(04-22-2015 02:19 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 10:41 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  I guess countries are terrified of this "forbidden knowledge" being spread and their sweet innocent virginal women being defiled

Sure....because PUA is SUCH an effective pickup method, and not just a way of separating frustrated, nerdy, beta virgins from their cash.

Seriously, how many PUA's have you ever met with game? Even some of the "best" in the business think that "game" is being able to pick up several girls a year.

Plenty.

Practically everything we preach here on RVF is based on principles developed by PUAs.

That's not to say that I'm in favour of the PUA community.

I don't like how it's indeed based on separating desperate betas and their money.

I much prefer non-profit gaming community, where you can trust the information you get, because no one has a financial incentive to exaggerate results.

But that doesn't mean that the information disseminated within the PUA community isn't blazingly effective when used properly.

(11-04-2014 12:50 AM)Saladin Wrote:  Julien has a massive hard on for drama and pissing people off.

He's been trying to get a massive shitstorm like this going for months now, hence why he puts out obnoxious videos like this(which he obviously cut to make it good controversy material).

I don't agree with what he's doing, and I do think something like this is damaging to foreigners and especially white dudes. There was that other RSD guy(David Bond) who pissed of tons of people as well with his "stealing a girl from her boyfriend" video. Obviously he didn't understand cultural context, a lot of RSD students tend to lack cultural sensitivity. IMO Rooshvforum seems to be much better with helping guys understand cultural differences, instead of blindly rampaging through various cultures.

However, this was orchestrated. He exaggerated this as much as possible to create a media shitstorm. His game is airtight, he simply chooses to showcase those short clips for controversy's sake. In many ways he reminds me of a little kid in a candy store and in real life he's extremely charismatic and has a great vibe. He just has an obsession with creating drama, which is what a lot of his game is.

Julien was actually *trying* to replicate the media storm I had created



Julien, at the time, wasn't being genuine about anything - he was being a character.

I actually spoke out against it being totally dumb



I was later banned and blacklisted from RSD

(12-07-2015 08:02 PM)DavidBond Wrote:  Julien was actually *trying* to replicate the media storm I had created

Sorry what? Your storm didnt even register on the radar.

(12-07-2015 08:36 PM)pialox Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 08:02 PM)DavidBond Wrote:  Julien was actually *trying* to replicate the media storm I had created

Sorry what? Your storm didnt even register on the radar.

It was in hong kong/Taiwan

Don't know who any of these people are, sounds like a circle jerk.

(12-07-2015 09:59 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Don't know who any of these people are, sounds like a circle jerk.

It's much much worse than a circle jerk. It's a circle jerk that people pay to watch.

Is RSDnation still relatively big? In the late 2000s, it really took off. That's where I first learned about PUA

That David guy is a huge attention whore and now it looks like he is trying to get some here.....

(12-07-2015 08:42 PM)DavidBond Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 08:36 PM)pialox Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 08:02 PM)DavidBond Wrote:  Julien was actually *trying* to replicate the media storm I had created

Sorry what? Your storm didnt even register on the radar.

It was in hong kong/Taiwan

I was referring to your self described media storm. Which from what I can tell was just a light shower.

What are the odds that DavidBond has a great product that he'd love to sell us?

(12-07-2015 10:53 PM)hedonist Wrote:  That David guy is a huge attention whore and now it looks like he is trying to get some here.....

I've been following Roosh for a long time but never thought about joining the forum, i thought it would be interesting to search for my name and found this, thought i'd respond. What's the big deal

(12-08-2015 12:11 AM)DavidBond Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:53 PM)hedonist Wrote:  That David guy is a huge attention whore and now it looks like he is trying to get some here.....

I've been following Roosh for a long time but never thought about joining the forum, i thought it would be interesting to search for my name and found this, thought i'd respond. What's the big deal

So we can narcissist to the list as well?

(12-08-2015 12:11 AM)DavidBond Wrote:  I've been following Roosh for a long time but never thought about joining the forum, i thought it would be interesting to search for my name and found this, thought i'd respond. What's the big deal

It's cool. As long as you don't push any of that RSD crap, and don't freak out during your mandatory 'opinionated newbies trial by fire', all will be well. But I don't think there is a single RSD supporter that has survived yet. They pop up from time to time and get clipped pretty quickly.

Feminists are trying to stop their new tour:

Quote:Melbourne comedian Kirsty Mac, who helped chase Mr Blanc out of the country, said her group was organising to stop the new seminars.

"Our aim is to get them booted out of the country, because the government set a precedent kicking Julien Blanc out of the country and these guys are the same," she said.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/deported-...m77z1.html

They went ahead and cancelled one of the RSD guys' visa.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/p...m8r3r.html

Quote:'Pick up' instructor Jeff 'Jeffy' Allen has Australian visa cancelled

A US man who had come to Australia to hold seminars on how to "pick up" women has had his visa cancelled on character grounds.

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has announced that the Immigration Department had found the man was "without legitimate cause to be here" and did not meet Australia's character test.

..

Mr Dutton said that after asking his department to review the latest Real Social Dynamics case, "a person associated with this particular movement has had his visa cancelled. The person's already out of Australia anyway".

Real Social Dynamics had previously removed its Australian seminar dates from its website.

There was noise about this in the New Zealand media the past two days but it hasn't taken off.

They tried to start a hashtag yesterday with no result at all. Infact I think they have removed the hashtag from the articles because I can't remember it and am trying to find it (probably because when I last checked there were literally only 3 hashtag search results, all from media sites).

As much as I can't stand RSD, I would still fight for him to be allowed entrance because I want a Roosh V NZ lecture.

RSD is telling the media that all the shows are canceled, but this is probably a ploy to get the media off their tail.

No doubt RSD would have been watching Roosh and the team with his tours and be using all the tricks they learned.

I don't believe that RSD would just cancel all tours. They are all about $$$$ and tours = $$$$.

RSD has plenty of other instructors to do the tour, but this is of course a dangerous precedent.

Essentially in the future it might be possible for the government to simply censor an idea. It is similar to the new totalitarian Chinese internet policy where your opinions and those of your net-friends are going to impact your credit score:
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/27/opinio...-creemers/

Feminists are crazy and it is a sight to behold that a goverment gladly accept their idiotic bidding. The propaganda of our system runs so deep that the SJWs don't even realize that they are doing the work for Big Brother for them. There is no reason for a thought police - the general population will be the new draconian thought police.

Meanwhile there are plenty of ex-cons, convicted murders, suspected terrorists, real terrorists (fresh from ISIS), con-men (who swindled folk from hundreds of millions or billions), who will be admitted entry into any Western country. But a man teaching other men how to pick up women - that is indeed the problem here. They are all stark laving lunatics and absolutely brainwashed while the guys at the top laugh their heads off about the stupidity of the sheep.

NZ girls are probably just happy the fellas are giving them some attention, even if it is some joking choking and crass head on dick action.

Yeah very easy to please haha.

War on free speech..by chicks no one wants to learn how to pick up..

I met some young Lesbians the other night.They were really nice.Which surprised me..I'm talking a club full of them..Better than these Femnazis.
How RSD can be tied into domestic violence is beyond me..
There is a call by the Greens to ban all pick up seminars.

Talk about amateur hour. These guys don't really seem to get past the first stage of game do they?

(01-18-2016 11:43 PM)Tigre Wrote:  They went ahead and cancelled one of the RSD guys' visa.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/p...m8r3r.html

Quote:'Pick up' instructor Jeff 'Jeffy' Allen has Australian visa cancelled

A US man who had come to Australia to hold seminars on how to "pick up" women has had his visa cancelled on character grounds.

To be fair, isn't Jeffy the one who brags about having a rape van? If you plan to pass "character grounds" visa tests in the future, probably don't brag about having a rape van on the internet.

The real reason he's getting banned is that he's just an individual who holds off-colour beliefs.

If he had hundreds of millions of followers, and had an even more extreme belief system that included summary execution of homosexuals, legal sex slavery, and wife beating (as long as you follow beating etiquette), he'd not only be let in, but vocally supported.

This is very bad news from Australia.

If Allen is banned from the country, any red pill activist, as commercial as he can be, can get banned as well.

I know RSD is not popular here, for many good reasons, but even if they are a commercial enterprise , they do teach pick up, game and also red pill principles to thousands of young men and this is good for our movement.

How many people discovered game through RSD and arrived here after, I sure did.

I just hope they could stop diluting their teachings and get back to their glory years, if only that meant to stay exclusively in the United States.

(01-19-2016 09:16 AM)Curunír Wrote:  How many people discovered game through RSD and arrived here after, I sure did.

Nah, I don't think they help us much. Sure, we're all out to make money. But these fuckers are leading young men up the garden path. They're no different to homeopaths. Just scum, basically. Perhaps I'm overly sensitive to that particular thing, but damaging young men's lives for your own personal satisfaction is sick.

They won't dare provide good advice because it will eat into their bottom line. That's why their pathetic turd of a leader is famed for saying "looks and money don't matter". You should buy their DVD's of "magic words" and attend their multi-thousand dollar "bootcamps" to learn how to "hit on girls in our special magical way".

The only time they've kind of advocated going overseas is when Julien did his thing in Japan -- which made things worse for us because it inflames the local cock-blocker white knights. I've never heard them advocate getting in the gym to get better looking, or heading to south-america, or improving your income / style / having an interesting life. They don't even advocate well-rounded ways to meet women. Nope -- just keep spam approaching in bars and clubs and saying their magic bullshit.

Your deference to them is misplaced.

I respect your opinion , even though it looks more like a sluthate internet site rant than a sound reflexion .

Rsd does teach getting to the gym, they do teach making many approaches which is the essence of cold approach pick up , they do teach that looks matter , they also give many content free .

Empowering men to approach and date any women they want , self improve their life , focus better , get off drugs and alcohol , band with other men , these are things rsd teach .

They actually do teach all the time the necessity to make more income, be mobile and be more independent.

"Owen Cook a pathetic turd", is it really necessary to bring on such hate?

Do they have flaws ? Sure

Should we consider them as enemies or cancer ? No for the sake of God they teach pick up and game this is what men need .

I hope were aloud to respect rsd for what they builded and follow roosh for what he teaches and proposes politically as well.