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Deepdiver · 2016-07-31 12:06:00 · #36805
In summary, the GOP and DEM conventions were well-staged media events - the GOP to showcase party unity and solid support for Trump with the leading opponent allowed to commit political suicide on a national stage ending on a high note of unity.
The DNC started and ended on controversy with the Media/Hollywood aspect designed to mask the ROTTEN nature of their Globalists hand picked DNC candidates' Deviant, Degenerate, Demented diabolical Conniving Criminally Corrupt actions.
Actions like the DNC Political Crimes Emails dump that proved DWC is a criminal who criminally conspired with the Clinton Campaign using dirty tricks to cause riots at Trump events in people wearing Bernie shirts to kill two freedoms with one stone implying the Trumpians are violent and the Berners are crazy. Both massive psychological projections of Hillary Rotten Clintons psycho nature herself.
The DNC Email dump by Julian Assange of Wikileaks single-handedly revitalized Wikileaks as one of the most trusted Media Organizations in the world - every major globalist network newscaster has been trying to spin Julian into answering "if a foreign government should be involved in manipulating the US political race by SPYing on the Democrats?". Julian Assange from his refuge in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London UK stated numerous times that Wikileaks has a 100% track record of verifying the information they report is 100% True and they have a 100% track record in protecting their sources.
The irony of the DNC is they started out implying Russia was behind the leak and Julian Assange initially implied people who are saying this would be shocked at the wrong-headed assumptions. Clearly, it is just as likely a pro-Bernie worker on the DNC who was shocked at the DNC, DWC and HRC criminality against Bernie and decided to upload these emails to Wikileaks (They give you instructions how to upload and how to maintain your anonymity on the Wikileaks site.)
Trump by his sarcastic remark about HRC's missing 30,000 emails masterfully refocused the entire DNC on Hillary's corrupt negligent handling of highly sensitive US Government State Department emails and the ongoing continual contempt that the Democrats and the Clintons have for the law and for protecting sensitive IT systems from Cyber Crime - a trend likely to be continued in an HRC administration.
The use of a US General Allen and the Kahn's further reinforced Hillary's support for the war in Irag and Afghanistan that threw our loyal patriotic troops into a Iran supplied IED/EFD and suicide bomber vests meatgrinder without adequately using overwhelming force to pacify the enemy as quickly as possible and eliminating the Iranians ability to flood the ISIL Iraq and the Levant plus Afghan lands with simple stealth weapons that were extremely deadly. This is what happens when you have a feminized SJW sensitized Officer Corps without the balls to stand up to the incompetent Obama/Clinton prosecution of the war against the regimes of radicalized Islamic extremists with the American Military stifled under restrictive rules of engagement that actually prevented the US Military from prosecuting an effective war strategy that would have brought the conflict to a distinct and swift victory.
Instead, Obama and Clinton vastly increased their Drones attacks significantly increasing the numbers of collateral casualties including a Doctors Without Borders hospital near the Afghan capital region - a war crime that Obama may be prosecuted for any time he dares set foot in the EU as a civilian in the future.
Yes there were a lot of savage attacks on Trump that the Hollywood-loving deviant degenerate demented SJWs will eat up with a short DNC bump that will quickly fade.
The most effective things that the GOP and the Trump campaign can do now is to educate the masses with as much access and publicity for the documentary Clinton Cash, Dinesh D'Souzas Hillary's America, the book Crisis of Character by the Clinton Era Secret Service Agent and Ann Coulters Adios America... these books and movies being fact based are so much more effective than attack ads and the interweb gives the RNC and Trump campaigns the ideal vehicle for spreading the truth about the future of the USA and the World under a deviant degenerate demented psycho Clinton Criminal Cartel.
Alex Costellanos of the pro-Trump Rebuilding America Now was great on Meet The Press this morning questioning why Donald Trump is being attacked by the Kahns when it was Hillary Clinton who voted to send him to war and die under restrictive rules of engagement! This is the one super PAC acknowledged by Team Trump and encouraged by Paul Manafort and Gov. Pence. See for yourself: https://rebuildingamericanow.com/about-o...anization/
Besides hard-hitting ads targeting the hypocrisy and truly anti-American nature of the Corrupt Clintons Cartel it would also be effective to indicate just how bad things will get under a possible Clinton Administration if she is allowed to extend Obamunist policies for 8 more years such as:
Good article... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...31379.html
Larry Kudlow is one of the few Reagan conservatives on CNBC
The Hillary Recession
By Lawrence Kudlow
July 30, 2016
This economy may be perilously close to recession. That was the message of the second-quarter real GDP report and its meager 1.2 percent growth rate.
Over the past year, real GDP has slipped to a paltry 1.2 percent. Business investment continues to fall. Building and factory construction has dropped sharply. Productivity is flat. The profits recession is still in force.
And what's the Hillary Clinton plan? Tax us into prosperity.
In her own words at the DNC on Thursday night, this is the fix: "Wall Street, corporations, and the super-rich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes." Why? "Not because we resent success. [!] Because when more than 90 percent of gains have gone to the top 1 percent, that's where the money is."
Let me get this right. In order to spur growth, Hillary intends to raise taxes on individuals, businesses, capital gains, stock trading and firms that move overseas (which they do because the U.S. has the most uncompetitive tax system in the corporate world). In addition, Hillary's door is open for a carbon tax, higher payroll taxes, and a gun tax of 25 percent.
She also argued in Philadelphia that the economy is not working the way it should because our democracy isn't working the way it should.
Huh?
What she's getting at is appointing Supreme Court justices who "will get money out of politics" and passing "a Constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United."
Citizens United removed spending limits for super-PACs. And yet those mean and nasty super-PACs have thus far benefited from pro-Hillary hedge-fund contributions to the tune of $48.5 million, according to The Wall Street Journal.
Donald Trump, on the other hand, has received only $19,000 from hedge funds.
Get it? Citizens United, according to Hillary, is the source of our weak recovery and must be overturned. Meanwhile, she is the big beneficiary of the Supreme Court decision to allow unlimited political donations.
Next there are the recurring themes of class warfare and inequality, roots of evil according to Hillary. Turns out that the top 1 percent received a big share of income growth during the recovery. Okay, but it also suffered the biggest loss during the Great Recession.
Research from Scott Winship of the Manhattan Institute shows that during the recession, the top 1 percent lost 36 percent of its income while the bottom 90 percent lost 12 percent. And through 2014, the top 1 percent was still poorer by 18 percent than it was in 2000. That's compared to a 9 percent decline for the rest of us.
According to Winship, income for the top 1-percenters was basically no higher in 2014 than in 2000. Turns out that group bumped into the same income stagnation suffered by the U.S. middle class since 2000.
And according to new studies by Aparna Mathur of AEI, raising top marginal tax rates reduces growth incentives and yields very few revenues. Yet in addition to higher tax rates, Hillary wants $1 trillion in new spending programs.
The numbers also don't add up for Obama, who defended his so-called recovery at the DNC and even called Hillary, a 30-year member of the establishment, a change-maker.
Obama's seven-year recovery averaged 2.1 percent real growth at an annualized rate. For historical comparison, after seven years, JFK's economy increased by 5.4 percent yearly and Reagan's by 4.5 percent.
Did JFK and Reagan beget long booms by raising taxes? No. They cut tax rates across the board.
Hillary is a combination of Barack Obama 3.0 and Bernie Sanders 2.0. This is not change. This will not yield strong growth, lift jobs and wages, and make America more globally competitive.
A week prior to the DNC, Donald Trump offered a different perspective at the RNC: "America is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. Reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. Then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job-killers overall ... We are going to lift restrictions on the production of American energy ... With these new economic policies, trillions of dollars will start flowing into our country."
So Trump wants to reduce tax rates and regulations, unleash energy, and make America the most hospitable investment destination in the world. Hillary wants to raise taxes, regulations, and spending, and put the energy sector out of business. (She would abolish coal and oil-and-gas fracking.)
No wonder the blue-collar, hard-hat, Democratic middle class is going for Trump.
Hillary is not an agent of change. Nor does she have any idea how to restore rapid economic growth. Instead, she is a prisoner of the Left. Tax the rich, inequality, redistribution.
If Trump stays on his growth message, he'll whup her in November.
Lawrence Kudlow is CNBC’s Senior Contributor. He is also the host of The Larry Kudlow Show, which broadcasts on Saturdays from 10am to 1pm ET and is syndicated nationally. He is a former Reagan economic advisor and a syndicated columnist.
The DNC started and ended on controversy with the Media/Hollywood aspect designed to mask the ROTTEN nature of their Globalists hand picked DNC candidates' Deviant, Degenerate, Demented diabolical Conniving Criminally Corrupt actions.
Actions like the DNC Political Crimes Emails dump that proved DWC is a criminal who criminally conspired with the Clinton Campaign using dirty tricks to cause riots at Trump events in people wearing Bernie shirts to kill two freedoms with one stone implying the Trumpians are violent and the Berners are crazy. Both massive psychological projections of Hillary Rotten Clintons psycho nature herself.
The DNC Email dump by Julian Assange of Wikileaks single-handedly revitalized Wikileaks as one of the most trusted Media Organizations in the world - every major globalist network newscaster has been trying to spin Julian into answering "if a foreign government should be involved in manipulating the US political race by SPYing on the Democrats?". Julian Assange from his refuge in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London UK stated numerous times that Wikileaks has a 100% track record of verifying the information they report is 100% True and they have a 100% track record in protecting their sources.
The irony of the DNC is they started out implying Russia was behind the leak and Julian Assange initially implied people who are saying this would be shocked at the wrong-headed assumptions. Clearly, it is just as likely a pro-Bernie worker on the DNC who was shocked at the DNC, DWC and HRC criminality against Bernie and decided to upload these emails to Wikileaks (They give you instructions how to upload and how to maintain your anonymity on the Wikileaks site.)
Trump by his sarcastic remark about HRC's missing 30,000 emails masterfully refocused the entire DNC on Hillary's corrupt negligent handling of highly sensitive US Government State Department emails and the ongoing continual contempt that the Democrats and the Clintons have for the law and for protecting sensitive IT systems from Cyber Crime - a trend likely to be continued in an HRC administration.
The use of a US General Allen and the Kahn's further reinforced Hillary's support for the war in Irag and Afghanistan that threw our loyal patriotic troops into a Iran supplied IED/EFD and suicide bomber vests meatgrinder without adequately using overwhelming force to pacify the enemy as quickly as possible and eliminating the Iranians ability to flood the ISIL Iraq and the Levant plus Afghan lands with simple stealth weapons that were extremely deadly. This is what happens when you have a feminized SJW sensitized Officer Corps without the balls to stand up to the incompetent Obama/Clinton prosecution of the war against the regimes of radicalized Islamic extremists with the American Military stifled under restrictive rules of engagement that actually prevented the US Military from prosecuting an effective war strategy that would have brought the conflict to a distinct and swift victory.
Instead, Obama and Clinton vastly increased their Drones attacks significantly increasing the numbers of collateral casualties including a Doctors Without Borders hospital near the Afghan capital region - a war crime that Obama may be prosecuted for any time he dares set foot in the EU as a civilian in the future.
Yes there were a lot of savage attacks on Trump that the Hollywood-loving deviant degenerate demented SJWs will eat up with a short DNC bump that will quickly fade.
The most effective things that the GOP and the Trump campaign can do now is to educate the masses with as much access and publicity for the documentary Clinton Cash, Dinesh D'Souzas Hillary's America, the book Crisis of Character by the Clinton Era Secret Service Agent and Ann Coulters Adios America... these books and movies being fact based are so much more effective than attack ads and the interweb gives the RNC and Trump campaigns the ideal vehicle for spreading the truth about the future of the USA and the World under a deviant degenerate demented psycho Clinton Criminal Cartel.
Alex Costellanos of the pro-Trump Rebuilding America Now was great on Meet The Press this morning questioning why Donald Trump is being attacked by the Kahns when it was Hillary Clinton who voted to send him to war and die under restrictive rules of engagement! This is the one super PAC acknowledged by Team Trump and encouraged by Paul Manafort and Gov. Pence. See for yourself: https://rebuildingamericanow.com/about-o...anization/
Besides hard-hitting ads targeting the hypocrisy and truly anti-American nature of the Corrupt Clintons Cartel it would also be effective to indicate just how bad things will get under a possible Clinton Administration if she is allowed to extend Obamunist policies for 8 more years such as:
Good article... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...31379.html
Larry Kudlow is one of the few Reagan conservatives on CNBC
The Hillary Recession
By Lawrence Kudlow
July 30, 2016
This economy may be perilously close to recession. That was the message of the second-quarter real GDP report and its meager 1.2 percent growth rate.
Over the past year, real GDP has slipped to a paltry 1.2 percent. Business investment continues to fall. Building and factory construction has dropped sharply. Productivity is flat. The profits recession is still in force.
And what's the Hillary Clinton plan? Tax us into prosperity.
In her own words at the DNC on Thursday night, this is the fix: "Wall Street, corporations, and the super-rich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes." Why? "Not because we resent success. [!] Because when more than 90 percent of gains have gone to the top 1 percent, that's where the money is."
Let me get this right. In order to spur growth, Hillary intends to raise taxes on individuals, businesses, capital gains, stock trading and firms that move overseas (which they do because the U.S. has the most uncompetitive tax system in the corporate world). In addition, Hillary's door is open for a carbon tax, higher payroll taxes, and a gun tax of 25 percent.
She also argued in Philadelphia that the economy is not working the way it should because our democracy isn't working the way it should.
Huh?
What she's getting at is appointing Supreme Court justices who "will get money out of politics" and passing "a Constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United."
Citizens United removed spending limits for super-PACs. And yet those mean and nasty super-PACs have thus far benefited from pro-Hillary hedge-fund contributions to the tune of $48.5 million, according to The Wall Street Journal.
Donald Trump, on the other hand, has received only $19,000 from hedge funds.
Get it? Citizens United, according to Hillary, is the source of our weak recovery and must be overturned. Meanwhile, she is the big beneficiary of the Supreme Court decision to allow unlimited political donations.
Next there are the recurring themes of class warfare and inequality, roots of evil according to Hillary. Turns out that the top 1 percent received a big share of income growth during the recovery. Okay, but it also suffered the biggest loss during the Great Recession.
Research from Scott Winship of the Manhattan Institute shows that during the recession, the top 1 percent lost 36 percent of its income while the bottom 90 percent lost 12 percent. And through 2014, the top 1 percent was still poorer by 18 percent than it was in 2000. That's compared to a 9 percent decline for the rest of us.
According to Winship, income for the top 1-percenters was basically no higher in 2014 than in 2000. Turns out that group bumped into the same income stagnation suffered by the U.S. middle class since 2000.
And according to new studies by Aparna Mathur of AEI, raising top marginal tax rates reduces growth incentives and yields very few revenues. Yet in addition to higher tax rates, Hillary wants $1 trillion in new spending programs.
The numbers also don't add up for Obama, who defended his so-called recovery at the DNC and even called Hillary, a 30-year member of the establishment, a change-maker.
Obama's seven-year recovery averaged 2.1 percent real growth at an annualized rate. For historical comparison, after seven years, JFK's economy increased by 5.4 percent yearly and Reagan's by 4.5 percent.
Did JFK and Reagan beget long booms by raising taxes? No. They cut tax rates across the board.
Hillary is a combination of Barack Obama 3.0 and Bernie Sanders 2.0. This is not change. This will not yield strong growth, lift jobs and wages, and make America more globally competitive.
A week prior to the DNC, Donald Trump offered a different perspective at the RNC: "America is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. Reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. Then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job-killers overall ... We are going to lift restrictions on the production of American energy ... With these new economic policies, trillions of dollars will start flowing into our country."
So Trump wants to reduce tax rates and regulations, unleash energy, and make America the most hospitable investment destination in the world. Hillary wants to raise taxes, regulations, and spending, and put the energy sector out of business. (She would abolish coal and oil-and-gas fracking.)
No wonder the blue-collar, hard-hat, Democratic middle class is going for Trump.
Hillary is not an agent of change. Nor does she have any idea how to restore rapid economic growth. Instead, she is a prisoner of the Left. Tax the rich, inequality, redistribution.
If Trump stays on his growth message, he'll whup her in November.
Lawrence Kudlow is CNBC’s Senior Contributor. He is also the host of The Larry Kudlow Show, which broadcasts on Saturdays from 10am to 1pm ET and is syndicated nationally. He is a former Reagan economic advisor and a syndicated columnist.
MMX2010 · 2016-07-31 12:13:00 · #36806
Vox Day shared Steve Sailer's article which states that only 13 Muslim-American soldiers have died in this century, compared to 15 American soldiers this year who have died in attacks by radical Muslim terrorists.
I don't think those 13 people are worth a Trump pivot here. I think it's better to wait for another terrorist attack, and point out Hillary's irresponsible policies.
Article: http://www.unz.com/isteve/invade-the-wor...countries/
I don't think those 13 people are worth a Trump pivot here. I think it's better to wait for another terrorist attack, and point out Hillary's irresponsible policies.
Article: http://www.unz.com/isteve/invade-the-wor...countries/
El Chinito loco · 2016-07-31 12:19:00 · #36807
^^ Does Hassan count in those casualty stats too?
The muslim-american officer who so valiantly fought against the American infidels in their own base and killed many of them before martyr'd.
It's almost a joke how far SJWs will go to prop up a failing narrative.
The muslim-american officer who so valiantly fought against the American infidels in their own base and killed many of them before martyr'd.
It's almost a joke how far SJWs will go to prop up a failing narrative.
Last Parade · 2016-07-31 12:26:00 · #36808
God these slimy Sunday talk show fuckers. I hate them so much.
Manafort on "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd. Manafort seems off his game in my opinion?
Trump on George Stephanopoulos. Starts his video gloating about all the press that their interview is getting and how it's in the papers since they leaked part of the interview - arguably out of context just to drum up negative publicity - FUCK YOU CUNT
(also note the audio starts to drift slightly out of sync with the video partway through)
Trump never forgets his enemies and I hope they all suffer tremendously in the end, whether he wins or not.
Manafort on "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd. Manafort seems off his game in my opinion?
Trump on George Stephanopoulos. Starts his video gloating about all the press that their interview is getting and how it's in the papers since they leaked part of the interview - arguably out of context just to drum up negative publicity - FUCK YOU CUNT
(also note the audio starts to drift slightly out of sync with the video partway through)
Trump never forgets his enemies and I hope they all suffer tremendously in the end, whether he wins or not.
Liberty Sea · 2016-07-31 12:27:00 · #36809
The heat escalates:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muslim-fa...d=41022064
So Khan is shaming Trumps' family (Melania, Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka, etc.) for his comment. Trump at least acknowledged his loss and his son's hero status. Khan said Trump sacrificed nothing for the country, so Trump responded that he did sacrifice something - he didn't say that his sacrifice is comparable to Khan's. Technically he didn't conclude why the wife didn't speak either. While her pain is real, I can see why Trump doesn't see himself as being in the wrong here -- while in the emotional dimension what he said was a bad strategy. Muslim culture values face, so there is no way Khan will back down either.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/muslim-fa...d=41022064
Quote:While Ghazala Khan grew visibly upset, her husband, Khizr Khan was livid, urging Trump’s children to "tell him to learn to behave, learn to be decent."
"Running for president is not an entitlement to disrespect Gold Star families and [a] Gold Star mother not realizing her pain. Shame on him! Shame on his family!" Khizr Khan said, struggling to hold back his anger. "He is not worthy of our comments. He has no decency. He is void of decency, he has a dark heart."
So Khan is shaming Trumps' family (Melania, Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka, etc.) for his comment. Trump at least acknowledged his loss and his son's hero status. Khan said Trump sacrificed nothing for the country, so Trump responded that he did sacrifice something - he didn't say that his sacrifice is comparable to Khan's. Technically he didn't conclude why the wife didn't speak either. While her pain is real, I can see why Trump doesn't see himself as being in the wrong here -- while in the emotional dimension what he said was a bad strategy. Muslim culture values face, so there is no way Khan will back down either.
MMX2010 · 2016-07-31 12:31:00 · #36810
Decent?
What's less decent than using your son's death to over-simplify the issue of Muslim immigration and granting unearned weight to your political opinions?
What's less decent than using your son's death to over-simplify the issue of Muslim immigration and granting unearned weight to your political opinions?
Enoch · 2016-07-31 12:37:00 · #36811
I wonder why Assange hasnt brought up the bogus false rape charge ginned up by the globalists years ago that forced him into hiding.
Kickb · 2016-07-31 12:49:00 · #36812
At this point Khan can fuck off! I hope Trump tells him that 
Liberty Sea · 2016-07-31 12:52:00 · #36813
Trump wins if he wins the swing states. Nothing else matter. Don't get distracted by national polls. Focus on the swing state polls. The RABAResearch Poll that has Trump at 37% nationally also has him at 46% in Virginia (with Clinton at 42). Unless most of the swing state polls show Trump losing to Clinton, we can't say he's the underdog.
Deepdiver · 2016-07-31 12:56:00 · #36814
Honestly Kahn's misplaced rage against Trump rather than the people actually responsible for their son's death via an IED ambush in Iraq - Clinton, W and Obama for continuing and expanding on the policy and ignoring the ISIL reality on the ground such that they gave birth to ISIS - is indicative of the radical islamists belief that they have an Allah inspired right to invade the USA. Kahn's rage has everything to do with the realistic Trump policy of keeping radicalized Islamists and their sympathizers OUT of the USA which is completely CONSTITUTIONAL:
http://truthinmedia.com/reality-check-tr...l-muslims/
Under U.S. Code, the president does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out of the country, for any reason he thinks best. Per 8 USC §1182
“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
Yes, the president has the authority to do exactly what Trump is describing. And by the way, this kind of thing has happened before.
http://truthinmedia.com/reality-check-tr...l-muslims/
Under U.S. Code, the president does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out of the country, for any reason he thinks best. Per 8 USC §1182
“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
Yes, the president has the authority to do exactly what Trump is describing. And by the way, this kind of thing has happened before.
eskimobobseal · 2016-07-31 13:12:00 · #36815
Hillary Clinton can call the families of the Benghazi victims liars and nobody bats an eye. She can support the same neocon foreign policies responsible for killing that guy's son, nobody bats an eye. She along with the Democratic party can exploit the death of a fallen soldier to score political points by attacking a guy who had nothing to do with it AND even opposed the war in which he died in the first place and nobody bats an eye.
Donald Trump asks why a woman didn't speak and refers to some of the sacrifices he made for his country and the media shitstorm ensues.
If we lose this election, I'm going to buy myself a private island and get the fuck away from this sickening group-think collectivist cult that has become Western society.
Donald Trump asks why a woman didn't speak and refers to some of the sacrifices he made for his country and the media shitstorm ensues.
If we lose this election, I'm going to buy myself a private island and get the fuck away from this sickening group-think collectivist cult that has become Western society.
MMX2010 · 2016-07-31 13:13:00 · #36816
KickB,
I agree with you.
Khan's reaction reminds me of Vox Day's excellent article on Gamma versus Alpha. The less Mr. Trump acknowledges Khan, the more agitated Khan becomes, and the more outrageous Khan's words become.
That said, if Mr. Trump wants to shiv Khan right now, he could go with:
"First of all, Katy, no one does better than me with the vets. And everybody knows that the vets love me much more than Hillary."
"Second, Mr. Khan is one of many Americans who have lost their son or daughter in military combat. While all of those deaths are sad, Mr. Khan would be well served to get to know these people, and then ask them what they feel about my positions on radical Islamic terrorism. I strongly believe Mr. Khan would realize how unpopular his positions about me are, if he would do that."
I agree with you.
Khan's reaction reminds me of Vox Day's excellent article on Gamma versus Alpha. The less Mr. Trump acknowledges Khan, the more agitated Khan becomes, and the more outrageous Khan's words become.
That said, if Mr. Trump wants to shiv Khan right now, he could go with:
"First of all, Katy, no one does better than me with the vets. And everybody knows that the vets love me much more than Hillary."
"Second, Mr. Khan is one of many Americans who have lost their son or daughter in military combat. While all of those deaths are sad, Mr. Khan would be well served to get to know these people, and then ask them what they feel about my positions on radical Islamic terrorism. I strongly believe Mr. Khan would realize how unpopular his positions about me are, if he would do that."
Dusty · 2016-07-31 13:22:00 · #36817
I saw the Khan speech while I was in the gym, and the volume was off. Bad optics folks, bad optics.
What I saw was an angry Muslim with his wife beside him with a covered head. I know it's unfair to the decent Muslims, but most Americans have a very negative reaction to seeing pissed off Muslims. The press is probably going to overreach and show that video and this guys subsequent enraged reaction to Trump. It's probably going to backfire on the press.
What I saw was an angry Muslim with his wife beside him with a covered head. I know it's unfair to the decent Muslims, but most Americans have a very negative reaction to seeing pissed off Muslims. The press is probably going to overreach and show that video and this guys subsequent enraged reaction to Trump. It's probably going to backfire on the press.
Jazzman92 · 2016-07-31 13:22:00 · #36818
I just had a funny conversation with my mom. Apparently she liked the fact that Trump challenged Khan about his wife not speaking, when nobody else did. My mom is super red pill, probably more than me, but is always advocating that women fight against the men to take higher positions of power in society. I think in a weird way many feminists, especially the ones who are immigrants, may actually like what Trump is saying because he's challenging the patriarchal Muslim/immigrant culture of the man speaking and woman being on the side.
Praetor Lupus · 2016-07-31 13:27:00 · #36819
(07-31-2016 11:58 AM)scorpion Wrote: In an ideal world, sure. This would be a humanizing and value-adding PR exercise. But Trump simply cannot afford to play this game. The issue is media spin - this would not be portrayed as Trump being a good guy, or being sensitive and reasonable. It would be portrayed - universally in the press - as Trump "backing down", as Trump "apologizing", as Trump "getting schooled by" this random Muslim guy. Finally, the media would say, We stumped Trump! We got him to back down! These are not acceptable optics.
Especially not after taking on the Pope...the fucking Pope and winning.
The Khans have already had all the response they deserve.
I have to wash my Trump shirt and sew the holes in it.
Wear one everywhere! Buy a hat!
Hell, buy me a hat. I'm broke as fuck but would sport that 24/7 even with the ponytail.
Wear one everywhere! Buy a hat!
Hell, buy me a hat. I'm broke as fuck but would sport that 24/7 even with the ponytail.
bigrich · 2016-07-31 14:29:00 · #36821
During the Republican National Convention, a father also emotionally spoke about the loss of his son. His son was killed on the street by an illegal alien looking to kill black men. The media ignored that while giving Khan major coverage. If I was Trump, I would have brought that up.
tomtud · 2016-07-31 14:35:00 · #36822
Manufactured outrage again by the msm
How stupid could he be since it was Hillary along with other senators who voted yes and put their son in harms way.
How stupid could he be since it was Hillary along with other senators who voted yes and put their son in harms way.
tomtud · 2016-07-31 14:39:00 · #36823
Manufactured outrage again by the msm
How stupid could he be since it was Hillary along with other senators who voted yes and put their son in harms way.
How stupid could he be since it was Hillary along with other senators who voted yes and put their son in harms way.
GlobalMan · 2016-07-31 14:44:00 · #36824
(07-31-2016 12:26 PM)Last Parade Wrote: God these slimy Sunday talk show fuckers. I hate them so much.
Manafort on "Meet the Press" with Chuck Todd. Manafort seems off his game in my opinion?
Even though I think Trump should have handled this whole thing better and that a statement was a good idea, watching Khans response in that video left a bad taste in mouth. It was one thing when the mother and father are on stage at the DNC speaking from the heart about their son and their concerns, but his response to Trump's statement is just plainly over the top and vindictive.
"A candidate without moral compass"
"Gold Star Mother"
It is understandable, a family being emotional and hurt, but they normally don't then go on a media blitz trying to denounce a political candidate, making grandiose and ill informed statements, they would be too busy with their pain in private and not care for doing these things.
However I still do believe, as Lizard has been saying, that Trump could have benefited from showing a more sympathetic side on occasions like these, and the suggested meeting could have done a lot of good. The best time would have been yesterday though, and now after Khan speaking out more that possibility may be gone for good unfortunately, as no doubt the hag's campaign is guiding him now. It could have reassured certain voters, especially women as Lizard said.
I have had sympathy for the Khans, simply as humans and parents of a good soldier- but what Mr. Khan is saying now is disingenuous. He may have arrived on the scene with his raw and real emotion, but with this, now, he's doing something else.
Hopefully the campaign will learn to react more swiftly and decisively as time goes on. The planning has improved with Manafort, but they still can be slow to respond to real time events.
Slim Shady · 2016-07-31 15:00:00 · #36825
The Khans are from Pakistan, knowing which is the point at which I stop taking anything they say seriously.
Liberty Sea · 2016-07-31 20:02:00 · #36851
Check out his twitter:
https://twitter.com/RealKhizrKhan
It was made 20 hour ago and has been propagandizing since.
![[Image: PNPWHkS.png]](http://i.imgur.com/PNPWHkS.png)
edit: fake account
https://twitter.com/RealKhizrKhan
It was made 20 hour ago and has been propagandizing since.
edit: fake account
TonySandos · 2016-07-31 20:09:00 · #36852
Everyone in the RedHats Brigade should be sure to make a visible presence in the streets of your municipality until election night. The "His numbers are going down" spin needs to be blatantly countered.
Last Parade · 2016-07-31 20:10:00 · #36853
^ it's almost definitely a parody account; some of those tweets are hilarious, especially that one and the "There hasn't been a radical Islamic terror attack in days, Mr. Trump" one. Absolutely no way that's really the guy and it's awesome.
On par with "Hillary PR Team" at https://twitter.com/onmessageforher (formerly @DemsRRealRacist) as far as excellent parodies go. I love it.
Just spotted this on /pol/
![[Image: WoJ8jwI.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/WoJ8jwI.jpg)
On par with "Hillary PR Team" at https://twitter.com/onmessageforher (formerly @DemsRRealRacist) as far as excellent parodies go. I love it.
Just spotted this on /pol/
RexImperator · 2016-07-31 20:12:00 · #36854
Obviously a fake but funny trolling...