Should the guy who wifed up Perry and then got divorced be giving his opinion at all?

Her boyfriend now

(11-18-2014 06:21 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  Should the guy who wifed up Perry and then got divorced be giving his opinion at all?

I'm going to say "Yes". Married a sex symbol that couldn't divorce rape him, and then went on to bang more celebrity strange. What was the problem?

Yo Riff Raff is hilarious

'I spent $3k on repairing my car. I got ripped off'
People will hear your stories.

'I gave this PUA $3k and I still can't get laid. I got ripped off'
You know you are stupid if you talk about it to other people. What can you do when there is no one (including your daddy and mommy) you can talk to?

Even small claims court clerk will laugh at you
'so you wanted to learn how to pick up women, paid this person $3k and you are not satisfied?' hahahaha

I never saw people defending bad reviews on regular business.

I don't understand why those breeds take their time to defend that's not even part of theirs.

(11-17-2014 05:53 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:51 PM)Faust Wrote:  Something about this subject makes people just melt down. I'm pretty sure that's the second or third ban in this thread.
Are they just really emotionally invested in RSD or something? I don't understand it.

When you've given someone thousands of dollars....It's hard to look in the mirror and say, "I got ripped off."

It's easy to do away with the cognitive dissonance by claiming that the people who ripped you off are actually the good guys.

Humans will twist their brains like pretzels to avoid admitting wrongdoing.

Does any know what Jeffy said about Julian ?

(11-17-2014 01:49 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  If 8chan isn't complying with RSD's demand letter, then why did they lock the julien thread?

Not sure what you're talking about. There are posts from 11/18.

They are screen capping all of the posts that get deleted from RSD.

Even posts asking legitimate questions and that aren't hating are getting deleted. The core guys are getting banned. Etc.

https://8chan.co/takedownjulienblanc/res/7.html

(11-19-2014 03:08 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  Even posts asking legitimate questions and that aren't hating are getting deleted. The core guys are getting banned. Etc.

https://8chan.co/takedownjulienblanc/res/7.html

Now this one is ouch:





Their whole media strategy consisted obviously to create content that is deliberately controversial.

What Owen did not account for is the fact that sometimes you can push the envelope too far.

Also deplorable is his lack of consistency where Owen wanted the Japan video to be pushed to the front as his marketing masterpiece and then a few days later claiming that he did not see it and calling it stupid by Julien. What a schmuck - he should have accepted responsibility for fuck's sake.

Frankly with the right aggressive and professional counter-PR strategy the RSD client base could have even expanded.

^ Haha, now that those are posted there, watch RSD's lawyer send Roosh a takedown notice.

RSD's lawyer has sent them to Pastebin, who for whatever reason have been complying.

Tyler fucked up big time here.

As if the mainstream media really wants to know the truth. You have to really put it forward yourself with a lot of force to even begin to get through. It is not like you wait for someone to come to you, you try and find reasonable journalists who want to listen and understand.

You have to out warrior the social justice warriors, not just lie back and hope it will all clear itself up - which never happens anyway!

Julien's been banned from the UK:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30119100

I find this whole thing to be hilarious.

(11-19-2014 09:59 AM)Big Country Wrote:  Julien's been banned from the UK:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30119100

I find this whole thing to be hilarious.

I find it scary.

(11-19-2014 09:59 AM)Big Country Wrote:  Julien's been banned from the UK:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30119100

I find this whole thing to be hilarious.

This is of course rather sick. Did not know that the people can petition for someone not to enter the country. Democracy is a system where a tiny money minority can convince 51% to vote for extermination of the other 49%.

Julien's deeds are trivial compared to all the raving psychopaths and murderers let into the Western world. Those kind of bans are usually life-long in our new fascist "anti-terror" world.

All those who think that just because only 20% of women declare themselves as feminists, then the movement is losing impetus. Nah - the shitty doctrine has full support of the ruling minority, because the guys at the top are simply not affected by it. This is all such a huge idiotic farce....

There seems to be some kind of revolt on RSD's board for mods deleting posts.

Start here and scroll downwards:

https://8chan.co/takedownjulienblanc/res/7.html#q464

Article on Julien Blanc in the Telegraph mentions Roosh by name:

Link

Quote:Before last week, Julien Blanc would have been known to few outside the “international community of pick-up artists”.

Now more than 150,000 people have signed a petition called for Home Secretary Theresa May to block this Swiss-born American’s entry to the UK – in order to prevent him from running “seduction classes” with techniques which have been described as sexually and emotionally abusive.

On his website, Pimp My Game, Blanc suggests that men “make threats to hurt [a woman]; make her drop charges; make her do illegal things; threaten to report her to welfare; prevent her from taking a job; take her money and humiliate her”.

His tried and tested pickup lines include: “Get down on your knees, call me master, and beg me to kiss you”. A video apparently shows the 25-year-old grabbing women by the throat in his effort to “seduce” them – and he has already been banned from entering Brazil and Australia to lead seduction seminars, which cost hundreds of dollars to attend.

But while currently the most controversial, Blanc is just one example of a large community of pickup artists.

The daddy of the movement is sometimes considered Neil Strauss, whose 2005 book, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists, brought terms like "negging" – when men subtly insult women to undermine their confidence, the idea being that they will seek reassurance and want to impress their would-be seducer - into the popular lexicon.

But Ross Jeffries, the American who wrote How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed in 1988, and who appears in The Game, says Strauss stole his ideas, which include “condiment anchoring” – getting a woman to associate the feeling of being attracted to someone with an object to hand, like a bottle of ketchup, and then bringing her attention back to this object.

“Women hate nice guys,” Jeffries advertised on his website. “Sex Book author Ross Jeffries. The man who turns wimps and geeks into supercharged macho studs.”

While Jeffries claims to be a true original, Eric Weber was making similar promises in 1970 in his “seminal” work “How to Pick Up Girls!” – the original edition of which offered “Interviews with 25 beautiful women!” as its strapline.

Some of Weber’s observations will be familiar to followers of Blanc, for example his description of a fantasy girl so beautiful that “for an instant you even consider rape.”

He also suggests peace demonstrations as great places for picking up women, even if the reader is pro-war. “I’ve heard countless stories of guys who have picked up fantastic broads in peace demonstrations.”

And what lines should men use to attract these women’s attention? “You’re Miss Ohio, aren’t you?...Are you French?...Don’t tell me a beautiful girl like you doesn’t have a date tonight.”

Other advice includes: “Try on some of the new wild clothes. Bell bottoms and English boots and wide ties. Wear a body shirt or dungarees or a groovy vest…Think sexy. Think, I am a virile male animal.”

One of Blanc’s controversial contemporaries in the PUA (pickup artist) “movement” is the 35-year-old Daryush Valizadeh, an American of Armenian descent and the author of a series of books which instruct tourists how to “bang” women in the countries they visit.

“Poor favela chicks are very easy, but quality is a serious problem,” he advises in Bang Brazil. Bang Iceland has been described as a “rape guide”; Don’t Bang Denmark also attracted media attention after he suggested Danish women were impossible to seduce because the high level of social security in Scandinavia meant they were less anxious about finding men to support them.

And it’s not just men who call themselves pickup artists. Arden Leigh worked closely with Neil Strauss before writing The New Rules of Attraction: How to Get Him, Keep Him, and Make Him Beg For More in 2011.

“I am a female pickup artist, and I am frighteningly good at getting what I want,” writes Leigh, who says she uses “neuro-linguistic programming” to manipulate men.

bring them down! hah, I knew he'd get banned and it's scary because the UK government let in Islamists without thinking twice.

Using "game" is now a controversial, potentially criminal issue now.

Must be a confusing time for most normal guys.

(11-19-2014 11:20 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Using "game" is now a controversial, potentially criminal issue now.

Must be a confusing time for most normal guys.

Actual real game done right looks like a normal chance encounter so shouldn't raise an eyebrow.

What these dudes do is retarded and the same goes for dudes chasing down women and jumping in front of them.

(11-17-2014 05:51 PM)Faust Wrote:  Something about this subject makes people just melt down. I'm pretty sure that's the second or third ban in this thread.
Are they just really emotionally invested in RSD or something? I don't understand it.

It's about freedom of speech.

Also when is the last time you saw somebody got banned to enter a whole country (now 3) only because of his ideas?

Like another poster said, it is scary.

(11-19-2014 12:01 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:51 PM)Faust Wrote:  Something about this subject makes people just melt down. I'm pretty sure that's the second or third ban in this thread.
Are they just really emotionally invested in RSD or something? I don't understand it.

It's about freedom of speech.

Also when is the last time you saw somebody got banned to enter a whole country (now 3) only because of his ideas?

Like another poster said, it is scary.

(11-19-2014 12:12 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:01 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:51 PM)Faust Wrote:  Something about this subject makes people just melt down. I'm pretty sure that's the second or third ban in this thread.
Are they just really emotionally invested in RSD or something? I don't understand it.

It's about freedom of speech.

Also when is the last time you saw somebody got banned to enter a whole country (now 3) only because of his ideas?

Like another poster said, it is scary.

I'm no lawyer here, I might be wrong... I would be glad if you can write an intelligent argumentation instead of only communicating with gifs.
This is a bit childish to be honest.

"Also when is the last time you saw somebody got banned to enter a whole country (now 3) only because of his ideas?"

That's not what happened here.
Freedom of speech in many countries does not include the right to say, "Hey, want to get laid? The way to do it is to sexually assault women on the street!"

It may not even be legal in the US; the Feds certainly seem to think it isn't.

(11-19-2014 12:01 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  It's about freedom of speech.

Also when is the last time you saw somebody got banned to enter a whole country (now 3) only because of his ideas?

Like another poster said, it is scary.

A sovereign state is totally within its rights in barring entry to a foreign national if they have reason to believe that the intended purpose of his trip is to encourage or assist in acts that would be crimes in their jurisdiction.

What is worrying is that going forward, we are almost sure to see genuine abuses of this principle, now that the outcry tactic has proven to be so effective.

(11-19-2014 12:16 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:12 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:01 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 05:51 PM)Faust Wrote:  Something about this subject makes people just melt down. I'm pretty sure that's the second or third ban in this thread.
Are they just really emotionally invested in RSD or something? I don't understand it.

It's about freedom of speech.

Also when is the last time you saw somebody got banned to enter a whole country (now 3) only because of his ideas?

Like another poster said, it is scary.

I'm no lawyer here, I might be wrong... I would be glad if you can write an intelligent argumentation instead of only communicating with gifs.
This is a bit childish to be honest.

I did. Twice.

Quote:Freedom of speech doesn't cover incitement, the U.S courts held that over and over again. A man who advocates -whatever you call it, I call it harassment- holding workshops in variant countries to teach and advise his followers to do the same thing is committing incitement.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-41952-...#pid878525

Quote:Can we stop mentioning free speech and Julien in the same sentence? Not every speech is protected by free speech and first amendment. Do some research on free speech before you depict Julien as a freedom fighter.

Furthermore, it's not only his speech that got him banned. He is arguably committing a crime in his videos and advising other people to do the same. He poses a threat to the laws of the countries he wants to visit, revoking his visa is not ''undemocratic'' for God's sake.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-41952-...#pid880850

Interesting answers, much more constructive. Looks like I am really the devil's advocate in this thread, there has to be one for sanity hehe

"That's not what happened here.
Freedom of speech in many countries does not include the right to say, "Hey, want to get laid? The way to do it is to sexually assault women on the street!" "

I thought that sexual assault was related to.... something sexual. Not touching shoulders or grabbing necks. Or yelling pikachu.

"A sovereign state is totally within its rights in barring entry to a foreign national if they have reason to believe that the intended purpose of his trip is to encourage or assist in acts that would be crimes in their jurisdiction."

Ok what is exactly the crime here? Is he raping anyone?
In my view, all the guys who slapped women asses in bar are doing something much more closer to sexual assault. Do you agree with me?

One non sequitur point I want to make, is something Roosh himself talked about on his blog. We are the results of trial and error. I remember he wrote that if telling a girl "i love you" was gonna get a guy's laid, he would be doing this every seconds. Julien spent most of his time in LA, and the kind of extreme asshole behavior you see him doing probably got him laid the most. Can we agree on that?

There are two acts that Julian's described that are illegal:
Grabbing girls at cash registers and kissing them.
Grabbing girls off the street and shoving their faces towards his crotch.

These are crimes in Japan. (Japanese I've spoken to have confirmed this.)
They correspond to what would be "sexual assault" in the US; the laws they violate are the same ones applied to train molestors (Men who take advantage of a crowded train to feel up a girl's butt.)