a stronger narcissistic injury other than Terrorists gunning down the cast of 'Sex In The City'.

Realistically, there'll be another attack soon enough, and all this will be forgotten.

Your typical suburban, blogger starburst mom only care as long as they are the one in danger, if another attack happens before the election in a trendy middle upper class place then they will see more and more shift of this demographic, there is a reason the democrat party is conformed mostly childless older women, they do not care about preserving and safe environment, they will die out. They want to sacrifice other people children for their ideology.

Had Nate Silver stick with the numbers he would have made more accurate prediction -- the polls were pretty accurate predicting Trump's wins. He was wrong because he was not analytical enough, not because he's too analytical.

(07-31-2016 08:01 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Hillary's campaign is run by 'analydids' people, guys like Nate Silver, the same people who have ruined professional sports with their autistic deductionist ideology. It's like how some pimply faced teen will tell you Michael Jordan was a bum cause he didn't shoot 3s.

Hillary's campaign is entirely based on this kind of calculated analytics approach, count the voters, count the minorities, probably from some analytics dogma about how minorities of any kind vote as a cohesive group.

If Trump wins analydids guys go out the window and politicians will have to change to adopt the Trump mindset of popular support.

Trump is great at analytics. He saw that half the country does not vote. Most of the non voters are working class people with working class problems that nobody else addresses. So he decided to motivate them to vote for him.

Political Correctness has just made most analytical people retarded from too much navel gazing and no competition.

In the past 24 hours:

1.) My publisher has told me he wants to make novels great again.
2.) I got an email from the local hardware chain about a discount they're running: "Make Gardening Great Again".
3.) I spent some time on twitter this morning looking at a silly account with goats on it. There was a post entitled "Make Goats Great Again."

Trump is going to win this thing so hard...

Ah, I did have this on my computer.

This isn't off-topic, because it's both about France and The Ease of Manipulation.

A female friend was coming to stay about 18 months ago. I have a third bedroom in my house I rarely use as anything other than a Library, so had never really gotten around to decorating the room in any meaningful way, beyond painting and cutting and installing picture rails to take advantage of the high ceilings.

Thinking I wanted to create a more inviting space for her, I thought I should really put a mirror or a picture above the bed, so it was a little less blank.

Problem was, I really couldn't be bothered spending any money. It's a spare room. I'm never in there except for cleaning, selecting a book, or storing any excess vinyl records I know I won't listen to much.

Ages ago, Tuthmosis had a great post on how Women have really bad taste and can't really tell the difference between something that is quality and something that isn't beyond price tag and the implied societal-attribution value.

I was at a Stationary Store a day later, and noticed a 'poster portfolio' in a cut-out bin labelled 'Paris'. I noticed the bland, tacky, Instagram Filter Quality of the art, thought 'Basic Bitch Art', then saw it had been marked down to 50c.

I realised I could use this.

Across the car park is an Aussie Craft Chain Store called Spotlight that has a $2 Shit Shop atmosphere to it, so I walked over, and looked for the cheapest frames I could find to fit. Three wooden frames for $5 and a sheet of white cardboard for 50c.

One of my many 'dogsbody' jobs during my uni years was, of all things, Art Installation, and after a year of doing it, I realised that most of the time you're making sub-standard art look more important than is purely through adding a facing around the image and the presentation.

So I carefully-cut out some white facing, picked the three least-tacky images, mounted the images on the facing, then put them inside the frame, pulled out my leftover hanging wire and a pair of pliers, and had them arranged them as a triptych a few minutes later, so the eye naturally flowed on these random images from left to right with both positive and negative space carrying over into the next image.

To my eyes, this is obviously low art presented as high art, and looks as cheap as it was, but, like Game, it's really all about your ability to bullshit.



Note the Eiffel Tower in the distance in the centre picture.

However, when my guest turned up, did she focus on the intricacy of the vintage pressed metal ceilings? The handcrafted Tasmanian Oak bookcases? The mohair blanket I'd laid out for her? The deliberate elevation of the upper half of the room with a lighter colour?

"Oh my God, I love those pictures...."

Meanwhile, I'm outwardly-stone-faced, but, internally:




My sister, a week or so later. "Oh, I love those pictures. I heard [Long Time Town Gallery] was closing down. Did you get them from there?"

I leant closer and stage-whispered "Six bucks from Spotlight."

She had her hand over her mouth and was giggling a second later, enjoying the mischief of seeing that I'd gotten away with it.

In other rooms, I have real unique art by real artists. I have vintage maps, architectural drawings, album art and concert posters.

Guess what every woman who comes into this damn house singles out, and, without fail, uses the phrase 'love' to describe?

France as Romance is a Social Construct. ISIS couldn't have picked a worse target if they didn't want western women to rouse their men into action.

How did you know this? (on Trump using analytics)

(07-31-2016 09:38 PM)JacksonRev Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:01 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Hillary's campaign is run by 'analydids' people, guys like Nate Silver, the same people who have ruined professional sports with their autistic deductionist ideology. It's like how some pimply faced teen will tell you Michael Jordan was a bum cause he didn't shoot 3s.

Hillary's campaign is entirely based on this kind of calculated analytics approach, count the voters, count the minorities, probably from some analytics dogma about how minorities of any kind vote as a cohesive group.

If Trump wins analydids guys go out the window and politicians will have to change to adopt the Trump mindset of popular support.

Trump is great at analytics. He saw that half the country does not vote. And he decided to motivate that half to vote for him.

Political Correctness has just made most analytical people retarded from too much navel gazing and no competition.

(07-31-2016 10:00 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  France as Romance is a Social Construct. ISIS couldn't have picked a worse target if they didn't want western women to rouse their men into action.

...which is why the Trump campaign needs to use the French attacks as fodder for reasonable anti-radical sentiment. Show that picture. Show the horror. The sadness. The shock. Have Ivanka relate some Parisian vacation story.

Drill deep into the psyche of American women that their Francophile fantasy can be literally obliterated by a single Islamic martyr and a Kangoo van packed with explosives.

Exactly, you don't #PrayForParis, you #FightForLove.

^ Instagram filter, picture of Eiffel Tower, Manic Pixie Dream Girl with umbrella hiding behind handsome, broad-shouldered man bravely-defending her from a terrorist.

(07-31-2016 10:00 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  In other rooms, I have real unique art by real artists. I have vintage maps, architectural drawings, album art and concert posters.

Guess what every woman who comes into this damn house singles out, and, without fail, uses the phrase 'love' to describe?

France as Romance is a Social Construct. ISIS couldn't have picked a worse target if they didn't want western women to rouse their men into action.

It's so true. Paris in particular is such a woman's city, everything there is such an idealized cookie cutter version of a woman's love fantasy. And every woman I know has asked me with bated breath how Paris was, and when I tell them how sad it is to see what they've done to it they are all physically and emotionally devastated. They just can't believe it, it really affects them deeply emotionally when you tell them you didn't like Paris because of all the immigration and Muslim terrorism.

#PreyForIslam

(08-03-2016 01:47 PM)kaotic Wrote:  The hate and heat is something we're already used to, we're just seeing it concentrated now since there are only 2 people now officially running for office.

Old Hillary and her deep pockets will make sure we constantly see these attacks on The Donald.

Hold fast and keep steady guys, the war is really on now.

The media is going all in now.

The recent onslaught against Trump reminds me of the Battle for Canada last summer and the International Meet Up drama from earlier this year.

The media and SJWs threw everything they had at Roosh and all it did was solidify the current tribe and grow the community.

Based on the size of his rallies in the various battle ground states (PA, OH, CO, VA, FL) over the past week it appears that the Trump Train is picking up steam despite the non-stop negative coverage.

It's August. The political battling right now barely matters. Both sides are gearing up for their big attacks starting on September 6 (after Labor Day). That's when the show really begins, along with the dirty tricks planned by the establishment. I doubt they'll act before.

Why does anyone care what the media is doing? They already lost to Trump. For many months they lied about him, and he still won the primary. There are only four things that can stop Trump at this point:

1. Assassination
2. Right-wing "terrorist" attack where attacker yells "I love Trump" before killing dozens
3. Voter fraud
4. False rape accusations

Have faith, what you're seeing on the media today isn't hurting him. Trump already proved they're irrelevant.

(08-03-2016 04:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It's August. The political battling right now barely matters. Both sides are gearing up for their big attacks starting on September 6 (after Labor Day). That's when the show really begins, along with the dirty tricks planned by the establishment. I doubt they'll act before.

Why does anyone care what the media is doing? They already lost to Trump. For many months they lied about him, and he still won the primary. There are only four things that can stop Trump at this point:

1. Assassination
2. Right-wing "terrorist" attack where attacker yells "I love Trump" before killing dozens
3. Voter fraud
4. False rape accusations

Have faith, what you're seeing on the media today isn't hurting him. Trump already proved they're irrelevant.

They tried that with Ivana, saying Ivana was raped by Trump when they were still married, Ivana herself came and call it a lie.

Just saw a headline that Trump has erased his fundraising gap with Clinton through small donations.