I am sure its been mentioned in this thread before but for some reason I cant find it. Does anyone have any recommendations for an intensive Russian course/class in Kiev? I will be going to Russia for several months later this year and thinking about doing this to brush up a little and get more practice. I would imagine it would be cheaper in Kiev v Moscow for example too

Anyone in Odessa?

I think I'll be in Ukraine this fall for a couple of months
I've been in Kiev last summer (also met lots of RVF guys) and it was good but the nightlife was kind of disappointing, way too many pro and semi pro around and too few normal girls
In the few clubs that had normal girls quality was lacking. During the day it was amazing though, so many hot girls in the subway, bus stops, cafes, parks, hydropark ecc but I was too much of a pussy to approach them

Despite the flaws, I liked it because you can definitely dates up and there are lots of nice, sweet girls around but you need a social circle to get to know them, you can hardly meet them in clubs.
Ukrainian guys were very friendly though so I think it shouldn't be that hard to break into some social circle as long as you stay long term

So, here goes my first post on this forum:

I'm gonna be in Kiev for most of the summer, work-related stuff. But I will also have lots of free time, and being newly single, I thought I'd ask for some advice on here.

What websites/apps do you recommend, game-wise, for Kiev? From reading this thread, the nightlife seems to be full of semi-pros and thirsty sex tourists, so it might be better to meet the chicks online and arrange stuff before arriving there. So which online services have a good female-to-male ratio, and what works best for you personally?

(I have Tinder, which I haven't used in awhile, but that's it. I also use Couchsurfing a lot on my travels, but I'm not sure if it works for picking up chicks...also don't want to get banned for using it as a sex app)

mamba.ru
tinder also works wonders for me every time i land outside of italy

Thanks for the tip!

Since I'm really a newbie to different kinds of - what kind of approach works best for you on Mamba.ru? Same as the usual direct "Tinder game"? Or more of a slower introduction of yourself?

depends on your targets I guess, the older they are the more of a LTR they will want (already from 25yo and up!)
Also, not that straightforward to find those that speak/write in english. When you do, they will already be interested in foreigners implicitly.
Most of them also screen for sex tourists, so get your background story right.

Is July good in Odessa, or is August strictly the time to go?

Hi Guys,

I will be in Kiev for 10 days end of the month. I will write a full report. I know 10 days is not a lot of time here so I'm not expecting anything other than having fun. This is my break down for my day-by-day plan. Please give input / feedback.

Day 1 (thurs): I land at 17:40, Im staying near Independence square. Ill drop my stuff off, and immediately start day gaming, Around the square, and Khreshchatyk, ill look for cafes I can date girls around here too. Heard Nikka bar is good and right next to my place. Hyatt bar also looks good.

Later on I went to check out Avalon so I will go there around sunset, whilst its nearby, check out st voldomyrs. Then Ill go back and sleep for a big day tomorrow.

Day 2 (fri): Again daygame the same area, all day, no Idates just number farming for the evening dates or tomorrow. At some point I want to check out the vogue cafe, I like fashion and something I want to check out. At night ill go to Carrabbeann club.

Day 3 (sat): Day game, same area. At night go to Chi before 12:30.

Day 4 (sun): Day Game same area.

Day 5 (mon): Day game. Check out Hyatt bar at night.

Day 6 (tues): I want to do some site seeing, so will check out St Andrews, St michaels and st Sophia, theyre all fairly close together. Will do more daygame after.

Day 7 (wed): Go check out Perchersk Lavra, do more daygame. Go to shooters at night - good on a wednesday I heard?

Day 8 (Thurs): daygame.

Day 9 (fri): Daygame then check out UBK club.

Day 10 (Sat): Daygame. Go to Chi again?

Day 11 (Sun) I leave in the evening. So just do whatever I havent done or just keep this day open to whatever.

I will be reading Bange Unkraine before I go. Ive also started to plan answers to common questions:

Why are you here: Im here because my ex gf was Ukranian, she said great things about the place so I wanted to check it out, I already know I will be coming back.

How long will you stay: Im here for 10 days, But I know I want to come back.

I will also say I want to learn the language, I will say that I will be back.

Also im trying to pipeline using mamba.ru

What do you think? Looks like im daygaming at the same place the whole time, should I switch it up, also are these clubs the best ones to go to on the days? Anything else I should be doing whilst im there?

(06-08-2017 12:48 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  Hi Guys,

I will be in Kiev for 10 days end of the month. I will write a full report. I know 10 days is not a lot of time here so I'm not expecting anything other than having fun. This is my break down for my day-by-day plan. Please give input / feedback.

Day 1 (thurs): I land at 17:40, Im staying near Independence square. Ill drop my stuff off, and immediately start day gaming, Around the square, and Khreshchatyk, ill look for cafes I can date girls around here too. Heard Nikka bar is good and right next to my place. Hyatt bar also looks good.

Later on I went to check out Avalon so I will go there around sunset, whilst its nearby, check out st voldomyrs. Then Ill go back and sleep for a big day tomorrow.

Day 2 (fri): Again daygame the same area, all day, no Idates just number farming for the evening dates or tomorrow. At some point I want to check out the vogue cafe, I like fashion and something I want to check out. At night ill go to Carrabbeann club.

Day 3 (sat): Day game, same area. At night go to Chi before 12:30.

Day 4 (sun): Day Game same area.

Day 5 (mon): Day game. Check out Hyatt bar at night.

Day 6 (tues): I want to do some site seeing, so will check out St Andrews, St michaels and st Sophia, theyre all fairly close together. Will do more daygame after.

Day 7 (wed): Go check out Perchersk Lavra, do more daygame. Go to shooters at night - good on a wednesday I heard?

Day 8 (Thurs): daygame.

Day 9 (fri): Daygame then check out UBK club.

Day 10 (Sat): Daygame. Go to Chi again?

Day 11 (Sun) I leave in the evening. So just do whatever I havent done or just keep this day open to whatever.

I will be reading Bange Unkraine before I go. Ive also started to plan answers to common questions:

Why are you here: Im here because my ex gf was Ukranian, she said great things about the place so I wanted to check it out, I already know I will be coming back.

How long will you stay: Im here for 10 days, But I know I want to come back.

I will also say I want to learn the language, I will say that I will be back.

Also im trying to pipeline using mamba.ru

What do you think? Looks like im daygaming at the same place the whole time, should I switch it up, also are these clubs the best ones to go to on the days? Anything else I should be doing whilst im there?

With that much daygame you will have no time for bangs.

Quote:Why are you here: Im here because my ex gf was Ukranian, she said great things about the place so I wanted to check it out, I already know I will be coming back.

Dont use it. Seems like you are stalking your ex girlfriend.

(06-08-2017 10:34 AM)Themin Wrote:  depends on your targets I guess, the older they are the more of a LTR they will want (already from 25yo and up!)
Also, not that straightforward to find those that speak/write in english. When you do, they will already be interested in foreigners implicitly.
Most of them also screen for sex tourists, so get your background story right.

Haha, I created an account on Mamba.ru and already got a bunch of profile views and messages from 30-something women who seemed slightly desperate - same as POF, from what I know. Also noticed that others use the site to look for a sugar daddy. I suppose I'll filter my searches for below-30s and English-speakers.

I'm in Ukraine for actual work projects, and to meet a few old Ukrainian friends again, so getting laid isn't my primary goal there. Don't need to invent a fake backstory. But I guess a really wide definition of "sex tourist" would include most of us here...What are some common shit-tests and screening questions that foreign guys get from local chicks?

(06-08-2017 12:08 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  Is July good in Odessa, or is August strictly the time to go?

Had the same question, since I'm going by Odessa at the summer's end.

I imagine Odessa is the same as many summer partytowns...end of August will have more sex-starved leftover women who missed out on the high summer sexcations.

(06-08-2017 04:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Quote:Why are you here: Im here because my ex gf was Ukranian, she said great things about the place so I wanted to check it out, I already know I will be coming back.

Dont use it. Seems like you are stalking your ex girlfriend.

The statement sounds like im stalking her, or you think im stalking her?

Ill think of something else. Cant think of what right now anyone used anything with success?

(06-08-2017 05:43 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 04:46 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Quote:Why are you here: Im here because my ex gf was Ukranian, she said great things about the place so I wanted to check it out, I already know I will be coming back.

Dont use it. Seems like you are stalking your ex girlfriend.

The statement sounds like im stalking her, or you think im stalking her? I do have a ukranian ex gf by the way.

Ill think of something else. Cant think of what right now anyone used anything with success?

What may sound to your interlocutor is that you are hypothetically stalking your ex-girlfriend.

(06-08-2017 12:08 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  Is July good in Odessa, or is August strictly the time to go?

I spent July and August in Odessa last year. No difference between July and August: plenty of people.

I visited in April to find a place and things were still quiet and the beach clubs were still being assembled.

I didn't go in May or June, so I don't know what it's like then, but I think it would still be good.

So, my first couple days on Mamba.ru were pretty noneventful (although another site landed me two dates...let's see what happens), and I keep getting offers to upgrade to VIP status. Would you guys recommend that?

(It seems non-VIP users can't filter their searches for English-speakers only, plus a lot of chicks are only accessible to VIP users, so this would save me a lot of time and effort. Is it worth it?)

(06-08-2017 12:48 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  Hi Guys,

I will be in Kiev for 10 days end of the month. I will write a full report. I know 10 days is not a lot of time here so I'm not expecting anything other than having fun. This is my break down for my day-by-day plan. Please give input / feedback.

Sounds incredibly dull and exhausting, to be honest. You won't be having much fun with that packed schedule.

This is probably my main reason for trying out Mamba and pre-arranging dates before this trip. I'm genuinely curious about the post-Soviet countries and people. When I'm in a new country, I love doing touristic shit and exploring the local culture a bit - using all that time for daygaming and spam-approaching women, every hour of every day, sounds pretty boring and wasteful. Personally, I'd rather spam-approach online...

(06-11-2017 02:30 PM)Thumbhead Wrote:  So, my first couple days on Mamba.ru were pretty noneventful (although another site landed me two dates...let's see what happens), and I keep getting offers to upgrade to VIP status. Would you guys recommend that?

(It seems non-VIP users can't filter their searches for English-speakers only, plus a lot of chicks are only accessible to VIP users, so this would save me a lot of time and effort. Is it worth it?)

(06-08-2017 12:48 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  Hi Guys,

I will be in Kiev for 10 days end of the month. I will write a full report. I know 10 days is not a lot of time here so I'm not expecting anything other than having fun. This is my break down for my day-by-day plan. Please give input / feedback.

Sounds incredibly dull and exhausting, to be honest. You won't be having much fun with that packed schedule.

This is probably my main reason for trying out Mamba and pre-arranging dates before this trip. I'm genuinely curious about the post-Soviet countries and people. When I'm in a new country, I love doing touristic shit and exploring the local culture a bit - using all that time for daygaming and spam-approaching women, every hour of every day, sounds pretty boring and wasteful. Personally, I'd rather spam-approach online...

Yeah I would recommend getting off Mamba, most girls worth their salt will be only contactable with a VIP profile

Quote:Sounds incredibly dull and exhausting, to be honest. You won't be having much fun with that packed schedule.

Not as dull and wasteful as sitting at home on Mamba spamming sluts when the streets are teeming with beautiful women. At least he's talking to women in real life, spamming or no spamming

Spending one day in Ukraine, leaving tomorrow. Unfortunately arriving in the city with a huge delay and didn't do day game but I went to clubs. The situation is totally opposite compared to Poland: if you are good looking, dress well and you are from a wealthy western country you can definitely stand out here in clubs and girls are open and even invite you to approach with obvious eye contacts. I had fun, a couple of make out and contacts, hope to seal the deal when I come back. I was so surprised coming from a place where girls don't care about look, status and money (Poland), here the competition is not existent and girls seem to prefer western foreigners (the ones doing their homework): sweet surprise here in Ukraine and seems to be a good environment at least for my look and game.
Super important in Ukraine is shaving properly your face, beard seems to scary girls here. Looking forward to come back next week.

(06-15-2017 07:44 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Super important in Ukraine is shaving properly your face, beard seems to scary girls here.

I explain better the point: there are a lot of sexual tourists from Middle East and a big percentage of them has a beard. Apart from the pro, normal Ukrainian girls don't like them. Hence if you have a beard you will be instantly identified with those people, even if you dress well, you are from West and have good/model look. If you think about that, even Roosh was highly regarded in Poland but he was struggling in Ukraine. Then as many of you already know in Ukraine you have to dress well, possibly with serious fashion brands and good shoes.

It's the ramadan , almost no turks in ukraine during this period , it's why clubs are good now .
The invasion will come back after 24 juin .

(06-15-2017 07:44 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Spending one day in Ukraine, leaving tomorrow. Unfortunately arriving in the city with a huge delay and didn't do day game but I went to clubs. The situation is totally opposite compared to Poland: if you are good looking, dress well and you are from a wealthy western country you can definitely stand out here in clubs and girls are open and even invite you to approach with obvious eye contacts. I had fun, a couple of make out and contacts, hope to seal the deal when I come back. I was so surprised coming from a place where girls don't care about look, status and money (Poland), here the competition is not existent and girls seem to prefer western foreigners (the ones doing their homework): sweet surprise here in Ukraine and seems to be a good environment at least for my look and game.
Super important in Ukraine is shaving properly your face, beard seems to scary girls here. Looking forward to come back next week.

Yes many have said that looks are unimportant in Ukraine, but that is not really true, although they are less important than most other places.

Beards have becoming very popular in Ukraine with girls, maybe it's something to do with the fact that many of them have daddy issues, so a beard helps paint the picture of a replacement father.

Beards become less attractive to women as they get older and start looking for "Mr Proper"

I would not recommend many of us to have one in Ukraine, better to keep looking as youthful and fresh as possible

(06-16-2017 03:52 AM)charles dumoulin Wrote:  It's the ramadan , almost no turks in ukraine during this period , it's why clubs are good now .
The invasion will come back after 24 juin .

Good point, I wish it was Ramadan more often

With some doner kebabs in their stomach they will be hunting at full velocity when they return

I went to Kiev march 2016.

I couldn't pull in clubs , street hunting and shopping mall was the best.

It used to be racist . I'm Asian . Girls are a bit fatter than in the past but now that there is a war the racism has gone.
Police don't stop me for bribes either.

I managed to get a nice 7.

I was used to getting 8s in the past but as I'm older I've had to settle for less.

Anyway I got a 7 slim blonde .
Very sexy and all went perfect.
I deliberately didn't pump her after 2 night in hotel as I wanted her to love me.

I met her when she was with her mum. Mother was 38 so I'm real old buy lied about my age.
Said I was 30 and got away with it.


Anyway. I pumped her eventually after we went on holiday for 2 weeks.

Such good Sex , sexy body but at 21 she was not able to hide her interest in my money.

So it was 2 weeks of best sex in turkey and then I dumped her.

If he was able to pretend not to just want more money for a while I might have stayed with her longer.

So conclusion.

Sexy girls on Ukraine.
I hunted about 100 and only landed one long 2 week bang.

Was it worth it. Yes .
But not with the same woman again.

Ukraine women demand a lot. So sexy in bed but talk about boring stuff .

Well, that's pretty normal....finding a hot, genuine, down to earth, not gold digger girl in Kiev is hard, especially for foreigners since they don't have a social circle and don't speak the language fluently.
The few guys that manage to get them have my respect. Most foreigners get some sort of hot gold diggers that want to be wined and dined, taken to vacations to post pics on instagram ecc