RSD perpetuates the horrible image of "pick up artists" as huge faggots who spam approach. Before I found this forum I would abhor the idea of even being considered in the same realm as them.

RSD is part of the cancer that perpetuates the egos of women. The sooner they go out of business the better.

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There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

(01-19-2016 10:51 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

Not to mention they'll support banning PUA's trying to get laid but support rapefugees.

Everything feminists say are lies, never support anything they do. I also wonder if RSD had used a Black instructor to harass females would feminists give a shit?

RSD needs to get an Arab looking guy on their pay-roll post haste and play up the racist angle if the cunts try to get him banned.

^^^
Imagine an instructor disguising himself as a rapefugee just to get in. The irony!

They'd stop Tyler and Julien at the border, but RSDHassan walks in no problem.

(01-19-2016 10:51 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

This to me is the crux of the issue. Excellent point.

(01-19-2016 11:40 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:51 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

This to me is the crux of the issue. Excellent point.

Not a sentiment that goes down well on this forum unfortunately.

(01-19-2016 10:51 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

The mob action against them and against me in Canada were very similar (petition, news media, politicians speaking out, etc).

The final outcomes, however, were quite different.

(01-19-2016 11:31 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:51 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

Not to mention they'll support banning PUA's trying to get laid but support rapefugees.

Everything feminists say are lies, never support anything they do. I also wonder if RSD had used a Black instructor to harass females would feminists give a shit?

Serious question, has RSD ever had any black instructors(or non white instructors)? I don't know that much about them, but it seems like their audiences are mostly white, they use mostly white instructors.

They have a new instructor his name is Madison , he is black but has been in pua since 2004.

He organized the only venue of David d out of USA in 2005 in Montreal with Cliff.

He is from Montreal .

We need to corral the rsd crowd to us and I will sure do my part .

(01-19-2016 11:31 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Not to mention they'll support banning PUA's trying to get laid but support rapefugees.

Don't worry. The rapefugees have all passed the character test.

(01-19-2016 11:31 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 10:51 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  There is zero difference in the eyes of the public between RVF and RSD. If you support the witch hunt against RSD because the particulars of their business model or approach to game, then fuck, I have some rope to sell you brah.

Not to mention they'll support banning PUA's trying to get laid but support rapefugees.

Everything feminists say are lies, never support anything they do. I also wonder if RSD had used a Black instructor to harass females would feminists give a shit?

Meanwhile the ''polite'' rapefugees negotiate over the price:

Quote:Man: 'Can I make sex with you?'

Girl: 'What did you say?'

Man: 'Can I make sex with you?'

Girl: 'But, he tried to touch my a**, do you think that's ok?'

Man: 'Who?'

Girl:'He, the guy who just walked past, your friend! Is it ok to touch my a**, or what?'

Man: 'I don't understand what you mean.'

Girl: 'I'm sorry? What don't you understand? He touched my a**. You'r friend grabbed my a**, what do you want? What do you want?'

Man: 'No, No. Can I make sex with you?'

Girl: 'No. Never.'

Man: 'Why?'

Girl: 'Absolutely not. Go! Leave!'

Man: 'Why?'

Girl: 'I am recording this whole thing, so yeah, mate keep going.'

Man: 'I'll give you money.'

Girl: 'What did you say? Do you think I'm a w****?'

Man: 'Calm down, I'll give you money.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...t-men.html

(01-19-2016 09:48 PM)Curunír Wrote:  We need to corral the rsd crowd to us and I will sure do my part .

There is a lot of hero worship and cult mentality in the RSD crowd, something that is much less common here.

Your statement above is actually a good example of that exact mentality.

(01-19-2016 09:45 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I respect your opinion , even though it looks more like a sluthate internet site rant than a sound reflexion .

Rsd does teach getting to the gym, they do teach making many approaches which is the essence of cold approach pick up , they do teach that looks matter , they also give many content free .

The only reason they teach any of that shit is because in this day and age they literally can't get by lying like they used to.
Self improvement is so mainstream now they would look like dinosaurs if they didn't jump on the bandwagon.

Notice the only time they had any sort of success (and that's stretching it) is when they brought in decent looking instructors?

(01-19-2016 09:45 AM)Curunír Wrote:  Empowering men to approach and date any women they want , self improve their life , focus better , get off drugs and alcohol , band with other men , these are things rsd teach .

They actually do teach all the time the necessity to make more income, be mobile and be more independent.

"Owen Cook a pathetic turd", is it really necessary to bring on such hate?

Do they have flaws ? Sure

Should we consider them as enemies or cancer ? No for the sake of God they teach pick up and game this is what men need .

I hope were aloud to respect rsd for what they builded and follow roosh for what he teaches and proposes politically as well.

I've watched these idiots destroy some of my favorite hangs outs by spamming everything in sight and putting girls up on the defense.

They can literally fuck the whole bar for the night.

These guys are just as bad for men as radical feminism is.

Its a really sad state of affairs to see "Tyler" literally the Wizard of Oz leading men even more astray...that's how fucking pathetic men are these days!

Strangely enough when the Julien incident went down it was discovered Nick Kho had another website teaching women how to avoid guys that learned rsd style pickup...if that doesn't tell you anything I don't know what will.

I didn't really give this jab an adequate response (I was short on time), so I'll do so now.

(01-19-2016 09:45 AM)Curunír Wrote:  Rsd does teach getting to the gym, they do teach making many approaches which is the essence of cold approach pick up , they do teach that looks matter , they also give many content free .

Empowering men to approach and date any women they want , self improve their life , focus better , get off drugs and alcohol , band with other men , these are things rsd teach .

They actually do teach all the time the necessity to make more income, be mobile and be more independent.

"Owen Cook a pathetic turd", is it really necessary to bring on such hate?

Do they have flaws ? Sure

Should we consider them as enemies or cancer ? No for the sake of God they teach pick up and game this is what men need .

I hope were aloud to respect rsd for what they builded and follow roosh for what he teaches and proposes politically as well.

Maybe RSD has changed since I used to watch their videos (a lot of them, probably every Todd / Julien / Jeffy / Brad video on YouTube), many years ago when I was clueless. However I doubt they've changed very much. The most recent time I saw one of their videos, was the one this thread was started about.

I'm not going to call you a complete liar, because I haven't watched any other of their recent materials. It's theoretically possible they've become well-rounded, but given that stunt, I seriously doubt they've changed direction.

Never did they talk about boosting income to improve your chances with women. They always specifically made a point about that being unimportant. Always. At no point did they ever recommend improving your looks. They very strongly towed the party line -- looks don't matter. Jeffy once, in one of his videos, made an offhand remark about going to the gym, then immediately backtracked and explained at length "but no, it's not to improve looks, it's just for fitness and energy" etc. They were always specifically about "what you say, how you say it". What you do in the moment, not who you are as a man.

On Tyler being a pathetic turd, yes I stand by that 100%. Back when I actually gave their work any attention, I made a comment on one of their videos. A serious and respectful question about their looks and money mantra, which they were repeating in that video. As luck would have it on that day, Tyler himself replied to my questions. I'm not going to post his reply here for anonymity reasons, but I've never seen such childish, pathetic, self-delusion and sour grapes come out of the mouth of someone his age. It was just bizarre. I found myself thinking "is this a grown man or a teenager?". The way he sees the world is just an ego-defensive fantasy. He truly is a very small man with personality issues, hiding in his bubble of bullshit.

But what really sums him up is the people who respect him. Some guys like the videos of his instructors, Jeffy etc, because at least some of them are interesting guys. But I remember one guy who told me "he loved RSDTyler", and he watched every video he made. He was also what you'd expect -- ugly, weak, middle-aged but unemployed and broke and on the dole, lazy, no desire to better himself, pathetic loser. But Tyler's videos allowed him to forget all that -- he could live in the fantasy that as long as he approached and said Tyler's magic routines, he could get laid.

Sure, respect them if you want (hopefully as much as "you respected my opinion" ) , but just take note -- if you enter into fan-boy territory, there isn't a single RSD shill who's survived so far here. Also, next time you allude to me being a sluthate poster I'll have to press the report button. I'm not going to just accept insults like that from some nobody who can barely speak English.

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(01-22-2016 01:31 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  I didn't really give this jab an adequate response (I was short on time), so I'll do so now.

(01-19-2016 09:45 AM)Curunír Wrote:  Rsd does teach getting to the gym, they do teach making many approaches which is the essence of cold approach pick up , they do teach that looks matter , they also give many content free .

Empowering men to approach and date any women they want , self improve their life , focus better , get off drugs and alcohol , band with other men , these are things rsd teach .

They actually do teach all the time the necessity to make more income, be mobile and be more independent.

"Owen Cook a pathetic turd", is it really necessary to bring on such hate?

Do they have flaws ? Sure

Should we consider them as enemies or cancer ? No for the sake of God they teach pick up and game this is what men need .

I hope were aloud to respect rsd for what they builded and follow roosh for what he teaches and proposes politically as well.

Maybe RSD has changed since I used to watch their videos (a lot of them, probably every Todd / Julien / Jeffy / Brad video on YouTube), many years ago when I was clueless. However I doubt they've changed very much. The most recent time I saw one of their videos, was the one this thread was started about.

I'm not going to call you a complete liar, because I haven't watched any other of their recent materials. It's theoretically possible they've become well-rounded, but given that stunt, I seriously doubt they've changed direction.

Never did they talk about boosting income to improve your chances with women. They always specifically made a point about that being unimportant. Always. At no point did they ever recommend improving your looks. They very strongly towed the party line -- looks don't matter. Jeffy once, in one of his videos, made an offhand remark about going to the gym, then immediately backtracked and explained at length "but no, it's not to improve looks, it's just for fitness and energy" etc. They were always specifically about "what you say, how you say it". What you do in the moment, not who you are as a man.

On Tyler being a pathetic turd, yes I stand by that 100%. Back when I actually gave their work any attention, I made a comment on one of their videos. A serious and respectful question about their looks and money mantra, which they were repeating in that video. As luck would have it on that day, Tyler himself replied to my questions. I'm not going to post his reply here for anonymity reasons, but I've never seen such childish, pathetic, self-delusion and sour grapes come out of the mouth of someone his age. It was just bizarre. I found myself thinking "is this a grown man or a teenager?". The way he sees the world is just an ego-defensive fantasy. He truly is a very small man with personality issues, hiding in his bubble of bullshit.

But what really sums him up is the people who respect him. Some guys like the videos of his instructors, Jeffy etc, because at least some of them are interesting guys. But I remember one guy who told me "he loved RSDTyler", and he watched every video he made. He was also what you'd expect -- ugly, weak, middle-aged but unemployed and broke and on the dole, lazy, no desire to better himself, pathetic loser. But Tyler's videos allowed him to forget all that -- he could live in the fantasy that as long as he approached and said Tyler's magic routines, he could get laid.

Sure, respect them if you want (hopefully as much as "you respected my opinion" ) , but just take note -- if you enter into fan-boy territory, there isn't a single RSD shill who's survived so far here. Also, next time you allude to me being a sluthate poster I'll have to press the report button. I'm not going to just accept insults like that from some nobody who can barely speak English.

Hi French is my first language, give me a couple chances before you report me.

I though this post you made was very good, you have some valid points.

I'm met all these RDS instructors before in various cities, I got a long with them and I don't consider my game substantially different than theirs, if anything they are in the business of teaching guys who are often basically retarded to believe in themselves and empower them to be able to approach, talk, befriend and eventually date and sleep with women.

Some of these guys have terrible looks or physical or mental issues, of course you cannot say to them you guys will never get laid you better settle for crap.

That actually is what slut hate or PUA deniers say.

There is a place for pick up companies and I think they do more good then harm, and they have helped me and many people I know.

Isn't this what Roosh meant when he said game would of saved Elliot Rodgers ? Game needs to come to young men and game is the best if not only gateway drug to becoming red pill .

If you have not had sex with many girls in many situations , through cold approach pick up , you cannot be red pill because scarcity will destroy your will and congruence .

As for as I'm concerned, I became able to approach, date and fuck any women I want in part because of teaching from pickup companies, such as RSD, so yes I do feel grateful in a way.

I hope we can disagree on this, best regards.

(01-23-2016 04:42 PM)Curunír Wrote:  Hi French is my first language, give me a couple chances before you report me.

(01-23-2016 04:42 PM)Curunír Wrote:  As for as I'm concerned, I became able to approach, date and fuck any women I want in part because of teaching from pickup companies, such as RSD, so yes I do feel grateful in a way.

I hope that last paragraph has something to do with English being your second language.....

Dude now claiming it's really all just been about attention whoring and that he likes to wreck the reputation of foreigners abroad for personal gain.

Full article:

Quote:My name is David Bond, and I make a living approaching Asian women on youtube and selling travel guides online. In the past two years I’ve successfully tricked, trolled and pranked the media in Asia into giving me millions and millions of free traffic.

I’ve been on televised Eastern news over 35 times and have been the subject of controversy in many parts of Asia for the past two years over my YouTube channel and my travel guides.



How It All Began


In 2014 I had a video that took place in Hong Kong go viral. It was a video where a friend of mine appeared to steal a Chinese guy’s girlfriend from him. The video topped out at 3.5 million views and made the news in Hong Kong for about two months. The truth was the guy wasn’t not only her boyfriend but was a random guy who just started talking to her.

All of this attention at first was very scary. Thousands of people were accusing me of being this bad guy, and my reaction was to try and set the story straight. There was so much racial debate swirling around the video, which was based on lies about me and what happened.



After many inquiries, I finally agreed to short interviews with Hong Kong media outlets. I remember answering their questions, trying to give long and detailed answers about the truth and why the controversy was completely based on false assumptions made by the viewers.

Many of these media outlets seemed annoyed over the real story and so resorted to asking me personal questions about my sex life. Eventually I did answer some of them honestly. I later looked over the coverage of my interview and noticed none of the honest answers I spent so much time giving them were featured, but instead they highlighted the very brief answers of mine which were sexual in nature.

Essentially the media outlets had no interest in what really happened because the truth did not fit the national narrative — which is that foreigners are sexual deviants, or that foreign influence is not good for the country.

I noticed that while all of my efforts to explain the real story and to justify myself were completely ignored, anything I’d say or show that fit the narrative would instantly blow up.

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My Strategy

Drunk and bored one night, I messaged one of the media outlets on Facebook to tell them I had another video from Hong Kong that involved different girls.

One hour later my “lie” was put into a front-page article.

During this time I’d pay virtual assistants to translate articles about me. I noticed similar words in the headlines and eventually figured out what words in Chinese were being used to describe me. I’d Google those words and found other articles about foreigners being “bad boys” that were written long before me.

Some of these stories were so innocent it was almost confusing why they were newsworthy.

I realized I made a discovery, and I had an idea on how to trigger this attention on demand.

I tested my theory, and it worked.

I launched my first website, which was a website where people would have to pay $17 to get access to videos I uploaded of me traveling, on dates, or exploring different countries. All of the videos were innocent: for example, a 45-minute video of me riding a motorbike in Vietnam or a video of me and my girlfriend in Japan looking at temples.

I then told the media outlets that covered me that I launched a website with videos from Hong Kong.

I then paid dozens of virtual assistants to lie and message the media outlets in Chinese that my website contained sexual videos.

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It worked, and within days thousands of dollars were being dumped into my bank account by Chinese men who believed the Hong Kong media — who by the way did absolutely zero fact-checking.

I was literally turning lies into profit.

Keep in mind, the website did not mention sexuality or claim to host anything sexual at all. I directly was not lying to anyone or scamming anyone. It’s not like the website said, “Pay for sexual videos” or anything. It simply said, “Check out more of my travel videos.”

In addition to that I had no guilt over this because technically my reputation was being completely destroyed online by Asian media outlets. For example, if CNN did a story about me being a rapist with absolutely no evidence, I could sue for defamation — but these scumbag Asian outlets had no problem completely lying about who I am, what I do, or what I think. The opportunity to have another flashy “foreigners are bad” story was too good to let facts or truth get in the way of the attention.

To this day my jaw still drops over the factual claims made about me with zero evidence. One Korean news channel even said I teach men to scream “Pikachu” at women and that I sell porn.

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How to Score Asian Media Coverage

In the past two years, after dozens of translations and study of Asian-based media outlets, I’ve developed an attention trigger system that allows me to essentially troll the Eastern media for traffic.

How?

So essentially i’ve identified which Asian countries have a cultural narrative that involves foreigner fear and found a way to exploit it on demand for profit.

In many parts of Asia there’s a cultural narrative that states foreigners and foreign influence is bad, and so anything that seems to reinforce that idea is an easy story for Eastern-based news outlets. To make an analogy that people might understand, in liberal parts of the United States there’s a cultural narrative that gun laws should be more strict, so any story of gun violence is instantly put all over the news — whereas a story of guns being used to stop crime never make the news. The principle is that news runs on people’s attention, and anything that re-enforces the existing beliefs of the people is a quick and easy way to get attention.

In a way, i’ve come up with a way to convert racism, lies, and hate into cash.

Here’s an example me trolling my way into a magazine.

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I paid two virtual assistants to message Face magazine that they had a “David Bond Sighting” in Hong Kong, and shortly after they asked me if I was. I then pretended to be shocked that they knew I was in Hong Kong (I was really at my mom’s house in Fresno, California.)

I asked my girlfriend at the time to get in her panties and pretend to pull my pants down. I uploaded the video and told Face magazine that I was with a Hong Kong girl and was too busy to chat. Knowing the formula I knew this would work. It had all the right elements: foreigner seducing local girls, hints at a sexual video, etc. A week later someone sent me a photo of the front page of the magazine and it had a screenshot from the video we recorded.

My girlfriend and I laughed our heads off as the Paypal notifications rolled in from all the traffic my YouTube channel and website had received from my trolling.

During this time to keep my story alive i’d use fake facebook accounts acting as young asian girls who claimed to knew me in real life. Having read so many ‘foreigners are bad’ stories I knew exactly the type of content they we’re excited to blow up. I’d proceed to “leak” photos of myself as well as short stories about myself – anything that would make me appear as some sexual predator with the power to bed local girls would instantly go viral and keep sales going.

I’d ask my girlfriend in the US to wear one of her Japanese school girl outfits, then leak a photo of me with a “Japanese girl” in Japan. I’d pretend to be a girl and “leak” photos of me at clubs with girls. I’d leak photos of me with girls I used to date from years ago, and claim they were in whatever country I was trolling that week.

If you watch the David Bond News Coverage Compilation v 1.0 video you can see the photos they show, almost all of them were leaked by me, but the news reports it as “an anonymous source”

Here’s another example.


I noticed a small bump in Korean traffic from my channel and tracked the source and noticed there was a Korean blog that covered my channel. The article said I had a YouTube channel where I pick up girls in Japan and also sold a video guide on how to get laid in Japan.

A copycat blog then covered the same story, and I knew it was a great time to pour some gasoline on the small fire.

I quickly edited a fake trailer announcing “Korea: By David Bond,” the “guide” on getting Korean girls. I made a quick landing page that said “Stay Tuned” with a fake Photoshopped plane ticket showing that I was going to Korea.

I uploaded the video and even bragged to my friends in my private Facebook group that it would make news in a week.

The video got 30,000 views in 24 hours, and within two days I was all over the Korean news.

In the next seven days I had over 2 million hits in traffic.

The Korean media made a story about an “American playboy” coming to Korea and how local women should watch out. They also claimed I sell porn and scream “Pikachu” at girls. I don’t know where the Pikachu thing or the pornstar thing came from, but whatever.

Knowing that internet porn in Korea is illegal, I hiked my prices for all my digital products. One video site went from $17 to $197. I then hiked my Japan guide and hiked the upsells by 40 percent.

My trolling worked as planned — another gullible Eastern media outlet vomiting regurgitated rumors with no fact-checking.

The good thing about my latest traffic trigger troll was the whole thing paid my rent for the next two years. Thanks, Korea.

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There’s No Such Thing as Bad Publicity

As tempting as it is to try and clear my name or correct the lies about me, it’s in my best interest for the hate, the rumors, and the lies to spread — hate, lies, and rumors all drive traffic and sales.

The good thing is many of my fans only knew about me from the bad press I helped to create, and many of my haters slowly turn into fans.

The truth is despite being American, my content really resonates with a predominantly Eastern male demographic. In fact, over 95 percent of my sales are from the East. Based on the non-stop interaction I have with my audience, many men in the East feel more cultural pressure to behave in a polite way, and this can make meeting girls more difficult, especially if they’re strangers. So watching a person who is behaving free of the pressure can evoke extreme hate or extreme inspiration.

In fact I get many private messages secretly thanking me for content.

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One of my favorite moments happened recently in Bangkok, where I’m currently living. I was approached by a Japanese guy who asked if I was David Bond. He said, “Wow! I love your videos!” and we talked for a bit. We later went to a strip club together and had a few laughs.

I’m going to take a small break from the Eastern media button pushing. I launched “Thailand — A Single Man’s Guide” and am currently living in Thailand. Two years of media manipulation and trolling is still driving traffic and sales. For now I just want to enjoy life in Thailand where all I do is sleep in late, swim in my rooftop pool with my girlfriends, and go out to do street photography. Besides, if things ever get slow I have an atomic media troll in my back pocket for emergencies.

Stay tuned.

http://thericedaily.com/david-bond-asian-girls/

▲ Incredible backwards rationalisation that even my girlfriend would be proud of. Whatever makes him feel comfortable I guess.

(05-10-2016 07:12 AM)atlant Wrote:  Dude now claiming it's really all just been about attention whoring and that he likes to wreck the reputation of foreigners abroad for personal gain.

http://thericedaily.com/david-bond-asian-girls/

Seems like the reputation of foreigners was wrecked long before he got there. He just capitalized on their ignorance.

When this little chimp was posting here in the travel section most of us called him out as a self promoting dork to begin with.

Just forget he even exists. Dude obviously thrives on attention.

If the above is true, then it's a good guide on how to use trolling to make money.